Mr Plinkett Last Jedi Review

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Enjoy

I haven't watched it yet but I disagree with it, just out of principle.

PsychedelicDiamond:
I haven't watched it yet but I disagree with it, just out of principle.

Fuckin' A.

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Always down for these.

If only other youtube movie reviewers stop copying this guy. Like this guy for example.

The Last Jedi is the most dissapointing thing since Han's son.

PsychedelicDiamond:
I haven't watched it yet but I disagree with it, just out of principle.

Have you ever agreed with any review he's made? I tend to agree with him 80% of the time.

Samtemdo8:
If only other youtube movie reviewers stop copying this guy. Like this guy for example.

I couldn't even finish that one. Boring af.

Anyway, Plinkett's prequel reviews were cool back in the day.

Yeah, it's a good breakdown of what's wrong with this movie. Doesn't stop it from being another video adding to the dogpile.

reviews so late the sequel is almost out

Casual Shinji:
Yeah, it's a good breakdown of what's wrong with this movie. Doesn't stop it from being another video adding to the dogpile.

I disagree, given the fact they come at this from the perspective of film creators rather then critics or fans like the other big names from all this (E;R, MauLer and the like) they manage to add a new perspective to it all in ripping this turd apart.

Zontar:

Casual Shinji:
Yeah, it's a good breakdown of what's wrong with this movie. Doesn't stop it from being another video adding to the dogpile.

I disagree, given the fact they come at this from the perspective of film creators rather then critics or fans like the other big names from all this (E;R, MauLer and the like) they manage to add a new perspective to it all in ripping this turd apart.

lets see

weird tonal swings only compounded by most of the deleted scenes being comedy

"subverting expectations"

casino planet bad

characters boring

they didn't mention anything anyone else hasn't already mentioned (including themselves in their actual review), this is just a comedy video where they say the same talking points in a different voice

I love RLM, but this is pretty dated no matter how much you have to justify how bad the movie was to cover up the fact that it triggered you

Silentpony:

PsychedelicDiamond:
I haven't watched it yet but I disagree with it, just out of principle.

Lol

Still better than Force Awakens

Marik2:

PsychedelicDiamond:
I haven't watched it yet but I disagree with it, just out of principle.

Have you ever agreed with any review he's made? I tend to agree with him 80% of the time.

Yes, actually, I don't see anything wrong with his review of the Ghostbusters remake. I absolutely agreed with it.

Other than that, the prequel reviews are very well realized but I can't say that I find them very insightful. When it comes to RLM, the thing is that the only one with good taste is Jay. Mike is a funny guy but his taste just doesn't align with mine most of the time and I don't think it's good enough for him to act as elitist as he sometimes does.

I thought this was the weakest Plinkett review tbh.

Felt very aimless and nitpicky the first half until it finally got a better point in the second half.

I loved Last Jedi and was willing to give this a chance, but I found it a disappointing mixed bag.

Samtemdo8:
If only other youtube movie reviewers stop copying this guy. Like this guy for example.

I thought that video was much better than the Plinkett review. And I say this as a Red Letter Media fan.

Natemans:
I thought this was the weakest Plinkett review tbh.

Felt very aimless and nitpicky the first half until it finally got a better point in the second half.

I loved Last Jedi and was willing to give this a chance, but I found it a disappointing mixed bag.

Yeah same here to be honest- there wasn't much of the classic Plinkett humour in it which was a pity. But I guess that's the case when the film doesn't give him as much to work with as the Prequels did.

Didn't really change my opinion on TLJ either- still thought it was a good film.

undeadsuitor:

Zontar:

Casual Shinji:
Yeah, it's a good breakdown of what's wrong with this movie. Doesn't stop it from being another video adding to the dogpile.

I disagree, given the fact they come at this from the perspective of film creators rather then critics or fans like the other big names from all this (E;R, MauLer and the like) they manage to add a new perspective to it all in ripping this turd apart.

lets see

weird tonal swings only compounded by most of the deleted scenes being comedy

"subverting expectations"

casino planet bad

characters boring

they didn't mention anything anyone else hasn't already mentioned (including themselves in their actual review), this is just a comedy video where they say the same talking points in a different voice

I love RLM, but this is pretty dated no matter how much you have to justify how bad the movie was to cover up the fact that it triggered you

To cut him some slack, Mr. Pinkett was also far from the first to point out that Jar Jar Binks wasn't very funny or that the romance between Padme and Anakin was awkward or that "Only the Sith deal in absolutes" is, indeed, an absolute. On the contrary, the prequels acted as punching bags for pedantic dweebs for much longer than Last Jedi has.

Mr. Pinkett was just the first to make multiple two hour videos on them where he repeats these complaints in a funny voice. And I'll say it again, they'really well realized videos with some great jokes but they didn't add a new critical perspective on these movies.

Mike Stoklasa is still better at it than someone like MauLer, whose pedantic nitpicking I had trouble taking seriously even before he turned around to shower a mediocre hackjob like Infinity War with praise or E;R, who I can't listen to for more than two minutes without wanting to stuff him into a locker. Though I'm sure he did a fine job pointing out which of the producers are jewish ( I'm sorry, gem-ish, as his only point of reference seem to be cartoons for grade schoolers) in a totally not racist way.

Natemans:
I thought this was the weakest Plinkett review tbh.

I don't know if the weakest but nothing gets my eyes rolling faster than Mike turning to Star Trek for good examples of anything.

undeadsuitor:
reviews so late the sequel is almost out

Looks like they took more time writing their script for this review than was spent on the script for The Last Jedi.

undeadsuitor:
I love RLM, but this is pretty dated no matter how much you have to justify how bad the movie was to cover up the fact that it triggered you

The Plinkett reviews have kind of lost their place, since Half in the Bag has been filling that spot for years now.

This is still a more enjoyable video to watch than any of the other ones YouTube gets flooded with though.

At least they were honest about the flaws in TLJ unlike their """review""" of The Farce Awakens. Guess they must have cut back on the soy and avocados for this review.

Anyhow, they brought up some good points regarding the plotholes and admiral Bitcheyov's stupidity, and overall I enjoyed it. Personally though, I'm more a fan of Voxis Productions and Hackfraudmedia because they'll call a Mary Sue a "Mary Sue" when they see it.

Natemans:
I thought this was the weakest Plinkett review tbh.

Felt very aimless and nitpicky the first half until it finally got a better point in the second half.

I loved Last Jedi and was willing to give this a chance, but I found it a disappointing mixed bag.

I thought this one was a lot better than the TFA review, which hardly even talked about TFA. I was kind of hoping he'd really tear into that movie. I still feel like I'm one of the only people who thought TFA was extremely mediocre and boring.

PsychedelicDiamond:
I haven't watched it yet but I disagree with it, just out of principle.

I'm with you on this. I despise Red Letter Media.

I'm sure I'll get to Plinket later but for now I just wanna say, as someone who actually LIKED the Last Jedi, I would refer you to this review by one Shaun of Shaun and Jen fame.

I honestly do encourage people to watch this one. I welcome other opinions too but it might be nice to hear counter arguments beyond the screeching 'FEMINAZI SJWS TURNED MY STAR WARS INTO BETA MALE SOY AND IT CUCKED MY CHILDHOOD WITH AN INTERRACIAL GAY TRANSEXUAL PENIS' chorus that is my fucking youtube suggested feed any time this movie comes up.

HK_01:

Natemans:
I thought this was the weakest Plinkett review tbh.

Felt very aimless and nitpicky the first half until it finally got a better point in the second half.

I loved Last Jedi and was willing to give this a chance, but I found it a disappointing mixed bag.

I thought this one was a lot better than the TFA review, which hardly even talked about TFA.

That's because Mike liked TFA. So he spent most of the video explaining what makes TFA better than prequels in comparison.

He certainly didn't like Last Jedi, and that's why i'm hoping for this review to be better.

Vrex360:
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Ah yes, the socialist take on the whole thing. ;^) Anyway, Shauns's and Plinkett's reviews don't touch too many of the same topics about the movie. The main difference in opinions is in how Shaun explains the Resistance's dumbfuckery: 1) Regardless of it making sense it's not too different from the originals. 2) It was a fun romp or an important arc for the characters. Compared to Plinkett: 1) Contrived and dumb, because Johnson didn't think his script through all the way. 2) "A comedy of errors." Now which one is more right depends on what one criticizes or embraces movies for.

Also about the "wokeness" of the characters in TLJ in comparison to the jedi supposedly being bad people in the prequels. The jedi are supposed to be servants of the force. It's not their way to get emotional and start freeing slaves or start revolutions or whatever. They were far from their true purpose in the last days of the Republic, that's for sure. In the Legends books Luke tries to build a better Jedi Order, but this is obviously absent from TLJ, because it would be in the decades before TFA.

Personally I find the casino gig rather embarrassing. If the "one business that gets you this rich" was licensed movie merchandise, now that would be something.

McElroy:

Personally I find the casino gig rather embarrassing. If the "one business that gets you this rich" was licensed movie merchandise, now that would be something.

It was painful is what it was. There are plenty of businesses that make you richer. Those include but are not limited to:

-Agriculture
-Energy (electricity or fuel)
-Logistics
-Retail
-Finance
-Pharmaceuticals
-Civilian ship construction (which is insanely larger then military ship construction in terms of value)
-Telecommunication
- Propaganda Entertainment and news media
-Mining
-Private higher education
-Manufacturing

And so much more. It's made even more painful when you look at the "point" Rian was trying to make about dealers selling to both sides, which is a fictional thing that Hollywood made up because nothing loses you all your customers (and also puts your life at risk) faster then dealing with both sides of a conflict. That's stuff governments do, but not weapons dealers. Weapons dealers who pull that shit don't last long.

Vrex360:
I'm sure I'll get to Plinket later but for now I just wanna say, as someone who actually LIKED the Last Jedi, I would refer you to this review by one Shaun of Shaun and Jen fame.

I honestly do encourage people to watch this one. I welcome other opinions too but it might be nice to hear counter arguments beyond the screeching 'FEMINAZI SJWS TURNED MY STAR WARS INTO BETA MALE SOY AND IT CUCKED MY CHILDHOOD WITH AN INTERRACIAL GAY TRANSEXUAL PENIS' chorus that is my fucking youtube suggested feed any time this movie comes up.

While I agree with his points, that still doesn't change the fact that TLJ is a boring movie and that it's at least half an hour longer than it should have been. Even if everything about the story and characters makes sense, it remains boring to watch. The scenes simply aren't entertaining, most of the characters are boring and they do boring stuff. And don't get me started on the forced Disney "humor". It doesn't work at all. It just makes matters worse because it keeps disrupting the tone that the movie is desperately trying to set. Humor in this movie is essentially like a very annoying heckler. I'm seriously starting to think that Disney has some kind of quota of "funny" lines and moments that every movie must have. That's how fuckin' forced the "jokes" feel in this movie.

Adam Jensen:
And don't get me started on the forced Disney "humor". It doesn't work at all. It just makes matters worse because it keeps disrupting the tone that the movie is desperately trying to set. Humor in this movie is essentially like a very annoying heckler. I'm seriously starting to think that Disney has some kind of quota of "funny" lines and moments that every movie must have. That's how fuckin' forced the "jokes" feel in this movie.

I blame the MCU and its Buffy Speak/overgrown-teen "humor".

SW has been shit since RotJ. Also Rogue One and TFA are better than the prequels. And TLJ wasn't as shit as most of the prequels.

Vrex360:
I honestly do encourage people to watch this one. I welcome other opinions too but it might be nice to hear counter arguments beyond the screeching 'FEMINAZI SJWS TURNED MY STAR WARS INTO BETA MALE SOY AND IT CUCKED MY CHILDHOOD WITH AN INTERRACIAL GAY TRANSEXUAL PENIS' chorus that is my fucking youtube suggested feed any time this movie comes up.

Okay, fine. How about this one.

Johnson's writing of both Leia and Holdo betray a vastly deeper-seeded misogyny than even is accused of those who criticize the film. Leia is an accomplished, galactically-famous, stateswoman, diplomat, and strategist with decades of experience, and Holdo as we're straight-up told in the movie, even though we've never seen her to this point, is a decorated and celebrated veteran military commander and strategist.

So naturally, Leia slaps Poe right in plain view of the entire command deck, chewing him out for taking out the dreadnought. Sure, Leia is well within her rights and (at that point) completely vindicated in tearing his ass from one bulkhead to another and demoting him, but you do it in private and you do not assault subordinates. You know, because it's damaging to morale and fosters distrust in the lower ranks.

And, seconds later, Poe is completely vindicated when the whole damn First Order fleet jumps out of hyperspace hot on their trail, and had that dreadnought still been around they wouldn't have stood a chance.

This is a fact that should not have been lost on Holdo, who is as described above, which should have proven the quality of Poe's gut instinct along with his past service record with the Resistance. So naturally, Holdo proceeds to give Poe the stink-eye when he tries to give her a basic situation report -- something she would have actually needed, given her flag was on the Ninka and transferred to the Raddus when Leia was incapacitated -- and at least dresses him down in (semi)-private, and sidelines him despite still being the senior flight officer who had a lot of trust and respect among the Raddus' crew.

Then, Holdo tells no one her plan to cruise to Crait and sacrifice the Raddus to screen for the evacuation craft. This is despite her knowing full well the First Order was tracking the vessels directly, and that there was no tracking device aboard the vessels nor any security leaks. Not even her own senior staff, apparently.

Literally all that had to happen was for Holdo to take Poe aside and basically say "you're a hot headed flyboy and I don't like your type. But, you have this crew's trust and respect, they need your leadership, and I need you on my side to help keep their morale up. Our only play is to cruise in normal space to Crait, abandon ship, and shelter in place. I'm keeping this information limited to senior staff because it will devastate morale, but this keeps us alive. People are counting on us, and it's time for you to step up and be a leader outside the cockpit. Get to work."

They could even have done it off-screen, showed Poe not being a jackass, saved the film a good 45 minutes of filler content and give Finn and Rose something to do meaningful to the plot, and then once they abandoned the Raddus showed Holdo's and Poe's conversation as a flashback to maintain the "subversion!".

Rose gets a pass as far as I'm concerned. She's grieving her sister's loss, and grief makes people do stupid shit. I would personally have preferred a story arc for her that involves her and Finn staying on board the Raddus doing techy stuff like what their characters are, and her working through her grief and even confronting Poe about how his "misguided" attack on the dreadnought got her sister killed, which would have been a character-defining moment for all three characters.

Now look, I'm not advocating turning Star Wars into a full-on military sci-fi. But the bottom line is the franchise deals with military and paramilitary powers, so maybe take that into consideration when writing militaristic characters. There was no logical reason for Leia or Holdo to do any of the shit they did early on, that set later events in motion. Period.

I know the hot shit is to accuse people of calling out these characters misogynist. But I'm cantankerous ass and dead-set on going against the grain. The question I want answered, is why are the women characters the exclusive designated idiot ball carriers throughout the entire movie?

Eacaraxe:

Now look, I'm not advocating turning Star Wars into a full-on military sci-fi. But the bottom line is the franchise deals with military and paramilitary powers, so maybe take that into consideration when writing militaristic characters. There was no logical reason for Leia or Holdo to do any of the shit they did early on, that set later events in motion. Period.

It should be noted that the OT and Prequels both had Vets involved who gave Lucas advice on things so that the Republic, Empire and Rebels all acted like a military. Many EU works where also written by Vets, from books to episodes of Clone Wars and even episodes of Underworld (here's hoping Disney unearths those scripts for Hulu). To my knowledge no Vets where involved in the making of the sequels. If they where, their advice seems to have been treated like Lucas' notes to Abrams.

I know the hot shit is to accuse people of calling out these characters misogynist. But I'm cantankerous ass and dead-set on going against the grain. The question I want answered, is why are the women characters the exclusive designated idiot ball carriers throughout the entire movie?

Maybe Rian is secretly the biggest misogynist of them all? As Sargon pointed out in his somewhat humorous review of the movie, it basically boils down to being the story of an incompetent patriarchy fighting an incompetent matriarchy, with the incompetent patriarchy winning the day.

Not what Rian intended I imagine, but postmodernist ideas such as death of the author makes it as valid an interpretation as any.

Zontar:
...[weapon] dealers selling to both sides, which is a fictional thing that Hollywood made up because nothing loses you all your customers (and also puts your life at risk) faster then dealing with both sides of a conflict. That's stuff governments do, but not weapons dealers. Weapons dealers who pull that shit don't last long.

Ha! Says you...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Zaharoff

Casual Shinji:
Yeah, it's a good breakdown of what's wrong with this movie. Doesn't stop it from being another video adding to the dogpile.

To Plinkett's credit, he does take the effort to point out that there's already been loads of videos about TLJ already, and that everything has already been said.

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