Copy Clerk  Posts: 77 Joined: 25 Aug 2008     | |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 441 Joined: 29 Jul 2008     | If you are looking for a better mmo, try cryptic studios. They are a mostly freelance mmo development studio that has just started making their first independant game. |
Paperboy Posts: 27 Joined: 4 Mar 2008 | No, you aren't the only one. But hey, I'm not the one paying for a second 9 to 5, so live and let live. Though the whole game being hacked WOULD be hilarious. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 193 Joined: 18 Aug 2008   | You're not the only one who thinks that, but plenty of people, myself included, are going to disagree. In my experience, WoW is (was?) one of the most immersive, compulsive and fulfilling games of all time. I don't really play it anymore, but at the time it was unbeatable. Epic scale, a real sense of exploration and adventure, co-operating with real life friends, and a near-constant feeling of achievement as you levelled up and improved your gear. Of course there's a point where you'll probably stop playing; you hit 60, or 70 when the expansion came out, you have nowhere new to explore, lose interest in improving your gear, and give up. But that only tends to come after hundreds of hours of enjoyment. Other small companies have released some competition, but the trouble is, you cannot compete with it. It's not for everyone, but ten million subscribers is a hard figure to argue against. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 584 Joined: 10 Apr 2008  | no disrespect to you but the reason you quit the game is because you started feeling set-aside from your friends and wanted to get some confirmation that they still cared about you. You lost all interest in the game because you initial motivation for being in the game was to be social with your friends who were levels ahead of you. Luckily i'm not addicted to EVE yet because it's slower, and u don't have to be at the keyboard 24/7. It's really a much better game... |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 961 Joined: 19 May 2008  | How about playing a game YOU like instead of playing whatever your friends tell you to play, then go to a forum and start the same topic for the billionth time? So you don't like WoW. That's great. Then don't play it. |
Paperboy Posts: 38 Joined: 18 Jan 2008  |
Actually, Cryptic made City of Heroes/Villains (one of the best MMO's ever in my opinion, although the lack of end-game killed it). Or do you mean "independent" because it isn't being published by NCsoft anymore? (or is it? I donno). |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 56 Joined: 17 Aug 2008 | if you want an online RPG although not MMO try Kingdom Of Loathing (www.kingdomofloathing.com) if you havent already |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1908 Joined: 16 May 2008    | I don't suggest you go back and play a game you don't want to play and I've quit as well but the game is built for the highest level of character playing at level 40 sucks it gets better for most people at 70 |
Muckraker  Posts: 270 Joined: 4 Sep 2008 | I really liked WoW. Prior to the expansion, I hit level 60, and was still enjoying playing. One of my biggest complaints was always that for the really good stuff you had to get in large raid groups. I was in a guild that did raids all the time, but with a family, I just didn't have time to devote to the game. My wife started playing too, so eventually we got a 2nd account. I let continue playing on my main while I started new characters on the 2nd account. She had to stop playing due to pregnancy complications and it was really uncomfortable for her to sit at the computer. About this time, Oblivion came out also - so I started getting into that game. After a month of not touching WoW, my wife wanted to terminate one of the accounts instead of paying for 2 of them. This really bugged me. I had all this time on my main account (with alts), and all the time put into the 2nd account. I couldn't choose - but I definitely wanted to keep my main. Eventually, I just gave it up altogether. I miss it sometimes, but I just don't have the time to put into it. I tried to go back to Anarchy Online - the free version - but I just didn't have the time to spend with that either. With a 2 year old, a 1 year old, and another kid on the way... I don't think I'll have time for MMORPGs anytime soon. On the plus side, by the time they're all grown up, there should be one hell of an online RPG game out there. One of my dreams for an online RPG is a world sort of like Oblivion/Morrowind where there are actions that affect the rest of the world. I want a game that isn't just a grind - where you can explore, do what you want, and become an awesome character in your own way. I have a lot of ideas, but I don't know if they'll ever be implemented... /rant Sorry about the wall of text. Just had to get all that off my chest. :) |
Paperboy  Posts: 42 Joined: 4 Sep 2008 | Meh, I'm a fan of World of Warcraft, its better then most any other MMO out there, except for MMO's released by Cryptic. Well... Just City of Heroes/Villains really, Exteel, Lineage, and Guild Wars all blow chunks. It's easy to get into, its got an addictive lore, and there is plenty to do. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 584 Joined: 10 Apr 2008 |
I empathized (things have since changed as i will soon elaborate on) with you man. I was in all the end game guilds etc, and it was good, but i also soon (Actually it took three and a half years) developed a hankering for something 'more' - and i have to say in all honesty EVE fits in with the descriptors you just laid down. |
Muckraker Posts: 270 Joined: 4 Sep 2008 | Nooo! I'm scared to get involved in it because I'll get addicted and won't want to give up my account. One of my WoW friends is trying to get me to check it out. Maybe if I get bored with Spore... |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 421 Joined: 2 Feb 2008 | *sigh* To those saying it: wow isnt addictive. shut up.
You dont like WoW... good for you? Your not the only one who thinks its overrated and wants something bad to happen to it. Granted i'm not one of these people but whatever. And why were you wanting people to dissuade you of your opinion of a game you didnt like? If you dont like it you dont like it thats your call. |
Beat Writer Posts: 182 Joined: 18 Jun 2008 |
Assuming EA actually lets you play it :/
One of the worst points to make about MMO games. If they're not enjoying the game, they're not going to play to endgame when it 'gets better.' Meh, doubt there's going to be a competent rival to the WoW throne. |
Muckraker Posts: 270 Joined: 4 Sep 2008 |
What's that supposed to mean? Other than the fact that I'm going to be REALLY pissed off if I get out to sea and can't activate it over the internet first... |
Copy Clerk Posts: 77 Joined: 25 Aug 2008 |
Hate to be so blunt but you are wrong. When my friends started playing wow, i was level 30, and slowly but surely they creeped up on me because i was bored of leveling. Our 70 friend told us that when we hit 70 we would start "playing" the game, talking about PVP and how much better it would be. And the more i thought about that, the less interested i became. I was working and playing a character, and doing the same motion everyday, and just so i oculd fight some other people who played as much as i did? I literally stopped seeing the appeal, its that simple. |
Muckraker  Posts: 262 Joined: 11 Aug 2008 | I cant see the point in any MMORPG, they are all effectivly the same quest repeated ad infinitum. But if you like it then play it, I just cant see the point in paying a subscription for a massive grind-a-thon |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 584 Joined: 10 Apr 2008 |
Righto
It's different for different people - for me it's about avatar development. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 72 Joined: 4 Jul 2008 | I enjoyed WoW while I played it. It's basically taken the various cookie cutters from popular MMORPGs and standardized them, kind of like how way back in the day England was using a billion systems of measurement that changed every year before somebody sat down and said "OK, we're doing it THIS way." WoW is a formula, like most modern MMORPGs, and it was one of the first to make it marketable to a playerbase wider than "people who are already interested in MMORPGs." WoW, pre-Burning Crusade, was a fun time for me. It was a hard grind, to be sure, but there was this mystery of so much to do. Of course, that was probably due to me being a dumb newbie. Still, there was a lot I never knew about, including how to get attuned to some of the high-level dungeons, events that happened only in those uber-elite level 60 areas, or even the holiday quests! It was this fantasy that one day I would be level 60 and know all of this stuff. Burning Crusade came out and made all of that basically moot. It put all the interesting stuff in Outland, and then later went back to "streamline" the "getting to Outland" part of the game. Essentially, there were 58 levels that were just milking you for your time before you could get to all the stuff they put in for you to "enjoy." This really didn't sit right with me, a casual player who just wanted to have fun with the game, when all of their content was thrust into the 61-70 bracket. Karazhan became the new Dungeon of the Day. Apparently some very serious raiding guilds took this a little personally, since raiding had always been something that required a more-than-casual dedication to the game. On the surface it looks like anyone can get the same gear the hardcore raiders or PVPers can, but the reality is that the grind is even worse; casual players will generally be doing the Honor Farming or Karazhan PuGs themselves, not in a group of friends and skilled companions. Playing WoW is only a step above playing WoW alone, but it is the fact WoW can be solo'd all the way up until you want to do some complicated level 70 stuff that makes it appealing to a lot of antisocial roleplayers like the people I used to play with. :P With Wrath of the Lich King on the horizon, I can definitely say I won't be going back to WoW until every class in the game has a "Start at level 55" button. I'm tired of 1-58, because after getting two level 70 characters and a plethora of mid-40s after grinding through the same repetitious crap to get to Outland where the fun half of the game is, I want to get on with the rest of the content already. I don't want to have to re-level another character just so I can look around Northrend, go "Oh, cool," and then never play again because I'm not "serious enough" for 10-man Arthas raids. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 3 Joined: 4 Sep 2008 | I liked WoW for the instances. I managed to make it to lv. 52 and was getting close to all my friends who had been playing it way longer than I had. Then The Burning Crusade was released adding 10 levels extra for me to catch up to the rest of my guild. That kinda put me off it. Long instances were a factor too. I've played long RPGs and other games for 8+ hours a day but you can pause those. When you can't stop for half an hour for dinner or some other interruption during an instance or a raid that lasts for a few hours then it's just a little too much. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 102 Joined: 18 Jul 2008 | WoW... It's not a game it's a job. A job that you have to pay to show up at. Unless you have a nice group of friends to play with I find that rediculous. But only as rediculous as discovering that I am incapable of spelling the word rediculous. |
Paperboy  Posts: 41 Joined: 27 Dec 2007 | I have a strange History with for. for the longest time, i was a guild wars player. I really liked the game, but after i had beaten all the xpansions and done everything there was to be done within the game, i got bored of it. I got sick of all the monsters and npcs being 10x stronger than me when i had spent so much time playing and saving the world and such. then i switched to wow. played it for about 3 months or so, but then realized that it wasn't worth paying for. sure its a fun game, its really immersive, its probably the biggest game world ive ever experienced, but its not worth paying to play it. imo i dont think any game is worth paying a subscription fee to play. however, on private servers, it removes most of the grinding. the one im on has x50 exp, and x40 loot and gold. makes lvling to 70 a snap, so you can get into the real fun of the game near the end, with pvp and rading and whatnot. besides, i will most likely stop all together when some of the good games start coming out, fallout 3, force unleashed, saints row 2, fable 2 ect start coming out. i think of wow as a time waster basically. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1908 Joined: 16 May 2008 | "One of the worst points to make about MMO games. If they're not enjoying the game, they're not going to play to endgame when it 'gets better.'" *shrug* that's how almost all MMOs are. It's a sad truth of the genre. |
Paperboy  Posts: 28 Joined: 12 Sep 2008 | I think it's overrated, however, I do play it occasionally. Right now my account is inactive, but it is something that I plan to play some more of. And of course, just gotta be careful how much you play, because time has a tendency to disappear when playing it. |
Paperboy  Posts: 25 Joined: 10 Sep 2008 | I really enjoyed WoW until The burning crusades was released and it went down hill from there :/ |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1011 Joined: 1 Dec 2007  |
That's the best review I've ever heard. I may have to check it out. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 104 Joined: 29 Aug 2008 | I hate WoW. I just don't see any depth to it. Go talk to NPC->NPC gives you easy to understand quest->you get some friends and do quest->repeat over and over again until you have reached the desired level or amount of money (and the fact that everyone does the same quests doesn't help). I want something more open ended and with far less NPC's (or at least NPC's that just stand in one place or walk around in a small area). AI is progressing really quickly, why can't they put good AI in mmorpg's? |
Muckraker  Posts: 272 Joined: 5 Jun 2008 | I never liked WOW but I don't hate it. I only played because all my friends were, but as soon as I got to level 60 they all left! I would say it is the most active MMO out there, it had everything and more and alot of people appreciate that. But I wish all the other MMOs didn't try to copy WOW, I left Lineage 2 cause of that. I really don't want a cyber gang to take over WOW, Blizzard has probably been the only company that hasn't produced a shit game. Plus if a cyber gang could take over WOW, that would be scary! |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1079 Joined: 8 Apr 2008  | Bah, I actually really liked WoW when it first came out, but then it earned itself the most immature community of any MMO I've played (and I've played a lot). I couldn't take it anymore and quit playing. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 617 Joined: 8 Jul 2008 | World of Warcraft was really fun while I played it. I had a level 44 dwarf around the time when I couldn't play much due to school. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 183 Joined: 11 Jul 2008 | I think the reason I hate it is that you pay every month to do the same shit over and over again while a computer at the other end of the world rolls dice for you. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 453 Joined: 12 Sep 2008 | I don't like WoW and MMORPGs because: |
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You know, I'm sorry but i've gotta admit. I really dislike WoW.
I used to play and i used to try to care and no matter how many of my real friends played it, i couldnt enjoy it. I got to Lvl 40, rogue. And i just stopped playing. I completely lost interest. I realized i just have no emotion towards this game. And all my friends surpassed me in level.
Am i the only one who thinks its overrated, and would love for some other small company to release some competition, or to see WoW lose. Am i the only one who , strangely, wants WoW to get hijacked by a massive hacker cyber gang?
Yes, i said it. Attempt to dissuade me.