Prepare For the Uprising

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Elvis Starburst:

McElroy:
Boyega looks dumb as fuck trying to be dramatic. The guy's a goofball, let's just face it.

If that was the guy at 0:48 in the trailer, I 100% agree. I had to pause and look at that. It looks so dumb. Nobody makes a face like that unless for a joke.

Boyega is the narrator and male lead(?). He was Finn in The Force Awakens. But that (0:48) guy just looks like he's taking a big ol' poop.

undeadsuitor:

Redryhno:

undeadsuitor:
I'm disappointed that the Kaiju are back (though there might be more to them than the trailer is revealing)

I really wanted to see a movie based around the ramifications of every world power having access to giant robots and no common enemy to fight

I mean, we could have had some gundam shit going on. granted, the trailer does go into that with clear shots of Jaeger fighting Jaeger so maybe there's more.

It was foreshadowed that the closing of that portal wouldn't be the end of it all though. It was essentially spelled out with "They will just keep coming". I mean, the access to Giant Robots was effectively gone at the end of the first movie too. The hangars were half destroyed and about the only people left were the scientists, the pilots, and a handful of people in the command bunkers. Not really a huge amount of people left that knew how the Jaegars were put together and maintained for it to become Gundam.

Not to mention, it's not like the Jaegars were ever even all that well-designed for Jaegar to world-power engagements to begin with. They're massive sure, but the Australians were the only ones that had anti-personnel adjacent type weapons on-board. Everything else was just big monster punchers. Like what use would 3-arm style or Gypsy's plasma gun have been when you could just launch nukes?

Idk why have tanks when we can launch nukes? Nukes don't invalidate the rest of warfare. While it's true most of the world had given up on jaegers by the start of Pacific rim, though plans don't disappear.

I think there's more to the movie than the trailer is letting on. Those very human made looking skittering robots that fuse the kaiju together at the end dobt seem like the tech that made them in the first movie.

The problem with that is that Jagers are very much a strategic level threat. Tanks are useful at a tactical level to hold ground and support troop movement. There is literally no more escalation after Jagers other than Nuclear and one could easily posit that Jagers and Nuclear weapons are on the same level.
If I had to imagine a world after Pacific rim assume the reason nukes weren't used against the kaijus were that got healed by them the Jagers would be the worlds coolest "port queens". Hardly ever taken out as the immense cost with the per hour running time would constitute very small amounts of the jager equivalent of flight hours. Not to mention they get completely superseded by Nukes in terms of cost and effectiveness. They would be kept around for about a decade or two in case of more kaijus but would have absolutely no merit otherwise other than morale in parades and such.

The thing about mecha in general is that there must be a suspension of belief required or else people don't believe it. Pacific rim worked because it didn't take it self too seriously. Trying to make it serious would just mean people would ask why they didn't just use nukes. Because if you can't hand wave away nuclear weapons with alien monsters the premise doesn't work with any amount of scrutiny.

iamzim101:

undeadsuitor:

Redryhno:

It was foreshadowed that the closing of that portal wouldn't be the end of it all though. It was essentially spelled out with "They will just keep coming". I mean, the access to Giant Robots was effectively gone at the end of the first movie too. The hangars were half destroyed and about the only people left were the scientists, the pilots, and a handful of people in the command bunkers. Not really a huge amount of people left that knew how the Jaegars were put together and maintained for it to become Gundam.

Not to mention, it's not like the Jaegars were ever even all that well-designed for Jaegar to world-power engagements to begin with. They're massive sure, but the Australians were the only ones that had anti-personnel adjacent type weapons on-board. Everything else was just big monster punchers. Like what use would 3-arm style or Gypsy's plasma gun have been when you could just launch nukes?

Idk why have tanks when we can launch nukes? Nukes don't invalidate the rest of warfare. While it's true most of the world had given up on jaegers by the start of Pacific rim, though plans don't disappear.

I think there's more to the movie than the trailer is letting on. Those very human made looking skittering robots that fuse the kaiju together at the end dobt seem like the tech that made them in the first movie.

The problem with that is that Jagers are very much a strategic level threat. Tanks are useful at a tactical level to hold ground and support troop movement. There is literally no more escalation after Jagers other than Nuclear and one could easily posit that Jagers and Nuclear weapons are on the same level.
If I had to imagine a world after Pacific rim assume the reason nukes weren't used against the kaijus were that got healed by them the Jagers would be the worlds coolest "port queens". Hardly ever taken out as the immense cost with the per hour running time would constitute very small amounts of the jager equivalent of flight hours. Not to mention they get completely superseded by Nukes in terms of cost and effectiveness. They would be kept around for about a decade or two in case of more kaijus but would have absolutely no merit otherwise other than morale in parades and such.

The thing about mecha in general is that there must be a suspension of belief required or else people don't believe it. Pacific rim worked because it didn't take it self too seriously. Trying to make it serious would just mean people would ask why they didn't just use nukes. Because if you can't hand wave away nuclear weapons with alien monsters the premise doesn't work with any amount of scrutiny.

I would assume nukes don't get used because of the lingering radiation. Bombing every kaiju that showed up would leave a massive amount of the world uninhabitable. Jaegers are nukes without the fallout

Gross.

They took all the style and substance, all the homage to classic kaiju movies, and all the self-awareness and just scrapped it all in favor of what millennial tweens want, i.e. Transformers and Power Rangers.
Oh totally glad to see the two scientist, you know the absolute worst part of the first movie, have returned when no one else did.
Oh and how great that the big bad of the movie seems to be a Kaiju possessing a Jaeger. And I just love that the Kaiju are swarming in their dozens, so now each fight won't feel like a desperate one-on-one struggle, but an over the top Transformers fight where dozens of painstakingly designed characters die every minute to give the illusion of epicness.

Those Jaegers look too fast, too sleek, too everything. They're supposed to be slow, ponderous giant robots more akin to construction equipment than a Gundam. But no, here we have round-house kicks, spins, flips, probably the splits at one point, I wouldn't put dance moves past them, 'cause Always Sunny, amirite?!

What a disappointment.

Silentpony:
millennial tweens want, i.e. Transformers and Power Rangers.

Millennial tweens weren't alive to want those things

That's washed up rich middle aged executatives thinking that millennial tweens want those things because they can't get out of the past.

Stop blaming things on the generational equivalent of a dead horse being beaten for things baby boomers did

I'm really not a fan of the new Gypsy Danger's slender shoulders.

Man, Boyega really just cannot act.

Oh well. Enjoyed Pacific Rim 1, I think I'll be giving this a miss though.

undeadsuitor:

Silentpony:
millennial tweens want, i.e. Transformers and Power Rangers.

Millennial tweens weren't alive to want those things

That's washed up rich middle aged executatives thinking that millennial tweens want those things because they can't get out of the past.

Stop blaming things on the generational equivalent of a dead horse being beaten for things baby boomers did

My point still stands that its been changed into just another Bay-esque explosion porn movie.

I've got a bad feeling about this...

I adore the first movie, despite (or perhaps because of) recognizing its many flaws.

At least from the trailer this second one seems on track to dump on a lot of what made the first one work. Boyega seems terrible, his attempt to echo the speech from the first movie is painfully bad. The Jaegers seem to be Transformered up, all bright and shiny with none of the weight or inertia the original did so well. There isn't any of the mood or omnipresent atmosphere from the first. It's all just... Meh.

I dunno, it might work out, no doubt I'll probably end up seeing it sometime, but the trailer doesn't give me much hope.

Silentpony:

Oh totally glad to see the two scientist, you know the absolute worst part of the first movie, have returned when no one else did.

Apparently Mako's back as well. And I could swear that Raleigh was in the trailer.

Well...damn.

Here I was hoping for more of Tron...but, it's this.

So...yay?

Honestly i don't get what everyone is complaining about. I thought Boyega was OK in Star Wars, and i don't watch Pacific Rim for the characters anyway. Does anyone even remember the name of the main guy in the last one? The biggest problem i had with PR1 was that the more original and varied Jaegers were taken down after 30 seconds in the first fight, something this movie seems to neatly fix by giving the Jaegers a more original arsenal in general

You know to give you a good idea how bland these new mechs are check out Cherno Alpha it has nuclear power plant for a head and a tiger face
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Look how freaggin metal this

CyanCat47:
Honestly i don't get what everyone is complaining about. I thought Boyega was OK in Star Wars, and i don't watch Pacific Rim for the characters anyway. Does anyone even remember the name of the main guy in the last one? The biggest problem i had with PR1 was that the more original and varied Jaegers were taken down after 30 seconds in the first fight, something this movie seems to neatly fix by giving the Jaegers a more original arsenal in general

Plus the Asian triplets and the Russian couple seemed like far more interesting characters than generic white guy and his love interest
Boyega is a huge improvement over the last guy, which you were right I can't remember his name

iamzim101:

undeadsuitor:

Redryhno:

It was foreshadowed that the closing of that portal wouldn't be the end of it all though. It was essentially spelled out with "They will just keep coming". I mean, the access to Giant Robots was effectively gone at the end of the first movie too. The hangars were half destroyed and about the only people left were the scientists, the pilots, and a handful of people in the command bunkers. Not really a huge amount of people left that knew how the Jaegars were put together and maintained for it to become Gundam.

Not to mention, it's not like the Jaegars were ever even all that well-designed for Jaegar to world-power engagements to begin with. They're massive sure, but the Australians were the only ones that had anti-personnel adjacent type weapons on-board. Everything else was just big monster punchers. Like what use would 3-arm style or Gypsy's plasma gun have been when you could just launch nukes?

Idk why have tanks when we can launch nukes? Nukes don't invalidate the rest of warfare. While it's true most of the world had given up on jaegers by the start of Pacific rim, though plans don't disappear.

I think there's more to the movie than the trailer is letting on. Those very human made looking skittering robots that fuse the kaiju together at the end dobt seem like the tech that made them in the first movie.

The problem with that is that Jagers are very much a strategic level threat. Tanks are useful at a tactical level to hold ground and support troop movement. There is literally no more escalation after Jagers other than Nuclear and one could easily posit that Jagers and Nuclear weapons are on the same level.
If I had to imagine a world after Pacific rim assume the reason nukes weren't used against the kaijus were that got healed by them the Jagers would be the worlds coolest "port queens". Hardly ever taken out as the immense cost with the per hour running time would constitute very small amounts of the jager equivalent of flight hours. Not to mention they get completely superseded by Nukes in terms of cost and effectiveness. They would be kept around for about a decade or two in case of more kaijus but would have absolutely no merit otherwise other than morale in parades and such.

The thing about mecha in general is that there must be a suspension of belief required or else people don't believe it. Pacific rim worked because it didn't take it self too seriously. Trying to make it serious would just mean people would ask why they didn't just use nukes. Because if you can't hand wave away nuclear weapons with alien monsters the premise doesn't work with any amount of scrutiny.

I think your underestimating the usefulness of Jagers, and how they offer much more control than just disintegrating everything with a nuke. A Jager can stroll into a city and take out military targets while minimizing civilian deaths, and world leaders would be less shy about using them instead of nukes.
Also they would be useful in natural disasters and could potentially save a lot of lives if they are used for things other than combat

I feel about Pacific Rim much the same way I feel about Avatar: Sure, it was an okay movie but does there really neeed to be more of it? I don't think there are that many places you could go with that premise. Native Americans fighting colonialists on a strange planet. Mechs fighting monsters. Nothing wrong with either but, like, we've seen. And I'm gonna be perfectly honest here, this trailer looks like garbage. The first one was a pretty decent looking movie, most of Del Toro's movies are, but this looks like... well, saying it looks like Transformers would be a huge insult to Michael Bay. It looks like a low budget mockbuster of Transformers. Who's directing this shit?

Steven S.DeKnight. Some television guy. Of fucking course. Worked on two Joss Whedon shows, that's a red flag right there. So we have Angel, Dollhouse, Smallville and Daredevil that he's been working on as a director. This'll be sure to turn out great.

Tanis:

Here I was hoping for more of Tron...but, it's this.

So...yay?

To be honest, I'd rather have Tron 3 than Pacific Rim 2. :(

Hmm...
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PapaGreg096:
There were two things I didn't like about this trailer, one is that the mechs don't move like they are over 500 meters tall, one of the things I love about the first one is that for every movement they make you get a sense of scale and weight, here they seem to move like ninjas. Another thing is that I feel as if the Jaegers are too similar looking compared to the 1st movie.

Thats always been something i was worried about,Pacfic Rim stood out for me because it was a movie where they actually made the Giant things feel GIANT,they were slow,heavy and had a huge amount of force behind them, when they punched something it felt like a metric fuck ton of metal was smashing into something.Ill have to wait and see about the overall movie but its definitely marks down if they don't retain the weight (we have enough Anime,mecha stuff where Robots prance around like a god damm person, we dont need Pacfic Rim being added to that).

I suppose there is also the other issue,did this sequel need to exist,and if its a hit will it just be fuelling the Hollywood Corporate's stance to franchise everything or never give it a chance, because wasn't that a big point of the first one,it was a love letter to Mecha anime,creating its Own IP and look without being adapted from something while also just being a singular movie.

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