So is the Escapist dead?

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Because I can't remember the last time an actual news article was posted.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community

Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" if anyone was wondering).

Another Escapist is dead thread. Must be yesterday. And today. And tomorrow.

It is dead. Yet it lives.

It's basically a bloated corpse floating down a river. From far away it looks like someone taking a swim!

Dead?! Ha! Far from it! The Escapist can never die! Like a man involved in multiple car collisions, it may be quadriplegic, unable to breath without the aid of volunteers, and non-functional, but it can never truely die!

As long as we love and cherish it, can it ever truly die?

tippy2k2:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community

Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" if anyone was wondering).

Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.

HK_01:

tippy2k2:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community

Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" if anyone was wondering).

Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.

Because this site was tainted and became damaged goods after Gamergate. That's why.

tippy2k2:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community

Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" if anyone was wondering).

Any reason why you guys lost access? Was it something a disgruntled Frappe did while he was burning bridges and deleting everything? Or is it something Defy did?

There is always hope. There is a light that exists eternal.

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HK_01:

Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.

My take is that GamerGate hit the Escapist pretty hard, in that the Escapist was one of the few websites that didn't disavow GG entirely. In the wake of GG the Escapist lost several of its' high profile content producers (whether it was because of GG is anyone's guess). To compensate the Escapist tried to ride that goodwill with the GamerGate supporters by hiring several new contributors that were vocal GG supporters and attempted to broaden the Escapist from just gaming into everything gaming related including Cosplay and Comics. These new contributors did not, apparently, get enough traffic and the diversification plan fell through, so the Escapist slowly bled out over the course of 2015-2017.

And here we are today. Not so much because a conscious decision was made to pull the plug, but because many small decisions led to ever worse situations for the Escapist.

Gethsemani:

HK_01:

Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.

My take is that GamerGate hit the Escapist pretty hard, in that the Escapist was one of the few websites that didn't disavow GG entirely. In the wake of GG the Escapist lost several of its' high profile content producers (whether it was because of GG is anyone's guess). To compensate the Escapist tried to ride that goodwill with the GamerGate supporters by hiring several new contributors that were vocal GG supporters and attempted to broaden the Escapist from just gaming into everything gaming related including Cosplay and Comics. These new contributors did not, apparently, get enough traffic and the diversification plan fell through, so the Escapist slowly bled out over the course of 2015-2017.

And here we are today. Not so much because a conscious decision was made to pull the plug, but because many small decisions led to ever worse situations for the Escapist.

Plus Yahtzee what's totes a GGer. Just ask Sargon.

When people ask, "Don't pick side. Don't be political. Be a centrist. Be impartial" this site will be exhibit A of why not. Its actually the reason why I stay. Most people don't want to be challenged

Gethsemani:

HK_01:

Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.

My take is that GamerGate hit the Escapist pretty hard, in that the Escapist was one of the few websites that didn't disavow GG entirely. In the wake of GG the Escapist lost several of its' high profile content producers (whether it was because of GG is anyone's guess). To compensate the Escapist tried to ride that goodwill with the GamerGate supporters by hiring several new contributors that were vocal GG supporters and attempted to broaden the Escapist from just gaming into everything gaming related including Cosplay and Comics. These new contributors did not, apparently, get enough traffic and the diversification plan fell through, so the Escapist slowly bled out over the course of 2015-2017.

And here we are today. Not so much because a conscious decision was made to pull the plug, but because many small decisions led to ever worse situations for the Escapist.

Further to this, there is a general change in the way the public consumes geek culture; 10 years ago, youtube was kind of new, had little quality control, and could take you a while to find someone good, so you could use video aggregator sites like The Escapist or Channel Awesome to do that work for you. Unfortunately, besides the quality control issues (both sites bloated with some really terrible series), patreon and the incremental development of youtube has made it much easier for video creators to sustain themselves; they don't need a big website to find them an audience or pay them. Meanwhile, consumers would rather just go to their favourite youtuber's channel than to a website where they have to brush past all the content they don't care about. The Escapist put a lot of stock in videos, and unfortunately that's the one thing that's moved on. Other gaming sites tend to focus on articles or reviews more, which still benefit from being tied to a big recognisable brand, and they've faired a little better.

IceForce:

tippy2k2:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community

Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" if anyone was wondering).

Any reason why you guys lost access? Was it something a disgruntled Frappe did while he was burning bridges and deleting everything? Or is it something Defy did?

Because DEFY is a bag full of smelly butts? :D

Serious answer though, we don't know. Someone from DEFY may have drunkenly stumbled in and saw a bunch of names they didn't recognize and dumped them or hell, it may have been automated (like whatever is causing the quote system to die every Sunday). Personally, I'm more inclined to believe it was an automated function (whether it was supposed to happen or just another sign of the site falling apart is up for debate) but that's just my opinion.

One thing I am 100% confident in is that it wasn't a disgruntled CF. While I may be very irked with how CF decided to leave, that is something I would never ever see him do.

Ultimately though, it's all guesswork as we have no idea what actually happened and I doubt we ever will (see butts, smelly above).

Oddly, hadn't had a thread about the Escapist dying for a bit. Maybe those are dying off as well.

Thaluikhain:
Oddly, hadn't had a thread about the Escapist dying for a bit. Maybe those are dying off as well.

What is there to say?

Yes, the site is dying.
Yes, everyone knows it.
No, when it dies the community will probably not migrate elsewhere and will just dissolve.
No, there's nothing anyone can really do.

As sad as it is it's just the way things are. The only time people talk about it is when someone who's been off the site for a while jumps back in and gets confused.

IceForce:

HK_01:

tippy2k2:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.1024592-An-Open-Letter-to-The-Escapist-Community

Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" if anyone was wondering).

Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.

Because this site was tainted and became damaged goods after Gamergate. That's why.

Though to be honest there were some behind the scenes issues going on with the site even before Gamergate became a hot button topic to discuss. I mean the whole Extra Credits scandal and a bunch of writers and contributors not getting paid comes to mind.

tippy2k2:
Although even the letter is partially outdated as the Community Content is essentially dead in the water as most of us have lost our ability to post news and articles (which is why I stopped doing the "New Game Releases" if anyone was wondering).

What's stopping ya from posting those in the Gaming Discussion thread? I missed those threads :c

It essentially on life support right now waiting for someone to finally pull the plug for good.

I just joined and find Escapist one of the most interesting societies available online.Please keep it on.

Canadamus Prime:
It essentially on life support right now waiting for someone to finally pull the plug for good.

I suppose that'll be when Yahtzee stops getting paid by the site, and goes Jimdependent.

Nile McMorrow:

IceForce:

HK_01:

Does anyone know why the Escapist was gutted like this? It seemed to me to be one of the most well-known videogaming-related sites with some of the best content producers out there, so why was it decided to let everyone go, stop producing everything except the flagship format and let the site itself rot? It just seems like such a strange decision.

Because this site was tainted and became damaged goods after Gamergate. That's why.

Though to be honest there were some behind the scenes issues going on with the site even before Gamergate became a hot button topic to discuss. I mean the whole Extra Credits scandal and a bunch of writers and contributors not getting paid comes to mind.

From what I understand this had more to do with it than anything. Nobody but me bothers with this shit because its stupid and boring but every Wednesday I use up all the new porn on the internet and have nothing to do. Basically if you slowly track back through the content, more than 3/4 of all the shows were cancelled or not renewed due to finances. Some were big kabooms like extra credits, others were a lot quieter like llr or the webcomics, but whether it was dropping interest in video aggregator sites or low investments, the escapist appears to have been slowly leaking money for some time. I'm sure there are plenty of contributing factors but personally I think youtubes improving usability and increasing market share lines up well with the escapists decline.

If you're still able to make threads and post in them the site is not dead. Once that ability goes away then the site is indeed dead.

Zaydin:
Because I can't remember the last time an actual news article was posted.

It's in a coma.

Zaydin:
Because I can't remember the last time an actual news article was posted.

Yes, almost. All they have is Yahtzee and i rarely even watch his show anymore as he has grown stale. I watch when its a game im interested in. When he leaves then this place is dead. Now days i just look at whatever forums questions are on the front page, if nothing interesting then i leave. Its a shame, this was the place i came to every day of the week for its content like JIm, Bob etc. Was entertained every day with good content but no more.

Fappy:
It's basically a bloated corpse floating down a river. From far away it looks like someone taking a swim!

Fappy won the thread.

Marik2:
It's in a coma.

And now it's just Monika

Waiting for the day that escapistmagazine.com redirects to either their Twitch stream or their YouTube channel.

notcy:
I just joined and find Escapist one of the most interesting societies available online.Please keep it on.

Welcome. Hope you enjoy yourself on here.

I don't think anyone is being paid by the parent company (DEFY media) anymore. There are a some very giving souls who are giving up their time to keep this site a going

Mangod:

Canadamus Prime:
It essentially on life support right now waiting for someone to finally pull the plug for good.

I suppose that'll be when Yahtzee stops getting paid by the site, and goes Jimdependent.

That's pretty much it. Whenever Yatzee's contract runs out this place is gone.

I'm honestly starting to wonder which is more likely to die first, Keith Richards or The Escapist.

The 'Pist is like PC gaming: Drifting in a netherworld between life and death, kept torturously tethered to the world by devoted idiots.

Hmmm, I came by to see how The Escapist was doing these days and this is the top thread :\

notcy:
I just joined and find Escapist one of the most interesting societies available online. Please keep it on.

Unfortunately there's nothing anyone can do to keep it going. The owners of this site - Defy Media - have essentially dropped all support for it. They don't give a shit about it and any attempts to reach them have been met with silence. The only reason it's still alive is Yahtzee and once that's gone... welp.

That said, the site has been holding on remarkably well, all things considered. People have been already talking about its death back in 2015 and yet it's still going. I don't have any hope that it'll ever get back on its feet, but I'd say it still has at least a year left. So, enjoy it while you can :P.

Just came to check in... profound sadness.

Gonna miss you guys.

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