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Beat Writer  Posts: 149 Joined: 5 Oct 2008     | |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 410 Joined: 7 May 2008   | I, for one, am excited because I loved the first game, and am looking forward to what I believe is a sandbox version of it. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1259 Joined: 29 Dec 2007   | Because most people feel diffrent, or because most people are part of the hype. Me, I don't mind giving in to hype, I'm most often happy with what I get. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 109 Joined: 8 Oct 2008  | I enjoyed fable 1 so I hope to enjoy its sequal; I managed to ignore the compass in oblivion and it will take a giant racing game style WRONG WAY GO BACK sign for me to get caught up on shiny trails. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 93 Joined: 30 Jul 2008  | I don't know f you've played or liked it, but the combat is supposed to be like kingdom hearts. That was onebutton and extremely fun. The only real problem would be the camera. and yes, you can turn the breadcrumb trail off, But it is just supposed to be a replacement for the minimap. You can still make your own paths even with it on. I'm sory if this comes off as a defense of the game, I didn't mean it that way. I just wanted to make sure you knew the whole story. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2859 Joined: 10 Mar 2008    | It's easy to make those deductions from a game you've never played before, but it's understandable since everyone gets skeptical from everything. I for one am starting to wish I had a 360 for this game but I'm going to wait for the reviews to come out before I jump the wagon. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 551 Joined: 15 Jun 2008 | Im excited ebcause Fable 1 was my favoutire ever game (and still is) because I didn't pay any attension to the hype. This time I am older and HAVE been paying attension to the hype, and after seeing the videos I am hooked. The combat system is great - guns are not that powerful, they are slow and reload so don't even go there. And better player will gain more experiance than button-mashers (who will stuggle) because combat is rythem based. co-op looks great and you can enable safety. The camera dosn't concern me because it looks great. The golden sparks disappear if its obvious your not going to follow them... Even as an avid GOW player (I played for £ =D) I am looking foreward to this game even more than GOW 2. It looks great, (the graphics) and the gameplay looks like Im going to have great fun playing it the 2 weeks before GOW 2 is released. This thread was kinda poor, you obviously didn't look up much infomation... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2900 Joined: 27 Apr 2008    | FREEDOM! That's why we're excited by it, we can ignore camera and combat problems for the freedom to do anything |
Beat Writer Posts: 149 Joined: 5 Oct 2008 | Stop me if you've heard this one before: Peter Molyneux proposes a game full of interesting and inventive game ideas which gets massive hype because people love those ideas, and then delivers a game that has awkard gameplay and/or doesn't deliver on those ideas as much as was promised. Black and White? Fable? Black and White 2? Yes, I'm being skeptical. I've seen Molyneux do this 3 times already. I'm not saying Fable 2 will suck (and it probably won't be bad), and I'm not ruling out the possibility that it will be awesome. All I'm saying is, considering Molyneux's track record, have a little skepticism. The best and most impartial information currently available about what Fable 2 is like to play is watching the game get played in previews, so look at a few preview videos critically before you go getting all hyped up. I hear a lot of awesome talk in them, but I don't see a lot of awesomeness being delivered. Hell, you'll probably enjoy it better if you don't get caught up in the hype. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 469 Joined: 24 Jul 2008 | 90% of what Molyneux promised for the first game that he didn't deliver on would have actually been detrimental to the game or is so insignifigant that mentioning it is just nitpicking. If you disagree, tell me everything he hyped up to death.
No, he said they'll be able to play. And, while even I doubt he'll make a game that casual players will be able to play successfully and hardcore ones will be able to sink their teeth into for a long time and not get all the juices out, I assure you that it'll atleast be better than the crappy fight system elder scrolls 4 gives you. Even the original fable is better than elder scrolls IV in terms of fighting.
the story or the trailer. I agree the trailer sucks but you really can't critisize a story when you still have no idea what it is and just how it starts. |
Muckraker  Posts: 226 Joined: 4 Jun 2008 |
While the games you mention may not have delivered on everything that was initially proposed, none of them were bad games. In fact, they were very good games. I've followed Dr Molyneux's progress since playing the original Populous 20-odd years ago, and he's barely put a foot wrong. His track record under Bullfrog and Lionhead is second to none. Yes, he's outspoken amidst his peers - but he's earned the right to speak, and with great authority. So why not let's wait for at least ONE review of Fable II, or better still actually play the game, before making any judgements. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 783 Joined: 27 Mar 2008 |
Hey, you do know the Creature in B&W (and 2) developed it's own way of thinking during the test stage? I suppose some of his "hype feeding" was based on that. |
Beat Writer Posts: 149 Joined: 5 Oct 2008 |
I could write plenty on what Fable didn't deliver, and why not having any hint of story in the trailer is probably a bad sign for the story, but right now I'll confine myself to the most major thing. On a good day, the fighting in Oblivion might charitably be described as 'average'. However, at no stage in Oblivion did I ever have any difficulty pointing myself in the right direction to hit my enemy. Watch the gameplay video I linked. The developer, who is meant to be showing off the sword and gun combat to the gaming media and the world, twice ends up doing a series of slashes in the wrong direction, before he gives up and switches over to using guns. It's his own game and he's meant to be impressing us, and that's what he could deliver. Maybe he just really sucks. Maybe. |
Muckraker  Posts: 246 Joined: 5 Mar 2008  |
That, and Fable was just an amazing experience, it's hard not to look forward to this game. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 360 Joined: 16 Aug 2008  | I thought Fable 2 wasn't going to ship with Co-op... |
Press Junketeer Posts: 469 Joined: 24 Jul 2008 |
do so
I don't think trailers are a good place for the story.
in that case
I'll give you that.
How old is that? because I saw vids of him demonstrating combat months ago. and he's obviously not very good at the game, and that was a while ago so they might have fixed it up by now. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 105 Joined: 12 Mar 2008 | Fable was probably my favourite last gen game (well it and FFX). So any game that looks to expand, build upon and grow the franchise is the sort of thing i can sink my teeth into. I've pre-ordered my collecters edition, played through all the 'Pub-Game' tournaments and am now eagerly awaiting my return to Albion to beat up that jerk who pushes me out a window!!!!! |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 83 Joined: 27 Jan 2008  | I don't have a 360, but Fable II is one of the games I'd really like to play. I have the first one on my computer and I still play it. I watched the videos and I didn't see anything that would break the game. I don't expect the game to be the second coming of Mario. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 670 Joined: 31 Oct 2007   |
Well, it's been hinted at fairly well that there will eventually be a PC version. I too lack a 360 but eagerly anticipate a PC release. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1397 Joined: 6 Sep 2008 | Because people have the memories of Koi fish. I'm probably gonna get it and play it (assuming I EVER get a damn 360), but i'm not going to forget the FIRST game promised all this and failed. |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 8 Joined: 3 Sep 2008 | I hope this game is good. I haven't paid any attention to the hype so I only have a slight idea on what to expect. Don't let me down Lionhead. |
Anonymous Source  Posts: 9 Joined: 10 Apr 2008 |
Actually it will but it will only work on one system the online co op will apparantly not work for a week or two after release. Edit: personally I can't wait for this game I loved the first one though maybie that's because I picked it up second hand ages after it's release wthout knowing anything about it prior to purchase so I wasn't caught up in the hype. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 109 Joined: 17 Feb 2008 |
Mainly because very few great things have come out this year especially for the xbox 360. Thus people are looking forward to fable 2 as 1 was a great game. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 496 Joined: 15 Aug 2008 | I am exited as hell about fable 2, loved the original game, gonna become evil emperor of the world in fable 2. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 670 Joined: 31 Oct 2007 |
That's always been one of my favorite typos on forums. I don't know why. Always makes me laugh, though. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 522 Joined: 10 Aug 2008 |
Correction, it'll be an update on the day of release. -Ricky |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 511 Joined: 8 Jul 2008  | Ok to the TC have you played the game? No? then shut up! Edit: plus I'm pretty sure the guy contolling the chick is Peter Molenue and I'm sure he's not a gamer |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 68 Joined: 3 Sep 2008 | My boss went to the gamestop expo where he was able to play fable 2. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1439 Joined: 7 Sep 2008  |
My main worry, though, is that we'll suffer another round of false promises on Molyneaux's part. Ah well- I'm being cynical when there's no need to be......Yet....... That will be the best thing about Fable 2, though, if it has it....... |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 555 Joined: 6 Mar 2008 | The dog companion/feature looks awesome. Even if it turns out to be an irritant I admire the thinking behind it. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 140 Joined: 13 Aug 2008  | Even though Fable is by far one of my most favourite games (I play it to pass the time until 2 comes out). Saying this though i can admit, Fable and Lost Chapters didn't hit the mark of what Molyneux originally promised us, but realistically, everything he promised wouldn't have been completely possible on the console of that era (the original Xbox). We're entering a stage in Computer Gaming now where people are no longer interested by long-winded Linearity, people want to be able to make choices, they want those choices to affect the world around them, and i think Fable, dispite it's obvious gameplay and story flaws even coupled with the empty promises delivers the kind of environment that gamers want really well. Fable 2 if anything, despite any hype or promises, should if common sense still exists in the world, be an improvment on that. Yes, the combat hasn't been stepped-up too much from the previous title, but they HAVE tried to expand on it by making it, as others have said, more rythm(forgive spelling if wrong) based, but really, there wasn't anything incredibly wrong with the combat in Fable. The Trailer will be bland because really, it's only there to show off gameplay and give a vague view of what this game will look like. This is also the first time i've ever heard any issues with the camera... Also i vaguely remember watching a development video for this game where Molyneux apologised for promising so much for the first game, but went on to say "What's the point in making a game if you don't whole-heartedly believe that it's the best game ever?" Like i said, i'm not trying to Justify his empty promises (as much as i'm sure it sounds like it). But really, thinking a game will be poor because it fails to tell a story or because Combat looks repetative or because there is seemingly no person on earth that thinks Molyneux is a competant human being, especially when no one bar the play-testers has had a chance to play it, is a bit silly. Especially when most of todays greatest "Mainstream" games are pretty much the same, bar the molyneux bit. For example, Halo. I play that almost constantly, the story isn't important, to me it's just a string of long quests that unlock more areas for me to burn and pillage. Anyway, i think my point as reached rambling point and it's gone on longer then i really felt necessary, so i'll leave it at that. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 78 Joined: 23 Jul 2008 | Touche Archemetis...touche... |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 6154 Joined: 30 Jan 2008   | Ok, this is me being serious - can anyone give any justification as to why the game has STDs? That sounds more like Molyneaux showing that hes a bit immature rather than a major technical innovation. Plus, that is likely to scare off a couple of players, and its not likely to draw any new ones in (at least I kinda hope not - I really don't want to think that there are gamers who are looking for a Chlamydia sim) |
Copy Clerk Posts: 105 Joined: 12 Mar 2008 |
For every choice a consequence i suppose lol! |
OK, so everyone seems to be walking around with huge GOTY stiffies for Fable 2. So I went to checked out a few preview videos on youtube, to see what everyone was getting exctited about.
And I'm kinda unconvinced.
The good stuff I saw:
Awesome coop system, bigger world, exceptionally pretty, spiffy guns and murdering annoying people.
The bad stuff:
The combat looks kinda poor. Check out this gameplay demonstration, and count the number of times someone makes stabbing moves in directions unrelated to where the actual enemies are. Guns owned everyone with ease.
The developer comes out and plainly says that the combat is meant to be suited for button mashing casual players, which might be lovely for them, but gives me a sense of dread that fighting will be lobotomised.
The camera looks a bit dodgy, it doesn't seem to be under anyone's control and at several points enemies creep in from the other direction to the camera and get a hit in.
If your co-op player is a bastard, they can kill your husband/wife and children. Which might actually be okay, because in that demonstration the developers NPC husband looked like a ungrateful twat.
Just in case you didn't think the first game had enough hand-holding (and, no, you didn't), this time a little sparkly trail will pop up to show you where to go. I really, really hope you can turn that off, because otherwise you are going to be constantly reminded that the developer thinks you're a drooling imbecile and maps and roads are too hard for you. By Fable 3, I fully expect that if you dither for more than a minute, a helpful character, perhaps a paperclip, will appear, pat you on the head, murmer "there, there", and gently take you by the hand to lead you to your destination.
The trailer is a riveting glimpse at the intriguing story. Just kidding, it's utterly bland.
In short, it looks very pretty but a bit dumbed down. What's all the fuss about this game that makes it a GOTY contender? Why are people excited by it?