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Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3203 Joined: 22 Aug 2008     | |
Anonymous Source Posts: 7 Joined: 18 Jul 2008 | Elitist gamers make our entire culture look bad. Download your games off the net if you can't deal with it. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2095 Joined: 16 May 2008    | my response to this thread was so insidious that it brought the whole website down for several minutes about 2 hours ago no joke. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 82 Joined: 10 May 2008    | I don't have anything against newcomers to gaming (as mentioned earlier, we all had to start somewhere), but surely if you are going to work at a gaming shop, a prerequisite is knowledge of the industry, isn't it? I was in EB about a year ago, and an employee was showing some guys around the PS3 area. They say they want something with good co-op (they already had Rainbow Six: Vegas, so the options were already limited), then she points out Heavenly Sword, claiming "you could take turns at it". No joke at all. Gobsmacked doesn't do my reaction credit. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 883 Joined: 31 Jan 2008   |
Hah you sure showed him whos better at videogames! |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 2095 Joined: 16 May 2008 |
it's the PS3. it's not like there are any good options. *puts on rain coat* |
Beat Writer  Posts: 166 Joined: 20 Aug 2008   | If it is the last 1 of a game.... I would buy it just to shut the up |
Muckraker Posts: 348 Joined: 2 Jan 2008  |
hahaha in this case that isn't an insult but a compliment; after all, that's what these games aim for ;)
why aren't they allowed to not-care? I'm sure there's a lot of stuff you're using, but still oblivious about? Maybe what kind of clothes you wear, or what kind of bananas you eat, or what company provides you internet, or like buying a car indeed (I would fit your description: looks + dealer, I don't care) or whatever
if 'idiots' stands for 'people not a clone of myself' then yes, the world is full of idiots enjoying others games than you are
Yes. But it would be really lame & stupid of me if I would blame the people who enjoy those for it. |
Muckraker  Posts: 343 Joined: 24 Jul 2008   | It's so painful seeing someone in a store picking up a load for crap games, usually some film tie in or something terrible like that, and not even glancing at Bioshock or The Orange Box. You just want to say, 'Why are you going to punish your Xbox/PS3 with those games?! Good god, i'm such a nerd. |
Muckraker Posts: 348 Joined: 2 Jan 2008 |
I'm sure someone else has the same thoughts about your choice of clothes/food/music/furniture |
Beat Writer  Posts: 150 Joined: 18 Mar 2008 | This whole thread reeks of Emo/Jock/Goth/Chav vs Anyone Else. |
Paperboy  Posts: 18 Joined: 29 Mar 2008  | Casual Games are the Romcoms and Horror films of the video game industry. Fine for passing a bit of time but not the classics that stay in your memory. There's a place for both in the world as far as I'm concerned. The only people that annoy me in gamestores are those that waste the employees and other customers time, normally it's 12 year olds trying to buy GTA or trading in a bunch of crappy PS2 games then deciding it's not worth the £8 they get offered. |
Paperboy  Posts: 15 Joined: 23 Aug 2008 | so i read all the replies and well... Seeing casual gamers in game stores, makes me feel like a god in a geek/snob kind of way. I dont trust employees, i've met 2 employees in my 11 year old (and counting) gaming life who actually knew what they were talking about. Other than that i was trial and error. I dont want to punch them in the face, i just want them to stick to walmarts and stuff...leave game stores for gamers. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 105 Joined: 26 Feb 2008  | Yeah, since the majority of my friends are just like that. But I found that they're really like that because they don't have the ability to think. If they play a challenging game, (I won't give an example because some retard'll be like "That's not a really challenging game! My 10 year old niece can play it!" Shutup nerds)they'll find that they suck at it, and instead of trying again to improve like a sensible gamer would, they yell "This game's retarded!" chew on the controller, and then go back to playing Halo. Oops! I totally let that one slip... |
Copy Clerk Posts: 82 Joined: 10 May 2008 |
True, but she could at least have tried to find something, instead of pointing out random games. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1564 Joined: 23 Oct 2007     |
Surprisingly not! I haven't played as many bad games as you'd think - I based my purchases strongly on demos, because I was strapped for cash, and much later found out that many of the games that I'd bought were actually considered to be quite decent. Hell, I even figured out that Tomb Raider was a pile of faecal matter long before everybody else became disillusioned with the games. I played a demo of Tomb Raider 2 and swore that I'd never play another Tomb Raider game again. That said, it's a slightly different story when it comes to console games. While I haven't bought many poor-quality console games either, there are the notable exceptions - the likes of Star Fox Adventures. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 525 Joined: 22 Jun 2008  | Usually it doesn't bother me when young/casual gamers are buying games - the vast majority of gamers aren't hardcore, so it's pretty commonplace to see one or two casual gamers in game stores. It's the casual gamers that think they know what they are talking about that bug me. The one incident where I was on the verge of calling a "casual" out: As I was waiting in line at my local GameStop, the person ahead of me asked an employee about Too Human (it's release date, if it's good or not, etc), but before the employee has a chance to answer the person behind me blurts out that it's an FTS. Right. I couldn't help but chuckle a good bit and point out that Too Human is not an FTS. Looking rather flustered, the employee politely told the man in front of me what it was - totally ignoring the casual. The casual gamer stepped out of line and pretended to browse older games until I left the store. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 159 Joined: 30 Apr 2008 | My brother is 12 years old, and could kick many peoples asses at Call of Duty, but when he walks into a game store, everyone treats him like some whiny kid walking in with his mom and begging for the latest piece of low-budget Wii crap. It's not his fault that he has to walk in with his mom, he can't exactly drive. My point is that people need to stop assuming that just because someone isn't over the age of 16 that they are automatically a casual. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 502 Joined: 4 Jun 2008 | Just a question...why does anyone care what games other people go out and buy? Its not like they're going to abduct you and force you to sit there and watch them play it, you get what you want (and enjoy it for the greatness you believe it is) and they get what they want (and get to enjoy it without being hassled by everyone else for being 'casual gamers'). If someone is being an outright idiot (for example, standing at the front of the line in a shop and wasting time by asking the guy behind the desk for a full blown review of the game), then I can sympahise and might even join in with the degredation of the poor fool. Otherwise, some people just need to mind their own business and stop ripping into others for 'having no taste in games'. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 59 Joined: 23 Aug 2008 |
Same here, but I know that instead of taking my advice, whoever I was giving it to will probably throw a fit and give me shit for trying to help them out. I'd really love to steer people away from shit games and point them in the direction of better ones, but I doubt I can do that. It's a real shame, I haveta say. By the way, OP, you shouldn't get pissed off at the little kid. I'm sure you did the same (or something close enough) when you were his age. We all bought our share of shit games that, I know I did. I thought they were amazing cause to be honest, I was too young to know any better =/ It's all in the process of becoming a hardcore gamer. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 187 Joined: 1 Aug 2008 |
I love how casual gamers have hijacked the concept of fun and changed it to mean anything that's devoid of depth and challenge. The reason why some of us aren't thrilled about video gaming becoming such a big market is because it has dumbed down gaming and gaming culture.
Because casual gamers constantly remind us of their existence. |
Paperboy Posts: 15 Joined: 18 Jun 2008  |
I don't see anything wrong with Hentai... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1025 Joined: 19 May 2008  |
Because it's the internet and everything's a fucking competition here. First price is dick-waving rights while runner-ups have to settle for dignity. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 74 Joined: 7 Jul 2008 | Typical "hardcore" gamer: you have to find yourself superior in this light because chances are sex and a tan are two things that have escaped you for so long you have to compensate by being on top in something. Stereotypes are fun, aren't they? Anyway, I understand your frustration at a "casual gamer" holding up a line, but you have it wrong. Casual gamers aren't kids buying kids games, moron. That's potentially a "hardcore gamer" starting up. Think about the NES games back in the day. Most of them didn't have murder; just bright colors, mushrooms and princesses. We all started on pretty childish games. There is no Mario game that's hardcore. There just isn't. Casual gamers are the gamers that bust out their systems when friends are over to play party games or just play Live! arcade games, etc. Basically every Wii-only owner on Earth (calm yourself fanboys, I'm just teasing). I don't knock people who are casual gamers. There's a lot to be said for not picking up a controller and doing things like going out, playing golf, going to the gym and sexing up the town. I love gaming and my preoccupation is with myself when it comes to it, not feigning some superiority complex because I'm a sad little person who has to label someone a negatively to make me feel more manly. Remember "hardcore" gamers: the point of gaming is to have fun. Just because someone enjoys Tetris, Geometry Wars or the like rather than Halo 3 doesn't matter. They are playing what's fun for them. I wouldn't go anywhere near half the RPGs that some of you play because they are cumbersome and I don't have to pretend to be a warrior or a king in my mind because I dominate Earth in real life. =) |
Muckraker Posts: 257 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 |
It's not that. It's that the man power that was being used to make the games I liked are now being used to produce games I don't like. They are also slowly making franchises that I actually enjoyed into more casual, and dumbed down versions of the games. This isn't always a bad thing, in the case of Civilization Revolutions, but in most cases, it's made me not want to buy games. This also plays into the whole piracy discussion as well as the cost of games and how not every new release that comes in a box is worth $50. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 123 Joined: 11 May 2008   |
But Shawn of the Dead was freaking awesome, and that was both of those! There are a lot of things I want to say to someone picking up a crap game, but I don't because I respect other people's opinions (Unless they like My Chemical Romance or are a furry) and just shrug it off. True, it'd be nice to see someone pick up a decent game and at least consider buying it, but until everyone realises Halo 3 wasn't better than the second coming of Jesus Christ, that isn't going to happen. |
PROBATION  Posts: 199 Joined: 7 Jun 2008 |
This will probably end up sounding defensive, but fuck it, don't you fall under the "hardcore" crowd and not the "casual" crowd because you post on a video game message board? Not even one like gamespot where a "casual" gamer can find themselves when trying to get a recommendation on a game, but the Escapist. If you don't, then why not? User was put on probation for: I Feel Dirty (be warned about talk of hentai). (7 days) |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 502 Joined: 4 Jun 2008 |
Since I get somewhat sick and tired of this petty arguing over games and the people who play them, I will yet again try to place the indifferent voice of reason in here and step up to defend the hapless lackies who are being belittled this time around. I find it quite amusing how the first (and useually only) insult thrown at more...let's say 'devoted' gamers is that they are lifeless social pariahs. For example, I happen to be very pale, you have me there, but I am pale by choice (I think it looks better), not because I'm afraid I'll go up in flames in direct sunlight. Sex is the other topic that anti-gamers will bring up as a way of degrading our hardcore comrades. Even though I personally hve never had it, I have it on good authority that sex is great, it feel good, looks good and could be seen as good exercise for some. However, it would be somewhat narrow minded to assume that because someone hasn't had intercourse that they are a worse person because of it. What I've written here by no means that I (like some people on this forum) hold contempt for casual or hardcore gamers...I just want everyone to get along for once (it'll make you live longer). |
Muckraker  Posts: 344 Joined: 12 Aug 2008  | im 13 and its annoying how everyone thinks im some whiney bitch because im younger |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1709 Joined: 11 Jun 2008  |
I hate it when parents do this shit with their kids. Hey Mabel, how about doing some practice runs with the kid at home so he doesn't count like a dislexic when he's in my line. And maybe you should explain the mind blowing concept of sales tax at home first so the little turd doesn't have a confused panic attack when the clerk drops the real price on him at the register and he doesn't have enough. |
Muckraker Posts: 348 Joined: 2 Jan 2008 |
stop whining about that ;) also use I'm instead of im, that would solve the problem to some extend
As long as there aren't any GOOD barbie games, I guess those liking barbies will have NO CHOICE BUT to buy the bad barbie games do they?
I wonder how it would've looked like if there were no casuals... the number of sold games would be very very low so there was NO way any big-budget next-gen would be produced. I think as you say this would be great for gameplay, but keep in mind you would have no graphical horsepower like we have now whatsoever (so I don't see it as hijacked... I see it that those 'casual' games wouldn't be made anyway without the market. They're not replacing, they're just added) and of course their concept of fun is devoid of depth and challenge. They play to loosen up, give their mind some rest, instead of making it the highlight of the day (or life)
wuzzdat? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2971 Joined: 22 Jun 2008  |
1:You 360 fanboys will lose, And when you do I going to yell it to the people that I called it. 2:I'm more hardcore then 90% of gamestop employees and i'm 13. |
The question is, did the guy's woman give you head after that?