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Paperboy  Posts: 24 Joined: 21 Sep 2008    | |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 839 Joined: 16 Aug 2008     | Convince me where the hell the glory is in a a war that claimed 70million lives. Also try glorifying war in front of my grandpa who is a holocaust survivor. As Yahtzee has said time and time again America is on about WW2 too much. Why couldn't they make another cod 4 style game that would of tottaly kicked massive ass. Cod4 is an excellent game that they could have improved apon and made an even better game after that. |
King of the Yetis  Posts: 1901 Joined: 15 Jul 2008   |
COD4 was just ww2 with modern guns. Which middle eastern country can go troop for troop with America? Where was the asymetrical warfare? Where was the peacekeeping missions? COD4 missed a chance to be something very important and instead took the safe route. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 108 Joined: 15 Apr 2008   | I sort of lost interest in the COD series after number 2, I don't know why, perhaps because it was all the same over and over again (but I don't know that since i didn't play nr3). I reclaimed my interest when COD4 came out, and I still occasionally play a multiplayer game or two. I think COD4 was great, and when it comes to COD5, well, if they can make a WW2 game that is not COD1 and 2 all over again, then kudos to them. I just don't want to dismiss it before I've played it, and then again, I think getting my hopes up about its' greatness might be a little dangerous. |
Muckraker  Posts: 280 Joined: 9 Jun 2008    | Activision is using COD:WAW to pay Infinity Ward the money they deserve to make COD6. COD5 will suck. WW2 is over, and does not need to be relived again, and again. There are plenty of modern arenas to fight in. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 988 Joined: 9 Jul 2008  |
What I find interesting is how you called the game COD: WAW and COD5 within two sentences. Unless you have access to some information no one else seems to, COD5 has not yet been announced. COD: WAW is that and simply that. If you insisted on counting every single COD game in the numerical sequence, we'd be up to around COD 7 or 8. Obviously we are not. COD: Finest Hour or COD: Big Red 1 just had subtitles, and no one calls them COD3 or 4. Why insist on trating WAW differently? That's right, there's no reason. So stop it. COD5 will eventually come out ( from IW, one can assume), and if you're going to call WAW COD5 then there will be two COD5s. And we don't want that, do we? |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 457 Joined: 18 Sep 2008   | I think it'll be slightly different, what with it being the pacific theater and all, but it'll still be crap by comparison to COD4. Why? One word that should be a curse or something: Treyarch. COD2 was an awesome breath of fresh air into the franchise, and I had (foolishly) high hopes for COD3...and they were dashed upon the rocks of disappointment. DASHED I tell you! Infinity Ward's move into modern warfare was a brilliant idea and it (Obviously) paid off. And now what? Now we jump back in time to WW2 all over again, led by the crap-tastic Treyarch. Hurrah. I love WW2 history as much as the next guy, but seriously...even I'm getting sick of WW2 shooters.
COD4 missed what chance? They chance to use a gaming platform as a political soap-box? It's a game, not a commentary on foreign policy. It's meant to be fun, not debated in some current world affairs class. |
Muckraker  Posts: 231 Joined: 5 Sep 2008  | being one that hasn't played CoD4 i cant sayu much about which game i like better. oh well the CoD people have done a great job at making games in WW2 timeline and i think it would be great if they continued doing so. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 148 Joined: 5 Jun 2008  |
Woa, you sure hate Treyarch, was COD3 really THAT bad? |
Beat Writer  Posts: 218 Joined: 11 Aug 2008  | I second baby tea. COD4 was what it needed to be: a good shooter. A lot of people decry the game for not being as "modern" or "real world" as they had hoped, but those people seem to be expecting their video game to turn into C-SPAN. It's a game, not an essay on foreign policy. |
Press Junketeer Posts: 457 Joined: 18 Sep 2008 |
Hurray! Someone else who thinks modern media can be simply entertaining without having some deep message about the state of the youth/the country/the government/society/the world!
You think time could make a better game...but then you look at games like Daikatana (If anyone else remembers that one) or even Spore and see that...time doesn't always help. And yes, COD3 was bad. ...And yes I hate Treyarch. Ruin a great shoot franchise will you?! AUGH! TEA SMASH! ...I'm sorry, I just had a bunch of coke and peanut butter cups...I'm a tad wired. |
BANNED Posts: 80 Joined: 18 Aug 2006  |
the asymetrical warfare and the peacekeeping missions were all over the game, dude.CoD4 is NOT like WW2 because its not nation against nation-its 'the good' vs. 'the terrorists'.Its marines, sas and speznas fighting together against a local warlord/dictator and not The us, gb and russia fighting a war against Iran/Syria/Irak User was banned for: Poll: Prostitution. (3 days) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1169 Joined: 26 Mar 2008 | Yeah, COD3 was one of the worst games i've ever played. At least the worst FPS i've ever played. I don't have high hopes for COD:WAW, just have to see how the reviews go. |
Anonymous Source Posts: 4 Joined: 1 Oct 2008 | Im a fan of the CoD series BUT after CoD 2 (PC CoD2) I seriously lost interest in the game as i found it totally pants and a huge let down after CoD:UO, in every way apart from the graphics. Also im hopeing they make the game a bit farer for the PC games ou there just with bigger maps ect. |
Muckraker Posts: 237 Joined: 21 Nov 2007 | CoD needs to take Battlefield's route and get out of WWII and stay out. BF1942 was great, the expansions were great, but BF2 was better and BF2142 was pretty good (I wouldn't say it was as good as BF2). I never played Bad Company but I watched my brother play it and it looked great plus it broke new ground for the series by introducing a destructible environment. That's why Battlefield is such a great series, it started with a good game and has continued to build upon it's original success by bringing new and different things to the table with each release. Call of Duty, on the other hand, stagnated between the original and CoD4 and and I doubt it will come out with another gem for it's next game. Sure, they added vehicles, but I really don't think they helped enhance the game at all and I was glad that CoD4 went back to infantry combat. |
Gone Gonzo Posts: 1169 Joined: 26 Mar 2008 | I'm a huge fan of WW2 shooters but its a shame very few have actually been any good, the first Call of Duty and COD:UO expansion packs were the best of the whole series. COD2 was a let down after the original, COD3 was a crime on humanity (you can see why it never went on PC). COD4 was an inprovement on the series but suffered the same problems from the COD2 and the multiplayer got old with all its gimmicky bullshit. COD and COD:UO had the strongest MP. |
Paperboy Posts: 24 Joined: 21 Sep 2008 | Wow. you all say that COD3 was a bad game. I think that I should play the game so I can have a opinion on the matter. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 827 Joined: 9 Aug 2008  |
Infinity Ward said that they are working on COD6. World at War is COD5. Deal with it. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 988 Joined: 9 Jul 2008 |
Well first of all, pics (or links) or it didn't happen. Second of all, I'm wondering if I should kill myself or you for saying that. Do you see the number 5 anywhere in the title? No. Can you think of any other COD game, hell any other game, that did not have a number in the title but was still counted in the numerical sequence of the series, and that number was skipped as if it was used? Don't bother thinking, I'll be nice and give you the answer: no. I'm leaning towards killing myself just because I don't want to go hunt you down, but then again you did piss me off... I'll see what I can do. Though if I have to pay someone to find and kill you, I'll charge you the expenses. |
Beat Writer Posts: 140 Joined: 4 Jul 2008 | I did this very intersiting experiment on a hardcore COD4 server on the PC. and for this experment i would ask people ever 2 or 3 hours if they were gonna get COD:WAW and i came up with a rough estiment that every 1 out of 20 gamers on this " Hard Core Server" were getting COD:WAW. Witch surprised me immensly. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2863 Joined: 10 Mar 2008  | I'm going to give Treyarch the benifit of the doubt and actually give them a god damn chance, god damnit! God Damnit! God. Freakin'. Damnit!! Who knows? It could be good despite all you doubters, granted i've never played a Treyarch game before, but it's still unreasonable to just assume it will be crap. I mean, people liked Uwe Boll's Postal movie didn't they? |
Muckraker  Posts: 348 Joined: 6 Feb 2008  |
Glory of war is something that you have to look somewhere other then the kill count to find. Its the ideal of 4000 plains indians rising up against the U.S. Its the ideal of the 13 days of glory at the Alamo. Its the ideal of people fighting for what they believe, if you can't understand or appreciate that, then good sir I pity you. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 827 Joined: 9 Aug 2008 |
Silly bunny, wanting to kill people over title numbers on video games. I like you. Tee-hee. Seriously Guts, you're a bit late to the party. It's common knowledge that WaW is the fifth installment in the series excluding spin-offs such as Finest Hour and Big Red One. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 988 Joined: 9 Jul 2008 | Well first of all the article only said, "...formerly known as Call of Duty 5...", which proves nothing. Unless I missed something. Second of all, I guess we'll see when they announce the COD game after WAW, won't we? |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 827 Joined: 9 Aug 2008 |
Oh, and here's a link confirming that Infinity Ward is making COD6. By the way, your sniper missed. |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 988 Joined: 9 Jul 2008 | Alright, I'll admit you may have a point. I just find it odd that the game would be the same thing as COD 5 when there isn't even a 5 in the title. And that they would go on to COD6 without having a game called COD5. Odd. I still think there's a chance I'm right, though. As I said, we'll see. And screw the sniper, did you kill him? Please do if you can, or else I'm sending you the bill. Or I could just have him killed, but then I'd send you the bill for that. |
Paperboy Posts: 24 Joined: 21 Sep 2008 |
I thought people would debate about a number of things, but the number 5 was not one of them. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 197 Joined: 21 May 2008 | Decoy Doctorpus I love the point you made by the way. Hope you don't mind if I combine the two posts I made in the last half an hour on the subject of WWII games. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I thought I should make another post actually concerning the game. I think the Berlin parts look a bit strange, the German soldiers I've seen in pictures and videos aren't exactly how I'd invision the defenders of Berlin. They look a bit too stereotypical Nazi soldier from what I've seen, whereas realistically they'd be a mish-mash of SS, Volkssturm, Hitler Youth... etc. I just hope if there is the fight for the Reichstag, it's better than in CoD1. Onto the Pacific parts I've seen, it seems overly action-packed. Of course you need action, but if you read about it or even watch films like Letters from Iwo Jima or Thin Red Line the US soldiers had to spend many hours rooting out the Japanese from where they'd dug themselves in. So at the moment it still doesn't appear to be anywhere in the realms of the step-forward for WWII FPS I keep hoping for. BiA:HH is about the most different looking WWII FPS this year, unless there's any gems I haven't heard about yet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There's definitely good and interesting WWII games still being made every year (most of them strategy games mind you), the thing is by now these games are only really appealing to WWII enthusiasts who will already be adept at recognising a diamond in the rough. I think one of the biggest things that makes most of the big WWII shooters from being indistinguishable now is that the thrill of the game mostly derives from the slaying of enemies, rather than the experience. Few games manage to deliver the grittiness and atmosphere so praised in war films of the past few decades. As an example a shooter where you play the Germans during the campaign, at least in part, would no doubt be a much more unique experience. Especially because any developer wanting to make a game like that would surely be trying to cater for those who want something different within the genre. An FPS would definitely be the best medium for the hard-hitting WWII game I dream of, strategy is by definition the focus on the military aspects of the events it portrays. I'll always have something to say on WWII games. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2913 Joined: 21 Jan 2008    |
It would be a fantastic thing to play as the Germans, to see how the fight was on the other side of the battle. Unfortunately, with the current stereotype of gaming as it is, the developer of such a game would be decried as a Neo-Nazi, and the game would automatically be given an AO rating (R18+ and the like), meaning practically no-one could buy it. When gaming is accepted a medium to express more than "hur hur, i iz having funz!!!!11one1!", perhaps some developer will have the gall to release such a game, but until then, I suppose we're just going to have to relive Normandy, again and again. As for Call of Duty: World at War, I'm staying away from it, for the time being. I have other games that I would rather get (like Brothers In Arms),and thus, my budget is stretched already. Plus, it just doesn't interest me; I don't see any aspect of the game that screams "Get me now!", kinda like what Modern Warfare had. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 200 Joined: 8 Jul 2008 | If this is the last COD game to be in WWII 'cause it's the only one that features the Pacific War Theater then I'm fine with it. As long as COD5 is set back in modern times. EDIT: I just looked it up and COD:WAW is COD5 'cause they're in development on COD6 already, or at least pre-development or whatever it's called. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 128 Joined: 25 Apr 2008 | |
Set in the pacific, Call of Duty: world at war is based on the call of duty 4 engine,so it will probably be as good or better looking than cod 4. It is set to ether break new ground, or piss everybody off. If you want to debate the developer or the (yet again) setting in WW 2, this is a good place to do so.