Rian Johnson to create another Star Wars trilogy

http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy

The announcement of yet another Star Wars trilogy isn't a huge surprise, at least not for me. I figured this would be the case when Disney revealed they were going to crank out yearly Star Wars films until the heat death of the universe. I wasn't exactly thrilled with the prospect either...until I started reading the details.

A trilogy that's separate from the Skywalker saga, has entirely new characters and is set in a part of the galaxy that's never been explored in the lore? Well shit, that's pretty much what I've been wanting since day one of the Disney acquisition. I'm admittedly unfamiliar with Rian Johnson's work, but I know he's well-regarded by critics and the public alike. He must have impressed Lucasfilm a great deal indeed if they wanted him to head such a grand undertaking. especially when you consider that J.J. Abrams appeared to be their golden boy prior to this.

So yeah, a fourth Star Wars trilogy is on the way, and in spite of everything I find myself hopeful about its prospects.

Aside from Disney milking Star Wars, which, be honest, we all knew was going to happen deep down, I'm somewhat intrigued. I'm hoping for less space wizards and more big space battles. It's called Star Wars after all and not revolving around Force users was one of the things I like about Rogue One.

Also, please don't let everything be a thinly veiled expy of Original Trilogy stuff i.e. the adventures of Marc Ballfondler, Ham Salad, Lady Lay and Chewing Tobacco, a ragtag group of Freedom Fighter trying to bring down The Sovereignty, which has wedge-shaped space ships called Solar Annihilators and a big scary masked dude called Nacht Pater.

Come on Disney, you could at least pretend you're not going to milk Star Wars dry. I know, bantha milk is nice, tasty, and blue's my favorite colour,* but there comes a time when I want something other than milk. Kathleen Kennedy already indirectly confirmed that Rey and Finn survive post-Episode IX, so even if this is some separate trilogy, I'm already fatigued. Maybe if the films surpass Rogue One and TFA, but for me, I think Last Jedi is going to be make or break.

*Yes, blue is my favorite colour, and always has been. Even before I watched Monty Python.

But what are they going to remake if the current trilogy is a remake of the originals?

What's the current trilogy anyway? Did I miss something? I thought The Last Jedi was like... episode 8, and Rogue One didn't count because it was "A Star Wars Story" just like the Han Solo movie is "A Star Wars Story". Or they're working on a new trilogy already even though this one is only halfway there.

Zontar:
But what are they going to remake if the current trilogy is a remake of the originals?

The Star Wars Holiday Special and the two Ewok movies.

Kinda reminds me of the time Disney said they were going to make another Star Wars trilogy.

Wait, is this a block-time memory?

Wintermute:
What's the current trilogy anyway? Did I miss something? I thought The Last Jedi was like... episode 8, and Rogue One didn't count because it was "A Star Wars Story" just like the Han Solo movie is "A Star Wars Story". Or they're working on a new trilogy already even though this one is only halfway there.

Basically, with this announcement, we know that Disney is working on at least 8 films.

Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi
Star Wars Episode IX
New Trilogy Film 1
New Trilogy Film 2
New Trilogy Film 3
Solo - A Star Wars Story
Boba Fett - A Star Wars Story
Obi-Wan - A Star Wars Story

Star Wars was being "milked" from the very beginning and I find it a bit silly to complain about it. Spaceballs was making fun of that since before the prequel trilogy was made.

Star Wars always was a franchise. It always was merchandise driven. It always was a brand. It's not like they're defiling some work of great artistic integrity. They aren't making a a Sunset Boulevard Expanded Universe. They aren't making a Seventh Seal Sequel trilogy. It makes very little difference if they pay someone to churn out Expanded Universe novels or if they just hand them a budget to make actual movies because they can afford it and still make a profit.

They're continuing a space adventure serial based on watered down samurai movies and 50s dime novels. Of all the utter bullshit that had the Star Wars name to it there are people who think this is disrespectful? Get real.

Laggyteabag:

Solo - A Star Wars Story
Boba Fett - A Star Wars Story
Obi-Wan - A Star Wars Story

Disney and any Star Wars fan who openly admits to wanting to actually see a Boba Fett or Obi-Wan movie can suck my dick. All that does is send Disney the message: "Oh yes Disney! I'd quite like some more of those 40-year old characters and concepts, thank you! No new stuff please, I want to stay in my bubble of nostalgia for all eternity. No need to do anything fresh or interesting."

OT: If those film concepts hold true, then I'm fine with it. Ditch absolutely everything we've seen before. No more scrappy underdogs from desert planets, jedi, star destroyers, planet-sized superweapons, lightsabers, the Force or oppressive galaxy-spanning dictatorships. Give us space pirates, or a smuggler who actually smuggles shit. Show us the workings of the galactic high society through someone more exciting than a bucket of dried paint. Show space exploration on the far fringes. Give us genuinely alien aliens and worlds. Does the SW universe have any religions?

Chimpzy:
Also, please don't let everything be a thinly veiled expy of Original Trilogy stuff i.e. the adventures of Marc Ballfondler, Ham Salad, Lady Lay and Chewing Tobacco, a ragtag group of Freedom Fighter trying to bring down The Sovereignty, which has wedge-shaped space ships called Solar Annihilators and a big scary masked dude called Nacht Pater.

Oh god my sides

I heard this and I just sighed. It just made me tired. I used to love Star Wars, and back in the day, whenever a new book was announced, I went nuts. When Disney announced a new trilogy (the first one) I was excited, but I already had the nagging fear that I would burn out.
And hearing that they're already working on a new trilogy, when the current one isn't even finished and they're still struggling with the Han Solo movie--just makes me think of all the years in the future. It wears me out. How much am I going to have to keep current on, when the timeline that we're currently in isn't even fleshed out yet? It's just...too much.

bartholen:

Does the SW universe have any religions?

Not sure about the new lore, but in the Expanded Universe there were a few. One that pops into my mind is the Yuuzhan Vong. They were religious fanatics.

Zontar:
But what are they going to remake if the current trilogy is a remake of the originals?

A remake of a remake? and then will they remake the remake of the remake? it's the dream within a dream within a dream, except remake replaces dream!

Chimpzy:

Zontar:
But what are they going to remake if the current trilogy is a remake of the originals?

The Star Wars Holiday Special and the two Ewok movies.

Don't say that! They might hear you and do it!

bartholen:
Does the SW universe have any religions?

The blind dude in Rogue One was "religious" I think.

bartholen:
Does the SW universe have any religions?

The Mandalorians are quite devout. They worship battle and pray by killing.

So here's something for all you guys to ponder. The Star Wars EU has had SO many authors crank out title after title for it and I don't recall anyone ever saying, "Stop. We don't need anymore books in the EU." But when Disney starts giving the go ahead for a bunch of films for Star Wars, suddenly it's milking the franchise. And we're not even talking about all the Star Wars games that were made before Disney came along either.

bartholen:
Does the SW universe have any religions?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Religions

Arnoxthe1:
So here's something for all you guys to ponder. The Star Wars EU has had SO many authors crank out title after title for it and I don't recall anyone ever saying, "Stop. We don't need anymore books in the EU." But when Disney starts giving the go ahead for a bunch of films for Star Wars, suddenly it's milking the franchise. And we're not even talking about all the Star Wars games that were made before Disney came along either.

It's a fair question. But speaking personally, here's my response:

1) There was a clear divide between the EU and films. The films, 3-6 of them (depending on how you felt) could stand on their own. There was no need to continue from Return of the Jedi. That said, if you did want post-Jedi stuff, the EU was there for you. My EU stuff was primarily prequel era (in that I found it the more interesting setting), but even that aside, Star Wars was in a good position to have it both ways.

2) The EU was nuked by Disney for its new films. That's a pretty bitter pill to swallow. It's not the only franchise that's had this kind of thing done to it, but, yeah. If the EU was 'milking' the old films, those films still existed. The new milking is predicated on taking the old cows round back and shooting them before presenting us with new cows and expecting us to love them just as much.

3) The new EU aside, I can't call either TFA or Rogue One good films. The EU, on the other hand, gave me plenty of stuff I would call good. Also, if they're both milking, there's something far more cynical about TFA than the EU, as TFA sets up a vague status quo (New Republic), but has effectively reverted to an old status quo by the film's end (Empire = First Order, Rebellion = Resistance). TFA is a giant reset button at the end of the day.

So, in answer, both the EU and Disney-era Star Wars 'milked' the franchise, but the milking Disney has been doing has so far been far more cynical, and of lower quality (at least for me personally).

Please let them make a trilogy for 'I, Jedi'. Please let them make a trilogy for 'I, Jedi'.
Please let them make a trilogy for 'I, Jedi'. Please let them make a trilogy for 'I, Jedi'.
Please let them make a trilogy for 'I, Jedi'. Please let them make a trilogy for 'I, Jedi'.

That's all I'm asking.
The book is fantastic and we could use a little more 'everyman jedi'.

Sure, part of it would have to be reworked because...this version of Luke is a failure, but the bones to a great film are still there.

Laggyteabag:
Basically, with this announcement, we know that Disney is working on at least 8 films.

Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi
Star Wars Episode IX
New Trilogy Film 1
New Trilogy Film 2
New Trilogy Film 3
Solo - A Star Wars Story
Boba Fett - A Star Wars Story
Obi-Wan - A Star Wars Story

Given that they're planning to put out a movie every year, with "A Star Wars Story" every other year, there's clearly a gap. Wonder what it's going to be? Anyway, yeah, they're probably doing pre-production planning for a decade out, so that's not unrealistic at all.

Hawki:
It's a fair question. But speaking personally, here's my response:

1) There was a clear divide between the EU and films. The films, 3-6 of them (depending on how you felt) could stand on their own. There was no need to continue from Return of the Jedi. That said, if you did want post-Jedi stuff, the EU was there for you. My EU stuff was primarily prequel era (in that I found it the more interesting setting), but even that aside, Star Wars was in a good position to have it both ways.

2) The EU was nuked by Disney for its new films. That's a pretty bitter pill to swallow. It's not the only franchise that's had this kind of thing done to it, but, yeah. If the EU was 'milking' the old films, those films still existed. The new milking is predicated on taking the old cows round back and shooting them before presenting us with new cows and expecting us to love them just as much.

3) The new EU aside, I can't call either TFA or Rogue One good films. The EU, on the other hand, gave me plenty of stuff I would call good. Also, if they're both milking, there's something far more cynical about TFA than the EU, as TFA sets up a vague status quo (New Republic), but has effectively reverted to an old status quo by the film's end (Empire = First Order, Rebellion = Resistance). TFA is a giant reset button at the end of the day.

So, in answer, both the EU and Disney-era Star Wars 'milked' the franchise, but the milking Disney has been doing has so far been far more cynical, and of lower quality (at least for me personally).

Well I guess that's the question. Whether you agree with the latest Star Wars offerings or not. I know some full Star Wars fans that are actually happy that the EU got axed. Personally, I don't think they could have won with this decision really. Either they kept it and would have to be railroaded into whatever some random author wrote, while also coming under fire for not staying true enough to the books, or even sticking too closely to them, or they just kick it off and do their own thing.

I hope it's an Old Republic trilogy that incorporates Revan in some way.

Laggyteabag:

Wintermute:
What's the current trilogy anyway? Did I miss something? I thought The Last Jedi was like... episode 8, and Rogue One didn't count because it was "A Star Wars Story" just like the Han Solo movie is "A Star Wars Story". Or they're working on a new trilogy already even though this one is only halfway there.

Basically, with this announcement, we know that Disney is working on at least 8 films.

Star Wars Episode VIII - The Last Jedi
Star Wars Episode IX
New Trilogy Film 1
New Trilogy Film 2
New Trilogy Film 3
Solo - A Star Wars Story
Boba Fett - A Star Wars Story
Obi-Wan - A Star Wars Story

Bat Vader:
I hope it's an Old Republic trilogy that incorporates Revan in some way.

That'd be fun.

Greatly doubt it, but it'd be fun.

I'm going to be honest, I just want my Star Wars Heist Movie and then I'll be happy

Arnoxthe1:
So here's something for all you guys to ponder. The Star Wars EU has had SO many authors crank out title after title for it and I don't recall anyone ever saying, "Stop. We don't need anymore books in the EU." But when Disney starts giving the go ahead for a bunch of films for Star Wars, suddenly it's milking the franchise. And we're not even talking about all the Star Wars games that were made before Disney came along either.

I suspect the difference is that most people didn't read the mostly godawful Star Wars EU books or even know they existed. As for games, there have been a few popular ones but they were fairly well spread out or made a while ago.

See, I would be fine if The Force Awakens wasnt a shitty remake of A New Hope. If this upcoming film isnt a shitty remake and actually does something interesting, I might switch to optimistic. If not, then not.

PsychedelicDiamond:
Star Wars was being "milked" from the very beginning and I find it a bit silly to complain about it. Spaceballs was making fun of that since before the prequel trilogy was made.

Star Wars always was a franchise. It always was merchandise driven. It always was a brand. It's not like they're defiling some work of great artistic integrity.

I still think SW has a semblance of integrity in the originals and the new trilogy, but yes, the essence of SW is, ostensibly, exploitation and capitalisation. As long as we get enjoyable and/or well crafted enough films from that well, I'm fine with it.

SW stopped being 'special', or sacred, decades ago.

Personally, my angle's more just this; it's probably impossible to ever make a worse SW film than anything in the prequels, especially Phantom, and so I've no real hopes or desires to be dashed. Disney are lucky the benchmark was smashed into the ground by the prequels, and so they're almost guaranteed - in my eyes - to make decent SW entries.

Bat Vader:
I hope it's an Old Republic trilogy that incorporates Revan in some way.

I hope it's not Old Republic. I hope they never go that far back. New corner of the galaxy sounds interesting. But it's years away, so don't care.

This might actually make me a Star Wars fan. I hate Star Wars because I hate the characters. Thus, a writer/director I think is good making a Star Wars trilogy with new characters/races sounds like it could be something I might like.

I'm down to see Darth Revan, or the old republic in theatres.
That crashing the jedi temple trailer was dope, and the only thing Thor 2 ripped off well.

Also super down for something new. A series following imperials, or like a scoundrel type character. Or a space engineer type trying to find his girlfriend, lost almost entirely alone on a seemingly dead ship infested with rakghouls.

bartholen:

Laggyteabag:

Solo - A Star Wars Story
Boba Fett - A Star Wars Story
Obi-Wan - A Star Wars Story

Disney and any Star Wars fan who openly admits to wanting to actually see a Boba Fett or Obi-Wan movie can suck my dick.

I ain't gonna suck your dick, but honestly I wouldn't mind an Obi-Wan film if, and ONLY IF, they bring back Ewan McGregor for the role. He was pretty much the only good thing about the prequels and would like to see him reprise the role. Some story set between episodes 3 and 4. If they go for anything else, then I'm not really interested. And I really don't care about a Boba Fett movie.

PsychedelicDiamond:
Star Wars was being "milked" from the very beginning and I find it a bit silly to complain about it. Spaceballs was making fun of that since before the prequel trilogy was made.

This is kind of true, actually. I mean, there were toys and tie-ins galore back in the day but many of us don't remember them because we weren't around then. I cut my gaming teeth on loads of Star Wars computer games. I remember getting a compilation pack of like 10 of them for Xmas when I was a kid. Rebel Assault II was hard as balls and Dark Forces was stupid fun. Hell, I just recently bought Star Wars for Famicom and it's about as ridiculous as you'd expect.

Anyway, I like Rian Johnson's films generally but I'll wait to reserve judgement until after The Last Jedi comes out to see if he has the chops to pull off more. I've never been a massive Star Wars guy (despite playing the aforementioned games, my moniker here and just about everyone I know calling me Chewy) but I've still seen them all and they all right for the most part. The new ones have been not so bad. So yeah, whatevs. Not that surprising.

Pallindromemordnillap:
I'm going to be honest, I just want my Star Wars Heist Movie and then I'll be happy

Making a genre film set in the Star Wars universe is actually a pretty appealing idea. Kind of like how Logan was a road movie at its core, and all the more refreshing for it.

 

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