Windows 10 is Upon Me

I'd done my best to avoid Windows 10, with its weird new desktop interface and fairly negative reception, but now the company I work for is putting it on our computers, so I've got not choice but to deal with it and learn to use it.

Are any of you Windows 10 vets? Should I be feeling this sense of foreboding right now, or will everything be just as good as before when I learn how to use it? What are your thoughts on Windows 10?

sageoftruth:
I'd done my best to avoid Windows 10, with its weird new desktop interface...

It's not weird, really.

Are any of you Windows 10 vets?

Yes.

Should I be feeling this sense of foreboding right now, or will everything be just as good as before when I learn how to use it?

Unless you're working in some IT capacity where you're supporting W10, it should be a fairly painless switch over, end user wise. It's not like they added foot pedals or anything.

What are your thoughts on Windows 10?

It's fine. There's some data collection stuff one could argue about, but since its your work computer, I don't see why you'd care. It performs well, the interface is familiar with a few new features that range from 'neat and useful' to 'well, its not intrusive at least.' Edge is a massive upgrade from Explorer (Through the 3rd party options are still better).

In short, everythings ok, W10 is ok, just calm down.

It's fine, the interface is basically the same as Windows 7 and they've worked most of the real annoyances out.

I mean from an end user perspective there's not much difference. You click the app and it launches. You get virtual desktops though, which are cool if you've never used them before and I think Powershell is now the default CLI so if you like that that's cool. Aside from that odds are your admins will remove most of the metro apps and it'll just be Windows 7 but newer.

Oh, unified alerting is cool if that's your thing, personally I just leave my phone under my screen.

DefunctTheory:

Unless you're working in some IT capacity where you're supporting W10, it should be a fairly painless switch over

Even then it's not too bad, our W10 rollout was just a question of getting to grip with the new features and building out GPOs, it's nowhere near as hellish as XP -7 was. The biggest pain point we had was understanding how the new update options worked and getting to grip with the templates for switching off online updates but aside from that no complaints.

Oh the WSUS upgrade category thing was a pain but once we realised what was going on there that again wasn't too bad.

Well, hard to answer without knowing how you are used to using Windows, but in short I'm inclined to say that almost everything will be as good as before.
( Seeing as it's a company thing you probably won't have control over this, but I would strongly advise to make a fresh installation rather than upgrading from a previous version if you ever decide to update your private computer ).

I have been using Windows 10 on my potato2000 ever since it released and it has been doing a good job, I like its flat and clean look and it runs rather snappy, so no complaints from me. Although a small thing, I especially like being able to customize the applications that show up on your Start Menu, having only the applications that I actually use on there is a tremendous help. Sure, I could pin them to the top of the previous Start Menu in Windows 7 and the like, but I like this grid layout more as it allows for more customization.

Its been fine for me personally. I think most of the controversy was how bad they were pushing the upgrade and how doing that to a personal 7 computer may break stuff. Starting fresh on a new computer, it is perfectly fine and critically it was well received.

Yeah, looks like it's not that big of a deal after all. My computer is still Windows 7 in my office, but I tried logging in on one of the other computers, and things seem pretty similar. I'd been worried because my new personal laptop had Windows 10 and I was unable to find lots of files from my previous laptop. I'd thought they were all hidden behind an obscure new file storage system, but it looks like they just never made it onto my new laptop. I'll have to look into transferring them from my desktop later.

DefunctTheory:

In short, everythings ok, W10 is ok, just calm down.

More or less this, plus if you are really worried about the privacy thing, they have the option to turn that stuff off. But yeah, I've been on W10 for a while and it's been fine since I got it, apart from the odd minor hiccup here and there.

I'm one that held off until I couldn't no more and have been running it for just a few months now. While overal it's been a good transition, much better then I thought it would have been, I would recommend something like windows X app remover. Just to get rid of all the build in bloatware that windows comes with. Get rid of things like the build in skype as it's horrible, get the normal one if you need/want skype. Get third party versions of many build in apps because most of the windows ones are also terrible, some I find worse than those that windows 7 and down had.

As someone who had to move to Win10 (thanks to nothing being able to get the Windows 7 installer to work with the USB3.0 slots on my new AM4 mobo) I can recommend "O&O ShutUp10", a program designed to give you complete (or as complete as is possible) control over Microsoft's reporting.

https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

It's not THAT terrible is the best thing I could say, it's better than Windows 8 and doesn't give me too much headache.

It's pretty good.

Like... It's so inoffensive but unremarkable that that's all I can say.

I still have an issue with BSODs while internet browsing, but that's model-specific, rare and fixable if I'm really inclined to fix it. Apparently, it's caused by some deprecated driver or other never being updated past Windows 7.

I've been pretty happy with windows 10 for the most part, fewer issues then their other os's after some patches and everything feels more accessible then even in windows 7.

It's pretty good. I'm forced to use Mac for my work and I honestly prefer W10's user experience much more.

Prime_Hunter_H01:
Its been fine for me personally. I think most of the controversy was how bad they were pushing the upgrade and how doing that to a personal 7 computer may break stuff. Starting fresh on a new computer, it is perfectly fine and critically it was well received.

That and people got pissed off in preview because it was unstable and nagged them a lot, presumably because they didn't know what a beta test would actually entail and thought it was just a fake 'beta' like EA occasionally does with its games.

I quite enjoy it.

Its more Windows 7 than 8, but it took design cues from 8 as everything looks a lot more square, but at its heart, it is Win 7.

It boots up in what feels like mere moments on my SSD, so there are certainly no complaints when it comes to that. Games seem to run a tad faster, too.

Literally the only problem that I have ever had with Windows 10 was when there was a bug that caused my Start menu to crash, and there were no buttons, but that seems to have been patched out.

its weird new desktop interface and fairly negative reception

waiut, are you talking about windows 8 or windows 10 ? the desktop on windows 10 work perfectly fine, and it was fairly well received for as long i remember.

I have been using it since it came out and it works just fine. In that time it crashed once on me, perhaps twice, i don't recall. Usually i tend to reinstall my OS at least once a year because it gets slow, so far i don't see the need for it. The only bad thing i can say about it is that it doesn't always agree with my external hard drive, but the thing itself might be at fault here.

Laggyteabag:
I quite enjoy it.

Its more Windows 7 than 8, but it took design cues from 8 as everything looks a lot more square, but at its heart, it is Win 7.

It boots up in what feels like mere moments on my SSD, so there are certainly no complaints when it comes to that. Games seem to run a tad faster, too.

Literally the only problem that I have ever had with Windows 10 was when there was a bug that caused my Start menu to crash, and there were no buttons, but that seems to have been patched out.

I find that the reason Windows 10 boots up so quickly is that when you tell it to shut down, it doesn't actually shut down but enter some type of low power state.

My keyboard has a Function key that swaps the F buts (F1, F2 etc) into commonly use commands. When booting up with Windows 8.1 the Function key light it lit and I have to turn the feature off.

Yet I shut down and boot with Windows 10 installed and that light remains off, telling me that the PC never actually shut down.

votemarvel:
I find that the reason Windows 10 boots up so quickly is that when you tell it to shut down, it doesn't actually shut down but enter some type of low power state.

My keyboard has a Function key that swaps the F buts (F1, F2 etc) into commonly use commands. When booting up with Windows 8.1 the Function key light it lit and I have to turn the feature off.

Yet I shut down and boot with Windows 10 installed and that light remains off, telling me that the PC never actually shut down.

Not so sure about that, I always cut the power to the extension box that my computer is plugged into when I'm done using it and my computer still boots up in what can be described as "moments", even on a normal HDD.

Think Windows 10 might just have a very light boot schedule that excludes superfluous functions such as turning on keyboard lights?

I thought I read that Windows 10 doesn't actually boot up from scratch when you shut it down normally and instead saves a lot of settings to file as you're shutting down for quicker booting. I don't remember where I heard it, though, and a brief Google search doesn't turn up anything.



I'm still resisting Windows 10. I have Windows 7 with the classic Windows95 theme. I just hate the way companies are all pushing towards constant connectivity at all times between every device you own. And how Microsoft just makes things so obtuse these days by removing options in order to make things user friendly. Computers were better back in the day when you actually owned them and could uninstall whatever you wanted.

Kind of unrelated, but I was trying to make an alias email on Outlook.com and I found out that the stupid thing still shows your real name when you send an email with an alias! Like what the heck Microsoft! What is the point of an alias that isn't actually an alias? The worst part is that there doesn't even seem to be a way of telling that it will show your name before you send it. Retarded! Outlook.com is just the epitome of Microsoft bloat, Hotmail was way better before they got their greasy hands on it. Thank goodness for smaller companies like GMX.com that actually know what they are doing, and also don't require you to have an email address to make an email address to make an email address.

Windows 10 had a negative reception!? From where? I've been using since MS gave it out for free to all Windows 7+ users (IIRC). I think it's significantly better than Win8 or 8.1. They weren't bad per se, but, like Vista, they suffered from being more like transitionary OSes. Vista was a huge departure from XP and got a lot wrong, but did some things okay. 7 fixed the bad parts and made the good parts better. Win 8 however suffered from the Metro/Tiles thing, got rid of the start menu and did so much wrong. 8.1 fixed some of these and wasn't bad overall.

Win10 however (why no 9?) is actually pretty good. First major difference is that it has a smaller footprint and uses less resources than Win7 on the same machine. Win7 and aero used 10% of your RAM out of the box which Win10 gives you back. It boots fast, works fast, supports all the latest technologies and Edge is actually alright (tho I still use Chrome). For gaming, I've had no issues running any games, old or new. Everything I've tried plays fine.

Use it, you'll be fine with it in no time.

It's still Windows, so there's that. It's an improvement over Win8 and it's better than Win7 in some aspects that you might or might not care about. There are things that will make you foam, but it's really not half bad.

The one thing you must know is that you absolutely need to save often, as Win10 has a bad habit of restarting and updating when you're not watching. You can somewhat influence this for the better when you don't get the cheapest version, but fending off the inevitable becomes a fight against windmills within months, if not weeks.

System settings is once again directly available from a RMB on the "Start" button, but a lot of settings have been moved to the new post-Metro interface, or at least have a duplicate entry there. Some options you might have known and liked and used often might now exclusively be found in the new interface. It's all a bit annoying, but Win10 has been nothing but rock-solid stable for me, and I only gave in to having to move to Win10 less than a year ago.

If you're a privacy-minded person, just make sure to go through all the options collecting your data and sending it to Microsoft. Not that Google and Apple and Facebook and all the others aren't doing it as well, but if you're like me you really don't want big brother Cortana to always be there for you.

I've found windows 10 to be great. My best advice though, to get the best out of an install I absolutely recommend not upgrading but rather doing a full clean install. Just trust me that it may be goddamn annoying to restart from scratch on the O/S, but I've worked with both an upgrade install and a fresh install (format drive then install was the best option). The upgrade had a lot of crashes that were random, and at some point some vital files were lost/deleted that prevented the O/S from functioning properly whereas with a fresh install I had a marked increase in boot, performance, game loads and FPS and just overall very little in the way of blue screens/hard locks that weren't caused by me tinkering with overclocking settings.
But then, as a long time Windows user anyway, the general consensus has always been never upgrade, always fresh install.

I've had no issues with Win10 itself. It's been stable so far, does what I want it to do and doesn't annoy me too much.

The biggest problem I've had was having to buy a new wireless network adapter since there were no Win10 compatible drivers for my old one. The Win7 drivers worked, but pretty janky. It was an aging piece of hardware in need of replacement anyway, so overall no biggie.

Win 10 is laid out from an end user perspective similar to a bastard hybrid of win 7 and win 8, you should be fine.

Feel for your IT team having to constantly stroke it to keep the proper drivers in place of the weird ones Win 10 likes to automatically install. But that is not your problem.

If your company uses mass produced, minimal spec boxes like Dell and HP, be prepared to have to wait an extra 3 seconds every time you click on something.

bluegate:
Not so sure about that, I always cut the power to the extension box that my computer is plugged into when I'm done using it and my computer still boots up in what can be described as "moments", even on a normal HDD.

Think Windows 10 might just have a very light boot schedule that excludes superfluous functions such as turning on keyboard lights?

It's definitely some sort of hibernation, because as I said if I shutdown my PC and restart that little keyboard light comes on. Sleep or hibernate on Windows 8.1 and it stays off.

Shutdown with Windows 10 and boot again and the LED remains off. Windows 10 isn't fully powering down or the keyboard would recognise that.

If what you say is true then I'm guessing, as above, it's some form of the Hibernate function, as that data persists even when a PC loses power.

A question to other posters however. Just how is Windows 10 better than 8.1? DirectX 12 I'll give you but is it the more fractured UI or Microsoft trying to take control of updates away from you that impresses so much?

My favorite part of Windows 10 is playing whack-a-mole trying to keep telemetry off :p

I have my own grudge against Windows 10, I had to reinstall it because of a buggy Creators update which totally broke my OS, and it cost me my DRM-locked media, plus many personal files. Outrageous!

Windows 10 rarely interrupts me with updates, but when it does, as it just did with the creator's update, man is it annoying. I was in the middle of a long challenge mode in Max Payne 3 when it pull me out of the game to the desktop to ask me when it should update. After two attempts of trying to Alt Tab back, I was back in the game, and thankfully the enemies hadn't killed me yet. It interrupted again shortly after. Once I finally submitted, it took like twenty or thirty minutes to install the update. I don't know exactly how long, since I went to take a shower and shave my beard. All for a bunch of crap I'm never gonna use.

 

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