People really like Thor Ragnarok

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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/thor_ragnarok_2017/reviews

Ragnarok seems more self-aware than even Guardians of the Galaxy.

[O]ne of the boldest and most sensuous of the MCU releases... outrageously entertaining, sure to please all ages & turn Thor into a far more popular character with mainstream audiences..

Both the banter and the fighting, it should be noted, are excellent, so whether you go to superhero movies for the glossy escapism or the pulse-pounding action, you'll get your large soda's worth.

Congrats to to Taika Waititi on a film that sounds awesome and I can't wait to see.

I just watched the "What the Flick?!" review and it seems Ragnarok finally delivers a good Thor movie. I was really hoping it would be good considering how awesome the trailer was and the movie seems very in tune with the 80s vibe the trailer gave off. I doubt it'll be more self-aware that Guardians, not that it really matters much though. So yeah, I definitely can't wait to see Ragnarok when it comes out.

Looks at thread...

Okay, when was GotG self-aware? It's lighthearted, sure, but both GotG films play their tropes straight. Something like Galaxy Quest is self-aware because it's based on mocking the tropes of its genre. GotG doesn't - they're simple space adventure films.

That aside, it's good to hear. I'm mainly interested in this film because of its director (since this is the guy who directed Hunt for the Wilderpeople), but hey, if a Thor movie could actually be good, more's the pleasure.

First of all the poster for the film is abysmal. Second af all judging from the quotes it seems it is exactly the McDonalds level quality the entire Marvel film universe degrades into. Self aware for the people who come watch feel like they are intelligent for pointing out tropes, banter to please the kiddies and make new memes and mainstream audience appeal so they won't actually need to tell an interesting story.

inu-kun:
First of all the poster for the film is abysmal. Second af all judging from the quotes it seems it is exactly the McDonalds level quality the entire Marvel film universe degrades into. Self aware for the people who come watch feel like they are intelligent for pointing out tropes, banter to please the kiddies and make new memes and mainstream audience appeal so they won't actually need to tell an interesting story.

Still better than DC's formula. Dark, edgy, and depressing because that's "adult" and "deep". Also, more Jesus metaphors than the Bible.

inu-kun:
First of all the poster for the film is abysmal. Second af all judging from the quotes it seems it is exactly the McDonalds level quality the entire Marvel film universe degrades into. Self aware for the people who come watch feel like they are intelligent for pointing out tropes, banter to please the kiddies and make new memes and mainstream audience appeal so they won't actually need to tell an interesting story.

Or its entertaining and, wait for it, FUN!
That doesn't mean they won't still tell an interesting story.
Yeah i mainly go for the action and banter (and I think my girlfriend is mostly interested in shirtless Chris Hemsworth) but they still manage to tell interesting stories. Those stories feel more real because of the banter, because the characters feel more real when they can take the piss out of the situation and say "this is weird, let's fucking deal with it"
Because superheroes are weird. Thor is a literal God/alien that exists in today's world, there's gonna be some awkwardness and humor if he tries to interact with regular humans

Thor have always seemed an perplexing character in the MCU in that while he ostensibly offers the most imaginative and expansive setting for telling stories his films have always appeared strangely small in scale. Appropriate juxtaposition in the case of Thor 1, severely mediocre in the case of The Dark World.

I will say Ragnarok certainly seems to have achieved that sense of scale and "epicness" lacking in the previous films though I'm still unsure of the tone and style its adopted. Not that I doubt it will be entertaining just that it appears unoriginal... As though the only direction given was "Make this more like Guardians of the Galaxy!"

Plus I'm finding the MCUs overly flippant "any excuse for a gag" style of humour increasingly tiresome by this stage, though that's probably just me.

Oh well I'll still be checking it out soon regardless, time will tell I suppose.

I knew nothing about it until I saw the trailer. I kind of write off superhero films at the moment.

The trailer did look awesome. A proper 80s, bordering on Flash Gordon kind of vibe to it. If I did watch superhero films, this would be the one.

That saddens me but it doesn't surprise me. I bloody hate those movies.

Haters gonna hate.

DrownedAmmet:

inu-kun:
First of all the poster for the film is abysmal. Second af all judging from the quotes it seems it is exactly the McDonalds level quality the entire Marvel film universe degrades into. Self aware for the people who come watch feel like they are intelligent for pointing out tropes, banter to please the kiddies and make new memes and mainstream audience appeal so they won't actually need to tell an interesting story.

Or its entertaining and, wait for it, FUN!
That doesn't mean they won't still tell an interesting story.
Yeah i mainly go for the action and banter (and I think my girlfriend is mostly interested in shirtless Chris Hemsworth) but they still manage to tell interesting stories. Those stories feel more real because of the banter, because the characters feel more real when they can take the piss out of the situation and say "this is weird, let's fucking deal with it"
Because superheroes are weird. Thor is a literal God/alien that exists in today's world, there's gonna be some awkwardness and humor if he tries to interact with regular humans

But here's the thing, you don't need to repeat the same formula again and again for fun films. You can actually take risks and have heroes that are not a "charming rogue" archtype or have plots that can be described in mroe than one sentence. Marvel films are literally what happens when making films becomes a conveyor belt. At the start they actually gave a fuck and made films that are different than GotG.

MatParker116:

Ragnarok seems more self-aware than even Guardians of the Galaxy.

Ugh. Not sure if that's a good thing. You can wink to the audience only so many times, til someone starts to think you're having a stroke.

PsychedelicDiamond:
That saddens me but it doesn't surprise me. I bloody hate those movies.

It's never going to stop though.

inu-kun:

DrownedAmmet:

inu-kun:
First of all the poster for the film is abysmal. Second af all judging from the quotes it seems it is exactly the McDonalds level quality the entire Marvel film universe degrades into. Self aware for the people who come watch feel like they are intelligent for pointing out tropes, banter to please the kiddies and make new memes and mainstream audience appeal so they won't actually need to tell an interesting story.

Or its entertaining and, wait for it, FUN!
That doesn't mean they won't still tell an interesting story.
Yeah i mainly go for the action and banter (and I think my girlfriend is mostly interested in shirtless Chris Hemsworth) but they still manage to tell interesting stories. Those stories feel more real because of the banter, because the characters feel more real when they can take the piss out of the situation and say "this is weird, let's fucking deal with it"
Because superheroes are weird. Thor is a literal God/alien that exists in today's world, there's gonna be some awkwardness and humor if he tries to interact with regular humans

But here's the thing, you don't need to repeat the same formula again and again for fun films. You can actually take risks and have heroes that are not a "charming rogue" archtype or have plots that can be described in mroe than one sentence. Marvel films are literally what happens when making films becomes a conveyor belt. At the start they actually gave a fuck and made films that are different than GotG.

Thor isn't really the "charming rogue" archtype also I personally think that cival war is very different from GOTG

Saw the movie today.

It's fun, flashy and quite meaningless. Certainly makes the previous two movies look even duller by comparison. A colleague pointed out how the movie is basically two halves of a cutscene with a big meandering whatever in the middle - which reminds me of Yahtzee's take on Far Cry 4 - and I have to agree.

Cate is terrific as the villain but she doesn't get to do much in the plot - she makes an entrance, then essentially waits for Thor for the rest of the movie - and I think they overuse the gag where somebody's about to say something serious or do something brave, only to follow up with a snark or a pratfall. There has to be at least 30 of those.

I'm one of the few who thought the first Thor was pretty underrated and enjoyed it. Dark World was shit though.

That being said, Ragnarok looks incredibly entertaining and hope its good.

Saelune:
Haters gonna hate.

You know I've always wondered if the opposite hold true, lovers gonna love.
Like if some dudes are to be ignored simply because they weren't going to like it, regardless, are there dudes to be similarly ignored because they were going to like it, regardless?

Like I know we have fanboys, but I never see a "fanboys gonna fanboy" post...

Silentpony:

Saelune:
Haters gonna hate.

You know I've always wondered if the opposite hold true, lovers gonna love.
Like if some dudes are to be ignored simply because they weren't going to like it, regardless, are there dudes to be similarly ignored because they were going to like it, regardless?

Like I know we have fanboys, but I never see a "fanboys gonna fanboy" post...

Maybe. I cant wait for November 3.

I mean hey, I get it. Alot of people dont like the MCU. But like...why do you guys torture yourselfs? I hate MLP, I really hate it. I wish no one liked it. But that aint gonna happen, and me complaining about the MLP movie for example, wont make me like it, wont stop people who do like it from liking it, and doesnt improve the world any.

No one is dragging me to the MLP movie.

No one is dragging most of the people here to see Thor. (If you are dragged to it though and hate it, I guess you get more leeway)

It just feels like vegans complaining about how bad a chain of steakhouses are. Nothing the steakhouse can do short of closing is going to appease them.

Most of the people complaining seemed to have never liked MCU to begin with.

Natemans:
I'm one of the few who thought the first Thor was pretty underrated and enjoyed it. Dark World was shit though.

That being said, Ragnarok looks incredibly entertaining and hope its good.

Pretty much my opinion, enjoyed the first one a lot, thought Dark World was atrocious

Thought this was good, had fun watching it and it'll probably go into my dumb fun film rotation. Other half loved it but she loves everything.

In terms of specific critique there were a few things wrong but it didn't hurt overall and it helped that most of those things were at the start of the film

Loved it.

So, I had some fucked up dreams lately that was basically about cthulhu becoming part of this world and sort of engaging in battle with the avengers, though mostly iron man. It was not entertaining at all, more disturbingly horrific. Anyways, not knowing anything about Marvel canon, it was vivid enough that I was going to ask if there were any type of Lovecraftian monsters in the universe, but did an internet search instead to avoid the disappointing socialising aspect of online interaction, and lo-and-behold there is Shuma-Gorath!

I am impressed, Marvel. Makes sense that it would be a Doctor Strange story of course. Will there be a chance of an MCU appearance does anybody reckon? That would be a little too interesting to ignore. Hopefully it would look less cheesy than the art portrays however.

It even has its' 'Marital Status' archived as 'single'...phwahahahaahahahahahehehehahaah!!!! That's amazing.

Xsjadoblayde:
So, I had some fucked up dreams lately that was basically about cthulhu becoming part of this world and sort of engaging in battle with the avengers, though mostly iron man. It was not entertaining at all, more disturbingly horrific. Anyways, not knowing anything about Marvel canon, it was vivid enough that I was going to ask if there were any type of Lovecraftian monsters in the universe, but did an internet search instead to avoid the disappointing socialising aspect of online interaction, and lo-and-behold there is Shuma-Gorath!

I am impressed, Marvel. Makes sense that it would be a Doctor Strange story of course. Will there be a chance of an MCU appearance does anybody reckon? That would be a little too interesting to ignore. Hopefully it would look less cheesy than the art portrays however.

It even has its' 'Marital Status' archived as 'single'...phwahahahaahahahahahehehehahaah!!!! That's amazing.

OOH OOH!! and he's self taught!

Cycloptomese:

OOH OOH!! and he's self taught!

Xsjadoblayde:

Cycloptomese:

OOH OOH!! and he's self taught!

Not you... Shuma-Gorath

Cycloptomese:

Not you... Shuma-Gorath

What makes you under the impression we are not one and the same?

Saelune:

Silentpony:

Saelune:
Haters gonna hate.

You know I've always wondered if the opposite hold true, lovers gonna love.
Like if some dudes are to be ignored simply because they weren't going to like it, regardless, are there dudes to be similarly ignored because they were going to like it, regardless?

Like I know we have fanboys, but I never see a "fanboys gonna fanboy" post...

Maybe. I cant wait for November 3.

I mean hey, I get it. Alot of people dont like the MCU. But like...why do you guys torture yourselfs? I hate MLP, I really hate it. I wish no one liked it. But that aint gonna happen, and me complaining about the MLP movie for example, wont make me like it, wont stop people who do like it from liking it, and doesnt improve the world any.

No one is dragging me to the MLP movie.

No one is dragging most of the people here to see Thor. (If you are dragged to it though and hate it, I guess you get more leeway)

It just feels like vegans complaining about how bad a chain of steakhouses are. Nothing the steakhouse can do short of closing is going to appease them.

Most of the people complaining seemed to have never liked MCU to begin with.

Generally it goes something like: You cant be right until you've made other people believe what you believe. Mainly because clearly other people cant think for themselves so you have to tell them how wrong they are. Insert your left/right example about how bad the right/left are.

We all do it to some extent too. I do it around Ancaps, you do it with Morrowind. It also usually happens something you really care about. MLP isn't something you care enough about to make it an issue. (Put in the necessary proviso that trolls gonna troll.)

So, I saw the movie today and...it's fine. It's average. It's enjoyable. It's funny. It's...well, popcorn. Very good tasting popcorn, but at the end of the day, still popcorn. Better than the first Thor movie (course most MCU movies are), but as far as the MCU goes, it takes the #6 spot for me. So, dead centre.

Also:

Anyway, a lot of that's nitpicks. Like I said, it's popcorn.

trunkage:

Saelune:

Silentpony:

You know I've always wondered if the opposite hold true, lovers gonna love.
Like if some dudes are to be ignored simply because they weren't going to like it, regardless, are there dudes to be similarly ignored because they were going to like it, regardless?

Like I know we have fanboys, but I never see a "fanboys gonna fanboy" post...

Maybe. I cant wait for November 3.

I mean hey, I get it. Alot of people dont like the MCU. But like...why do you guys torture yourselfs? I hate MLP, I really hate it. I wish no one liked it. But that aint gonna happen, and me complaining about the MLP movie for example, wont make me like it, wont stop people who do like it from liking it, and doesnt improve the world any.

No one is dragging me to the MLP movie.

No one is dragging most of the people here to see Thor. (If you are dragged to it though and hate it, I guess you get more leeway)

It just feels like vegans complaining about how bad a chain of steakhouses are. Nothing the steakhouse can do short of closing is going to appease them.

Most of the people complaining seemed to have never liked MCU to begin with.

Generally it goes something like: You cant be right until you've made other people believe what you believe. Mainly because clearly other people cant think for themselves so you have to tell them how wrong they are. Insert your left/right example about how bad the right/left are.

We all do it to some extent too. I do it around Ancaps, you do it with Morrowind. It also usually happens something you really care about. MLP isn't something you care enough about to make it an issue. (Put in the necessary proviso that trolls gonna troll.)

But I think there is a big difference between someone who doesnt like a specific MCU movie compared to the other MCU movies versus someone who just hates all MCU movies.

Sure, if someone said they think Skyrim or Oblivion is better than Morrowind, I will argue till the cows come home, but that is different I think than if someone just hates Open World RPGS entirely, or hates The Elder Scrolls entirely. Though they might be wasting their own time if they are criticizing Morrowind for not being more like Mario Kart 8.

I just got back from watching it and yeah, I thought it was the best out of the Thor trilogy! Ironic that I seen to liked it more for the sci fi part than the mythological aspect that Thor was suppose to be?

Scarim Coral:
The plotholes I have are where is the whereabout of Sif? She was absent in the film. Was her involvement in Agent of Shield meant she had stayed on Earth sincce I didn't watched the show past episode 1?

Actress probably wanted a bunch of money.

Looked it up, Sif was apparently banished by Loki (as Odin) before the film.

It was OK although some of the effects and green screen scenes looked pretty bad for a movie of this budget.
The only Thor movie that I like.
It was pretty light hearted and quite funny.
The rock guy was the best part of the movie for me although Hulk and Goldblum were good too.
The villain was, as always, the worst part, she's evil because she's evil.
She will be forgotten like that elf dude from the last Thor movie or Ronald the McDonald or whatever his name is from the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie.
Overall, I had fun but I probably won't remember this movie in 2 weeks.

Just saw it.

It was alright, very enjoyable in fact a fun night at the movies. I'm sure most people won't have any complaints.

I didn't like how little it cared about itself or its predecessor films though.

It's a shame that the warrior three went out like chump, well for the first two. Shame there are not there when Thano come around but the cast is already huge for the Infinity War.

Yeah it was a bit of a shocker how quickly the warrior 3 went down.

The plotholes I have are where is the whereabout of Sif? She was absent in the film.

She was busy filming blacklist and couldn't meet the shooting schedule

Was her involvement in Agent of Shield meant she had stayed on Earth sincce I didn't watched the show past episode 1?

Nope, I may have missed it but as far as I can remember the movie never explained why she was absent but then again Thor didn't really seem to care about the where abouts of the warrior three either.

Also how did Hulk Quinjet ended up on Sakaar? I think the Quinjet was on Fiji and that was the place that supposely revive Phil?

I assume he flew it there, quite a few bits are taken from Planet Hulk, in that he is put on a quinjet and exiled from Earth of course he then freaks out breaks free, smashes sh*t up and the jet then crashes on Sakaar and no Phil was revived in Tahiti not Fiji, and even then Tahiti was nothing but a false memory implanted in to Phil to hide the fact that he was revived using Kree bio-medicine

I remember him saying it was magical so maybe that place teleport him to Sakaar?

Again he says that because he has been programmed to believe that the time he spent in Tahiti was 'magical' when in fact it was f*cking horrifying, seriously the scene showing how they rewired his brain is f*cking horrible.

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