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SniperWolf427
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Almost every game on the market has ragdoll physics these days, but there are certain games that just give you a certain feeling of satisfaction as the bodies fly through the air, limbs flailing about. My personal favorites are, Half Life 2, Gears Of War and Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory/Double Agent. What games have the best ragdoll in your opinion?

Indigo_Dingo
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Hitman 2 Silent Assassin.

jdog345
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Oblivion. hit a weak dude w/a power attack and watch him fly.

franzuu
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They all look the same to me.

pieeater911
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Half Life 2, Gears of War and GTA IV. It's so satisfying to smash into a bank manager and watch his body go flopping through the air before being halted by a street lamp.

The Potato Lord
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Halo3,Mass Effect, Gears of War

Those are my top 3 for rag-doll physics.

TheNecroswanson
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jdog345:
Oblivion. hit a weak dude w/a power attack and watch him fly.

Seconded. First time I got a glimpse at how truly beautiful the ragdoll was was in a chase.
I was riding a horse down a mountain being chased by a bandit and two dogs. I could have handled them no problem, but I was bored so I ran. Jumped of the relatively good sized ledge, hit the ground. My horse and I were fine, but the man and the two wolves rolled all the way to the imperial city (slight exhaggeration). And boy was it hilarious.

the protaginist
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saints row.i love driving with by truck on the sidewalk and watch the bodies fly.

zirnitra
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I particularly like in MGS4 online. get a headshot with a powerful sniper rifle and watch the back bone fly back and the body turn into a U shape

SniperWolf427
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TheNecroswanson:

jdog345:
Oblivion. hit a weak dude w/a power attack and watch him fly.

Seconded. First time I got a glimpse at how truly beautiful the ragdoll was was in a chase.
I was riding a horse down a mountain being chased by a bandit and two dogs. I could have handled them no problem, but I was bored so I ran. Jumped of the relatively good sized ledge, hit the ground. My horse and I were fine, but the man and the two wolves rolled all the way to the imperial city (slight exhaggeration). And boy was it hilarious.

Of course, how could i forget about Oblivion? Fallout 3 looks to have highly entertaining ragdoll as well, but that makes sense because its the same dev.

zachbob2
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Fallout 3 and Fable 2 look like they have good ragdoll

Shadow Tyrant
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GTA IV does an amazing job of it. There's a ragdoll engine I saw online somewhere that was really impressive. The computer actually responded to being hit by trying to keep its balance rather than just flop and tumble. I think it's the one GTA IV uses, but I'm not 100% sure. My only issue with GTA IV physics is the lack of ability to sever limbs. You shoot someone in the face with a shotgun and their head is still intact. At least it's not like in F.E.A.R. where if you shoot someone with a shotgun in the right place they either get cut in half or explode. Which is admittedly awesome, but it's not very realistic.

Programmed_For_Damage
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Shadow Tyrant:
GTA IV does an amazing job of it. There's a ragdoll engine I saw online somewhere that was really impressive. The computer actually responded to being hit by trying to keep its balance rather than just flop and tumble. I think it's the one GTA IV uses, but I'm not 100% sure. My only issue with GTA IV physics is the lack of ability to sever limbs. You shoot someone in the face with a shotgun and their head is still intact. At least it's not like in F.E.A.R. where if you shoot someone with a shotgun in the right place they either get cut in half or explode. Which is admittedly awesome, but it's not very realistic.

Seconded. I witnessed a pedestrian in GTAIV get nudged by a car; he buckled over the bonnet before straightening up, banging his fist on the bonnet in anger before walking off swearing. I could not believe my eyes.

snp517
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gta 4 and do not come at me with the it's not ragdoll physics it's euphoria bullshit do you know what euphoria is built off of ragdoll physics so i guess you could say it is advanced ragdoll physics

PS3fanboy
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The ones I think are best are:

The Splinter Cell games (one of the true fathers of ragdoll physics as far as I know[I don't care if you contradict me])

And Assassin's Creed. Nothing like killing an archer to have his body fall to the ground and everybody run screaming.

Rob Sharona
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I didn't think I gave a crap about ragdoll physics until I played GTA IV.

Codgo
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For me its Half Life 2, Company of Heroes and GTAIV.

HL2 -

So many games seem to get the look of physics wrong like Battlefield 2/2142 and Halo, Half Life 2 is one of the few that get the look and weight correct for me. So many games make bodies and objects float around like a low gravity cheat is on.

COH -

The only RTS i've seen that combines destrustible enviroments and amazing physics together so perfectly that actually makes the maps extremely important to how a battle plays out. Makes C&C 3 look like childs play.

GTAIV -

The Euphoria physics in GTA really are the next step i think, i've never seen a game combine animation and physics so perfectly.

coverfire
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The first game that I played with Ragdoll effect and still one of the better ones
was Painkiller.

danosaurus
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Painkiller and Half-Life 2.
Though both aren't without their flaws, they're still the best out there in my opinion.

CartoonHead
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Shadow Tyrant:
GTA IV does an amazing job of it. There's a ragdoll engine I saw online somewhere that was really impressive. The computer actually responded to being hit by trying to keep its balance rather than just flop and tumble.

As mentioned by Codjo this engine is called Euphoria and is made by NaturalMotion. It is also being used in the forthcoming SW: The Force Unleashed (along with DMM and Havok which should make it even more fun, and probably make it the best ragdoll so far featured in a game).

Check out www.naturalmotion.com and The Force Unleashed web site to see some pretty good demos and other info.

EDIT: In answer to your question BobTheCool: Yes, it was also used in GTA IV - although not in conjunction with DMM like SW:TFU.

meatloaf231
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Half Life 2, hands down.

BobTheCool
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Half-Life 2 or GTA IV. isnt GTA IV based on one of the same engines that powers SW:FU?
oo! and crysis. that game has great ragdoll.

brenflood
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Probably not the best, but I think the most entertaining ragdoll physics can be found in Bloodrayne 2.

StonedMonkay
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GTA IV

and Crysis, God...throwing an enemy in strength mode straight into the wall of a building & to have the building collapse ontop of him is priceless

Decoy Doctorpus
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Walking home drunk in GTA4. It's just hilarious. I remember falling over after taking a corner and Roman stumbled over me and cracked his head on the pavement. It was a thing of beauty.

Raziel_Likes_Souls
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I Think the GTA IV engine is called RAGE (Rockstar Advanced Game Engine, I think)

Aries_Split
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Killzone had a very nice ragdoll engine if I remember correctly.

stompy
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Decoy Doctorpus:
Walking home drunk in GTA4. It's just hilarious. I remember falling over after taking a corner and Roman stumbled over me and cracked his head on the pavement. It was a thing of beauty.

Yes, that's hilarious. What would be funny as if the cops actually pulled you over for drink-driving. Awesome fun that game.

Programmed_For_Damage
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Decoy Doctorpus:
Walking home drunk in GTA4. It's just hilarious. I remember falling over after taking a corner and Roman stumbled over me and cracked his head on the pavement. It was a thing of beauty.

Totally! Watching the person you've taken out for drinks face-plant never gets old in that game.

shatnershaman
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Rainbow Six Vegas 2 with extreme ragdoll on.

Logan9993
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Ragdoll Kung Foo- it's all ragdoll and it's really fun

Codgo
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Raziel_Likes_Souls:
I Think the GTA IV engine is called RAGE (Rockstar Advanced Game Engine, I think)

But the physics are powered by Euphoria.

hearty0
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Codgo:

Raziel_Likes_Souls:
I Think the GTA IV engine is called RAGE (Rockstar Advanced Game Engine, I think)

But the physics are powered by Euphoria.

Wrong. The charactors behavior, and ragdolls are powered by euphoria. The physics are probably powered by havok, but thats a guess.

ElArabDeMagnifico
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F.E.A.R. has the best Ragdoll physics, seriously nothing can top it. ESPECIALLY when it glitches out. I had a folder full of screenshots before.

-and about NaturalMotion Euphoria, It's really cool, and it's a huge step forward in gaming...but damnit now that things are realistic it isn't even half as funny as it use to be >_<

Programmed_For_Damage
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You want to see funny, occasionally the physics in Perfect Dark Zero screw up and the body of an enemy is given zero weight. Watch as they tumble through the air like paper in the wind. I shot a guy to death on my screen and he launched up into the air and floated off around the corner. A minute later his silouhette appeared on my brothers screen, hovering above him.

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