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Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 712 Joined: 2 Sep 2008     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1151 Joined: 7 Mar 2008   | ...An epic sort of Pokemon game might work, but you have to ask yourself a few questions. 1) How is it that Pokemon can do the things they do? 2) Why isn't there a police force to control certain things? 3) Why is it that there are only one of certain Pokemon in the world? 4) If there is only one, why isn't it illegal to catch and train it? 5) If some of these Pokemon are so awesomoely powerful, then why is it that they don't go on a rampage and destroy entire countries? 6) How big is Kanto, really? 7) Why don't wild Pokemon attack people? If they do, then how was the planet domesticated as well as it is? 8) How does a Pokeball work? How is it that you can make one out of an acorn shell? 9) If pokemon can do all these fantastic things, why can't people? 10) How would having extraordinarally powerful animals at your disposal change a general society? If you couldn't tell, I've thought about this. Not really a lot, either; I just notice plotholes within plotholes. Oh well. I stopped playing after crystal, so it's no biggie to me. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 382 Joined: 21 Jun 2008     |
I think logic jumped overboard when kids are using highly advanced matter converters designed only to catch these pocket creatures. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 797 Joined: 27 Aug 2008   | I always thought the nurse's in the Pokemon Centres were malicious hags. Upon leaving they'd say "We hope to see you again soon". To me, this is like going to hospital, getting surgery, then as you're ready to leave the doctors start telling you they hope you get injured again soon. Maybe they're in charge of the organised crime to keep their centres running. The other thing with the game is "THERE IS ALREADY A SAVE FILE, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO SAVE OVER IT?" ......... of course I do you stupid game, there's only one fooking save slot you dumb shit! But, every time you got to save your game it asks you again and again. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1080 Joined: 20 Jul 2008  | Has anyone here actually "Catched them all?" |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 98 Joined: 12 Jul 2008   | old games. not changed, EXCEPT made about 3 times faster. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 166 Joined: 20 Aug 2008  | A Pokemon MMO would be pretty sweet... |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 797 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 |
Yes, once on the on GB generation, once on the GBA gen and then again on the DS. It's not that difficult TBH, kids seem to see the number you need to catch and don't bother with it. I always said that the Pokemon games will interest the young 'uns for so much of the game and they'll eventually give up before doing everything. Also, I have friends with children and I've seen some of them try and play the Pokemon games with rather amusing results. Kids today just want "hammer this button" games, they don't want to think about ANYTHING. |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 1 Joined: 16 Sep 2008 | For my pokemon game, firstly it's a game made for casual hand held play, so I'd keep the current battle system. What I'd do is give you eventual access to every island they have made for pokemon, and a choice on which island you'd like to start on. Of course you'd have to complete a league before moving to the next island. From there I have a choice: force you into an Ash matrix where you start with new pokemon on each island and let you bring your big guys later or raise the overall level allowed, keeping in mind I want to put some decent multiplayer ability in there. I'd make a separate program for the nintendo console of the time, like the current ones, but if you plug in your hand held you can play it in 3D. And finally, I'd give you the ability to catch EVERY POKEMON! Thanks for reading. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2525 Joined: 3 Mar 2008   |
I wanna be...The very best. DUN DUN DUN! Ah, the memories. On Topic: Mystery Dungeon is the closest you'll ever get. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 454 Joined: 22 Aug 2008 |
I had this discussion with my friend not two days ago when we were link battling on Blue and Red. Considering the Gameboy games are usually not big enough (if there is any) to fit all the pokemoes there are now...Seriously how many are there? I remember back in Grade 6 when there was only 150. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 797 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 |
493 in total now. But they've got lazy and made alternate forms for a lot of them making it look like there's loads more than 500. I have no problem with them making new pokemon, just not pissing around giving Rotom 6 different forms in the style of different household appliances (platinum). |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1147 Joined: 7 Aug 2008   |
You can't really have RPGs without huge grinding elements. They go hand in hand, admittedly most people would like to severe the connection, RPGs would become shallow and either ridiculously easy or ridiculously hard. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1100 Joined: 21 May 2008    |
Yes me too, if they did it so it's the same as the handheld ones except there are no NPC battles, each trainer in the game is a person, that would be awesome.
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Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 797 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 |
Final Fantasy 12 tried to kill of the grind factor by letting you set up gambits and put your joypad down in the middle of mobs...........people still slated it for this. Guess no one's happy if you change something OR if you leave it alone. Pokemon is only grind if you're fighting the piss poorest things in the game anyway. If you're good and find the right things to fight, it's not so bad. Until you get to lvl 80 or so then it becomes slightly grindesque. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1100 Joined: 21 May 2008 |
That could be solved with a really high level area. |
Muckraker  Posts: 261 Joined: 24 Feb 2008  | An MMO |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 797 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 |
Which they have in Platinum! The Elite Four go up in level, as does your rival and a load of the gym leaders and co-op partners all gather in a cafe for battle purposes. As far as I've seen most of those I just mentioned all hang around the lvl 80 mark. :D |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1124 Joined: 17 Jun 2008   |
Didn't stop me from getting my Electrobuzz and Gyrados up to 100 in Pokemon Red when I was really little. My Electrobuzz was unstoppable in link battles! Also, I've always said that the original 150 > all of the others, but Swablu from the Sapphire game is so cute! |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2977 Joined: 13 Aug 2008 |
That is both awesome and terrifying at the same time. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 797 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 |
Me neither, I have several boxes full of Lvl 100s (between 50-60) migrated onto my DS. I had Red for my Gameboy, then I got Gold. That all got sold in my mid teens and then I got FireRed and Emerald for the GBA and Colosseum for my Gamecube (awesome for levelling to 100). Most recently I've obtained Pearl and Diamond and I've kept up with it. I'll admit it's not as good as it used to be, but the multiplayer is only still as good as the multiplayer friends you have. And they have that awesome replayability factor too. The original artist is back and forth and they have one or two other people designing Pokemon now. The newer guys just seem to make half assed mecha monsters most of the time. And mecha is the stuff that puts me off quite a bit! :( |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 817 Joined: 2 Jul 2008   |
I would agree with this idea...if you hadn't made a pun on both Pokemon and MMOs. I would rather have witnessed a Rick Roll there... PokeMMOn...*sigh*
I had a deep respect for you, Shivari...what happened to you? The Japanese got to you, didn't they? HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING YOU?! |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1124 Joined: 17 Jun 2008 |
It's clever and you know it!
Well since I'M(MO) new it's a pretty low salary but there's a lot of rooM(MO) to MMOve up... I mean, no one's paying me anything. Silly. |
Muckraker  Posts: 250 Joined: 29 May 2008 |
Have you actually played a pokemon game? They represent well balanced, challenging RPG games. As for the combat system, the depth and complexity of it is staggering. Visit to www.serebii.net to see what I mean. There is practically infinite scope for competitive battling, especially at the highest, professional levels. The fact is, the Pokemnon games are too hard for most kids, but are drawn to them because of the cartoon, and the colourful nature of the characters. The Pokemon series deserves an environment like that which the OP describes. People who dismiss the Pokemon series as 'just a kids game' are simply ignorant. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 712 Joined: 2 Sep 2008 |
How could you write the first sentence and then contradict it with the next? The sad fact is you can't battle with your favourites and win online unless your favourites are ubers or over used or the opponent agrees to limit themself. I don't think Pokemon is too hard for kids, the metagame you described isn't way the game's meant to be played. |
Beat Writer Posts: 179 Joined: 26 Feb 2008 | Hey, you said a system where you control the pokemon so no randome misses and yada yada yada. Wouldn't it seem better, with the impending relese of Tom Clancy's End War and a reliable voice system to make it voice commended like in the shows? I would get that, and be proud too. I would were a shirt saying "I have -pokemon game name- and LOVE IT" and some pikachu picture. Or make both games, Nintendo. I know your reading. Do it now or I'll, still buy the games, or I'll , um, not recommend the Wii as much! How 'bout that? |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 797 Joined: 27 Aug 2008 |
**agrees** Kids get drawn into getting the game and they play it for a bit, but soon go back to the TV series or one of their many films. Pokemon isn't "mash this button and only this button" enough for the kids today. |
Muckraker Posts: 250 Joined: 29 May 2008 |
Agreed, the point I attempted to make was that the single player RPG game is well balanced, and I honestly feel it is. I know the kids in my family asked for the Pokemon game for Christmas, then stuck to their Pokemon videos because they didnt want to sit through and comprehend all the text and complexities of your typical RPG game. And yes the metagame does run into the problems you describe, but you can solve them buy simply looking for games that don't use those pokemon, which is a common practice. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 912 Joined: 21 Feb 2008  |
Where on this great green Earth could I get one of those hats! |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 55 Joined: 14 Aug 2008 | Pokemon games will never be the same... |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 954 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 |
Sure it is. I battled the Elite Four by mashing A with occasional d-pad input. With Diamond it got even easier with the stylus; the battles do get really buttonmashy. Hell, I play Pokemon while reading. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 817 Joined: 2 Jul 2008 |
I'm going to need a holy relic from every obscure religion in the world, a copy of Hey You! Pikachu!, a deep body of water, and a vat of consecrated Hydrochloric Acid to undo these DAR(rrrr)K MAGICKx! Don't worry, Shivari, the Japanese Pun Demons shall not hound you for long! Meanwhile, just, play some Team Fortress 2. |
We all know Game Freak are reluctant to change anything about the Pokemon games, so I would suggest another monster catching game release from them that would be more like a Jrpg: it would have a good plot, bigger worlds and more player-npc interaction.
If they marketed it right there's no reason it couldn't be as big as Pokemon.