I personally think halo is awesome but loads of people on forums and people I know seem to hate it more than a baby eating rapist. Can anyone explain to me why halo is hated by so many people.

Because Halo is basically the new thing to mimic, and so ever since it was released we've seen near to zero creativity from the games industry. The fact that the only successful titles are the ones that show innovation seems to fly right over the heads of the legions of 'lets be like Halo' productions that get churned out en mass.

It's all about Hype and people maiking out to be something more than it is. I've been informed that online is where it's at. I've played many FPS shooters that were more exciting for me. The ,most notable being KillSwitch. That was genuinely tense. And No One Lives Forever which was a hell of a lot of fun. Halo just never stirred my porridge.

Because people need something to hate, otherwise they don't have much to do.

Well, I always thought Halo was an... Ok game. Its just the people that play is are total pricks, and madaxeman.

I don't really play Xbox Live any more, because Halo's players are horrible, and don't know why I don't play CoD4.

mooma482:
Because Halo is basically the new thing to mimic, and so ever since it was released we've seen near to zero creativity from the games industry.

Now that's just bullshit. There's always been a quagmire of crappy games coming out, but because they're now first person space marine shooters trying to make a cash in, rather than - for example - shitty point and click adventure games, people blame Halo.

And people seem to have this idea that there's a mass mob calling Halo the best first person shooter ever, and every time the mob speaks it causes physical pain to grandmothers. It's an opinion, ill educated though it might be, and let them keep it. It doesn't harm you, as long as companies like Valve exist. Whining about it just makes you an annoying, pretentious prick as well.

Because being contrary is cool.

"Hey look, everyone likes that. If I say I hate it then I'll be different and girls might notice me."

Three reasons.

1) It rips off Metroid to the extreme.
2) It's heavily overrated.
3) It serves as inspiration for 90% of all games these days. Most of which are somewhere between bad and below average.

because master chief is a navy rank and he was a marine or something.

I don't hate it... I just don't like it. Hasnt done anything that great to draw me in.

OK, if you love Halo you can't ask this question. Because, if you were indifferent to Halo you would probably be saying something along the lines of "Wow, A lot of people sure really seem to like this game."

Which is primarily the answer, Halo sells to a large audience which leads to any number of reasons for the wrath:

1. Hate the big dog. Why do people hate Sony or Microsoft or Apple or EA? Because they make billions of dollars and don't give two rats asses about anything other than making billions of dollars which will always cheese people off.

2. More people know about them, Dark Corners of the Earth may be a hate worthy game to a lot of the same people that hate Halo, but they don't talk about it because they don't know it.

3. The idiot douchebag fan-boy factor. I'm no Halo fan, but if I say that anywhere I guarantee that there'll be twelve different people telling me how it is the awesomest game evarr because people line up for it and I must have no skill or taste if I don't reply instantly with a "oh you're totally right, I just replayed the first two and bought the third after your post". No one likes having their opinions flatly de-validated with no consideration and when it happens the end result is likely a total hatred of those posters and the game they represent.

4. The over-hype. Honestly, Halo is pretty run of the mill. Sure it's good, but it isn't great. The first one could have been decently argued to be great, but the third one... There is absolutely nothing revolutionary, innovative, or terribly outstanding about it. There is nothing wrong with that, a lot of people like it, a lot of people play it, it put a lot of money into being put together well. But based on the ammount of fan hype it gets, a lot of new players (JRPGers or RTSers as most FPSers are already on board) become frustrated and annoyed that the Halo0 experience doesn't offer anything other than the standard FPS experience.

Now no more of these threads. I am almost positive you already knew all that and this was just a passive aggressive way of saying how great Halo is and that it is silly for any one to think different. Next thing you know it will be something like "Why do so many people hate chocolate cake?"

Most people saw it is a jewel of inovation, actually nothing was farther from the truth

- Im seeing mention of metroid but even then it was linear as a length of cable
- people thought "hey, only two weapons! thats great!" obviously never having played an online game
- vechiles.... dont get me started
- the multi-play: ok, this is the big one, it inspired a legion of brain dead who ACTUALLY thought it was the inventor of local deathmatch and then online play (welcome to 1994 kiddies)
- the SinglePlay: while it saved itself by executing the drama well (the music score for the first kinda saved it) all the campaigns have just been diabolical - this takes me back to the multiplay as people admit the SP is bad but that the mutiplayer excuses all faults like it represents pinacle of mans achievment with the microprossesor: as Yahtzee said "a game that is supposedly perfect wouldn't need anything to excuse it"
- The game showed in its sequals that people are willing to slap on a score simply cause they liked the previous installment: do you seriously believe that a game as flawed as halo 3 deserved the credit of "best game of the decade" and "most inovative game of the year" (I could go on a major side rant about how its as inovative as a round stone but I dont have time) and 10/10 in every catogary while activly considering all the other greats that came out in 2007?
- its fanboys/girls are... you know what, Im done, my head is sore and Im typing incoherently now, I cant even be bother spell checking this, my apologies

Every single shooter since Halo has tried to copy it, and we're the ones to suffer.

It's not what it is, it's what it represents.

It represents an industry that's pleased to ride the coat tails of past glories to rape your wallet, delivering a game that is a mere shell of what previous games have been.

because a lot of people enjoy the game.

I don't hate it I just don't like it for what it is doing to the gaming industry. Ever since halo became online there have been more gamers in the world, which is good. A lot of those gamers, however, tend to only like games that are like halo. So now games have been less and less difficult and less and less like the genre to draw more gamers in. Few games have an original story line and the ones that do and are really fun are overlooked by the mainstream gaming community. Look at rainbow six, the original was heavily strategic, but now it is getting less and less strategic. It has destroyed many game series that I held dear.

its just...not fun
shouldn't that be the only reason not to like a game?

I personally feel it's a great game... and I don't play on Xbox Live at all. I enjoyed the singleplayer and the split screen co-op with friends. I think it gets all this hate because of a few reasons:

1. It was over-hyped. WAY over-hyped. I enjoy the game but still feel it could have been a LOT bigger.
2. The "Xbox Live Experience". Nuff said.
3. Halo has legions of fans, the average IQ of which is below 60. These sort of people make everyone sick, on XBL, forums, or in real life.
4. Compared to other FPSes, it's average. Nothing remarkable. But the fanboys(/girls?) won't believe its anything less than TEH BEST GAME EVAR

While Halo started off pretty good (admit it, the first one wasn't that bad) they ruined it with the inevitable addition of sequels (and will probably continue to do so, 3 may have finished the fight but I guarentee you they will just come up with a slightly different enemy for the Chief to fight and throw the flood in again).

Halo is average above all else but, like Army of Two, everyone hates it because its the cool thing to do. Shunning flawed mainstream games while accepting and praising equally flawed indie and web browser games (I tried the Braid demo...it wasn't that great) allows you to blend in with the emo/indie/alternate crowd who (along with the advent of the casual gamer) have dominated the gaming world (can't beat them, join them and hope they don't notice).

Because Halo has always been putting things PC gamers have "always and only" had on consoles, and they don't like it. Think about it, what was the last big PC exclusive shooter? Crysis, right?

And as a symbol of Microsoft Games the Sony fans (even the more reasonable ones) strongly dislike it for stealing such a large market share from their beloved corporation. What they don't realize is that the only console producing company to stay on top of the market for more than one generation was Nintendo (whooo, Nintendo!).

Then there's the "it's cool to be contrary" effect. Which is of course related to the "lets worship Yahtzee" movement.

Of course, some people genuinely think it's not a great game without tainted preconceptions. These either hate it for the hype or the fanboys/girls. Or sometimes the high review scores.

Lastly there's those that played the game expecting too much from it. If people expected anything more than a solid, highly polished shooter similar to Unreal Tournament if that had a story and clean, colorful graphics and some novel, well executed if not totally original gameplay mechanics then they'd be disapointed and probably very angry.

From what I've seen in the recent years, I've come to the conclusion that people hate Halo because it was stuffed in their faces repeatedly. Ads, videos (machinima on youtube :S) and the fans that praised it like it's made from pure God essence!
Moreover every game and their dog tries to copy Halo and it's multiplayer.
Finally there are the underaged racist screaming kids... I personally do not hate Halo, nor do I love it.

In fact I NEVER played Halo, so I don't think I have the rights to rag on it. Forgive me people for I have sinned :(

I think I speak for most here when I say: We don't hate Halo, we just don't think it deserves the praise it gets, because it's average, run of the mill
Also it's been a large jump for machinima, which is one of the reasons I like it

I do think the fandom has a lot more to do with this than the game itself, which is decent and fun. But throw in the legions of people ready to attack someone who doesn't think it's the best thing since sliced bread and you have hate that perpetuates itself.

Final Fantasy VII falls into this category. It's a pretty good game, but the obsessive fandom over it has soured it in the minds of others, whether you have a legitamite beef with it or you hate it because it's cool to.

First off...

1) It rips off Metroid to the extreme.

Can somone please explain that to me? I'm so confused. How is that remotely connected?

I will admit right now. I am a huge Halo fan. I think I beat Halo ones campign atleast 12 times and have read almost every book in the series. So I geuss I'm considered a fanboy? This by far is not the only game I like. You have to understand that you can't hate a game based upon a few lil bastards that ruin the multiplayer fun. I onestly believe Halo one and three had spectacular multiplayer.

Secondly,

Unsung:
Every single shooter since Halo has tried to copy it, and we're the ones to suffer.

Yeah. That is the sad part about this industry. Since it is still driven only by moeny when somthing sucessful comes along everyone tries to copy it. It's not halos fault its the narrow minded people. For gods sake look what there doing to xbox live. It's gunna be just like the wii! Why? Because Microsoft likes money. I mean there going to go to the lengths of even having a company besides bungie make a halo 4. Disgusting...

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Then there's the "it's cool to be contrary" effect. Which is of course related to the "lets worship Yahtzee" movement.

I sense a little bit of that going on. I mean what? Just because it is good you should hate it so your different. That is pathetic. People have reasons for hating that are perfectly OK but for the rest of you, stop breeding.

Because everyone has their own opinion.

Just because you love and enjoy Halo, doesn't mean everyone else does.

Personally, I feel the franchise is overrated, and that the Halo series is average, at best, but that's just me.

joltheadporgy:
its just...not fun
shouldn't that be the only reason not to like a game?

I respect your opinion. Maybe it isn't to your taste. However, I think the problem is that twofold:

1. The Campaign is underwhelming - I was greatly relieved to find that it wasn't rubbish like Halo 2, but it didn't recapture the original's magic.

2. The Multiplayer would be perfect if it wasn't for the abuse of team-chat (only once out of 2000+ games have my team "communicated").

So, you have a phenomenon where you get Halo zealots who are either super-competitive "lone-wolves", or properly organized as part of a clan and can enrich the multiplayer experience by warning their team-mates of a threat (enemy sniper location), highlighting an opportunity (banshee respawn), or a strategic weakness (say, calling out a number in a territories game to organize an offense or defense) - this is what I mean by "communicating"; and as I only enter matchmaking with random others (in Ranked games) this almost never happens.

Then, these Multiplayer Clan zealots 'meet' those who didn't like the Campaign and then say "How can you not like Halo 3, it is awesome!" and then the Campaign players feel irritated at the money they feel they wasted on what was a hyped game and they say "It was over-hyped" thinking that this is reasonable (after all, they are not saying the zealot is wrong to like it, or that Halo 3 is crap, just that they were underwhelmed and given the fanfare they expected more), but the zealot doesn't hear it this way and brings up the multiplayer, which for them (because they use team-chat properly as part of a clan IS AWESOME) and the other guy who only really bought it for the story says "Yeah, I tried that... it was no fun" whilst forgetting to say why it was no fun for them - the racism, homophobia, singing, electric-guitar playing, team-betrayals in Capture The Flag matches so that a super-competitive player on your team can claim the point you should have scored for carrying the flag across the entire map under enemy fire, just so they can rank up a little bit more... the tea-bagging, corpse-humping and early exits by opponents who had made fun of your rank in the lobby and said that they were going to "rape you" and then in fear of what you might say after the game quit halfway through when they thought they would suffer a humiliating loss, etc, etc.

This results in a situation where the two people having different opinions about the game haven't actually had a similar experience of it. In a way they are both right and both wrong. The latter case applies because the zealot should appreciate that Xbox live needs moderators, like any forum, and the "casual" gamer needs to appreciate that they haven't seen the best aspect of the game as it was intended to be enjoyed, with a dose of strategy and camaraderie.

there was too much hype over it. i mean the trailers were pretty lame too (still got it since halo2 multiplayer with friends was fun).
i just feel that they got kinda lazy in story,gameplay and enemies (nobody else notice the elite is really just alien + predator combined?). hell they even copied the black guy from predator. replace the halo ring with the ark and elites with brutes tada. also my moderately anticipated multiplayer was well a load of crap - 6 assault rifle bullets melee/grenade rinse repeat for ever mode that didnt make you use 1 weapon.
although i mainly think its hated due to the never ending onslaught of kids screaming claiming it the best thing since toilet paper. its medicore and too many companies want to make games just like halo but still sticking to their story.
and before i get bashed for prejudice i REALLY did try to play it again but after 1 game i just couldnt grasp any enjoyment

Because Master Chief is the guy that makes fun of me every day in school.

Hmm, maybe it would be better to post/read through in one of the 5 million already existent threads...although you'll notice a habit of them being locked.

Two words: bro game.

Kukakkau:
(nobody else notice the elite is really just alien + predator combined?).

Elites have hooves, idiot.

kidding

ElArabDeMagnifico:
Hmm, maybe it would be better to post/read through in one of the 5 million already existent threads...although you'll notice a habit of them being locked.

This one's gone on almost a full page without cause for locking. Maybe this one will fade away of it's own accord.

EDIT:

Eggo:
Two words: bro game.

Only you say that, WTF is a "bro game?"

I'm not mad, you just use such an idiocentric jargon and expect others to comprehend it.

Pretty much this.

Eldritch Warlord:

Eggo:
Two words: bro game.

Only you say that, WTF is a "bro game?"

I'm not mad, you just use such an idiocentric jargon and expect others to comprehend it.

Seconded.

I don't hate Halo, I hate the massive monster that is the Hardcorz Halo fanbase.

I hate it as a symbol not for itself

Halo 3 was an ok game. There was nothing great about it. But people were expecting the best thing ever. Not only that, It sucks compared to Halo2, because Halo 3's multiplayer was ok, but didn't capture the fun of 2.