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Paperboy  Posts: 40 Joined: 3 Oct 2008     | |
Muckraker Posts: 237 Joined: 21 Nov 2007   | Take it as a compliment. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 4316 Joined: 23 Dec 2007     | What happens happens, regardless if it's skill or cheating, and some people stand for the resolutions of others as opposed to reason. What can you do.
I know I would. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 989 Joined: 9 Jul 2008  | I doubt they really thought you were cheating, they were just intimidated/afraid of you. As the guy above me said, it's a complement. And if they did think you were cheating based only on you doing really good, they're dumbasses and not worth competing against anyway. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 59 Joined: 26 Sep 2008  | This is a case of the outspoken minority coming-off as the majority. Good admins are good admins because you barely even remember that they're admins. It's the assholes you always notice and assume are the majority because they'll make it a point to remind everyone that they're an admin, and boot anyone who frustrates them for "hacking". |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 384 Joined: 10 Apr 2008   | Hey i should start a thread and brag about how great i am and how im sooo good i get banned.... yeah i bet everyone wants to talk about that. Dude just play on another server. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 200 Joined: 8 Jul 2008   | I got booted from a CTF game on Halo PC 'cause I was using my teams tank to protect the flag instead of driving 5 mph towards the enemy base knowing it was invitable that I'd get naded or rocketed. Is it wrong to use a tank to protect the flag or was that guy just a dick? |
Beat Writer Posts: 138 Joined: 3 Jul 2008 | Many Admins are just regular joes, and sometimes they screw up by swinging the banhammer prematurely. Try servers that have forums with ban/lift request boards, so that you have a recourse for getting other admins aware of you, if you're polite and concise you'll probably be playing again in no time. Maybe host a nice little video clip of your screen somewhere to refer people to if they think you're suspect. |
Paperboy  Posts: 12 Joined: 25 Sep 2008 |
Parking right on it, maybe...I dunno. If you were just lying in wait or patrolling, definatly not. |
Beat Writer Posts: 200 Joined: 8 Jul 2008 |
I didn't sit right on top of it, but after I got killed one of my team mates parked in on the flag and left it there. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 175 Joined: 5 May 2008 | Well not blaming the admins just the players...Few nights ago on Halo 3 (of which I suck) with two of my friends multi-screening, my friends were decimating the other team even while I put my controller down to go for a piss, I came back and they were kicked as they were winning 43 to 8 and they only killed me, so I lost out as did my friends just because somepeople are sore losers |
Muckraker  Posts: 271 Joined: 4 Sep 2008 | If you're that good you should look at competing professionally. |
Paperboy  Posts: 42 Joined: 11 Jan 2008 | Well I could advertise the eGO servers here (Mods if you wish me not to simply edit this first paragraph out, but it is a valid solution to his problem), we require either blatantly obvious hacking or a recorded video of the event to be reviewed by the higher-ups before banning someone. 7 TF2 Servers, 4 CS:S Servers, 7ish DoD servers at the moment. :D I got hit a couple times in CS:S for suspected hacking when I play on other servers (run through a line of people with a TMP, throwing up tons of headshots), luckily I'm an engie/medic in TF2 so I don't think it's possible to be suspected for hacking there. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 161 Joined: 6 Sep 2008 | Maybe, they figure you're so good at the game, and love pwning noobs so much that you don't actually get any satisfaction out of playing, the only joy you get comes from winning, and to prevent you from doing so they kick you off, to let the other players have a good time. |
Muckraker  Posts: 283 Joined: 17 May 2007 | I recently found out some of my friends do use aimbots (and pay for them! What a waste of money!) and find it hilarious to kill everyone while insisting to anyone who complains that they're not cheating. There are griefers out there, and they need to be booted. Occasionally the admins get it wrong. Even so, if you're that much better than everyone else, maybe you shouldn't keep playing on that server anyway, since you're obviously ruining a lot of people's fun. By the way, the OP is really annoying. If every word of it is true, it should be fair enough, but it's not. Especially the title of the thread - way more antagonistic than it needs to be. Cool the hubris, ok? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1406 Joined: 6 Sep 2008 |
Your turret has an aimbot! The rockets are clearly all headshots! I've been accused of maphacking a few times in DOTA, it's just ingrained instincts that kick in that you cant really consciously control- you see a blip on your radar for a second and pull back, or get a nasty feeling, and you escape a gank. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 389 Joined: 15 Jul 2008  | The best banned from a server story ever involves my buddies who played Fistful of Frags. I really didn't believe them until I read the FoF forum posts and promptly went cross-eyed in disbelief. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 515 Joined: 16 Jul 2008  | Find the Speacial Attack (or [SPA]) servers (assuming you are talking PC here). They always hear both sides of the argument and usually kick the assholes. |
Paperboy Posts: 20 Joined: 6 Dec 2007 | something similar to that happened to me recently as well, i was accused of using a aim bot in a different game by some (im guessing) 10 year old kid, when he started swearing at me over the headset i may have told him to "lodge a complaint when his balls drooped and was old enough to lodge a report". Anyway his mum lodged a report for him and i was band for abuse... sometimes its just not worth public servers, find one you like, stay there, even if its full, just w8 for a spot. |
Paperboy  Posts: 11 Joined: 6 Oct 2008 | The thing is, EVERYONE knows about hacks - so when they see someone do a strange shot (which could have been pure luck or skill) the immediate reaction by that player is "hacks" - They then flame, more people then start to flame, admins ban you. Oh and if you tend to get banned for nothing, most admins on Counter-Strike and TF2 these days are no older than 15 and have a God-Complex. |
Paperboy Posts: 40 Joined: 3 Oct 2008 |
Ok I can do that :P I apologise I was just frustrated. I'm also new here :P so it will take a while for the... loose rules I guess? To settle in :). Originally a long time ago I did take this is a complement, but it's stops being a complement and ends up really frustrating when all you're trying to do is have fun. I'm not saying I'm the only person this has happened too, I bet I am one among hundreds or even thousands (In CSS I mean, this is the first time I have ever seen a ban in TF2 without there actually being a hack invlolved) and I bet with most of the other players this happens too at first, they take it as a complement but that quickly turns into a repetitive annoyance. I am definitely thinking of checking the servers suggested here though assuming I have a decent ping on them :) thanks for the opinions everyone.
Had to reply to this also. It is bragging in a sense but that's not the issue at hand. I am far from the best. I envy Snipers like Jh and BloodShire, and I bet if admins didn't know who they were they would get banned far more than I. It's an issue with anyone who even has a good day on a game like we all do, I believe. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 373 Joined: 20 Jul 2008  | Well going from CSS to TF2, I KNOW that you are considered a God as a sniper in TF2. I never played TF2 in my life and I picked up the Sniper class and I was wrecking the entire team. So yeah, going from CSS to TF2 is like going from Devil May Cry 3 Difficulty Dante Must Die to Super Mario Galaxy. Just move on, thats all. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 457 Joined: 18 Sep 2008  | Man this happens everywhere. There is a thread on the forums here about 'how to be cool online' . It's more of a mock-thread, but one of the points is: If they are winning, they are cheating. (Summed up, not a quote), and I hear it all the time. Even on consoles! Me and my buddies were playing COD4 on XBL and we got into a room where we just slaughtered the other team. I mean, more then one of them had under 8 kills and over 15 deaths. What do we hear when we get into the lobby after the match? 'You guys are using mod hacks' or 'You guys are glitching'. Both of which neither of my team would use.
And I absolutely agree. People DO cheat (because they're so insecure), but people are also sore losers too. I don't really have the 'banning' problem you do as I'm on a console, but to avoid stupid people in general, I try to find a group of people to play with that I know are good people. I'm sure you could find a server like that (With good people) who won't ban you at the first sign of skill. |
Muckraker  Posts: 296 Joined: 31 Mar 2008 | I know that with the clan that I run , the Brazen Guard, my admins go through a lot of trouble to make sure that someone really is cheating before they get banned (that means spectating for long periods of time, recording demos, etc). If it actually looks like someone is aimbotting or wallhacking, we'll ban them off the server after we make sure. Of course, I guess we're one of the "good ones" for actually knowing what the difference between a good player and a cheating bastard is. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 75 Joined: 8 May 2008 | I used to be an avid css player, and Ive been kicked from quite a few server's for "cheating". |
Paperboy Posts: 40 Joined: 3 Oct 2008 |
Heh, I think I'd join :D It'd be good fun :) |
Paperboy Posts: 13 Joined: 22 Sep 2008 | Two friends of mine, one rl and one online one has had this fate, the rl friend of mine got banned from a DoD:S server for playing the Sniper well as heck (as well as having a spot-on reaction, which was interpreted as wallhacking <.<), as well as topping the server stats in like two weeks.. xD And I -know- this guy, he hates cheaters and hackers as much me XD My online friend got banned from servers on CoD2 for the same, stupid reasons. I myself have never been good enough at FPS' to be accused for something, though the occasional kiddo comes by and claims I do whenever it's either obvious I'm just another honest player, or do something that -anyone- with a brain can do.. like this time in Battlefield 1942, when this jackass-fighter comes flying directly towards my tank, shooting with the machine guns at me, and I shoot a shell right in his face (Remember, it's not that hard hitting a plane in BF1942 that comes flying directly at you <.<) and the kid accuses me xD On the other hand, everyone else was on my side of that, so... Poor kid |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 526 Joined: 3 Sep 2008 | I'd join a CSS clan I guess. I'd rather make a TF2 one though really. |
Paperboy Posts: 40 Joined: 3 Oct 2008 | I'm already in a TF2 clan -Dead Face- (Which hopefully you'll see doing well in the leagues soon as we just started, we're only in ED), but for CSS I am free, even though I haven't touched the game in about 9 months I'm sure I could get good again pretty quickly :D |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 354 Joined: 7 Feb 2008 | In the professional gaming world cheats are a non-issue. Or very close to being non-issue. Quake III doesn't have easily accessible cheats. You really have to dig deep to find one that works. And when it comes to Q3, the cheats are often times not as good as the actual players (lol). |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 454 Joined: 22 Aug 2008 | i used to get banned from BF2 servers all the time. It seems that when you're running across an open road way and ppl are shooting at you, holding a medic kit in your hands so when you get hit you'll be healed almost instantly is called hacking... yet ppl with aimbots and PKM's could go all match and never get banned..oh wait, the PKM ws that stupidly accurate anyway for no reason. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 183 Joined: 26 Sep 2008 | I'm sorta split on this issue if your an admin and its the choice between one person banned or your game wrecked by constant insults or the entire other team quiting out of rage its the old one v many debate. Again if the admin is playing with friends and you are clearly a/several rungs above them in terms of skill they might want you off their server (as your too good for them) but think asking you directly won't work. Then again as the old saying/quote goes "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" so theres bound to be a few napoleon/God complex kiddies out there. Oh and if you do know someone is absolutely cheating but the admns won't do anything about it? Don't bitch about it take the mans approach-organize your team into an "everybody takes the cheater strategy" come at them from multiple angles at the same time and ignore every other player on the opposing team. Sure for a few rounds you will get screwed score wise and its technically griefing but your griefing a griefer and they will most often quit after a while. |
Paperboy  Posts: 28 Joined: 30 Sep 2008 | don't play as a sniper or demoman,ever noob trys to get them booted.or tey a sever that says "pros only" that has valve anticheat on. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 86 Joined: 30 Apr 2008 | Having been an admin on a CS 1.6 server, and having occasionally visited other public servers, I can relate to your frustration. In our clan, one guy spent hours practising to be an awpwhore. He got so good at no-scopes and headshots that even I got frustrated playing against him. Any server we went to, he was immediately accussed of hacking. It was only a matter of time until I was also accussed; though I certainly wasn't an awpwhore (I loathed the thought), I knew how to look and listen and that was often more than many noobs could understand ("How did you hear me coming? Hacker!"). On the other hand, as an admin for a server, we often had people hacking, as well as people whining and complaining that the good players were hacking. It can often be difficult to tell the difference; though some hacks are obvious (e.g. the aimbot that suddenly points towards a wall and scores a headshot on the other side), others are nearly indistinguishable from regular play. I have no doubt that we sometimes banned people who were just unbelievably good. Since we had a reputation for being good players ourselves, we often attracted other good players. This meant both that it was difficult to tell the good from the hackers, but also that we expected this and required substantial proof before banning someone. To make matters worse, the cheaters are often more vocal than the good guys. We had more than one person using the obvious aimbots that bitched and whined when we banned them. They peppered our forums with insults and demands to be unbanned (why do so many 12 year olds think that name-calling will encourage people to be nice to them?). They accused us of banning good players, etc. So, while it's entirely possible that the admin who banned you is really inexperienced and can't tell the difference, it's also possible that you are good enough -- and so are the cheaters -- that it's hard to tell the difference. In either case, while it's frustrating to be continually be banned from servers, appreciate the fact that your skills are unbelievable. Your best bet is to find a good clan to become friends with -- amateur clans will be the first to ban you, but good clans will befriend you quickly when they see your skills and they won't be quick to accuse you of hacking. Once you find the trust of a group, you can rest assured they won't be banning you, even if some loud-mouthed kid accuses you. You can usually tell the good admins apart fairly easily -- they'll ignore the loud-mouthed accuser for awhile, then finally come out saying, "He's not hacking, STFU." Avoid the ones that are quick to ban anybody who speaks up, mentions hacking, or otherwise seems more than happy to exercise his artificial power. |
Very recently I was banned from a server on TF2. The German Fight Club server (cp_orange_x3 24/7) I believe. I was banned because nearly everyone on the server was accusing me of using an aim bot (I was a sniper playing very well I admit, but I was not using a hack). This is really irritating though, a few players even spectated me and somehow still came to the conclusion I was using an aim bot even though I didn't hit every shot. After about half an hour total time on the server an admin must have joined and I was banned for life (With no reason from the admin). This stuff really gets to me.
I used to be an avid CSS player (Ok.. so I was addicted to it XD) and I was banned from a huge amount of servers on that game, I'm talking triple figures, with reasons usually being use of an aim bot or use of a wall hack. I have never used any such things in either game, or any game for that matter. The huge amount of bans from CSS are what forced me to quit the game and look elsewhere.
This is only the first time it has happened on TF2 and hopefully will be the only time but still, I want your opinions :)
What is it about admins and players accusing anyone better than them, or even in some cases luckier than them, of being hackers? Banning them aswell :(