MrBrightside919:

Eldritch Warlord:
So you're saying Halo 2&3 have worse weapon balance than Halo: CE?

I ... um, how?

And Halo 2 has the best story of the series, maybe you don't like it but it's miles better than Battlefield Earth.

My disappointing sequel is (I have to think about this, game sequels are almost always improvements) 007: From Russia With Love

Have you gone absolutely bat s!#t crazy? Halo 2 is the weakest link in the trilogy of Halo games. The story was ridiculous, it seemed like they were trying so hard to be funny at points. Playing as the arbiter wasn't what anyone wanted and you had to play has him for most of the game. Who thought it was a good idea to have the covenant start talking? What was worse was that they ended the game ON A F%^KING CLIFFHANGER!

Sure, Halo 2 has a better story than Battlefield Earth, but that is like comparing two Uwe boll movies to each other. "Well Bloodrayne was horrible, but at least it wasn't as bad as Alone in the Dark..."

You must have very low standards for game stories...

I probably went a little too far by comparing Halo 2's storyline to Battlefield Earth's but Halo 2's storyline was almost as bad as Battlefield Earth.

I was most dissapointed with Twighlight Princess. Where have all the sidequests gone. The story, although the most complex, was not the best. For me that award must go to Majoras Mask, my single favourite Zelda game (with Ocarina and Wind Waker coming in joint second). Who can resist a story about a kid possessed by a mask who wants to crush the Earth with a Moon that has a face on it. And for anyone whos not played the game, yes it is as rediculous as that sounds.

Half life Episode 1 I loved the game, but it was way to short for my liking and right as I was getting in to it, it ends. Then I had to wait another year or so for Episode 2 to arrive, but at least it came bearing Portal and TF2.

Crunchy English:
Are predictions allowed then?
Because EA owns Bioware now. That means we are going to go from the grandest, most important RPG ever, Mass Effect to... what? We MIGHT get a Mass Effect 2, and if we do it'll be all cut down to nothing and you'll be able to wear power armour and pump yourself up with "Nectar". We're lucky they released Mass Effect at all, but that game was finished right before EA did it's thing.

Other than my doomsaying, I guess I'll go with Perfect Dark Zero, or whatever. The original Perfect Dark was some kind of joy machine that ran on love.

It's 360 sequel was a brick. You could hold it, it definitely existed, but the only way it could be exciting is if someone hit you in the face with it.

Perfect Dark wasn necessarily a sequel it was a prequel, but yeah I totally agree with you that it's crap compared to the original like Deus Ex Invisible War. Perfect Dark Zero was okay but lacked all the cool weapons and levels of the original, it certainly wasn't deserving of a 9.0 that Greg Kasavin {one of my favorite game critics} from GameSpot scored it.

For me it was god of war 2 just beacause it took everything i liked bout the original and then tried to do too much with it. It was like they crammed in QTEs everywhere and made the previously brilliant combat into a chore. The story was so blatantly obvious i could have written a synopsis within the first 20 minutes of the game.

Then shadow of the colossus. Not really a sequel but dissapointing in terms of depth.
and halo 2 because the weapons were lame, and the levels uninspiring.

Devil May Cry 2. It's so dull, it might as well be a blank screen for half an hour.

At least the sequels had moments where you could go 'that's physically impossible! Dante is being a douche again! This boss is an annoying old man! The romatic slushy scenes are over, and now it's back to murdering a giant statue! This game is one of the best things I've ever played!' Interpret that as compliment or insult as you will.

FFx-2 that was horrible. Stupid girly dress up game with a plot so boring i couldn't be arsed to keep up.

Dmc2 was a highlight for me, just 'cause I could do that one. I freely admit to being rubbish at the first one.

Deus Ex Invisible War, for reasons already said.

Call of Duty 2 was a real let down for me, after how fucking amazing COD and COD:UO was it was a real kick in the balls and was very dumbed down because it was also on the xbox360. They gave it the bloody health system from the Halo series and after the great MP on COD:UO they gave us a really boring MP that was clearly designed purely for the xbox360 version and just ported over because of the tiny maps (lower player count on 360).

Then COD 3 was a even worse, a complete pile of shit. It was so bad it never got ported to PC.

Things improved with COD4, but the MP was still pretty iffy.

Ten-2

Ugh, i've put the bad taste back in my mouth with that one...

Devil May Cry 2: I'm all for the series not being totally controller-wrecking hard, but c'mon, don't spoon feed us here.

GTA San Andreas: Before the flaming starts, it's a good game. The problem I had with it is that Rockstar tried to cram way too much into the game. An entire state? Stat-building for just about every character feature through repetition? Just because you CAN add a bunch of new features doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask: After the gaming nirvana that was Ocarina of Time, this is the next step? A damn time limit on a game that encourages exploration of a massive world? Stuck as kid Link the whole time? Again, not a bad game, but one hell of a disappointment.

Legend of Zelda Windwaker: Repetitive and boring sailing. Nuff said.

MrBrightside919:

Eldritch Warlord:
So you're saying Halo 2&3 have worse weapon balance than Halo: CE?

I ... um, how?

And Halo 2 has the best story of the series, maybe you don't like it but it's miles better than Battlefield Earth.

My disappointing sequel is (I have to think about this, game sequels are almost always improvements) 007: From Russia With Love

Have you gone absolutely bat s!#t crazy? Halo 2 is the weakest link in the trilogy of Halo games. The story was ridiculous, it seemed like they were trying so hard to be funny at points. Playing as the arbiter wasn't what anyone wanted and you had to play has him for most of the game. Who thought it was a good idea to have the covenant start talking? What was worse was that they ended the game ON A F%^KING CLIFFHANGER!

Sure, Halo 2 has a better story than Battlefield Earth, but that is like comparing two Uwe boll movies to each other. "Well Bloodrayne was horrible, but at least it wasn't as bad as Alone in the Dark..."

You must have very low standards for game stories...

I could say alot to that, but instead I'll only point out the most obvious falacy. How does claiming a particular game has the best story of it's series indicate that I have low standards for stories in general?

Crunchy English:
Are predictions allowed then?
Because EA owns Bioware now. That means we are going to go from the grandest, most important RPG ever, Mass Effect to... what? We MIGHT get a Mass Effect 2, and if we do it'll be all cut down to nothing and you'll be able to wear power armour and pump yourself up with "Nectar". We're lucky they released Mass Effect at all, but that game was finished right before EA did it's thing.

Other than my doomsaying, I guess I'll go with Perfect Dark Zero, or whatever. The original Perfect Dark was some kind of joy machine that ran on love.

It's 360 sequel was a brick. You could hold it, it definitely existed, but the only way it could be exciting is if someone hit you in the face with it.

Nyeh, Mass Effect was over-hyped anyway. Kind of a dodgy game.

Radelaide:

Crunchy English:
Are predictions allowed then?
Because EA owns Bioware now. That means we are going to go from the grandest, most important RPG ever, Mass Effect to... what? We MIGHT get a Mass Effect 2, and if we do it'll be all cut down to nothing and you'll be able to wear power armour and pump yourself up with "Nectar". We're lucky they released Mass Effect at all, but that game was finished right before EA did it's thing.

Other than my doomsaying, I guess I'll go with Perfect Dark Zero, or whatever. The original Perfect Dark was some kind of joy machine that ran on love.

It's 360 sequel was a brick. You could hold it, it definitely existed, but the only way it could be exciting is if someone hit you in the face with it.

Nyeh, Mass Effect was over-hyped anyway. Kind of a dodgy game.

Mass Effect is good but it's not one of BioWare's best games {at leasts it's better than Jade Empire}. I guess any BioWare game published by Microsoft is bound to be rushed and unpolished almost as a EA title. The storyline and the dialogue system were great though.

Oni 2: it got canceled before it was announced THAT is how disapointing it was

Anomynous 167:
Oni 2: it got canceled before it was announced THAT is how disapointing it was

I thought it was cancelled because Bungie North shut down.

Breakdown 2, because it never happened.
Condemned 2: Bloodshot, because it tried to hard to be scary
Soul Calibur 4, because they a) got rid of the awesome single player campaign-type modes in favor of Tower of Souls, and b) the character creator may have allowed more detail, but you could only make clones of the story characters.
Ninja Gaiden II, was nowhere near as challenging or open-ended as the original
Perfect Dark Zero, was nowhere near as good as the original was for its time
I could go on, but I'm sure people are getting bored.

sneakypenguin:
Splintercell pandora tomorrow, that game was awful compared to the original and chaos theory.

I still hold up Chaos Theory as the best original Xbox game out. PT wasn't that bad, it just wasn't as good as the other two (I refuse to acknowledge Double Agent as part of the series).

TOGSolid:

Crunchy English:
That means we are going to go from the grandest, most important RPG ever, Mass Effect

No no no no no no. So wrong on so many levels. Mass Effect is watered down drivel built for the console generation. The Baldur's Gate series absolutely annhilates Mass Effect in sheer scope of story, character development, party interaction, and gameplay.
It takes a lot to get me to nerdrage, but god damnit people claiming Mass Effect is something grand instantly pushes me right over the edge.

*Hits with rolled up newspaper* wrong, wrong, wrong (futurama reference!!!). ME was fuckin' epic, true, it might have been a bit watered down, but it was a shooter RPG, not a "pure" RPG. As such, it couldn't really rely on "Dice rolls" like other RPG's like KotOR, so to a RPG-purist, it'll seem uncomfortable, but to everyone else, it was great.

I'm with the previous posters who mentioned Doom 3, It was a valiant effort but ultimately came off losing everything that makes me play Doom every weekday at school whenever I have a free minute.

Also I'm very disappointed in the Mega man "Starforce" spin-offs of battle-network, I will say that battle network got very old and crotchety after a few games, but starforce is just a terrible imitation with the camera put behind the shoulder and all the worlds personality and cute references sucked out, and replaced with whole continents based around a terrible pun. "The Continent of Wazzup", The Continent of "Loch Mess"

Lame Utterly Lame.

Crunchy English:
Are predictions allowed then?
Because EA owns Bioware now. That means we are going to go from the grandest, most important RPG ever, Mass Effect to... what? We MIGHT get a Mass Effect 2, and if we do it'll be all cut down to nothing and you'll be able to wear power armour and pump yourself up with "Nectar". We're lucky they released Mass Effect at all, but that game was finished right before EA did it's thing.

Other than my doomsaying, I guess I'll go with Perfect Dark Zero, or whatever. The original Perfect Dark was some kind of joy machine that ran on love.

It's 360 sequel was a brick. You could hold it, it definitely existed, but the only way it could be exciting is if someone hit you in the face with it.

Your my hero, I echo your thoughts on Perfect Dark completely, they even managed to make Miss Dark look like a skank.

The biggest epic fail of a sequel ever is we (heart) katamari. It took an hour to beat. There was about five freaking levels total. The addicting gameplay was even killed sort of. This was not in any sense of the word good.... I really, Really wish I had my fifty bucks back from this utter dissapointment!

Eldritch Warlord:

Anomynous 167:
Oni 2: it got canceled before it was announced THAT is how disappointing it was

I thought it was cancelled because Bungie North shut down.

No it was cancelled because it went through development hell with Take Two Games. Do your research before you post sheesh. Bungie North never even TRIED to WORK on A sequel for Oni before they shut downed...

Still trying to look for the article that proves my statement. (Something of the lines of 45 games that you wouldn't of known about unless you worked on them.)

sneakypenguin:
Splintercell pandora tomorrow, that game was awful compared to the original and chaos theory.

Lol, how was that game any different to the first and third?
I replayed the first over the holidays then went out and bought the 2nd and 3rd. They are similar and great games.
What didn't you like about it?

orannis62:

sneakypenguin:
Splintercell pandora tomorrow, that game was awful compared to the original and chaos theory.

I still hold up Chaos Theory as the best original Xbox game out. PT wasn't that bad, it just wasn't as good as the other two (I refuse to acknowledge Double Agent as part of the series).

TOGSolid:

Crunchy English:
That means we are going to go from the grandest, most important RPG ever, Mass Effect

No no no no no no. So wrong on so many levels. Mass Effect is watered down drivel built for the console generation. The Baldur's Gate series absolutely annhilates Mass Effect in sheer scope of story, character development, party interaction, and gameplay.
It takes a lot to get me to nerdrage, but god damnit people claiming Mass Effect is something grand instantly pushes me right over the edge.

*Hits with rolled up newspaper* wrong, wrong, wrong (futurama reference!!!). ME was fuckin' epic, true, it might have been a bit watered down, but it was a shooter RPG, not a "pure" RPG. As such, it couldn't really rely on "Dice rolls" like other RPG's like KotOR, so to a RPG-purist, it'll seem uncomfortable, but to everyone else, it was great.

Ah, but my complaints about ME have nothing to do with the combat system (indeed, shooter RPGs can be quite enjoyable. Deus Ex anyone?). The shotgun made me happy in my pants, so that was definitely not to blame. :D

My complaints about ME have to do with basically everything else. Theoretically combat is part of gameplay, and I probably should have made a point of excluding the parts where you shoot things (emphasis on the word you here). However, as far as overall combat is concerned I do have issues with the terrible squad AI that seems to have a preoccupation with shooting at the walls more than the enemy (among other complaints on my mile long list).

Looks like my first user review with The Escapist will have to be Mass Effect and then I can debate people about it there.

Splinter Cell: Double Agent. It was terrible. Half the levels were the same damn hideout, and all you really did was walk around with painful slowness and collect random files. Also, the stealth mechanics had been streamlined- which is to say, stripped-out and gutted. Instead of the increments on your sound and light meters to work with, you had three lights: red, yellow, green. Multiplayer was also stripped-out and gutted: all the cool gadgets and abilities from Chaos Theory were gone. The coop campaign, such an achievement in CT, was missing entirely.

Halo 2 and 3 were disappointments, and saying so makes me unpopular at times. But I will say this: The Arbiter was the one thing Halo 2 got right and it was fucking great. The Arbiter was a great character who played a great foil to MC's emotionless badass. He was ashamed, conflicted, fighting for redemption; confused, betrayed, and zealous. The religious warrior angle was exactly what the series needed and I lamented his downsizing in Halo 3. I know I'm not making any friends, but I believe strongly in the Arbiter. Besides that, H2 was a major let down. H3 was good, but it was no Combat Evolved.

orannis62:
*Hits with rolled up newspaper* wrong, wrong, wrong (futurama reference!!!). ME was fuckin' epic, true, it might have been a bit watered down, but it was a shooter RPG, not a "pure" RPG. As such, it couldn't really rely on "Dice rolls" like other RPG's like KotOR, so to a RPG-purist, it'll seem uncomfortable, but to everyone else, it was great.

I liked Mass Effect, but gameplay-wise, it had the depth of a particularly shallow spoon.

Rooster Cogburn:

Halo 2 and 3 were disappointments, and saying so makes me unpopular at times. But I will say this: The Arbiter was the one thing Halo 2 got right and it was fucking great. The Arbiter was a great character who played a great foil to MC's emotionless badass. He was ashamed, conflicted, fighting for redemption; confused, betrayed, and zealous. The religious warrior angle was exactly what the series needed and I lamented his downsizing in Halo 3. I know I'm not making any friends, but I believe strongly in the Arbiter. .

Agreed the Arbiter WAS awsome but masterchief fan boys/girls/hermaphrodites hated the idea of playing as a different charecter.

Twisted Metal 3

Thank you for reminding me. That was such a bad game comapred to TM2, looks is all it had going for it. TM4 somewhat revived the fanchise for me, the option for custom (very limited) was cool though. but the entire franchise still sports a massive scar TM3 left on me, I haven't played TMB, and TM: Head on just seems like a TM2 remake.

another bad sequel for me was Parasite Eve 2

I loved the first game, and then THIS came along. it seemed to turn away frm the RPG style it once had and turned into a mute Resident Evil...but with a point system EW!

And let the flaming commence : GTA 4

I am more partial to the stories, gameplay, and complete overall experience from Vice City and San Andreas than I was with GTA 4. I liked the cartoonish graphics and feel, the way the vehicles handled. The driving in GTA 4, I feel like I'm playing Gran Turismo. The only saving grace that GTA 4 had for me was multiplayer, and it's really just not enough to save it for me.

Age of Empires III. What an almighty screw-up
WoW: TBC
Halo 2 & 3
Ground Control 2
Civ IV (great game but i think CIV III was -that- good)
Almost any RTS that made the jump from 2D to 3D except for war3 and... and... Well, and also age of mythology if that counts as an age 2 sequal - that's still, to me, the best 3D RTS of all time.

Kukul:

AuntyEthel:

Duke Machine:

KineticX49:
KOTOR2.
KOTOR was the best RPG I'd ever played at the time. Ofcourse, now Bioware have released more RPG's, hoorah!

It was massively immersive and I just loved it. KOTOR2 however was an abomination to it's name and should be taken out back and shot in the kneecaps.

I blame it on the fact that it wasn't made by the same company, how could another company possibly hope to make a convincing sequel to a game that isn't theirs?

I agree

Its weird. I'd never played KOTOR 1, but got hold of KOTOR 2. I really enjoyed it, as did all my friends who borrowed it (none of them played KOTOR1 either). Is it really that pants compared to the first?

As for bad sequels, I'd say Super Mario 2 on NES was absolute crap. Thankfully 3 sorted it all out.

whats wrong with you people? kotor2 was just kotor with more force powers, a few more complex mechanics (i LOVED the influence system) and extended lightsabre customisation.
whats there not to like? ok the ending was a bit retarded and the beginning was a bit hard to get trough without falling asleep but its still an excellent game. its not like theyve change anything important about it.

the sequel i was most dissapointed in was max payne 2. theyve stripped it of all the magic and atmosphere. it was unbearable. and now mark fucking whalberg plays max payne. theyve defiled my precious memories so bad, only nuking my grandma's house can compare to it.

Oi! Why you quote meee? I agree with you on the point...

I thought San Andreas was shitty compared to Vice City. The colours, Italians, 80's-ness and overall city design were miles better in VC. I hated the gangsta-ness of SA (as hip-hop irritates me in the first place), and the side bits like working out were super unnecessary.

bluerahjah:
And let the flaming commence : GTA 4

I am more partial to the stories, gameplay, and complete overall experience from Vice City and San Andreas than I was with GTA 4. I liked the cartoonish graphics and feel, the way the vehicles handled. The driving in GTA 4, I feel like I'm playing Gran Turismo. The only saving grace that GTA 4 had for me was multiplayer, and it's really just not enough to save it for me.

Much agreed, except that even multiplayer didn't have a saving grace for that game with me :P.

What i would consider a good game, but parts of it just went too far....Tekken 5. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Tekken 5, I still play it with my friends every weekend. But the story mode has just gone too far with this 'Devil Gene' business. Also, canon-wise, I think Jin Kazama wins right? Why can't someone NOT from the Mishima bloodline win for a chance? Paul Pheonix came close in Tekken 3 by getting all the way and beating Ogre but unwittingly skipped out on True Ogre, making Jin the winner.
Anyways, the game's story needs to take a different turn and try to shine somewhere else that isn't so focused on how anybody related to the Mishima's (father, son, oblivious to the sister etc.) all fucking hate each other.