This is both an intellectual discussion and a test to see how long before i get put on probation for this but i have to ask

Why is sex such a "cover your eyes and ears for fear of them melting" kind of topic? In movies, games, and even books rate sex as an object to be censored more then violence or anykind of unnatural drug. This is the part that complexes me, sex is a natural part of human life. It is required for survival of a species and for people to evolve to higher more adaptable states. Its way more natural then any form of decapitation or choking someone with a bag. But interestingly extream violence is more acceptable then sex is. Maybe i'm viewing this a little to practically but honestly who has NEVER been to a porn site.

I'm sick and tired of my school, my news, my everything ready to throw down the hammer on any kind of sexual conduct because they fear it will corrupt us..... I'm sorry but i can tell you 45 ways to effectivly torture someone, i've seen on the news that thousands were killed because of extreamists and i can cuss with the best of them and they fear that something as basic as sex will corrupt me? maybe (i am not trying to bash anything) if people put their misunderstood bible beliefs down (again not trying to bash anything if you really have a problem with this reference send me a message don't off-topic this discussion with a religious war) and their bandwagon politics away we can finally put an end to this forbidden fascination and satanization (probably not a word but you get it) of sex.

Heres a video link of exactly what i'm talking about (fuck fox news) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU&feature=PlayList&p=E85694230F963B37&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=35

i know this is an old debate but its still a good example
p.s this might have been a topic before i missed it so i want to talk about it

Sex is entirely rational, between married couples.

Sex is entirely rational, between consenting adults.

Based on what I know about ancient cultures, it's taboo primarily because of Abrahamic Religion. Same applies with...well, everything relating to sexuality. Most cultures prior to the introduction of said faiths were fine talking about and engaging in a variety of sexual practices (see pre-Christian Japan, for example). [He who must not be named]/God/Allah gets introduced, that's one of the first things to go.

EDIT:
Just to clarify, that basically means that it's still taboo because it was taboo 50 years ago, and was taboo then because it was taboo 50 years before that, etc.; at this stage I think that the western world could handle open sex talk without imploding if it honestly wanted to, but humans (...and basically everything else in the ****ing universe) are naturally averse to change, so it's going to take a while before we see it coming to fruition.

fenrizz:
Sex is entirely rational, between consenting adults.

This.

Society just is uncomfortable. I think it may be left over from the highly conservative 50's era and the fact that we know nothing about it (scientifically speaking).

The main issue with sex in the media is people masturbate to it. Some people masturbate to violence but more people masturbate to regular sex, and most parents don't want their children to masturbate. Also, if fiction is too sexual people ghettoize it, you don't want that for your work unless you are Anna Rice.

ExaltedK9:
Sex is entirely rational, between married couples.

Oi! Please don't go all "moral" on me. Sex can be had at any time if both members are ready and are atleast eighteen. (Or seventeen that's very close to being eighteen.)

And I think it's an issue because:
1) Kids that should not have it shouldn't get the idea of it, because people are afraid they may act on participating on it.
2) Because porn has made sex an entertainment and "stress-reliever", people don't want that sort of smut to be shown publicly. It might cause public masturbation or something of the sort, and frankly, some people don't want to stare at a d*** during a perfectly good (or horribly bad) movie.

megapenguinx:
...and the fact that we know nothing about it (scientifically speaking).

Wait... what? Since when does science know nothing about sex?

The infamous SCAMola:

megapenguinx:
...and the fact that we know nothing about it (scientifically speaking).

Wait... what? Since when does science know nothing about sex?

We barely started getting into the science of it in the last 50 years or so. Not so much the sperm fertilizes eggs, more the science behind an orgasm (it's purpose and the body's response) and sexual stimulation.

Sex is only a stigma in OUR country (USA) because many settlers of the country were Puritans. The puritan ideals around sex have really followed through over the years.

Sex isn't treated the same way in many countries. Japan, France, England for example are far more open about sex both in the media/entertainment and in their lives.

Sex is really over-blown as far as how we view it here, to a stupid degree honestly.

Should children have sex? No, you shouldn't have sex until you reach legal adulthood
Should you have sex just because you are now an adult? No, have it when you feel you are ready
Should you have sex before you marry? Yeah, you really really should (IMO). Like anything in life, experience improves performance.

Darth Mobius:

ExaltedK9:
Sex is entirely rational, between married couples.

So you are for Wife swapping parties? What if some fat ugly woman wants me when I have a woman with a perfect body? That sounds DISGUSTING and not cool in my book.

I believe that Sex is perfectly fine between consenting individuals who understand that sex is meant to make a relationship BETTER, not just make a relationship. (I have nothing against casual Sex, it just isn't my cup of tea.)

Also, I am GLAD I have made love to my girlfriend before marriage, as it is the only way I know my love for her is unconditional, and that I am not rushing into marriage simply to get sex, as I have seen some people do...

Personally, I do not see what the big stigma is surrounding Anal sex. My girlfriend and I BOTH enjoy it with each other frequently.

Have any of you who disdain it ever actually TRIED it, or do you just assume it is gross?

(If you two take PROPER care of yourselves, there is nothing unsanitary about it at all.)

First. I believe he meant a married man and woman, not swinging.

Second. Mobius, on the whole "anal" thing. Too much fucking information, bro. I'm all for expressing your love however you want, but... really, man, I didn't want to know that.

fenrizz:
Sex is entirely rational, between consenting adults.

I get this; I agree with it - why does the media shy away from it?

Shouldn't they be censoring the violence as well?

Sewblon:
The main issue with sex in the media is people masturbate to it. Some people masturbate to violence but more people masturbate to regular sex, and most parents don't want their children to masturbate. Also, if fiction is too sexual people ghettoize it, you don't want that for your work unless you are Anna Rice.

I wonder what the rating system is there for...

I think it's because parents let their 11 year old daughters fuck their 15 year old boyfriends and get pregnant. Pedo's and Rapists bro, they make it bad for everyone else.

i don't fully agree with any of those answers but i'm leaning more to the uh teaching at a young age

ExaltedK9:
Sex is entirely rational, between married couples.

fenrizz:
Sex is entirely rational, between consenting adults.

Dare I say... Owned?

I agree with fenrizz.

--Xvito, Keeping it excellent.

I believe that sex must be taught to children so they have a clue what it is, but they should also be informed that both parties need to agree on it and should be morally acceptable among everyone (and by that I mean they should at least have idea of what they're doing and not be underaged).

Sex is the devil's work xD One guy sure has a lot of humor (he IS kidding, right o.0)

I voted for the first option. Sex is not something forbidden, or at least shouldn't be. It is as natural as eating, sleeping taking a piss or a dump (although many people tend to combine sex with the latter two 8S).

I believe that sex is a completely natural act, one which people can joke about, and talk serious about. I always joke about it, and talk serious whenever the needs arises, and my friends have no problem with that. If they do have a problem with that, they either have social issues or over-protective parents (I'm 15). Just like I said, sex is a natural act, most probably one of -the- most important.. Why would you try to stop people from talking about an act which is required for one to live?

Darth Mobius:

ExaltedK9:
Sex is entirely rational, between married couples.

So you are for Wife swapping parties? What if some fat ugly woman wants me when I have a woman with a perfect body? That sounds DISGUSTING and not cool in my book.

I believe that Sex is perfectly fine between consenting individuals who understand that sex is meant to make a relationship BETTER, not just make a relationship. (I have nothing against casual Sex, it just isn't my cup of tea.)

Also, I am GLAD I have made love to my girlfriend before marriage, as it is the only way I know my love for her is unconditional, and that I am not rushing into marriage simply to get sex, as I have seen some people do...

Personally, I do not see what the big stigma is surrounding Anal sex. My girlfriend and I BOTH enjoy it with each other frequently.

Have any of you who disdain it ever actually TRIED it, or do you just assume it is gross?

(If you two take PROPER care of yourselves, there is nothing unsanitary about it at all.)

Well SOMEONE's a bit shallow.
Naw I'm just joking, I can totally see where you're coming from.
Also, a gamer, who can has sex?! You should be heralded as some kind of messiah!

All depends on the cultural context really.

All cultures (generally speaking) have a deep obsession with two universal wants:
sex and food. All cultures have their taboos and acceptable practices. Of course, it all
depends on the context and the situation. If you are amongst mature westernized adults (a rare breed, to be sure) then it is most likely not going to be a problem to discuss coitus, fellatio, or cunnilingus (the more basic sexual acts that are cross-culturally acceptable, in most cases).

However, the same conversation may have a negative effect amongst mature adults from the Kuna tribe in Panama (one of several indigenous populations). The Kuna are VERY open about their sexuality, and frequently engage in sex with multiple simultaneous partners (only the men are permitted to do this), anal sex (usually while the female partner is pregnant), coitus and so on. However, even discussing cunnilingus or fellatio will anger or upset many of them as they view both acts as being perverse. By the same token, much of what they do deem acceptable would be seen as strange by other cultures.

fenrizz:
Sex is entirely rational, between consenting adults.

Agreed.

Flying-Emu:

Second. Mobius, on the whole "anal" thing. Too much fucking information, bro. I'm all for expressing your love however you want, but... really, man, I didn't want to know that.

Very much agreed.

That's one of those things you might want to keep to yourself.

Syphilis. Sex is a taboo in the western world because of the syphilis epidemic in 16th century.

Hey, it's as good a reason as most that have been suggested so far in this thread :)

Zenn3k:
Sex is only a stigma in OUR country (USA) because many settlers of the country were Puritans. The puritan ideals around sex have really followed through over the years.

Sex isn't treated the same way in many countries. Japan, France, England for example are far more open about sex both in the media/entertainment and in their lives.

Sex is really over-blown as far as how we view it here, to a stupid degree honestly.

Should children have sex? No, you shouldn't have sex until you reach legal adulthood
Should you have sex just because you are now an adult? No, have it when you feel you are ready
Should you have sex before you marry? Yeah, you really really should (IMO). Like anything in life, experience improves performance.

This man speaks the truth. Here in Britain they can get pretty graphic when talking about sex and stuff on the TV.

Your country is just obsessed with purity.

I never understood why so many people are uptight about sex. Its just sex.

i love sex, i know a lot about sex... even things i should have never learned

but knowing is halve the battle!

haha

megapenguinx:
Society just is uncomfortable. I think it may be left over from the highly conservative 50's era and the fact that we know nothing about it (scientifically speaking).

If I might also add... It is more than just the highly conservative 50's era. It was basically the whole Dark Ages and onwards in Western Society and that kinda translated around the globe using the Media.

I would also put it into the book that some people view it as the most primal way we can represent love. People see it as such a taboo because it is so "primal" (As we try to distance ourselves from our animal neighbours)

Edit: Oh, and to make it different from violence: Love can be seen as something that is pure, white as snow. For it to be talked about openly and verbosely would ruin said purity.

TheRedLucario:
And I think it's an issue because:
1) Kids that should not have it shouldn't get the idea of it, because people are afraid they may act on participating on it.
2) Because porn has made sex an entertainment and "stress-reliever", people don't want that sort of smut to be shown publicly. It might cause public masturbation or something of the sort, and frankly, some people don't want to stare at a d*** during a perfectly good (or horribly bad) movie.

(Found you again. Maybe I am unintentionally stalking you. O.o)
Well, if the human body is READY for it, sex is a-okay. Because you know what sex is for? To create more humans. It's not a pleasure thing, not an entertainment thing, not a love thing, it's a...Erm. I'm tired, I forget the word I'm looking for. But it's just to make more humans to keep humans alive, basically.

So what I'm saying is that your first point may be true from a moral standpoint, but from a physical and more natural standpoint, it is not true. It also covers your second point, rereading this post...

Yeah, you guys know, though. Sex is really taboo these days because NOTHING is about what's natural any more, it's about what's good for your wallet, and what keeps you from being less successful, and what "Keeps our children from being corrupted!"

I believe that if you introduce your children to sex early on, and don't make such a big deal out of trying to hide the true nature of reproduction from them, they won't be so curious about it. STORKS ARE MAKING OUR CHILDREN INTO PERVERTS.

I think if both parties are over 16 ... maybe 18 I haven't decided, and they are consenting while sober, it's all good.

On a slightly related topic, think about this:

If, since the dawn of time; people started covering up their elbows ... would elbows become sexy? When you think about it, men like boobs because they are always covered and taboo; and we want what we aren't supposed to have (It's human nature).
~Frosty.