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Another mediocre game that doesn't deserve the attention (Force Unleashed)

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anNIALLator
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I've only read one review, but it was pretty positive, 7/10. This review had pretty weak points. Linearity is not a thing to mark a game down for. It never did Call of Duty or Half Life any bad, did it? Bugs and glitches was the only semi valid point in this 'review'. How would multiplayer have worked in STFU?

tiredinnuendo
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anNIALLator:
I've only read one review, but it was pretty positive, 7/10. This review had pretty weak points. Linearity is not a thing to mark a game down for. It never did Call of Duty or Half Life any bad, did it? Bugs and glitches was the only semi valid point in this 'review'. How would multiplayer have worked in STFU?

Well, there's the obvious arena deathmatch model that worked so well in Jedi Knight.

There's the expanded "Movie battles" esq version, where you have an objective to complete or defend.

There's the "King of the mountain" type gameplay where you have a two teams of normal guys and the high-performer in each round is promoted to Jedi in the next round.

I can think of several ways multiplayer would work. Hell, the Wii version has it, so clearly even they can think of at least one way.

- J

Imitation Saccharin
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Amnestic:

Not being the next game in a series YOU want is not a negative point on the game, no matter how much you want it to be.

Pick a game you don't like.
Now when you say something against it, your point is now negated because you're simply measuring against what YOU want to play, instead of what IT is.

Woe Is You
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anNIALLator:
How would multiplayer have worked in STFU?

If the game had just plain well done good old lightsaber battles in multiplayer, that would've been enough for me to run out and get a copy.

Nokterne
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My biggest problem with the game is its mechanics. You can't dodge while blocking (like every other 3rd-person game in existence) and movement just feels awkward. The combat is too shallow in my opinion.

Cyclomega
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Nokterne, sorry to bring counter examples, but Sengoku Basara and Ninja Gaiden (for instance) let you do so.

Veacane
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Why are you getting mad that people re giving it an average review, you said it was mediocre.

Veacane
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Nokterne:
My biggest problem with the game is its mechanics. You can't dodge while blocking (like every other 3rd-person game in existence) and movement just feels awkward. The combat is too shallow in my opinion.

One word "Fable"

OuroborosChoked
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I can't see how anyone would think this game would be good... the ending's given away before you even play the game!

You're Vader's apprentice, right? And Vader's the game's bad guy, right? And Vader dies at the end of Return of the Jedi, right? How can you possibly win, then? You know the ending before the game freakin' begins!

SimpleReally
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as a rule, games based on movies = avoid like the plague

Amnestic
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SimpleReally:
as a rule, games based on movies = avoid like the plague

and if it were actually based on a movie as opposed to the Star Wars universe (which is, for better or worse, far more than just movie titles) you'd have a point relevant to the current discussion.

Imitation Saccharin :

Amnestic:

Not being the next game in a series YOU want is not a negative point on the game, no matter how much you want it to be.

Pick a game you don't like.
Now when you say something against it, your point is now negated because you're simply measuring against what YOU want to play, instead of what IT is.

Okay, fine. Your point is well made, but you must understand where I'm coming from. Many of his points were "It's not Jedi Knights, therefore it's shit. It doesn't have this from Jedi Knights, therefore it's shit."

COR 2000
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Guys, I think I should mention one important thing: THE GAME ISN'T EVEN OUT YET.

All I'm saying is, don't start bashing the game before it even hits store shelves. That just seems a little unfair and this is starting to smell like a rant.

laikenf
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Yeah I also love the Jedi Knight series, and Jedi Outcast (wich is in my top 5 favorite games list) has a better and more immersive story than any of the new Star Wars prequel movies.

Fangface74
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The mechanics are pretty bad, if you get knocked down, you can still be hit & hurt. I don't know about the OP saying it's too easy, even on medium it's a pain in the arse, some/most enemies can block most of your attacks, this 'high powered sith' stuff doesn't really seem so cool when an irate poison spitting plant is more of an annoyance than a squadron of Tie Fighters. The force throwing items mechanic is badly designed given the level design, some times you lock on to a piece of pipe only to have it 'bend a bit', other lock ons rupture entire walls....truly a missed opportunity at greatness this game was!

RedElectric
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The Wii gets multiplayer...or was something other than deathmatches and the like desired?

Eldritch Warlord
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Based purely on you're description I'd say it deserves 60-70 on Metacritic, as in fun but nothing special. And I don't really see it getting much attention really, aside from what you'd expect for a part of the best-selling sci-fi franchise ever.

PersianLlama
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Dealin Burgers:
Was it really a suprise?

Nope. Not for me anyways.

Programmed_For_Damage
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See this is the thing I was worried about, that you were so overpowered that the game would be a cake-walk. Turns out I was right.

Plus the ending is given away before it starts. At the start of Star Wars: ANH, Darth Vader does not have an apprentice anymore. Sure they can spin it certain ways but I think we all know where it's headed.

hem dazon 90
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i liked it

gameking218
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I played the demo, and I thought it was God of War combat. And by that I mean amazing. I mean that gives you so much power, and on the hardest difficulty (avalible, it was on hard instead of the avalible very hard) I died 30+ times. It was hard having to know when to run up and kill, and when to lightning, and when to throw things, and I felt like a jedi for the short time the demo was. I disagree with you, but you are intitled to your opinion, and I respect the points you did bring up. But:
* The length is a real issue and can't be countered. Good one.
* They said there was never any multiplayer
-Again, GoW comparison, it didn't have multiplayer ether.
*This isn't a RPG, it's a Action game. A branching story should have been there, but you can't really be very angry that it isn't
*Difficulty is in the hands of the beholder
-It is called "The Force Unleshed" not "The Force in moderete bite sized sizes". They advertised the redicules powers.
*A single patch can fix any bug, but they shouldn't have been there to start

Thats it.

hem dazon 90
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you said it best gameking its NOT jedi knight its sith lord actually thats a good title...

Gormourn
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I think they are overmilking the whole Star Wars franchise.
Star Wars games were good back in 2002 or so... and well, Knight of the old republic were good but it's an rpg, not a shooter type game.

Kukul
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i knew it sucked when i saw it advertises on break.com
and im glad because i dont own a console

pieeater911
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You're surprised that Lucas-Arts made a bad Star Wars game?

They make about one good Star Wars games per every seven bad ones.

Haven't they been doing that since...you know, the company was created?

Drednought1
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I think ill buy this game anyway as i think the spectacle or cleaving an AT-ST in half is one that will take a good long time to get old.

meatloaf231
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Decoy Doctorpus:
No branching storylines! No CHOICES! But the movies were so interactive!

Don't you like not making decisions, Doctorpus?

PlasticPorter
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I SO CALLED IT. lol
i think i was having a debate with someone else on another forum page here
if i recall his position was that it would be the best game ever

thebobmaster
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I played the demo and got what I wanted out of it: explosions, force tossing guys into pits, and lightsaber ownage. This isn't a game that's meant to be deep or challenging. Think of it as a summer film: mindless, cheesy, has its problems, but is a hell of a way to kill some time.

hem dazon 90
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if you like star wars get it! the plot twists are just wow

Spartan Bannana
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I liked the demo, a shame the full game wasn't good.

Indigo_Dingo
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At least some good can come out of this. Yahtzee can now have a 3 week "absolutely shit game" streak, if he chooses his games right - linking Too Human, Infinite Undiscovery, and this.

Indigo_Dingo
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meatloaf231:

Decoy Doctorpus:
No branching storylines! No CHOICES! But the movies were so interactive!

Don't you like not making decisions, Doctorpus?

A MAN CHOOSES, A SLAVE OBEYS!

Had to be said. I always like the irony that a game that has one of the worst bases for a choice system also seems to tout the importance of it.

ThaBenMan
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I just played through the first real level (the TIE fighter factory) and I LOVE IT so far. Unfortunately, from what I've heard, the later levels are the worst ones, so it'll get worse as I go along. I'm glad I got it, though, just for the story alone. It's like another movie (a good one).

Decoy Doctorpus
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Indigo_Dingo:

meatloaf231:

Decoy Doctorpus:
No branching storylines! No CHOICES! But the movies were so interactive!

Don't you like not making decisions, Doctorpus?

A MAN CHOOSES, A SLAVE OBEYS!

Had to be said. I always like the irony that a game that has one of the worst bases for a choice system also seems to tout the importance of it.

I'm pretty sure one of the guys who said that ended up a thousand miles under the ocean up to his arse in genetically modified yuppies.

minoes
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According to the X-play review, the game is not properly finished.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrDHq_E3fyE

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