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Paperboy  Posts: 47 Joined: 25 Sep 2008     | |
Assistant Video Producer  Posts: 527 Joined: 19 Feb 2006     | No more so then Team Fortress 2, which is effectively none. I enjoy half-life and all, and I am certainly not going to mind a reference or two. I would be a little disappointed if the zombie horde all happened to be Gordon Freeman though. |
Paperboy Posts: 47 Joined: 25 Sep 2008 |
It might put a smile on my face, I dunno. |
Muckraker  Posts: 236 Joined: 4 Jun 2008   | I reckon any homages will be subtle nods at most. The squeal of a head crab; a circular saw blade embedded in a wall; a glimpse of the Lambda symbol. A cult hit awaits, methinks. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 762 Joined: 16 Jul 2008 | You have to bare in mind the only reason they linked their last major non-sequel game (Portal) in with the Half Life series is to give that universe a bit more depth. Left 4 Dead has no real similarities with the Half Life universe (as far as I can tell) so I don't see why it should be linked. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 94 Joined: 20 Mar 2008  |
The Portal stuff is going to be a pretty heavy sub-story in the Half-Life episode to come, methinks. SPOILER: What with the Borealis (an Aperture ship) disappearing an' all, along with part of the harbour. Almost as if it just fell into some kind of...portal... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1728 Joined: 7 Nov 2007    | two different universes (storyline wise) |
BANNED  Posts: 938 Joined: 14 May 2008   |
Like in the beginning of Half Life where Gordon Freeman accidentally opens up a billion and a half portals unleashing the alien army of xen and head crabs on the earth. User was banned for: A boss encounter one may never forget.... (Permanent) |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 367 Joined: 6 Feb 2008  | Counter Strike is the Half Life Universe too. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 367 Joined: 6 Feb 2008 | Double Post |
PROBATION  Posts: 2223 Joined: 12 May 2008    |
That's actually really plausible. User was put on probation for: Unskippable: Eternal Sonata. (7 days) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3250 Joined: 20 Dec 2007     | Yeah I'm with the group thinking that the most we'll get is a lambda symbol on the "Source" logo. |
Muckraker  Posts: 256 Joined: 21 Nov 2007  |
No it's not. It actually has nothing to do with it in any regard. Only thing in common, game wise, is it's use of the engine. But on topic, I'm sure there won't be any kind of link. These story universes have nothing to do with each other (as far as we know, of course). As some have speculated, maybe an homage or two hidden someplace as easter eggs, but nothing substantial or story/character-wise. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3203 Joined: 22 Aug 2008  | Wouldn't mind an easter egg/optional single player unlockable to turn all the zombies into headcrab zombies. That's be nice. Easter eggs are fun. |
Paperboy Posts: 47 Joined: 25 Sep 2008 |
I wasn't expecting anything like Gordon Freeman flying a chopper or anything, just subtle references. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 83 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
If that was true there would be no need for the one Freeman. You honestly think the combine would of stood a chance against an army of Counter Strike players? Counter Strike players are adrenaline fueled head shot junkies foaming at the mouth, and ready to fire at anything that moves ..... I should know I'm one of em'. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 563 Joined: 3 Sep 2008  |
You do know the original game was called Half-Life: Counter Strike don't you? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1367 Joined: 25 Feb 2008  |
That would be the shortest game ever. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 83 Joined: 8 May 2008 |
I think that's because it was a mod for the half life engine. I really can't see the link between the two. I think CS more closely resembles real life, they predicted the war on terror before the Neo Cons even thought of using it as an excuse to shoot people. |
Muckraker  Posts: 253 Joined: 23 Apr 2008 |
Aye, since the Half Life universe is so lacking depth. ;) Christ man, for a sci fi FPS, it's got one of the most convoluted mythologies there is. |
Muckraker Posts: 256 Joined: 21 Nov 2007 |
Too true. It's unfortunate that so many gamers can't see that. Even if you don't like a game like Half-Life or other games with deep narratives, like Bioshock, doesn't mean you can't appreciate the complexity or depth of it's story. Players come to expect the developer to spoon feed them key plot points through cut scenes or some other means. Most don't get the story of a game unless some character comes along and spells it out for them point by point. Frankly, I find that kind of narrative rather insulting. It's like the creators are saying the player is too stupid or unobservant to grasp what's going on. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 5122 Joined: 23 Dec 2007  |
You never know. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 83 Joined: 25 Aug 2008  | I think it is pretty likly they will throw in a couple subtle references but from my understanding the setting/story is too different to make any major references. However i would love it if you could change the settings so all the zombies are headcrab zombies, thats a great idea. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 735 Joined: 12 Apr 2008 |
Its easy to survive a horde of Gordon Freeman zombies, just make all the doors voice activated and shoot everything that doesn't speak. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1117 Joined: 28 Feb 2008    | I want the cat from Half-Life 2. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 568 Joined: 4 Sep 2008   | Seriously... what cat? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4097 Joined: 14 Jan 2008  | Perhaps a ruined billboard advertising Half Life. But anything that would affect gameplay, or destroy the fourth wall would be a no-go. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 657 Joined: 8 Jul 2008  |
Barney and Dr Kleiner from Half Life 2 make a lot of referances to a failed expieriment involving teleporting a Cat. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 137 Joined: 9 Aug 2008 |
Uh... I think he was quoting Alyx, mate :P |
Anonymous Source Posts: 3 Joined: 22 Nov 2008 | Interesting to revive this post to see what people have found. On some computer screens, there is a desktop shortcut to open Valve Anything else people have spotted? |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 831 Joined: 1 Nov 2007 |
I have that cat. His name is Mr Tiddywinkles. Say hi Mr Tiddywinkles *Theres a sound like a snake being strangled* Sweet little thing... |
Muckraker  Posts: 295 Joined: 13 Oct 2007  | I read some guessing pages. People are trying to put the left 4 dead levels in ravenholm. I thought that, with some modding, it could work |
Muckraker  Posts: 342 Joined: 17 Sep 2008 |
I'd like to see that. Espacially if they expand Ravenholm beyond what is shown in-game. As is, it's rather hard to defend yourself. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1840 Joined: 6 Sep 2008 | Actually I found a billboard in Act one, area 2, advertising "ORANGE BOX orange juice- now with 98% orange juice" if that counts. I thought it might be a little shoutout to the Orange Box. |
Muckraker  Posts: 259 Joined: 5 Oct 2008 |
I lol'd. |
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Just some speculation, but what references to the Half-Life series do you think will (or should) be in Left 4 Dead? Personally, I wouldn't mind a crowbar (I must confess I got the idea from a Left 4 Dead weapons thread).