are gunblades plausible

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i personaly think that if you got say a bolt action rifle or something and stuck a sword on it in the right way it would work. or you could make a count duku shaped sword hollow out the middle and then put a gun in the center (mythbusters did it with an umbrella)

Yes they are plausible, bayonetted rifles are kinda gunblades. If you'd improve that you could put a bigger blade a bit more back and itd be very efficient in melee.

At this day and age who needs gunblades? 50 years from now when you get bipedal metal gears walking around a gunblade is going to do nothing.

It's called a bayonet, I believe. There are a variety of styles, some of which are basically knives or small swords stuck to the end (but away from the barrel) of the rifle.

A game called Darkwatch came up with some fun designs featuring gunblades if you wanna check those out. Generally speaking, however, swinging a sword and firing a gun aren't two tasks which tend to complement each other. You also have to take weight into account. The heavier the blade the more lopsided the gun, which impacts accuracy. Even if they could balance the gun out again, it'd be much heavier.

It would work until someone parries and then your barrel would be slightly bent unless it is a very heavy blade that is and then you wouldn't be able to aim with the gun part :)

We call "swords attached to guns" "bayonets".

And no, a longsword on a pistol grip is not going to work. Thats just a dumb idea (which, I'm sure as many people will point out, has probably been talked to death).

headshotcatcher:
Yes they are plausible, bayonetted rifles are kinda gunblades. If you'd improve that you could put a bigger blade a bit more back and itd be very efficient in melee.

Not very likely. It makes it hard(er) to maneuver the rifle, especially when fighting in close quarters, like in trenches or clearing a building.

Ever heard of a bayonette? Same thing.

By the way, who needs a blade when you've got this:

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1892309

:D

gunblades like in FF8 are useless. the recoil will move the weapon before the bullet leaves the damn thing. get a bayonet and a mosint nagant, that'll kick ass

Firearms obsoleted the sword way back in the 19th century. I'm not sure why you'd want to combine the two unless you were some sort of cock who didn't know anything about modern combat. A bayonet adds limited melee support to a rifle, although it makes it unwieldy in the sort of MOUT situation that the rifle may be useful in.

Ollie596:
50 years from now when you get bipedal metal gears walking around a gunblade is going to do nothing.

And 50 years from now, when we have autonomous UAVs armed with dozens of high-explosive bombs, those bipedal mecha are just going to get knocked over. Actually, a modern helicopter could easily wipe the floor with a mecha, and the bipedal design adds nothing except weight and complexity in the guise of gyroscopic components.

RAKtheUndead:

Ollie596:
50 years from now when you get bipedal metal gears walking around a gunblade is going to do nothing.

And 50 years from now, when we have autonomous UAVs armed with dozens of high-explosive bombs, those bipedal mecha are just going to get knocked over. Actually, a modern helicopter could easily wipe the floor with a mecha, and the bipedal design adds nothing except weight and complexity in the guise of gyroscopic components.

But....mecha's are cool, I see your point though.

The Gunblade is not a bayonet.


It's a gun that's also a sword at the same time. Unfortunately, it's prone to fail at being a gun. I'm pretty sure I read an article about this somewhere...

Note that for you to use a gun with any sort of efficiency, you'd probably need to aim it. Holding it like a handgun would be too unwieldy, since the weight of the blade makes the front end too heavy (unless said blade is made of ultra-light, but ultra strong and durable, probably forged by UltraJoe). You probably could, given enough arm strength, or if your target is not all that far. But if that's the case, you'll probably do more damage if you just slash him. Plus, you can't aim it like you would a gun that is held by two hands (like a rifle or shotgun).

possible yes. practical no.

Nothing like shooting a generic bad-guy in the face and then stabbing their partner with a searing hot blade.

/FF is crap.

Old Flintlock pistols...some even pirates carried had bayonettes on them.

Holy christ how many of you people are going on about 'what a Gunblade is' but your so far from the truth? (extreme geek mode = on)
A gunblade in ff8 does not shoot a bullet at all. When you pull the trigger, it causes a reverberation down the sword giving the sword strike extra damadge. That's all.

In that sence, no they arn't plausable because while it does add extra force to the strike theoretically, unless your really strong and able to hold the sword firmly the whole way, you will lose grip of it and things will go tits up.

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(unless said blade is made of ultra-light, but ultra strong and durable, probably forged by UltraJoe).

I'm of the opinion that a gun built into a blade is nowhere near as devastating as a Gun Built Into A Gun

I suppose you could make it spiky, if anything needed clubbing after you opened fire on it with that. Cthulhu, perhaps.

The Iron Ninja:
They existed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_sword

image

Why does everyone seem to miss this post.

THEY EXISTED

Well... not to be a nerd.. but the Gunblade (as shown in FF8) does not shoot.

It shoots "itself" and uses this charge to vibrate, to widen and deepen the wounds. So yes, the Gunblade is really a VIBROBLADE.

Also, like many people already posted: People built pistoles into nearly anything, Maces, Swords, Canes... so why not? having a gun AND something to bludgeon people semms ok for me *g*.

The Iron Ninja:
They existed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_sword

image

That is proper awesome.

pdgeorge:
Holy christ how many of you people are going on about 'what a Gunblade is' but your so far from the truth? (extreme geek mode = on)
A gunblade in ff8 does not shoot a bullet at all. When you pull the trigger, it causes a reverberation down the sword giving the sword strike extra damadge. That's all.

In that sence, no they arn't plausable because while it does add extra force to the strike theoretically, unless your really strong and able to hold the sword firmly the whole way, you will lose grip of it and things will go tits up.

And thank you for saying what I was about to say. Nobody who has posted here apart from you has ANY idea of what a gunblade in FF8 terms is.

I guess maybe if you have someone ready to kill they have no way of getting out of their certain death , don't waste your bullets on him/her and use the bayonett

Ollie596:
At this day and age who needs gunblades? 50 years from now when you get bipedal metal gears walking around a gunblade is going to do nothing.

MOUT and FISH-Operations use bayonettes to this day. The british forces in Afghanistan use them when they fight in the ditches. Sometimes it's just faster and better to stab the guy in front of you than shoot him (eg when you're really close and your clip is empty)

benjimoon:
are gunblades plausible

No.
First of all, every extra weight can throw off your aim.
Second, try grabbing a rifle with both hands if you have a blade stuck under it and see what happens (hint: you'll lose your fingers)

The curved handle would make it a pain to use as a sword never mind a gun

Syntax Error:
The Gunblade is not a bayonet.


It's a gun that's also a sword at the same time. Unfortunately, it's prone to fail at being a gun. I'm pretty sure I read an article about this somewhere...

Note that for you to use a gun with any sort of efficiency, you'd probably need to aim it. Holding it like a handgun would be too unwieldy, since the weight of the blade makes the front end too heavy (unless said blade is made of ultra-light, but ultra strong and durable, probably forged by UltraJoe). You probably could, given enough arm strength, or if your target is not all that far. But if that's the case, you'll probably do more damage if you just slash him. Plus, you can't aim it like you would a gun that is held by two hands (like a rifle or shotgun).

The curved handle would make it a pain to use as a sword never mind a gun

possible. Well yes. Practical? no. useful? No.

The blade is useless outside of close combat. If you have the ranged capacity of a firearm, you avoid close combat. Even in a melee you attemp tp shoot the other guy. Why?

Because bullet is faster than any dodge. Bullet is faster than any strike. And the bullet is far more deadly than a cut.

The extra weight of the blade would simply increase the weigh of the weapon and throw off the sights or make it front heavy (making it close to impossible to aim with unless prone): All in all you greatly reduce your offensive long-range capabilities for minor melee capability which you should never even need.

That's real life for you.

Well, the pistol sword obviously proves that they have been made.

But just for the sake of it, one of the three first videos contains a rant about how stupid Gunblades are.

Bayonets were useful when it took twenty seconds to reload a gun which was four feet long. We now have automatic and semi-automatic weapons and some idiot with a carbine or even a pistol is going to ruin the day of even the most hardened soldier who insists on using a bayonet, even in close quarters.

Syntax Error:
The Gunblade is not a bayonet.


It's a gun that's also a sword at the same time. Unfortunately, it's prone to fail at being a gun. I'm pretty sure I read an article about this somewhere...

Note that for you to use a gun with any sort of efficiency, you'd probably need to aim it. Holding it like a handgun would be too unwieldy, since the weight of the blade makes the front end too heavy (unless said blade is made of ultra-light, but ultra strong and durable, probably forged by UltraJoe). You probably could, given enough arm strength, or if your target is not all that far. But if that's the case, you'll probably do more damage if you just slash him. Plus, you can't aim it like you would a gun that is held by two hands (like a rifle or shotgun).

I read somewhere that the purpose of the gun bit is not to shoot a bullet; when you're midway through carving up the enemy's flesh you pull the trigger and the cartridge containing just powder will detonate sending a violent shockwave through the blade section. I don't know how this would work in real life but I'm pretty sure the addition of a vibration is not enough to justify the loss of control caused by such a ridiculous grip - if I'm being carved up by a huge knife I doubt I'd care much about additional trauma of a little shaking.

It would be a shitty gun and an impossibly hard to fight with sword. It would be heavy like a sword, so aiming would be difficult. And you would have to use the gun's handle to swing the blade.

POINTLESS and STUPID as HELL.

Summerstorm:
Well... not to be a nerd.. but the Gunblade (as shown in FF8) does not shoot.

It shoots "itself" and uses this charge to vibrate, to widen and deepen the wounds. So yes, the Gunblade is really a VIBROBLADE.

This. First time I heard it I got furious ^^

I dare say that he uses it to shoot when you face him in Kingdom Hearts though :P

I got another one right here.
http://www.didntyouhear.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/awesome_knife.jpg
That seems like a gunblade to me.

Implausible. If you lived in a world with gun technology, why would you attach a gun to a longsword, then remove the "gun" part?

Also, being a Final Fantasy weapon, it has that problem of being impossible for a human being to wield.

The Lancer (chainsaw bayonet) in Gears of War would be even more impractical, you'd be more likely to slice of your hand than do any damage.

Plausible? yes, practical? no

Ultrajoe:

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(unless said blade is made of ultra-light, but ultra strong and durable, probably forged by UltraJoe).

I'm of the opinion that a gun built into a blade is nowhere near as devastating as a Gun Built Into A Gun

I suppose you could make it spiky, if anything needed clubbing after you opened fire on it with that. Cthulhu, perhaps.

Damn, that gun was awesome!

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