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Chimpzy:

cathou:
that is still canon. They have plans for him, i'm pretty sure that they dont drop that bomb in the movies and then not use it. it will either be in a tv show or maybe in the boba fett movie i guess...

They already have. Maul played a major role in the Star Wars Rebels cgi series which starts about 5 years before A New Hope (So after Solo) and ends somewhere before Rogue One (but fairly close).

yes i know that, but since that story already exist, i'm pretty sure that they might come up with something between solo and Rebels. maybe he will be the boss of boba fett in the next story

Hawki:

Natemans:

I liked him. He wasn't that horrible. Jesus.

Solo was fine and I liked Last Jedi. Then again I've been told my opinion is shit anyway

I liked Rio and Val as well. It's a shame they weren't in the movie more, because while we don't see much of them, they do leave an impression, Rio especially.

But, yeah, I liked Solo, and I liked Last Jedi even more.

Look, to me these video sums up how I see Star Wars and want it to be and this one is through music with fitting images:

And just so you know that its not just the Old Republic, I wish the Original Trilogy was more like this:

Solo was ayt. I mean I've already forgotten most of it.

It was unintentionally funny as the movie checked items off its "elements of Han's origins" list one by one. His dice (which are supposed to be the dice he used to win the Falcon, but whatevs), check. His gun, check (why Woody would strip down a rifle instead of just giving it to Han...), check. The Millenium Falcon's junk heap look, check. The two prongs on the Falcon's prow, check.

Yet oddly the one thing I think they didn't show was Chewie's life debt to Han. I mean he did save Chewie's butt a few times but they never specifically mentioned it. I guess they thought people didn't like the idea of Chewie being essentially Han's slave?

The Maul cameo (since we don't seem to be keeping it non spoiler anymore) was cool, and also hilarious. Hey, lemme just light up my saber then put it out for no particular reason! But yeah, I was expecting Vader or Fett so it was a nice surprise. Makes sense too, considering how Maul controlled basically all of galactic organized crime at one point.

So in the end, a 7/10 (but then I'm the kind of guy who considers a 6 as a bad movie).

The epitome of "just a movie". Not annoyed that I watched it, wouldn't have minded if I didn't.

EDIT: I just realized that this is the first movie that doesn't have Threepio and R2.

Kill Bill Vol 1 -

Been a long time since I watched this so thought I'd give it a rewatch. Still really good.

9/10

Bob_McMillan:
Solo was ayt.

AYT?

Hawki:

Bob_McMillan:
Solo was ayt.

AYT?

Ayt. Aight. Aryt. Aightie. Arytie. Alright.

Get with the program, grandpa!

Natemans:
Kill Bill Vol 1 -

Been a long time since I watched this so thought I'd give it a rewatch. Still really good.

9/10

I think Vol. 2 was the best.

Samtemdo8:

Natemans:
Kill Bill Vol 1 -

Been a long time since I watched this so thought I'd give it a rewatch. Still really good.

9/10

I think Vol. 2 was the best.

I think both work great in contrast to one another.

The Circle (2017)

I was not a fan, to say the least. Granted, I was not terribly excited to watch it in the first place, but looking at it critically, I can't help but see it as a mess. At the start of the film, Watson's character says that she's most afraid of "unfulfilled potential", and I think that phrase sums up the film nicely. The film is thematically scattered and touches on a variety of issues that could have carried the film, ranging from our virtual interconnectedness actually disconnecting us from personal interaction (exemplified at the start where Watson told an old friend to his face that she'd text him to see about getting together, leading to him mumbling that they could do that right then), how striving for 100% in all things can make overall successes still feel like failures and/or lead to unreasonable impositions, how shallow mob mentality can lead to tragedy, the need to balance privacy and security, or how celebrity status can warp our perceptions.

Almost invariably, however, these ideas are only touched upon in the shallowest of manners. Even the idea of the eponymous Circle being abused to get dirt on political adversaries is dropped almost as soon as it is introduced. What we ended up with was a confused story that didn't seem to know whether it was trying to push the idea of 100% connectedness was a net gain or net benefit. And I don't mean that in a "make up your own mind" sense. I mean that near the end we see it used to locate and catch a fugitive in under 20 minutes, then 2 minutes later it's abused to harass an innocent, and then we get a speech that the problem wasn't that it was abused but that it didn't go far enough, followed by our protagonist smiling up at the drones tracking her every movement. It's difficult to say whether we're supposed to see this as Stockholm Syndrome or genuine appreciation.

The Circle is a film that suffers from severe tonal inconsistency and an unwillingness to actually explore the issues it broaches. I give it 1.5 out of 5 stars.


Black Panther

I wanted so much to like this movie, and while I would still say that it was worth the price of admission, I can't help but feel that it also failed to live up to its potential.

Much like the Circle, Black Panther also suffers from broaching more issues than it is willing to explore, and it doesn't really focus on any of them to an appreciable degree. Yes, there are repeated references to oppression and bigotry, but the overwhelming majority of the film takes place in Wakanda where those issues are not present, and its greatest champion is the antagonist who simply comes off as driven by hatred rather than a sense of moral righteousness. Similarly, the film repeatedly touches on the dichotomies of progress and tradition, and the virtues and failings of isolationism vs interventionism, but these almost feel slapped on for how little emphasis they get. Duty to crown vs. duty to country? Touched on but never explored. Even the wonderful use of T'Challa and Killmonger as dramatic foils is squandered through lack of emphasis.

If I look at other Marvel films, I see a strong tendency for them to revolve around a theme. Iron Man revolved around accountability. That is what drove Stark to become Iron Man and separated him from the antagonist. Iron Man 2 revolved around legacy: His father's legacy, his own legacy in the face of his own mortality, Hammer's desperation to make his own mark on the world, Whiplash's desire to destroy the Stark legacy (and arguably being a result of it). Thor was about worthiness, Thor's worth as a warrior not making up for his personal deficiencies, Loki's sense of self-worth being greatly tarnished by the revelation of past and his comparison to his brother, to say nothing of his desire to prove his worth to his father. Doctor Strange was about failure. Failure to fix Strange's hands, failure to accept that fact and move on, failure in the teaching of Kalisius, failure to protect the sanctuaries, failure to stop the antagonists. This is summed up in the middle of the film when the Ancient One comments that Strange always excelled not because he craved success but feared failure, and how that was what kept him from greatness. The Incredible Hulk is about fear, specifically Banner's fear about his own uncontrolled power, and the antagonist's distinct lack of fear (eagerness, in fact) to acquire that same power.

However, if I look at Black Panther, I cannot identify a central theme. There are a good number of issues they touch on, and that are worth additional exploration, but none of them are really central to the story. It's all window dressing. Worse still, some of the issues they touched on felt like they would be a better fit for Static than Black Panther.

With that being said, Black Panther remains an entertaining film with good acting and characters, but it lacks a strong central narrative that would have changed it from a good film to a great film. It's worth watching, but if you're going in expecting it to set a new standard like Iron Man did, you will be disappointed.

Filth
A real intense performance from James McAvoy as a highly unpleasant, manipulative, selfish yet ambitious Scottish police officer with some personal troubles to say the least, descending into self-imposed madness. A pretty powerful exploration of a wee little issue that perhaps rhymes with "Rock-stick mass divinity." The supporting cast are all great too, but this is very much centred around his character as the worst human to grace the police force, while still portraying a deeply repressed sympathetic side. McAvoy respect continues to grow. Maybe I'll check the book out, but watching film before book is not my preferred order of intake

Capote
Have been wanting to see this for some while, mainly through a great appreciation of the underappreciated Philip Seymour Hoffman and hearing it's one of his best roles. I did clap when he appeared in The Hunger Games, sort of, mentally. Having not an ounce of knowledge on the real life story of Truman Capote going in, there were no expectations as this was all new to me. But it covers time during the research for his last novel on two killers in death row for murdering an entire family one night where he tries to connect with them to understand what occured and why it came to be. Considered the years that pushed him further toward alcoholism and addiction and eventually his death. Is quite good, nuanced with no clear morality or perhaps the answers some may seem to expect from any ordinary movie. Needless to say was impressed with performance as a sincere and empathetic human. In all, it's a drama that doesn't promise typical resolution most would want from their watching experience, so i would recommend to anybody who doesn't find anything mentioned here a deal-breaker.

I have seen the movie Waterloo, which is now on Yotube in 1080p with multiple langauges and subtitles:

But I watched 3 different videos of the movie in English, French, and German because 3 nations were at this battle. I watched the French Scenes in French, the British Scenes in English, and the Prussian Scenes in German all to give a much more authentic take on the history and battle here.

Now basically the movie is great, but I have one problem that puts this film from a 5 out of 5 to a 4 out of 5 and sadly, the battles shown here feels....dated in the sense that it was movie made in 1970 exactly, so the battles will not be as gruesome as something you seen in Saving Private Ryan, like despite all the dirt and explosions the fighting still feels reletively PG-13 and some of the melee combat feels rather cheap.

Like to use a better example, if the battles here looked as brutal as 1989s Glory, Waterloo would have been one of the best War movies ever. It has the scope and numbers of extras, but doesn't have the brutality (and sound effects) like this:

But the rest of the movie is great, and the Napoleon actor really sold him being this grizzled, veteran Napoleon that has already been through so much.

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Is aight. Yeah, I'd say its praise is well deserved. Impressive cast and is sadly refreshing to have a lead female who isn't picked mainly for their youthful prettiness for once.

The Incredibles 2
It's the exact same movie as the original, only Bob and Helen switch seats. That 14 year wait goes completely unacknowledged: movie opens on the original's climax, immediately resets status quo so the Parr family is back in square one (laying low, forbidden from acting out their hero calling, etc) and then proceeds to copy the original beat for beat up to and including the "Here we go again!" ending. Now I liked the original a lot and I had a good time with the sequel but I'd be lying if a part of me was completely unimpressed with it as well. It's just the same movie all over again.

Mission Impossible (1996) -

Since Fallout is coming out, I decided to rewatch the films. Original is still pretty good. Only flaws are some of the CGI is a bit dated and the plot is a bit complicated at times, but overall still works. Good script, solid cast especially Tom Cruise, great direction by Brian De Palma and some really fun action.

Johnny Novgorod:
The Incredibles 2
It's the exact same movie as the original, only Bob and Helen switch seats. That 14 year wait goes completely unacknowledged: movie opens on the original's climax, immediately resets status quo so the Parr family is back in square one (laying low, forbidden from acting out their hero calling, etc) and then proceeds to copy the original beat for beat up to and including the "Here we go again!" ending. Now I liked the original a lot and I had a good time with the sequel but I'd be lying if a part of me was completely unimpressed with it as well. It's just the same movie all over again.

Did they gave Helen Parr more "Fanservices-y" scenes?

As in some scenes that will be used as fodder for "artists" in the internet?

Edge of Tomorrow

Overall a fun "sci-fi-groundhog day-alien war" watch

Samtemdo8:

Johnny Novgorod:
The Incredibles 2
It's the exact same movie as the original, only Bob and Helen switch seats. That 14 year wait goes completely unacknowledged: movie opens on the original's climax, immediately resets status quo so the Parr family is back in square one (laying low, forbidden from acting out their hero calling, etc) and then proceeds to copy the original beat for beat up to and including the "Here we go again!" ending. Now I liked the original a lot and I had a good time with the sequel but I'd be lying if a part of me was completely unimpressed with it as well. It's just the same movie all over again.

Did they gave Helen Parr more "Fanservices-y" scenes?

As in some scenes that will be used as fodder for "artists" in the internet?

Nope, and believe me I was waiting for them.

Ocean's 8 (6/10)

When a family member asked me about Ocean's 8, I told them that if they asked me a few years from now, I'd probably go "what?" A bit of an exaggeration, but I feel that sums up my feelings about this film - it's fine, it's average, it's reasonably enjoyable, but it's not the type of film that leaves any sort of lasting impression. Granted, I was never a big Ocean's X fan in the first place - I saw Ocean's 11 back in the day, found it reasonably enjoyable, and never thought about it again. While this does take place in the same continuity, you don't need to be familiar with said continuity to 'get' the film, even if some cameos are made, and some shots and dialogue are duplicated from the original (or technically the remake, since few think of the Sinatra O11 before the Clooney one). As for the characters...they're fine, I guess, but none of them really undergo an arc, and few are really fleshed out. That's a sin that the original shares as well, and you could argue that character isn't important in a heist film, but even so, it's a noticabale shortcoming. On the other hand, each character at least has their own personality, so there is that.

So, how does it fare as a heist film? Well, okay - it's telling that this is a 21st century film when the success of the heist depends on tech such as hacking and 3D printing. But there's a lot of moments where things seem to succeed "just because" - as in, something has to happen, they do the thing, and then it happens, regardless of how unlikely it is that it would happen. That's a trait endemic to a lot of movies, granted, but here, when so much time is spent on the logistics of the heist, leaps of faith become far more noticeable. But that aside, the movie is at least fun. Popcorn fun that doesn't leave too much of an impression (aside from the editing/directing - it's highly styalized at times), but still, fun.

Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (5/10)

It's so-so. I like that it says goodbye to the island park setting and it has a few fun ideas, but overall, it's predictable and genuine thrills are in short supply. It asks some ethical questions, but never engages those in a meaningful way. And they recycled the "train the dinos to be bioweapons" subplot from the previous one, except the villains in this movie suffer from even cartoonier Weyland-Yutani levels of stupid. A dumb movie, but overall pretty inoffensive. Jurassic Park still stands far above.

Watching the Motherfucking T-Rex wreck shit never gets old though.

Incredibles 2 -

8/10

I enjoyed it

Xsjadoblayde:
Filth
A real intense performance from James McAvoy as a highly unpleasant, manipulative, selfish yet ambitious Scottish police officer with some personal troubles to say the least, descending into self-imposed madness. A pretty powerful exploration of a wee little issue that perhaps rhymes with "Rock-stick mass divinity." The supporting cast are all great too, but this is very much centred around his character as the worst human to grace the police force, while still portraying a deeply repressed sympathetic side. McAvoy respect continues to grow. Maybe I'll check the book out, but watching film before book is not my preferred order of intake

Defo read the book. Somehow it is more *ahem* filthy (and depressing if you can believe it) than the film. It also gives you a lot more insight into how Bruce became such an evil misanthrope. And Irvine Welsh is generally a great author, IMHO.

Duck Soup

It mostly wasn't for me, but I'm sure many others will think differently. After all, I heard nothing but praise for the Marx Brothers before I ended up actually watching one of their movies.

It wasn't all bad for me. There were some moments that really amused me for playing around with common tropes. Things like having an over-elaborate "Here comes our fearless leader" song only for the leader to not show up at the end of the song. Or, having a scene showing a bed, some discarded women's shoes, and some discarded men's shoes, and then panning further to show some discarded horseshoes. I loved it when the movie messed with my trope-riddled expectations like that.

Honestly, for me, the biggest weakness of this Marx Brothers movie was the Marx Brothers themselves. They felt seriously out of place in this movie, and whenever they were on stage, their lines often felt like a bunch of dad jokes, awkwardly shoehorned into a scene. A comedy works for me when it feels like it fits in the context of the movie. Even super-absurd movies like Spaceballs, Robin Hood: Men in Tights, and Naked Gun had characters who were in-character and whose comedic behavior seemed to fit the wacky settings they were placed in. The Marx Brothers, on the other hand, just acted like the Marx Brothers, more interested in causing mischief and telling jokes, than in playing any sort of role in the movie. I felt more annoyed than amused.

Chewster:
Defo read the book. Somehow it is more *ahem* filthy (and depressing if you can believe it) than the film. It also gives you a lot more insight into how Bruce became such an evil misanthrope. And Irvine Welsh is generally a great author, IMHO.

Irvine Welsh is up there with Ben Elton for me for sure. One assumption best made for any book-to-film adaption is that there tends to be restrictions on content, so a reoccurring thought while watching happened to naturally be "what are they not showing here?"

Valerian and the City of 1000 planets.

I knew it wasn't going to be good walking into it and I was not disappointed in that regard. The movie has a lot of interesting ideas and clearly somebody really did care about it, but the execution is so badly done on so many things(except for the visuals. It looks really good) that....it just doesn't work.

Apparently the original comic book was quite amazing in the 1960's and 1970's, from what I've heard, but the fact it took 50 years for this film to get made did it no favors, even if it had been done better.

I also spent a lot of the film occasionally thinking "Remember Guardians of the Galaxy? That was a good movie. I kind of which I was watching that right now". It's never a good sign when a film keeps reminding you of a better film.

Gauche:
Edge of Tomorrow

Overall a fun "sci-fi-groundhog day-alien war" watch

Also, getting to see Tom Cruise die over and over again. Which for me was worth it since I find Cruise kind of annoying.

Dalisclock:

Gauche:
Edge of Tomorrow

Overall a fun "sci-fi-groundhog day-alien war" watch

Also, getting to see Tom Cruise die over and over again. Which for me was worth it since I find Cruise kind of annoying.

I think that's why I often recommend that movie to people who don't like Cruise. And this is coming from a guy who actually likes Tom Cruise lol

Upgrade (2018) -

Really dug it. Its not the most original concept in the world, but I thought it was well done. Interesting social commentary, the characters were sorta compelling, the direction and action were solid and I really liked the ending.

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