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TommyGun465
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Sometimes, when I go to game stores, i see casual gamers, casual gamer kids and *chocke* soccer moms. thats normal, but sometimes, they make extremely retarded statements, such as:
Kid: "daddy, but I really want it! cmon!" refering to a game he never saw before (when I saw this it was about curious geaorge)
Soccer Mom: "you cant have that, its not your age" (refering to Spiderman 2)
Caual Gamer: "Oh this game has bazookas in it. im gonna buy it!" (refering to ratchet and clank. its a great game, but for violence, its not worth it)
Did you ever feel like punching these people in the face?

N.K
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Here's a breakdown of what I think:
30% god, I wanna punch those people in the face.
20% I should probably tell them, it wouldn't be a good idea to get that game.
40% Ignore them
10% AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRGRH! stop it!

Fineldar
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I had to stand in line for much too long while some kid bought a game with small bills and change while his mom watched. Can't she buy the game and make him pay, like all sensible people? Of course he counted wrong, and had to count out more change.

Space Spoons
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I only get annoyed at those kinds of people when they eat up all the new releases that are actually decent before I have a chance to get to 'em.

Any time other than that, I just sit back and watch them pour more development money into my hobby.

Quistnix
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Oh, you mean just like all the "hardcore!" gamers acted when they ignorantly entered game stores back when the PS1 launched?

Get a bit of perspective. You are not superior to what you scathingly refer to as "casual" gamers or soccer moms. At least they are having fun with the games, instead of being frustrated all the time just because their hobby has hit a bigger market.

42manZ
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Punch them in the face? No, I just tne them out.
Though something similar happened.
A girl was shopping through GBA games, and saw the"rumble Pack" asked her brother what it was, didn't get a reaction so I told her. She then bought it just for the sake of buying something from what I can tell, I can't really see the point in a casual gamer buying it.

Ionait
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Quistnix:
Oh, you mean just like all the "hardcore!" gamers acted when they ignorantly entered game stores back when the PS1 launched?

Get a bit of perspective. You are not superior to what you scathingly refer to as "casual" gamers or soccer moms. At least they are having fun with the games, instead of being frustrated all the time just because their hobby has hit a bigger market.

Agreed.

About the OP.
1. What is wrong with a kid wanting a curious george game? If s/he is still saying Daddy and begging, it is probably for their age group. It's probably a good educational game that will turn the kid into a real gamer one day. We all start somewhere.
2. There's a chance that soccer mom was right. And how do you know she was a soccer mom? Because she was hanging with her kids? Did she have a soccer tattoo? Her kids wore jerseys? Or are you a quick to judge, stereotypical, picker? I think it is great that the mom is hanging out with her kids and even more great that she pays attention to the ESRB. We need more parents that care. Don't put them down. At least she's trying, unlike a lot of parents.
3. We all fall for a pretty face (or frag) sometimes. I sometimes buy games because of pretty anime covers. Sometimes the game is good, sometimes it isn't. Others buy games based on silly concepts as well, even the hard core. It sometimes leads us to discover a diamond in the rough. (Like Steambot Chronicles for instance.. Took a chance and got a big reward).

I do not feel like punching casual gamers in the face. I feel like punching stupid people in the face. Casual gamer/soccer mom/kid does not = stupid person automatically.

Those people are gods compared to a duo I encountered one day. They were in the store bugging the clerks about what they owned, asking why they didn't own said game, and then going and boasting about having systems that didn't exist. The kid had said he 'special ordered' the 'x-cube' off of ebay and because of it he was better than everyone else in the store. When he asked one clerk what his favorite system was, he said the SNES and the kid asked him if he was poor or something. C'mon now.

There are just unintelligent, bratty, people in the world.

Reaper08
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I totally know your feeling on this one. Many a times I have seen/heard some comments that seemed ridiculous to me and I think how in the world?
In the end though it just matters how much fun the derive out of the game.Like when you see someone pick up guitar hero for the first time and they are flailing their arms around screaming about how they cleared "hit me with your best shot" on easy and having the time of their life. (You can giggle, just don't let them see you =3)

TheNecroswanson
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TommyGun465:
Sometimes, when I go to game stores, i see casual gamers, casual gamer kids and *chocke* soccer moms. thats normal, but sometimes, they make extremely retarded statements, such as:
Kid: "daddy, but I really want it! cmon!" refering to a game he never saw before (when I saw this it was about curious geaorge)
Soccer Mom: "you cant have that, its not your age" (refering to Spiderman 2)
Caual Gamer: "Oh this game has bazookas in it. im gonna buy it!" (refering to ratchet and clank. its a great game, but for violence, its not worth it)
Did you ever feel like punching these people in the face?

This is uninformed judgemental elitism at it's best. You were a casual gamer who just wanted gmes at random I'm sure at one point too. My point being, if you actually understand the horror behind the words, "Superman 64".

tobyornottoby
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Did you ever feel like punching these people in the face?

No I feel more like punching the likes of you in the face, people who don't allow other people their own fun

However, here's another question for others:

Have you ever heard a casual gamer talk about a game while he's playing?

Casual gamers don't buy bad games because they're stupid... they buy bad games because they can truly enjoy those, not seeing faults. Whereas I see mechanics, strategies, resources, polygons, shaders, they see just dragons and castles and explosions! Aaah, to be unknowing again...

Thaliur
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Space Spoons:
I only get annoyed at those kinds of people when they eat up all the new releases that are actually decent before I have a chance to get to 'em.

Any time other than that, I just sit back and watch them pour more development money into my hobby.

Sadly, most of that money gets directed to companies that basically waste it on impressive lightshows (EA, Bungie, Blizzard...) instead of those who put their money into creating games that are actually worth playing more than once (companies like Postlinear - Flying Saucer was probably the most fun I ever had in a Science Fiction flight simulator and additionally one of the most compelling storylines in one; Rage - Jeff Wayne's The War Of The Worlds; and of course Frictional - the Penumbra series is brilliant)

Space Spoons
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Thaliur:

Space Spoons:
I only get annoyed at those kinds of people when they eat up all the new releases that are actually decent before I have a chance to get to 'em.

Any time other than that, I just sit back and watch them pour more development money into my hobby.

Sadly, most of that money gets directed to companies that basically waste it on impressive lightshows (EA, Bungie, Blizzard...) instead of those who put their money into creating games that are actually worth playing more than once (companies like Postlinear - Flying Saucer was probably the most fun I ever had in a Science Fiction flight simulator and additionally one of the most compelling storylines in one; Rage - Jeff Wayne's The War Of The Worlds; and of course Frictional - the Penumbra series is brilliant)

I wouldn't say EA, Bungie and Blizzard waste the money they make, but hey; different strokes for different folks.

I see your point, but honestly, even if the money's not being spent ideally, it's still going to the industry... And that's a win, in the long run. Casuals get more Brain Age and Raving Rabbids (both of which I enjoyed, by the way, save your snark), hardcores get more Grand Theft Auto and Metal Gear Solid. Everyone wins.

TommyGun465
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TheNecroswanson:

TommyGun465:
Sometimes, when I go to game stores, i see casual gamers, casual gamer kids and *chocke* soccer moms. thats normal, but sometimes, they make extremely retarded statements, such as:
Kid: "daddy, but I really want it! cmon!" refering to a game he never saw before (when I saw this it was about curious geaorge)
Soccer Mom: "you cant have that, its not your age" (refering to Spiderman 2)
Caual Gamer: "Oh this game has bazookas in it. im gonna buy it!" (refering to ratchet and clank. its a great game, but for violence, its not worth it)
Did you ever feel like punching these people in the face?

This is uninformed judgemental elitism at it's best. You were a casual gamer who just wanted gmes at random I'm sure at one point too. My point being, if you actually understand the horror behind the words, "Superman 64".

Yeah, I never looked in that perspective. we all were like that. Saying this doesnt mean I dont help them. the curious george kid, i helped him by saying the game sucked, but his father shoved me away from him. Its just that it kinda pisses me off. (but then again, im a teenager)

highly orchestrated bear attacks
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When your that young, every game is awesome, no matter what it is. Think back to when you were a kid, I bet you played tons of bad games, but like them just because they were video games. I did that with tons of games, like Roadrash 64, excitebike, etc. They grow out of it, and develop tastes. Same thing with music.

Reaperman Wompa
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Ouch Op, i remember having to get my mum to buy me games, whats wrong with that?

I was like 8 and would either get a parent to buy it or get money off of them, and i occasionally picked up a crap game but who hasn't.

And whats with the asshole above talking about doing his girlfriend?

F^cking troll, hope he gets herpes. (do i get banned for saying that?)

TheNecroswanson
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X3heartless:

I don't have to bait morons always reply....

You got me there. But you need to understand that the gentleman whom you replied so vulgarly to was placed on probation for his post. You're now flame baiting and doing much worse than he did. What makes you think you won't get banned? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here as you're relatively new.
But what you are doing is flame baiting, and everyone frowns upon it here. Your Escapist dossier (love that word) says you're about 15. At that age I had stopped such behaviours as they are looked down upon. You can do better than that, I've seen it, calm it down dude, and you'll do fine.

Diogo Ribeiro
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Everyone knows that if you're 9 years old and don't play Call of Duty 4, then you suck at life.

Birras
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Whenever I'm in a game store around the holidays, I always see people passing by me whom I just want to stop and say "Excuse me, but that game sucks." For example, last year, I was at the local GameStop, and I passed by this woman carrying a huge stack of like 10 craptacular games. I can understand purchasing Turok if you haven't read reviews, but how the hell does The Guy Game appeal to anyone? Also, at the bottom of the stack, I saw the cardnial sin. Barbie. Horse. Adventures. I so badly wanted to tell her that all those games suck and then point out good alternatives such as Rainbow Six Vegas instead of Turok, porn instead of The Guy Game, and anything at all instead of that...thing.

Reaperman Wompa
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Diogo Ribeiro:
Everyone knows that if you're 9 years old and don't play Call of Duty 4, then you suck at life.

Has anyone wondered if young gamers are assholes because the older gamers were like "oh great here comes another little bitch" etc?
Also what type of future gamer are we creating, i don't wanna live in an age where games are designed for the "i Pwnd u noob" crowd.

smallharmlesskitten
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TheNecroswanson:

X3heartless:

I don't have to bait morons always reply....

You got me there. But you need to understand that the gentleman whom you replied so vulgarly to was placed on probation for his post. You're now flame baiting and doing much worse than he did. What makes you think you won't get banned? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here as you're relatively new.
But what you are doing is flame baiting, and everyone frowns upon it here. Your Escapist dossier (love that word) says you're about 15. At that age I had stopped such behaviours as they are looked down upon. You can do better than that, I've seen it, calm it down dude, and you'll do fine.

Necro... I don't think he's gonna last much longer if he keeps on going the way he is. I don't think he's gonna change.. Remember Zettasan?

MikeTheElf
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TommyGun465:
Sometimes, when I go to game stores, i see casual gamers, casual gamer kids and *chocke* soccer moms. thats normal, but sometimes, they make extremely retarded statements, such as:
Kid: "daddy, but I really want it! cmon!" refering to a game he never saw before (when I saw this it was about curious geaorge)
Soccer Mom: "you cant have that, its not your age" (refering to Spiderman 2)
Caual Gamer: "Oh this game has bazookas in it. im gonna buy it!" (refering to ratchet and clank. its a great game, but for violence, its not worth it)
Did you ever feel like punching these people in the face?

I think most people have forgotten that:
A)Kids beg for anything that looks remotely interesting- not just video games.
B)Despite the fact that almost every parent will buy their kid a game (or let the kid buy it)without checking the esrp rating, some parents do.
C)Violence (or the hinting of violence) is probably the biggest lure for anything nowadays, especially video games: so anything that has a picture of a gun on the cover is going to sell to the general gamer quicker than something else.

Yes, I feel like punching many people in the face, but I realized that won't stop them.

Doug
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Ionait:

I do not feel like punching casual gamers in the face. I feel like punching stupid people in the face. Casual gamer/soccer mom/kid does not = stupid person automatically.

Those people are gods compared to a duo I encountered one day. They were in the store bugging the clerks about what they owned, asking why they didn't own said game, and then going and boasting about having systems that didn't exist. The kid had said he 'special ordered' the 'x-cube' off of ebay and because of it he was better than everyone else in the store. When he asked one clerk what his favorite system was, he said the SNES and the kid asked him if he was poor or something. C'mon now.

There are just unintelligent, bratty, people in the world.

Agreed, although I will admit to feeling unjustifably angry at people who don't get games and try and act like they do, which is pretty stupid of me, but none of us are perfect, heh...

Btw, you've probably seen this before, but let the Gord into your life!
http://www.actsofgord.com/index.php

And I managed to find an link to a copy of the last section on his site that was oddly unaccessable on the main site (the links to each subsection were dead):
http://www.myths.com/pub/humor/gord/apocalypse/index.html

poleboy
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When did "casual gamer" become "stupid brat"?
Also, why do people keep insisting that the term "casual gamer" exists outside an EA board room meeting?

Iron Mal
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Masked_Avenger:
These 'casual gamers' are normal people. You know, the people that get to have sex with women. Sometimes, these people like to buy video games because they want to turn their brains off and kill stuff for a while. Y'all can go back to jerking yourselves off to japanese cartoon porn and diligently reading your gamer magazines, I'm going to go get some head from my real life girlfriend.

I've noticed that the two furthest extremes when it comes to gamers are 'hardcore' gamers (who seem to believe that anyone who can't get into the top 10 of any online scoreboard are somewhat inferior), they will useually hurl abuse about the other guy/gal being a noob and how they raped them last night on Halo (they take it far too seriously).

On the other end of the scale you will get the people who have an almost fanatical hatred of gamers/nerds/people with either a pc or console. They seem to take a rather black and white view of: if you play games, then you are automatically a social reject who never see sunlight (or other people for that matter) and are extremely petty (we are at fanboy alert 5). They will often use the stereotype that gamers are inept when it comes to relations with the opposite sex (with the other typical observation of these poor fellows having to resort to porn/erotic anime) while they, the 'normal' people, are happily engaged in a sexually active relationship (we take their word on that).

Then you get the people in the middle of these extremes who don't really care, shrug their sholders and get back to whatever they were doing.

stompy
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Actually, I don't. I generally ignore all others in the store except the store clerk, so I don't notice any idiots around.

JaguarWong
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If ever a thread needed derailing it's this one.

darthsmily
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I am actually more sick of seeing some of these "hardcore" gamers (especially teenagers) buying their games like they are some dirty secret.
Just annoys me that they think they have to hide their hobbie because some "cool kid" might tease them about it if they somehow found out.

Revelo
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It's not those little causal gamers that bother me, as it's their choice and if they can enjoy a game they know nothing about then thats their prerogative.

I did the same with "Apocalypse: Starring Bruce Willis" a couple of years ago when I still had a Ps2 and would occasionally buy an old PS1 game I liked the look of; I knew nothing about it, but I was sold on the fact you could turn your gun into a flamethrower and see your hapless victim run about in flames for a few seconds screaming, or using a high intense laser beam to slice them in half when watch a pair fo legs scurry around for a while. It was not that gory considering those two points but it had a unique charm to it.

What really does annoy me is when you see young kids pester parents to buy an 18+ rated game for the reasons why it's 18 and the gormless parents make no effort to check out whats on the back or ask the store clerks for info on it.

SargentToughie
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darthsmily:
I am actually more sick of seeing some of these "hardcore" gamers (especially teenagers) buying their games like they are some dirty secret.
Just annoys me that they think they have to hide their hobbie because some "cool kid" might tease them about it if they somehow found out.

I completely agree, I was sick of being the only person that openly loved games at my school before I joined band...

Q9R42
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N.K:
Here's a breakdown of what I think:
30% god, I wanna punch those people in the face.
20% I should probably tell them, it wouldn't be a good idea to get that game.
40% Ignore them
10% AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRGRH! stop it!

hahaha! He already said it!

Lord Krunk
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poleboy:
When did "casual gamer" become "stupid brat"?

Hear, hear.

L.B. Jeffries
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Space Spoons:
I only get annoyed at those kinds of people when they eat up all the new releases that are actually decent before I have a chance to get to 'em.

Any time other than that, I just sit back and watch them pour more development money into my hobby.

This.

Codgo
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