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Gone Gonzo
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Give this a read:
Paedophiles camping in Miami

It turns out that you cannot live within 2,500 ft (760m) of anywhere children gather (pools, parks, schools etc) if you are a convicted child sex offender in Miami.

This doesn't leave many places to live in Miami so around 70 of them are living under a bridge in tents with no running water, toilets, trash collection etc.

I'd hope we all agree that their crimes are, on the whole, horrible but if we are going to release people after serving their time in prison, should we give them access to housing etc upon release? Is prison meant to be the punishment? What should happen with these people?

Your thoughts.

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bjj hero:
Give this a read:
Paedophiles camping in Miami

It turns out that you cannot live within 2,500 ft (760m) of anywhere children gather (pools, parks, schools etc) if you are a convicted child sex offender in Miami.

This doesn't leave many places to live in Miami so around 70 of them are living under a bridge in tents with no running water, toilets, trash collection etc.

I'd hope we all agree that their crimes are, on the whole, horrible but if we are going to release people after serving their time in prison, should we give them access to housing etc upon release? Is prison meant to be the punishment? What should happen with these people?

Your thoughts.

That's fucked up. They did the crime, supposedly, and served their time. They should at LEAST get the basic commodities. Couldn't they, I don't know, do something less intrusive to make sure that they don't come close to children or so people know about their past crimes? Like, I dunno, a large un-removable bracelet with "PEDO" engraved in it (Not a serious suggestion, but seriously. Making ANYONE live under a fucking bridge in tents is barbaric and stupid.)

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Let the trolls live under the bridges where they belong. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender, people don't change.

Gone Gonzo
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bjj hero:
Give this a read:
Paedophiles camping in Miami

It turns out that you cannot live within 2,500 ft (760m) of anywhere children gather (pools, parks, schools etc) if you are a convicted child sex offender in Miami.

This doesn't leave many places to live in Miami so around 70 of them are living under a bridge in tents with no running water, toilets, trash collection etc.

I'd hope we all agree that their crimes are, on the whole, horrible but if we are going to release people after serving their time in prison, should we give them access to housing etc upon release? Is prison meant to be the punishment? What should happen with these people?

Your thoughts.

Ill be sure to teach my kids to never go under bridges.

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Shapsters:
Let the trolls live under the bridges where they belong. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender, people don't change.

Maybe we should extend that kind of logic to people who commit vehicular crimes, of any kind. That'd probably help a lot more in the big picture - one drunk driving charge or speeding charge, you can't drive ever.

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Biek:

bjj hero:
Give this a read:
Paedophiles camping in Miami

It turns out that you cannot live within 2,500 ft (760m) of anywhere children gather (pools, parks, schools etc) if you are a convicted child sex offender in Miami.

This doesn't leave many places to live in Miami so around 70 of them are living under a bridge in tents with no running water, toilets, trash collection etc.

I'd hope we all agree that their crimes are, on the whole, horrible but if we are going to release people after serving their time in prison, should we give them access to housing etc upon release? Is prison meant to be the punishment? What should happen with these people?

Your thoughts.

Ill be sure to teach my kids to never go under bridges.

Its a good lesson anyways. Whether it is a troll or paedophiles, the underbelly of bridges should always avoided.

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Gormourn:

Shapsters:
Let the trolls live under the bridges where they belong. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender, people don't change.

Maybe we should extend that kind of logic to people who commit vehicular crimes, of any kind. That'd probably help a lot more in the big picture - one drunk driving charge or speeding charge, you can't drive ever.

I have no problem with that. You kill someone drunk driving you shouldn't be allowed to drive. I like it!

Infamous Scribbler
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Well then they shouldn't of "done the deed" in the first place.

Gone Gonzo
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Shapsters:

Biek:

bjj hero:
Give this a read:
Paedophiles camping in Miami

It turns out that you cannot live within 2,500 ft (760m) of anywhere children gather (pools, parks, schools etc) if you are a convicted child sex offender in Miami.

This doesn't leave many places to live in Miami so around 70 of them are living under a bridge in tents with no running water, toilets, trash collection etc.

I'd hope we all agree that their crimes are, on the whole, horrible but if we are going to release people after serving their time in prison, should we give them access to housing etc upon release? Is prison meant to be the punishment? What should happen with these people?

Your thoughts.

Ill be sure to teach my kids to never go under bridges.

Its a good lesson anyways. Whether it is a troll or paedophiles, the underbelly of bridges should always avoided.

I wonder what the old fashion homeless think of this news. Or maybe their all...

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-!!!!!!

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Shapsters:

Gormourn:

Shapsters:
Let the trolls live under the bridges where they belong. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender, people don't change.

Maybe we should extend that kind of logic to people who commit vehicular crimes, of any kind. That'd probably help a lot more in the big picture - one drunk driving charge or speeding charge, you can't drive ever.

I have no problem with that. You kill someone drunk driving you shouldn't be allowed to drive. I like it!

I didn't say kill. I mean, if a person gets caught speeding unlawfully or driving drunk, what stops them from doing it again? I say, take their car, rip their driving license, and make it impossible for them to ever drive again!

Beat Writer
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bjj hero:
Give this a read:
Paedophiles camping in Miami

It turns out that you cannot live within 2,500 ft (760m) of anywhere children gather (pools, parks, schools etc) if you are a convicted child sex offender in Miami.

This doesn't leave many places to live in Miami so around 70 of them are living under a bridge in tents with no running water, toilets, trash collection etc.

I'd hope we all agree that their crimes are, on the whole, horrible but if we are going to release people after serving their time in prison, should we give them access to housing etc upon release? Is prison meant to be the punishment? What should happen with these people?

Your thoughts.

The shouldn't have erm with children.

They deserve death, not release from prison.

Gone Gonzo
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Shapsters:
Let the trolls live under the bridges where they belong. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender, people don't change.

Thats great but I do wonder how long they will stay there. At least if you know where people are you can monitor them and act to stop further offending. If they disappear then it's not an option.

Gone Gonzo
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Exile to a small island.

Gone Gonzo
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Gormourn:

Shapsters:

Gormourn:

Shapsters:
Let the trolls live under the bridges where they belong. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender, people don't change.

Maybe we should extend that kind of logic to people who commit vehicular crimes, of any kind. That'd probably help a lot more in the big picture - one drunk driving charge or speeding charge, you can't drive ever.

I have no problem with that. You kill someone drunk driving you shouldn't be allowed to drive. I like it!

I didn't say kill. I mean, if a person gets caught speeding unlawfully or driving drunk, what stops them from doing it again? I say, take their car, rip their driving license, and make it impossible for them to ever drive again!

Agreed. Id take their passport & kick them out the country though.

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Biek:

I wonder what the old fashion homeless think of this news. Or maybe their all...

FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU-!!!!!!

*Hands you a cookie* Well played.

This is pretty crappy though, they should at least have somewhere they can stay. Not much incentive for them to do the right thing either, prison sounds better than living under a bridge.

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jeretik:

bjj hero:
Give this a read:
Paedophiles camping in Miami

It turns out that you cannot live within 2,500 ft (760m) of anywhere children gather (pools, parks, schools etc) if you are a convicted child sex offender in Miami.

This doesn't leave many places to live in Miami so around 70 of them are living under a bridge in tents with no running water, toilets, trash collection etc.

I'd hope we all agree that their crimes are, on the whole, horrible but if we are going to release people after serving their time in prison, should we give them access to housing etc upon release? Is prison meant to be the punishment? What should happen with these people?

Your thoughts.

The shouldn't have erm with children.

They deserve death, not release from prison.

Who are YOU to say that they deserve death? They served their time, and no matter how horrible their crimes might seem, guess what? They did the punishment that we gave them, and you have NO proof that they'll ever commit it again. Just because "you think so" doesn't make it right.

Morals aren't there because they're right. Morals are there because we made them.

And it's perfectly fine to say "sex". Or "fuck".

Gone Gonzo
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Gormourn:

Shapsters:
Let the trolls live under the bridges where they belong. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender, people don't change.

Maybe we should extend that kind of logic to people who commit vehicular crimes, of any kind. That'd probably help a lot more in the big picture - one drunk driving charge or speeding charge, you can't drive ever.

slight difference between drink driving, and raping children. drink drivers are much less likely to re-offend for one thing.
let them live under there bridges. better yet don't let them out of prison and take their human rights away.

Gone Gonzo
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No joke this is actually pretty foul. They served the time now the need to be given their rights once more. Ha ha ha ahh thats always sounds funny saying it out loud.

But seriously under a bridge is ridiculous. They should at least be given like a small area of land specifically for them.

Gone Gonzo
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So, instead of normal bears that attack them, do they get attacked by Pedobear?

Gone Gonzo
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Gormourn:

I didn't say kill. I mean, if a person gets caught speeding unlawfully or driving drunk, what stops them from doing it again? I say, take their car, rip their driving license, and make it impossible for them to ever drive again!

Plenty of people drive without a licence.

jeretik:

The shouldn't have erm with children.

They deserve death, not release from prison.

Currently there is no death penelty for sex offences so until law changes we still have the tent problem.

You're right they should not be around children but that doesnt solve the problem. Most people who are abused are abused by a family member or close friend of a family. You are highly unlikely to be snatched off the street walking home from school. So is 2500 feet over kill?

If you are going to kill sex offenders then where do you stop? I'd have the death penalty for drink driving or driving while under the influence of drugs if were bringing it in. Best kill him before he kills someone else. Plus any offence involving a weapon.

My gran would have it for theft and burglary. The prisons could soon be empty if we carry on down this line.

Paperboy
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Do you guys have any idea how easy it is to become a sex offender? It'll be hilarious when one of you gets your life ruined because you told a brat to stop sitting on your car and she yelled "Rapist!!"

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razer17:

Gormourn:

Shapsters:
Let the trolls live under the bridges where they belong. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender, people don't change.

Maybe we should extend that kind of logic to people who commit vehicular crimes, of any kind. That'd probably help a lot more in the big picture - one drunk driving charge or speeding charge, you can't drive ever.

slight difference between drink driving, and raping children. drink drivers are much less likely to re-offend for one thing.
let them live under there bridges. better yet don't let them out of prison and take their human rights away.

No, I'd say that drunk drivers are much more likely to re-offend. And either way, guess what? Do YOU have a good source of statistics on that topic, right now? I bet not. Neither do I.

Taking anyone's human rights is wrong. There is no proof that they will re-offend - and guess what? Prisons are CORRECTIONAL facilities, the whole system works on the idea that it will help rehabilitate past offenders. Or else, you might as well keep EVERYONE who committed any type of a crime locked in, because how do you know that they won't re-offend, or do something worse.

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polygon:
Do you guys have any idea how easy it is to become a sex offender? It'll be hilarious when one of you gets your life ruined because you told a brat to stop sitting on your car and she yelled "Rapist!!"

That is true. Under law, any touching or even negative/derogatory remarks 'can' be considered an assault. And especially if done on an opposite gender, it's even easier to make it into a first level sexual assault. At least, in Canada.

Gone Gonzo
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That's pretty shitty for the marine who's there because he had sex with a 16 year old.

He's not even a paedophile yet he's forced to live under a bridge with all the other paedophiles, instead of being allowed to live with his family.

Gone Gonzo
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Why not build a small community of small and basic homes, hook them up to something that can allow them to work isolated then leave them there, monitored but away from any children. It's not that hard to build a small community that can live by itself, it would be something like a prison except they are allowed more freedom, enough to feel uncaged but not enough to allow them to hurt people again. They might have done something that I consider evil in the past, but theres a point where we're forcing people to live in squalor that we don't put murderers in.

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polygon:
Do you guys have any idea how easy it is to become a sex offender? It'll be hilarious when one of you gets your life ruined because you told a brat to stop sitting on your car and she yelled "Rapist!!"

A slight hinge in your set up there seeing as the brat shows no sings of struggle, bruises or sexual trauma. Unless your a drug dealing arms smuggler wanted by the Feds you would probably walk away from that law suit 100'000$ of mental damage money richer from the brats parents.

But what are we talking about here? We are discussing the very underbelly, the lowest of lowest criminals living under a bridge. I say congratulations Miami you have set an example for future sex offenders, do the crime, do the time than set up your tent under the bridge.

I bet half of the future Pedo's just stuck to kiddy porn and watching the local cheer squad thanks to that future prospect.

But honest they should just be given a stretch of land in the middle of the dessert and make it Pedo town. All the commodities and luxuries of city life with people as disgusting as yourself.

Gone Gonzo
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Well they are sex offenders and pedofiles,they should live under a rock,not amongst society

Gone Gonzo
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razer17:

slight difference between drink driving, and raping children. drink drivers are much less likely to re-offend for one thing.
let them live under there bridges. better yet don't let them out of prison and take their human rights away.

Drink drivers are almost always repeat offenders. Its about how often they have been caught, quite similar to child sex offenders in that way. Very few people have driven drunk just the once. I'd argue most people who say so are not being honest.

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Shapsters:
Let the trolls live under the bridges where they belong. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender, people don't change.

That's bull, and even if it is true it's not how our law system works. It works on the basis of once you serve your time, you're "reformed". Granted it doesn't work that well, but if we use it we must abide by its rules.

1337mokro:
[quote="polygon" post="18.120504.2369051"]
But honest they should just be given a stretch of land in the middle of the dessert and make it Pedo town. All the commodities and luxuries of city life with people as disgusting as yourself.

This is one of the better solutions. None of this crap about " take their lives away" and "make them live under rocks". At least they get commodities and services here.

Gone Gonzo
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As Metallica said Kill 'em All.
Honestly there's a reason they're CONVICTED child sex offenders.

Biek:

Ill be sure to teach my kids to never go under bridges.

Also this.

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Jamash:
That's pretty shitty for the marine who's there because he had sex with a 16 year old.

He's not even a paedophile yet he's forced to live under a bridge with all the other paedophiles, instead of being allowed to live with his family.

Legally, he is a paedophile. Why do you think that paedophiles HAVE to be stereotypical middle aged men, with weird coats over naked body and vans with word "candy" spelled out in colourful letters on it's side?

I'm pretty sure that if 18 or 19 year old has sex with a 17 year old, it's still a sexual encounter with a minor - thus paedophilia. Even if they were in a long lasting relationship that started when both of them were below 18.

Well, i guess that most serious judges would pull a blind eye on this type of thing.

But then there is the whole "sexting" thing that (if my memory serves me right) pretty much made a bunch of 16 year olds child porn makers and dealers because they made a photo of themselves and sent it to friends, and then it got distributed and shit.

Law is a hammer. More like, a big mallet. If you let it hit one thing, chances are, it's going to smash a lot more then you need or want.

Paperboy
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1337mokro:
But what are we talking about here? We are discussing the very underbelly, the lowest of lowest criminals living under a bridge. I say congratulations Miami you have set an example for future sex offenders, do the crime, do the time than set up your tent under the bridge.

No we aren't. You are carrying on the common misconception that the title of "child sex offender" has any bearing on whether or not you actually ever did anything to a child. You can get on there for anything from walking a mile near a school without a shirt on to taking a piss in a bush to tapping a kid on the shoulder. And then of course there's the whole 14-17 set of girls in their sexual prime to which any psychologically sound heterosexual male should scientifically be attracted that are associated with pedophilia for some retarded reason.
Ever had a girlfriend in high school? You deserve to be condemned by society and live under a bridge for the rest of your life, you fucking sick bastard.

The whole subject is such a huge shitfest. Thousands of people get their lives ruined for no reason because of bullshit like this.

Gone Gonzo
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Shapsters:
Let the trolls live under the bridges where they belong. Once a sex offender, always a sex offender, people don't change.

In America being listed as a sex offender and being a sex offender are sometimes quite diffrent. Being a listed sex offender doesn't mean you are a pedophile, it just means its more likely you are than the next person.
But hey, lets keep treating these people as animals, thats a sure way to keep them following the laws.

I don't think people realise that most (if not all) the people living there are not likely to commit a crime like that again, which isn't saying much considering for most there was hardly a crime to begin.

Gone Gonzo
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Gormourn:

Jamash:
That's pretty shitty for the marine who's there because he had sex with a 16 year old.

He's not even a paedophile yet he's forced to live under a bridge with all the other paedophiles, instead of being allowed to live with his family.

Legally, he is a paedophile. Why do you think that paedophiles HAVE to be stereotypical middle aged men, with weird coats over naked body and vans with word "candy" spelled out in colourful letters on it's side?

I'm pretty sure that if 18 or 19 year old has sex with a 17 year old, it's still a sexual encounter with a minor - thus paedophilia. Even if they were in a long lasting relationship that started when both of them were below 18.

Well, i guess that most serious judges would pull a blind eye on this type of thing.

But then there is the whole "sexting" thing that (if my memory serves me right) pretty much made a bunch of 16 year olds child porn makers and dealers because they made a photo of themselves and sent it to friends, and then it got distributed and shit.

Law is a hammer. More like, a big mallet. If you let it hit one thing, chances are, it's going to smash a lot more then you need or want.

I get what you're saying, but technically he's not a paedophile because the person he had sex with was sexually mature. He's legally a sex offender, because the age of consent by law is something higher than 16, but he's not paedophile (the definition of a paedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to children who aren't sexually mature, who's bodies haven't gone through puberty and who shouldn't be sexually attractive).

I suppose I think it's a rough break for him because in the UK the age of consent is 16, and I hate the idea of being forced to live under a bridge with paedophiles because of a law, not because of a moral issue.

Gone Gonzo
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Reaperman Wompa:
Why not build a small community of small and basic homes, hook them up to something that can allow them to work isolated then leave them there, monitored but away from any children. It's not that hard to build a small community that can live by itself, it would be something like a prison except they are allowed more freedom, enough to feel uncaged but not enough to allow them to hurt people again. They might have done something that I consider evil in the past, but theres a point where we're forcing people to live in squalor that we don't put murderers in.

so...

a prison?

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