I don't really hate any of those games, but then I don't have voip on when I'm on the 360, so I don't really contact with the 'communities'. Although I think that you're confusing the community with the bad eggs. There are some idiots online, but that's the same with all multiplayer games from CS to WoW. For the most part people are ok, and if you get yourself into groups you can just kick the dick's arse. I like your picture by the way.

I wont play Gears of war online because of the jerks online. But I play Call of Duty every day. I think that I am better at call of duty than I am Gears, so the Dumbasses don't bother me much because they are upset that I am beating them. But with Gears, I am not that good and have no desire to get better if Im just going to get yelled at while im trying to improve.

Sometimes, I like the game but hate the fans.
Sometimes, I hate the game AND hate the fans.
Sometimes, I can take or leave the game, and hate the fans.

Seeing a pattern?

The more popular a game becomes, the wider it's playerbase becomes. Unfortunately that means that you'll be getting the dicks as well as the good people. This is especially true in a competitive type of game, like Call of Duty or on a PvP server of an MMO. Yes, it's mainly bad eggs, but the bad eggs tend to be SO bad that they can at best irritate you extremely, or at worst, turn you off to the game entirely. I like CoD4, but hate the community; I like Halo 3, and my little experience with it when it was brand new the community wasn't bad; in WoW I'm just very selective of who I group with. When I play Age of Conan I dislike the PvP servers communities, but on the PvE servers it's fine. So I think it's more how people react in competitive games that we hate.

While a lot of fans do bug me, I like to think that I don't really let that cloud my appreciation of a game.
I don't like Halo because it's too floaty and I'm no good at it, WoW I genuinely find boring and is not my cup of tea, and COD4 is fun. All communities involved bug me but I take this as a separate and not as important factor.

so are we saying that nintendo is on the right track? personally, I avoid multiplayer on these type of titles for the said reasons. I don't think nintendo is perfect right now, but I can appreciate the lack of annoying morons yelling at me about how I must be cheating to beat them.

What kind of system would work I wonder.

huntedannoyed:
I wont play Gears of war online because of the jerks online. But I play Call of Duty every day. I think that I am better at call of duty than I am Gears, so the Dumbasses don't bother me much because they are upset that I am beating them. But with Gears, I am not that good and have no desire to get better if Im just going to get yelled at while im trying to improve.

I actually had the exact same experience while playing online with Gears. Since I only ever played once and I refuse to return. I used to play Halo 3 but after awhile I reached that point where I just don't care anymore, coupled with the fact that everyone seemed to be better then me. Recently, I started playing CoD4 and I don't mind the community at all, minus a few jerks, but thats unavoidable.

Don't get me started on WoW, I played for a few years (worst decision of my life). All I can say is that I met a grand total of 4 people that I got along with in that second job.

EDIT: Just noticed a grammatical error. :)

For me, it's kinda two-fold.

I hate Final Fantasy fans and want to push them all into a volcano

I'm not fond of the games either

I think it's necessary at this point to make the distinction between 'fans' and 'fanboys'. I am a fan of the Guitar Hero series. I play them, I like them, I strive to do well at them. I am not, however, a Guitar Hero fanboy. I don't care what other people think about it, I have no interest in trying to change anyone's opinion and I'm sure as hell not the kind of person who'll fight to the death to defend it at the slightest hint of a negative comment.

That said, then:

Fanboys do far more to put me off ever wanting to play a game (or an entire console, if that console happens to be the Wii) than any other factor and they're certainly never going to persuade me towards something I'm not already interested in. They're the reason that I don't do online multiplayer, except for a bit of Rock Band with friends.

So, yeah: I have no problem with fans, every game has fans, but fanboys get on my last nerve.

As for me, I never understood the console and pc war in the first place. The only thing I discover about this is "Rts are not made for consoles" unless you're Kingdom under fire.

One thing is I never complain about the consoles, only games.

Typically I will hate a game and it's fans or just the game since I don't pay attention to it's fans. I will usually hate the fans first then the game but the fans SERIOUSLY have to ruin the fun for me.
WoW is a good example,

I think the fans of a certain game can make you hate that game, even though the game might be good.

On the other hand, if the game is bad, I simply pity the fans and ask myself how the hell did anyone ever fabricate human beings capable of rabidly defending a big pile of shit.

games need to really design a peer to peer review system similar to forums that determines the grouping criteria of players.

I find I enjoy games much more when voice is turned off. I don't have to listen to them, and if the fact that I'm not hearing them bothers them, I don't even know it.
Although it does make quick coordination via voice commands difficult and I can't type fast enough to make up for it. People are always typing rude things about how I'm ignoring people and I'm dragging the team down because I'm going off and and getting killed and making absolutely no progress in the process.
You know the guy who just runs out in the middle of a firefight and gets shot and then does it again after he re-spawns but he can't hear you because his voice is disabled? Me!
You know the guy that you yell at a thousand times that there's a sniper covering that courtyard but he still runs at him with his pistol because his voice is disabled? Me!
You know the guy who's always shooting his own men and he doesn't know it because his voice is disabled? Me!
You know that guy who always hacks and ruins the game for everybody? That's actually a friend of mine, but my point is......uh....oh dear God!
I'm the guy everybody hates! Please excuse me whilst I search Wikipedia for suicide methods.

I found it hilarious when I was playing LotRO, whenever a WoW player joined and started acting like the immature retards that they are (Forgive me if you're a WoW player and not immature or retarded, hats off to you for your ability to cope with everyone else) the other LotRO players would call them out for it, and they'd start ranting about how WoW was so much of a better game and log off.

Sure, a game starts off as a mix of different people, but eventually majority wins, and the minorities start to get frustrated with the game and don't play. That's my theory anyway, I do remember watching such a transition happening in the earliest months of WoW.

A lot of people, even when they like the same thing I like, like it for really sucky reasons. That actually annoys me more than when they just like something that I hate.

-- Alex

I hate the games and the fans. When I play online the fans shoot at me when I play off line the game shoots at me :( but in seriousness none of us would be here (well for very long)if we hated games i just ignore retards and for those who cant handle a 10 year old calling there mother gay theres a mute button in most games (and all tvs)
Though when someone says my name I will retaliate sometimes by hunting them down time after time after time... Or I just out smart them which isent hard when you are arguing with a boy from London who dared me to say something because i was the only one with a mic in and was very surprised when he hard another boy from London speaking the same way he dose just smarter.

The people. I have definitely never hated a game for what it is. Rejected it, disliked it, yeah, hate, no. The PEOPLE! I hate Gears of War online. 5 skull fucks will team up, and open a battle room. Then brag when only one of their opponents has a mic, and thus the team fails entirely to work. They then act like they're the best damn thing in the world. GOD WHY!? I can only hope come Tuesday it's not the same deal with UT3.

TheNecroswanson:
I can only hope come Tuesday it's not the same deal with UT3.

Nope the game will just suck

If your not talking about unreal 3 I just made my self look retarded =D

I hate the fans of most games and how caught up they get by a game. I never understood Halo or Final Fantasy fanboys and how angry they get when you tell them their favorite games have faults.

We find faults with games that are perfectly justifiable criticisms and immediately we have to suffer the vulgarity of a socially insecure long-haired fashion-lemming (for example) that turns up to conventions and cosplays.
I don't think it's possible to hate a game for its fans unless the game produces sequels that are nothing but fan service gone wrong. I think it's mainly that we can hate or dislike a game before we know about the fans.

I hate FFVII and I hate FFVII fanboys.
Boring game and annoying people.

I'd say it's a good combination of both for Multiplayer games.

CoD4: Noob tube

EVE Online: Those gate campers or w/e.

Halo series: AWW HE BEAT ME TO THE SNIPER RIFLE! *betrayal*

TF2: AWW CRIT WHORE!!!

Whether it's abusing a feature or power or just being a dick, I guess all in all it's the community that makes or breaks a game.

I have hated Halo for a long time now, essentially the entire series. My main reason though is the back story and not the game play. The Halo Ring is Niven's Ringworld with everything that made it awesome REMOVED, and that turned me off of the entire series there.

So I actually hate the game as well as the XBL community (I played Unreal 2 XMP on the x-box and yes there where squeaking kids there to)

Problem is, the nice people are less 'chatty' online then the scum, since the latter feels an urge to spam crap every bloody secondor get into flamewars. This often leaves you with a bad impression of a community pretty fast.

I generally don't play online, mostly because I enjoy playing with people I can see, yell across the room rather than a mic at, and especially throw things at... However, nothing turns me off a game faster than someone braying about how it's the best game ever, whether they're doing it on a web forum or in my face. If someone hands me a game and says 'you have to play this, it's perfect!', I'm the kind of asshole who won't be able to enjoy it because I'll be too busy finding all the faults in it. It happened with Half-Life 2, Skies of Arcadia (okay, there were a hell of a lot of faults in that game...) and it's about to happen with FF7 when my flatmate finalyl manages to force it down my throat (I even like FF games, I've just played some of FF7 before and thought it wasn't immersive). There is no 'perfect game' or 'best game ever', and I don't care how enthusiastic you're being, there's no excuse for unironically throwing phrases like that around.

It's the fans.

Honestly, Halo 3 is decent (Would have been better if it had a bit of replay value), COD4 is extraordinary, and WoW is, well, WoW.

But the communities that revolve around the game are simply annoying, to tell you the truth.

Playing against 12-year-olds who scream and call everyone who kills them "Hackers" is not one of my favourite pasttimes.

However, there are good things that spawn from overrated games, such as Rooster Teeth, creators of Red vs Blue. It also keeps the dickheads occupied, so you don't need to deal with a lot of them in real life.

I hate the games not the fans.

I hate WoW's fans more than the game itself. The game I could stand. It was when I went to school and had 50+ people say "WORLD OF WARFRACT HAS THE BEST GRAFFIX EVAR!!"

Everyone would say that WoW is the best game ever, but whenever I had a topic to debate, like how its graphics are, in fact, bad, or that it doesn't have a very good system in most categories, the guys would say "Yeah well... WoW has the biggest player population" or "Just because!"

Plus, The Escapist is probably the only internet-related discussion board that I don't get riddled with people saying "no u r wrong wow is teh bext game evar!" all over my posts.

Stammer:
"Yeah well... WoW has the biggest player population" or "Just because!"

I know the feeling (got a warcrack friend) but even most players doesn't work (Super Mario Bros,Super Mario Bros 3,The Sims,GTA San Andreas,etc. have more).

Luckily for me, I play on a WoW server with an exceptionally mature and tame playerbase. There's always a few bad'uns that sneak in, though.

I enjoy COD4, TF2, and CS:S, but, yeah, sometimes you end up on a server that's got an unhealthy quantity of douchebags who just go online to grief or call everybody hackers, campers, cheaters, etc. When faced with such assclowns, the solution is easy: jump to another server.

Never really had that much of a problem with COD4 - just mute everyone. I guess if you're playing on a team, you can't really do that, so just play free-for-all. That way you don't have to talk to anyone.

If you don't say anything, if you don't react to insults or taunts, you'll find that most stop trying to get at you. Just mute em all.

I've never really been fond of any of the gaming communities I've come across. The problem is that most of them are too welcoming and "open-minded". To get a good gaming community you have to be an elitist society. This means having private game servers, or at least huge groups of not-sucky people that outnumber the 'tards.

To tell the truth, I like to play COD4/CS despite the hax0rz and sniper/nader whores. I might even give WoW another shot if 92% of its community were to keel over from Twinkie overdose. Halo, I still wouldn't play except for splitscreen with some friends perhaps, I wouldn't even considering going online with that game.

The thing you have to realize is that as long as multiplayer games are publicly multiplayer, the community is an integrated part of them. If you dislike the community, that is part of the game that you can't get rid of. Therefore you hate the game.