DannyDeparted: I like my 360 and the games it has to offer, but thats just me. Cant wait for Fable 2!!!! and i'd never use the Blu-ray feature cause i'm not gonna pay more for movies for an unnoticable difference in quality.
People are underestimating blu-ray. It's not JUST higher quality. It means MORE space. So more bonus features, more content.
Oh come on, there is never more than an hours worth of interesting extras on a DVD, with the rest being incredibly dull. If you honestly have ever thought "You know what this film could use? More 'making of' documentaries" then you have a twisted sense of entertainment.
Aries_Split: Don't get so riled up mate, no need to break out the "list".
Yes, curse him for providing evidence to back up his argument!
If I had done that, I would have got shit because no one wants to see the PS3's list of exclusives. I take it he's excited for Yu-Gi-OH unleashed?
Aries_Split: If I had done that, I would have got shit because no one wants to see the PS3's list of exclusives. I take it he's excited for Yu-Gi-OH unleashed?
So two wrongs make a right?
If you hadn't mocked him for constructing a proper argument then no one would have. It seemed like the appropiate moment to post a list; his only other option would be to say "Nu-uh", to which you would've replied to with "Ya-huh", and back and forth it would go. And no you wouldn't have got shit for posting a list of exclusives; it is about as important to the central argument and the original post as possible. I certainly wouldn't have mocked you, and obviously anyone who would is not worth caring about.
I would say don't get one. Yes I could play the 'controller is crap' argument or the 'sixaxis is even worse' argument what is all fiar, and I agree with totaly. But In my opinion, the game lineup for PS3 isn't that impressive. People say it has MGS 4, I thought that was terrible, just step back and look at the plot in front of you. Resistance, yes will probably be good.
But when I look at the 360's line up I'm more excited about it because.. Well to me the games coming out for it appeal to me.
Dude forget all the specs and stuff, think about what games you like, and what consle offers the best play time for them.
As for Blu Ray. It makes a huge difference if you've got the right TV for it. Unfortunately the feature also makes the ps3 weaker as a games console. You know those long ass installs the ps3 needs to ensure loading times match the 360? (anyone who's played MGS4 can now sigh heavily and take another shot) They're all the Blu Ray baby. Huge storage space but info access times that make a retarded turtle with gammy leg look like Usain Bolt.
RetiarySword: People say it has MGS 4, I thought that was terrible
...seriously? Honestly, that's the first time I've heard something bad about it (well, an overall negative opinion on it anyway) from someone who played it all the way through.
Huh.
And there are plenty of good games, and more coming out. Don't believe the bull.
Jumplion: NO! This has turned into a war torn battle field! RUN AWAY.
Though for the people who side stepped, good for you (you know who you are)
I still suggest to wait for more games you're interested in, and maybe some bundles.
Jamash: I had a enough money saved up to get either a 360 or PS3, and I was never convinced about the PS3. There was just something about it that put me off (maybe I couldn't get my head around the claim of 4D graphics?!) & something that told me it wouldn't be as fun as my PS2. Plus I had 3 PS2's die on me with no help from Sony, so I wasn't going to risk that happening when spending PS3 amounts of money..
I dunno, I think i've heard of "4D" graphics before. It's not what I think you might mean (I.E. an extra dimension) but I can't quite recall what 4D is. I know i've heard it before, just don't know where. Maybe there's a Wiki-article on it...
As I recall, and I think I'm paraphrasing from Dr Who here, the 4th dimension is time. So every game is 4d because every game actually obeys the laws of time.
RetiarySword: I would say don't get one. Yes I could play the 'controller is crap' argument or the 'sixaxis is even worse' argument what is all fiar, and I agree with totaly. But In my opinion, the game lineup for PS3 isn't that impressive. People say it has MGS 4, I thought that was terrible, just step back and look at the plot in front of you. Resistance, yes will probably be good.
But when I look at the 360's line up I'm more excited about it because.. Well to me the games coming out for it appeal to me.
What line up? Beyond three games coming out this Christams (One of which is likely to be crap and spit upon everything anyone ever liked about the original, and one of which is now looking disturbing) what games do they have that are concretely set? Besides Huxley (which I think suffers from a bad case of the Goldeneye: Rogue Agents, since it doesn't have a thing to do with the breathtaking Brave New World), and Forza 3, it has absolutely no exclusives.
Jumplion: NO! This has turned into a war torn battle field! RUN AWAY.
Though for the people who side stepped, good for you (you know who you are)
I still suggest to wait for more games you're interested in, and maybe some bundles.
Jamash: I had a enough money saved up to get either a 360 or PS3, and I was never convinced about the PS3. There was just something about it that put me off (maybe I couldn't get my head around the claim of 4D graphics?!) & something that told me it wouldn't be as fun as my PS2. Plus I had 3 PS2's die on me with no help from Sony, so I wasn't going to risk that happening when spending PS3 amounts of money..
I dunno, I think i've heard of "4D" graphics before. It's not what I think you might mean (I.E. an extra dimension) but I can't quite recall what 4D is. I know i've heard it before, just don't know where. Maybe there's a Wiki-article on it...
As I recall, and I think I'm paraphrasing from Dr Who here, the 4th dimension is time. So every game is 4d because every game actually obeys the laws of time.
Except Prince of Persia. And Metal Gear Solid 4 if you believe some people.
Indigo_Dingo: What line up? Beyond three games coming out this Christams (One of which is likely to be crap and spit upon everything anyone ever liked about the original, and one of which is now looking disturbing) what games do they have that are concretely set? Besides Huxley (which I think suffers from a bad case of the Goldeneye: Rogue Agents, since it doesn't have a thing to do with the breathtaking Brave New World), and Forza 3, it has absolutely no exclusives.
Yes, but let me tell you about something I like to call "Sony syndrome". Now ocassionally I will see a PS3 or PS3/PC exclusive, and think "wow, that looks neat". For example, The Agency. And then I will forget about it. Then I will drift back, months later, to whatever gaming website it is, and see another video for it. And suddenly I will realise it's not out yet despite me having seen it almost complete ages ago.
Another example is when someone was boasting about Gran Turismo... 5, I think, I don't really care. I made a sarcastic comment about how long it would be before it was out, to which he rebuked "No, it's coming out next week". I was startled, until I found out the real information: the Gran Turismo Prelude, essentially an overhyped demo, was coming out in a month. It would be another year or so before someone got their hands on the full thing.
My point is, and feel to give a billion and one examples of why I'm wrong, due to the shorter development time, there could be a whole bunch of games coming out reasonably soon (Spring 2009) which aren't sufficiently mainstream to be mentioned yet. I wouldn't bet on it, but I wouldn't ignore the possibility.
Come to think of it, since most games the PS3 is getting are coming out over the winter holidays, you probably won't be getting anything else until 2010.
I have nothing else to say though, I voted no, I'm not too interested in the PS3, although I ADORED my PS2. I've jumped on the Xbox wagon on this leg of the console war.
Thats funny, i left the xbox wagon to join the ps3 train.
Aries_Split: You DON'T need a 360 if you have a gaming PC. Disprove this.
OK I will disprove it...
1- I hate using a keyboard and mouse for games. They are not 'TEH UB3R 1337!!!!11!!!!1!ONEONE!!!11' that everyone makes them out to be, it's sitting at a desk, typing. The only game genre that works noticeably better are RTS games and you don't really get them on 360.
2- I don't know about you but in my house the PC is used for work and internet browsing and such, I'm not the only one who does these things, so if I tried to have a gaming marathon I would be interrupted quite a bit. I have an average PC, it cost me money, alot more money than my 360 and I know for a fact that Mass Effect wouldn't work on it, which brings me to...
3- All 360 games will work on a 360 no matter when they came out with no need for costly upgrades.
4- A gaming PC is the single most nerdy thing you can own, bar none.
My final point being that you DON'T need a gaming PC if you have a 360, or a PS3, or even a Sega Megadrive. It's all about opinions, most people have one and contrary to what you might think, quite alot of them differ from yours.
time to to counter your counter-points! wheeeee
1)*sigh* I hate the constant fanboy argument that "your console is just pressing dumb buttons" Every video game involves some mundane finger motion, IT'S NOT A VALID POINT!If Pc gaming is just sitting at a desk typing then console gaming is just sitting on a couch swiveling analog sticks.
2) If your a smart shopper and aren't looking to buy an alienware, you can get a nice gaming PC for the same, or less then a console.(I did)
3) this point is sleightly valid, yes most current gen PC games will not work on your average PC, but as I said above it's not that hard or expensive to get a nice gaming rig if you look around a little.( and while an average PC will look crappier then a ps3, a nice gaming rig can look loads better)
4) Another childish argument,"your console is so nerdy", save it for recess buddy.
Jumplion: NO! This has turned into a war torn battle field! RUN AWAY.
Though for the people who side stepped, good for you (you know who you are)
I still suggest to wait for more games you're interested in, and maybe some bundles.
Jamash: I had a enough money saved up to get either a 360 or PS3, and I was never convinced about the PS3. There was just something about it that put me off (maybe I couldn't get my head around the claim of 4D graphics?!) & something that told me it wouldn't be as fun as my PS2. Plus I had 3 PS2's die on me with no help from Sony, so I wasn't going to risk that happening when spending PS3 amounts of money..
I dunno, I think i've heard of "4D" graphics before. It's not what I think you might mean (I.E. an extra dimension) but I can't quite recall what 4D is. I know i've heard it before, just don't know where. Maybe there's a Wiki-article on it...
As I recall, and I think I'm paraphrasing from Dr Who here, the 4th dimension is time. So every game is 4d because every game actually obeys the laws of time.
Sidestepping the inevitable if not already in progress war going on...
I don't know, I know i've heard of 4D graphics before. I used to think that 4D meant that you have 3 dimensions plus something that makes you feel literally in the screen like your chair rumbling and moving to the spaceships movements or something similar.
I know i've heard of it before, and it's not with time and stuff, I just can't remember. But I HAVE heard of it before.
Jobz: Well if you read the subject I'm sure you get the basic idea of what this thread is about. I've been quite content with just my 360 up to now but it seems that the PS3 is finally going to be getting some really good exclusive titles that I want to get my hands on. But I can't seem to decide if it's worth it or not.
First off is the money issue. I'm looking at getting a 40gig HD used PS3 from Gamestop which normally comes to about $350, however, I have a bunch of trade in credit there and could get it for about $140, add $60 for a game and $20 for the HD cables (Correct me if I'm wrong but I was told it doesn't come with those) and it's about $220. This isn't bad considering what it normally costs, but it's still a lot of money to me.
Second is games. Until Little Big Planet comes out (Which I can't wait to get) I'm gonna want something else to play on it, and I can't seem to fine any games out now for the PS3 that seem worthwhile or that I don't already have or have had for 360. Can anyone suggest any games?
Third thing is Blu-ray. I've never actually seen anything in Blu-ray before and I was basically just wondering if it's all it's cracked up to be.
And finally is the backwards compatibility. The 40 gig version doesn't have any, which sort of annoys me because I still have some great PS2 games I'd love to play again. So all in all I'm basically trying to decide if it's worth it.
Anyone have any other pros or cons related to the PS3 that might help me decide?
I'd say wait till you ahve money for a 80gb PS3. Backwards compatibility is a must!!!!
Indigo_Dingo: What line up? Beyond three games coming out this Christams (One of which is likely to be crap and spit upon everything anyone ever liked about the original, and one of which is now looking disturbing) what games do they have that are concretely set? Besides Huxley (which I think suffers from a bad case of the Goldeneye: Rogue Agents, since it doesn't have a thing to do with the breathtaking Brave New World), and Forza 3, it has absolutely no exclusives.
Yes, but let me tell you about something I like to call "Sony syndrome". Now ocassionally I will see a PS3 or PS3/PC exclusive, and think "wow, that looks neat". For example, The Agency. And then I will forget about it. Then I will drift back, months later, to whatever gaming website it is, and see another video for it. And suddenly I will realise it's not out yet despite me having seen it almost complete ages ago.
Another example is when someone was boasting about Gran Turismo... 5, I think, I don't really care. I made a sarcastic comment about how long it would be before it was out, to which he rebuked "No, it's coming out next week". I was startled, until I found out the real information: the Gran Turismo Prelude, essentially an overhyped demo, was coming out in a month. It would be another year or so before someone got their hands on the full thing.
My point is, and feel to give a billion and one examples of why I'm wrong, due to the shorter development time, there could be a whole bunch of games coming out reasonably soon (Spring 2009) which aren't sufficiently mainstream to be mentioned yet. I wouldn't bet on it, but I wouldn't ignore the possibility.
Come to think of it, since most games the PS3 is getting are coming out over the winter holidays, you probably won't be getting anything else until 2010.
That remains somewhat less relevant, as a slightly delayed game is better than no game at all. Plus, we must still look at Shigerus' mantra in this situation.
two words:free online ps3 is way better, no monthly/yearly subscription required for online gaming, an internet browser, bluetooth, and the fact that home and littleBIGplanet are coming soon, and all the other exclusives are better than 360s and even gears isn't going to be an exclusive anymore, they're remaking it for the ps3, and resistance 2, has anyone else seen the splicer? that gun is badass, i mean, sawblades that get stuck in enemies and continue to spin, thats pretty hardcore, anyway, ps3 pwns, 360 is ok, and you should buy the ps3 if you have the money
Indigo_Dingo: If you want a suggestion of some exclusives to look at, I'd suggest Resistance 2 (I still hope they'll give it the tagline United We Fall, but whatever), Motorstorm: Pacific Rift (while not much heed is being paid to it, it actually does sound pretty good. A wide range of destrctibility along the tracks, differing vehicle forms that vary more than simply alternate skins, and some very nice looking graphics. Not game of the year material, but could be a solid title), Resistance: Fall of Man, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword (its almost criminally short, so maybe you should only rent, but most who've played it agree that it is brilliant), Metal Gear Solid IV (to continue the list of titles where girls continue to kick ass and prove themselves just as good as men - that makes 3), and Warhawk.
Thanks for the suggestions, I've played a few of those and I'll definately look into the others.
shatnershaman: Even as a console Fanboy this is the most flame-y thread I've seen here. I mean everyone is out in force (except Jumplion who I give "props" to.)
Buy It. Has good games and then you've cornered the market on Hardcore console games.
shatnershaman: Even as a console Fanboy this is the most flame-y thread I've seen here. I mean everyone is out in force (except Jumplion who I give "props" to.)
Buy It. Has good games and then you've cornered the market on Hardcore console games.
Until Madworld comes out.
Looks cool. But I don't trust the Wii or SEGA. What with The E3 Press Conference and SEGA's track record.
That really wasn't the question the OP asked, man.
For Backwards compatability, I'm not sure, but I don't think they have plans to bring that back any time soon. But if you have Ps2 games lying around, wouldn't you logically already have a fully fuctional Ps2?
No...My PS2 broke a year or so ago because my brother is a moron and I was foolish enough to let him get near my things. I never got around to buying another one because I already had my 360 so I didn't really see a point. I still have a few games though, the really great ones that I didn't want to trade in.
Okay, first rule about analysts is never belive anything they say until the result has happend. That "prediction" is utter bullshit, don't believe it. Gears could come to PS3 (assuming it's not 2nd/1st party) but don't automatically assume it will happen because some stupid analyst says so. Remember, these are the people who say "Pc/Console gaming is dieing" and all that bull.
Though if it does come to PS3 (which I'm not saying it will! Nor is there a high chance it will!) that's one win for me atleast.
shatnershaman: Even as a console Fanboy this is the most flame-y thread I've seen here. I mean everyone is out in force (except Jumplion who I give "props" to.)
Buy It. Has good games and then you've cornered the market on Hardcore console games.
shatnershaman: Even as a console Fanboy this is the most flame-y thread I've seen here. I mean everyone is out in force (except Jumplion who I give "props" to.)
Oh Hue, you flatter me so.
Why would I want to insult someone with someone who can run for 24/7.
Honestly, the games are the main thing if ye ask me. I don't have one (in fact, all I have is this PC), but if you're trying hard to decide, think about what you're getting. For me, if I'm considering it, it's;
Ratchet and Clank Metal Gear Beyond Good and Evil 2* Bioshock 2* God of War 3 RE5* SH5*
This I would buy, regardless what I think of it (I'm looking to R&C and BGAE2, but not so much SH5 or God of War 3). And of course, some games are meant to be for the PC...
Half Life Ep3 Bioshock 2 C&C RA3 (bleh!)
The second thing (I haven't been through everything, please forgive me) is what else you have. Do you have another console or a good PC? Would you get one if you don't buy a PS3?
For me, my roommate is looking to bring his 360 to our dorm, so I'll at least get some (the ones that are marked *). But I'm still obsessed with Ratchet and Clank, even after all this time, and I love (mostly) Metal Gear's verbal diarhoea, so I still want it.
If I had done that, I would have got shit because no one wants to see the PS3's list of exclusives. I take it he's excited for Yu-Gi-OH unleashed?