Okay, I've heard enough about SecuROM, the devil DRM that EA's using and all, and I definitely am choosing to avoid it.

But, I seem to have run into a roadblock. What games are afflicted by it? I tried to find a list on the internet, but found nothing. I've been thinking about buying a few games, but now I'm having to question doing so. And I don't want to pirate games made this decade.

So, in the effort of helping other gamers (as well as my self), if you have any non-mentioned games including SecuROM, list them here.

EDIT: Actually, let's not limit it to SecuROM, any intrusive or bad DRM or other things games might have or do.

I think spore will have it. If it does, I'm not buying it.

Every Command and Conquer game has SecuROM as far as I've observed. You can count on EA to put SecuROM on every game they publish.

I think wikipedia can help you out there.

sorry just woke up and brain is a little fuzzy. SecuRom is when what happens now? isn't it when the "protection" on the CD won't let you play it because you have two Cd-drives, and/or a mounting program?

ElArabDeMagnifico:
I think wikipedia can help you out there.

I tried. Nothing.

vdgmprgrmr:

ElArabDeMagnifico:
I think wikipedia can help you out there.

I tried. Nothing.

Ah, alright, well I do know there is a "Starforce" list which is the most feared of DRM and SecuROM, so at least there is something.

by answering my question I might be able to help :p

YukoValis:
by answering my question I might be able to help :p

SecuROM is an anti-piracy program used by EA. It's been known to do terrible things, and it has provoked the general hatred of the gaming community.

I thought they ditched it after gamers got all pissed at them about it. It was taken out of Spore, but you still have to register when you install and once a month or some such nonsense, but SecuROM is gone last I heard.

Edit: Unless Wikipedia hasn't been updated to show it (which is possible I suppose), Spore still has it. Hope not.

ah ok I learned from Armake21 (currently nicotine alien on youtube) how to get rid of that. Just look for a No-CD patch or a fix-patch. there is a very good site for all of them, but I am not sure I'm allowed to post it here without getting into trouble.

YukoValis:
ah ok I learned from Armake21 (currently nicotine alien on youtube) how to get rid of that. Just look for a No-CD patch or a fix-patch. there is a very good site for all of them, but I am not sure I'm allowed to post it here without getting into trouble.

Yes, but some of us would rather not do that. Like me. I'm not about to dish fifty or sixty dollars for something I have to fix myself, illegally.

meh I'm going to post this, I think it's funny and I hope not to get in trouble. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-uulRB1OmY

Honestly though I know what you mean, I don't like installing the patches either BUT since I bought the game, it's not really doing anything illeagal. It's just like buying a computer and opening it up to replace the cruddy stock insides.

It is completely legal to do this with a game you own. Because this also happens to be the only way for most pirated games to be run people associate it with being illegal, but its not. If you buy a game you can use no cd/dvd cracks/patches freely. In fact with one game ubisoft used a cracked exe to do something, don't remember completely.

Also first post, yay for me.

And I post here because I am an idiot and was completely wrong. Man I wish there was a way to completely remove a post. Please ignore me.

The threat from SecuROM is completely overblown. I've got several games with it (Medieval II Kingdoms, the most recent two Sims 2 expansions just for starters) and I don't have even the slightest of problems with getting them to work and play well together.

StarForce, on the other hand, actually breaks hardware (seriously, it can fry a DVD-RW drive with its effect on the system, and there are documented examples of this online) and is the single most nasty DRM in existence (add to that the fact that someone on the StarForce forum actually linked to a hack site where people could pirate Galactic Civilizations II because he had his panties in a bunch about Stardock's customer-friendly copyright implementation, one that Paradox Interactive also uses...)

StarForce is worth boycotting. SecuROM is a tempest in a teapot. I'll be buying Spore (and the new Sims 2 expansion, and Empire: Total War, and any other game from EA or Sega that looks good.)

Mr.Bubbles43:
It is completely legal to do this with a game you own. Because this also happens to be the only way for most pirated games to be run people associate it with being illegal, but its not. If you buy a game you can use no cd/dvd cracks/patches freely. In fact with one game ubisoft used a cracked exe to do something, don't remember completely.

Also first post, yay for me.

Not in the USA you can't do it legally. Defeating a copy protection without the express written consent of the copyright holder is a violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and can cost you a five-figure fine and jail time (although the jail time usually only goes to those who distribute the hack, the fine goes for anyone who gets caught). When a copyright holder issues a patch nullifying the DRM, that's legal. When someone cracks their own software that is a crime under U.S. law.

One post, one profound display of ignorance. You're battin' a thousand.

I'm still not sure exactly sure what SecuROM is, and the wikipedia page didnt help, but I also don't want to end up buying spore and having SecuROM mess up my comp. I barely know how to keep my PC running as it is.

There's already a metric ton of discussions about piracy here. Please use the search feature. Thanks.