fudgebo: America needed to be world police after WW2, before then they had a strict policy of isolationism, but with two world wars and millions dead somebody had to step up and try bring things to order, and they did. But today people are sick of that kind of attitude, but answer this question, If America wasn't so involved in world politics would the world be better? Personally I don't think so, they're keeping china and North Korea on their toes, hey have Al Qaeda in hiding, they are a force to be reckoned with which is why despot nations are far more cautious than before. America may be seen as a big imperialistic power house bit they keep the world in check, that's a good thing. Of course I'm not denying all the bad shit either.
They had to step up and grow a pair and assist The Allies. America is the biggest bullseye in the world now, though. Thanks to their "democratic" solutions.
Dont you mean their "fascist solutions in the disguise of democratic" solutions.
Fascist is harsh, do you honestly believe the world would be better without American intervention? There would be a huge power vacuum, and America has always been a target, their massive industrial strength has always been envied by world powers and feared. The Terrorist threat is just one in a very long line of threats.
Fascist is too lite, there massive industrial strength is built on slavery,fear and war. The threat's were all brought on themselves and rightly deserved.
In Ireland aren't there regularly bloody fueds between competing internal powers. I know you hate the British because they dominated you for centuries that perfectly deserved anger right there, but the internal strife is a bit like WAR and from what i here terrorist tactics are used that insight FEAR.
We have penty of Irish immigrants over here not like they don't cause problems, but guess what so does a portion of every immigrant community and domestic community as well. Its like that everywhere its just worse in America because were a melting pot. Oh and DC has over a 12% immigration population of around 600,000 people, most from countries were violence is a regular occurence. Not saying that people that have lived here for years don't cause problems but people bring blood fueds and hate with them. The only way I could see us starting to fix are domestic justice issues is to close are borders to new immigrants while things are calmed down but if that were the case then everybody would start complaining that American's think there better bla bla bla.
Yeah, because world politics did so much better when there was no international motivations from other nations or coalitions. Didn't lead to any problems what so ever. Nope.
What a staggering ability to give simple answers to complex situations you have.
Well just to remind of yahtzee, the US got it's glory in WW2 and since then it's been trying to leech on it's merits and posed as a military powerhouse with low casualties in vietnam, koreea and now irak. Seriously, you feel proud that with all the tech you brag about you have low casualties fighting an enemy mostly equipped with 50 years old kalashnikovs, rpg-7's, and boasting more than 10 t-72, against you poor lads with m-16, abrams, javelins and all the bloody UAV's? Gimme a break and learn to fight like men, with spit, grit and a whole lot'a duck-tape.
Sorry, but i'm a sucker for spetznaz tactics and gear, plus i love old warsaw-pact wepons...
Oh god, another "I hate the U.S." thread? Seriously what is with all of the hate-spewing in these forums? Aren't there better things to talk about than how much you hate a certain country? Can't we all just grow up, accept our differences, and go back to being friends?
P.S, Since when is bigotry so readily accepted, and indeed even encouraged? I was always under the impression that sort of thing was universally considered bad.
The Maddest March Hare: Considering in the grand scheme of things that America hasn't really made a positive impact on the world since WW2, and even then they had to be provoked to help, I think that they should indeed focus on their own problems instead of telling everyone else how to go about their business.
The south koreans would beg to differ,and what about the millions who benifitted from humanitarian aid? Nuclear disarmament, aids research, recently opening talks with the middle east?
That may just about break even after the failure that was the entirety of Vietnam and a war based on falsified information.
Touche, cant argue with that. Still dont make them evil or tyrannical.
"The U.S should pull out of washinton" - Yeah, that or just wear protection. U.S. has too many money worries already without having to worry about an illegitimate love child. XD
fudgebo: America needed to be world police after WW2, before then they had a strict policy of isolationism, but with two world wars and millions dead somebody had to step up and try bring things to order, and they did. But today people are sick of that kind of attitude, but answer this question, If America wasn't so involved in world politics would the world be better? Personally I don't think so, they're keeping china and North Korea on their toes, hey have Al Qaeda in hiding, they are a force to be reckoned with which is why despot nations are far more cautious than before. America may be seen as a big imperialistic power house bit they keep the world in check, that's a good thing. Of course I'm not denying all the bad shit either.
They had to step up and grow a pair and assist The Allies. America is the biggest bullseye in the world now, though. Thanks to their "democratic" solutions.
Dont you mean their "fascist solutions in the disguise of democratic" solutions.
Fascist is harsh, do you honestly believe the world would be better without American intervention? There would be a huge power vacuum, and America has always been a target, their massive industrial strength has always been envied by world powers and feared. The Terrorist threat is just one in a very long line of threats.
Fascist is too lite, there massive industrial strength is built on slavery,fear and war. The threat's were all brought on themselves and rightly deserved.
In Ireland aren't there regularly bloody fueds between competing internal powers. I know you hate the British because they dominated you for centuries that perfectly deserved anger right there, but the internal strife is a bit like WAR and from what i here terrorist tactics are used that insight FEAR.
We have penty of Irish immigrants over here not like they don't cause problems, but guess what so does a portion of every immigrant community and domestic community as well. Its like that everywhere its just worse in America because were a melting pot. Oh and DC has over a 12% immigration population of around 600,000 people, most from countries were violence is a regular occurence. Not saying that people that have lived here for years don't cause problems but people bring blood fueds and hate with them. The only way I could see us starting to fix are domestic justice issues is to close are borders to new immigrants while things are calmed down but if that were the case then everybody would start complaining that American's think there better bla bla bla.
What does ireland have to do with it? If you were referring to me,Im Irish but i was born in London and hold no resentment to Britain or America. And the roubles in northern Ireland was a huge bloody fued that lasted 60 years.
Evil Jak: "The U.S should pull out of washinton" - Yeah, that or just wear protection. U.S. has too many money worries already without having to worry about an illegitimate love child. XD
You silly man, you. And I just now realized that he didn't spell "Washington" correctly. Wonder how I missed that.
fudgebo: America needed to be world police after WW2, before then they had a strict policy of isolationism, but with two world wars and millions dead somebody had to step up and try bring things to order, and they did. But today people are sick of that kind of attitude, but answer this question, If America wasn't so involved in world politics would the world be better? Personally I don't think so, they're keeping china and North Korea on their toes, hey have Al Qaeda in hiding, they are a force to be reckoned with which is why despot nations are far more cautious than before. America may be seen as a big imperialistic power house bit they keep the world in check, that's a good thing. Of course I'm not denying all the bad shit either.
They had to step up and grow a pair and assist The Allies. America is the biggest bullseye in the world now, though. Thanks to their "democratic" solutions.
Dont you mean their "fascist solutions in the disguise of democratic" solutions.
Fascist is harsh, do you honestly believe the world would be better without American intervention? There would be a huge power vacuum, and America has always been a target, their massive industrial strength has always been envied by world powers and feared. The Terrorist threat is just one in a very long line of threats.
Fascist is too lite, there massive industrial strength is built on slavery,fear and war. The threat's were all brought on themselves and rightly deserved.
In Ireland aren't there regularly bloody fueds between competing internal powers. I know you hate the British because they dominated you for centuries that perfectly deserved anger right there, but the internal strife is a bit like WAR and from what i here terrorist tactics are used that insight FEAR.
We have penty of Irish immigrants over here not like they don't cause problems, but guess what so does a portion of every immigrant community and domestic community as well. Its like that everywhere its just worse in America because were a melting pot. Oh and DC has over a 12% immigration population of around 600,000 people, most from countries were violence is a regular occurence. Not saying that people that have lived here for years don't cause problems but people bring blood fueds and hate with them. The only way I could see us starting to fix are domestic justice issues is to close are borders to new immigrants while things are calmed down but if that were the case then everybody would start complaining that American's think there better bla bla bla.
The only internal bloody feuds i Ireland is between rival drug gangs.
The Maddest March Hare: Considering in the grand scheme of things that America hasn't really made a positive impact on the world since WW2, and even then they had to be provoked to help, I think that they should indeed focus on their own problems instead of telling everyone else how to go about their business.
The south koreans would beg to differ,and what about the millions who benifitted from humanitarian aid? Nuclear disarmament, aids research, recently opening talks with the middle east?
I hope you don't find this offensive but the kind of righteous attitude you have towards America's foreign policy is exactly the problem. You seem to think you are doing the world a favour by existing, you don't realise there is nothing intrinsically better about America than any other country. Yes you have benefited the world greatly at times, but you have also done a lot of damage, like the 'handling' of south america - replacing one dictator with a different one of your choice, then leaving and watching the country collapse a.k.a Columbia in the 1980s. The problem is an inability to acknowledge any of your mistakes.
P.S Nuclear disarmament? Yeah that has totally happened in America, you only have a couple of hundred thousand nukes ready... I think you mean Non-Proliferation which is a great idea to keep America on top of the world military heap for a few more years.
Poor, poor America. Winston tried to warn them, but...ah. You see, Americans, people don't like countries more powerful than their own. It makes them jealous and angry to see all the awesome stuff your nation has, like A-10s, Nuclear submarines and decent tanks. It was much the same with Britain during the Pax Britannia. Sure, we brought civilisation, enterprise, industry, clean fucking water and good times to most of the world, even if it was by conquest, but are they thankful? Nope.
Look at it this way:
The United States does not intervene in WW1: Bloody stalemate goes on until 1920, until the majority of Germany has starved to death, Britain is bankrupt and most of France is on fire. But worse than actually happened.
U.S Noninterventionism in WW2: Hitler wins by default, as Britain is isolated and Stalin eventually loses Russia.
Korea: The miserable hellhole that is North Korea is now extended across South Korea, uniting the whole of Korea under one massive banner of misery.]
Vietnam: Peace.
First Gulf War: Oil prices, stagflation, massive drop in standard of living across the world.
Afghanistan: Letting murder go unpunished? Fuck off.
Second Gulf War: Permitting Iraq to continue languishing under mini-Stalin for another few decades.
fudgebo: Touche, cant argue with that. Still dont make them evil or tyrannical.
Not saying that they're evil, just that they could do with seriously cleaning up their act if they want to justify their high horse "world's policeman" business.
Ugh, Saddam's problem wasn't that he was a dictator, it's that he got in the U.S's and Saudi Arabia's way by invading Kuwait and provoking the ire of Bush Sr, which in exchange gave him a sort of feud with all the Bushes, hence why America is in Iraq now. If Saddam had kept doing his business and kill people in his own country, he would still be in power right now.
The first Iraq war was not a trigger for the second, the first was just a corrupt little war with no point, and the second had completely different causes.
The second one was also just a corrupt little war with no point. Bush lied about the whole protecting terrorists and keeping weapons of mass destruction, and when he provided no evidence to support his claims and everybody finally called him out on it, he just completely shifted gear and said it was "To bring peace and democracy to the people of Iraq."
And why did he do all this? To get Saddam because daddy couldn't.
"To get Saddam because daddy couldn't"? Although I believe Bush capable of this petty stupidity, Bush wasn't the one in charge, he was manipulated by people who had different motives for war. Also, the first Iraq war had the only objective to free Kuwait, as Saddam was still useful to us. Bush Sr. didn't want to "get Saddam" at all.
fudgebo: Touche, cant argue with that. Still dont make them evil or tyrannical.
Not saying that they're evil, just that they could do with seriously cleaning up their act if they want to justify their high horse "world's policeman" business.
I agree with that, i mention it in my thread on my thesis trouble. check it out if you dont believe me. I hate hypocrisy in world politics, but then again politics are inherently hypocritical.
The Maddest March Hare: Considering in the grand scheme of things that America hasn't really made a positive impact on the world since WW2, and even then they had to be provoked to help, I think that they should indeed focus on their own problems instead of telling everyone else how to go about their business.
The south koreans would beg to differ,and what about the millions who benifitted from humanitarian aid? Nuclear disarmament, aids research, recently opening talks with the middle east?
I hope you don't find this offensive but the kind of righteous attitude you have towards America's foreign policy is exactly the problem. You seem to think you are doing the world a favour by existing, you don't realise there is nothing intrinsically better about America than any other country. Yes you have benefited the world greatly at times, but you have also done a lot of damage, like the 'handling' of south america - replacing one dictator with a different one of your choice, then leaving and watching the country collapse a.k.a Columbia in the 1980s. The problem is an inability to acknowledge any of your mistakes.
P.S Nuclear disarmament? Yeah that has totally happened in America, you only have a couple of hundred thousand nukes ready... I think you mean Non-Proliferation which is a great idea to keep America on top of the world military heap for a few more years.
Ah a hundred thousand nukes is an eggsageration, its more in the tens of thousands, and so long as its decreasing im happy with that, im not tring to be righteous im just trying to say that not all American policies are bad, they have done good. Just trying to be devils advocate, not trying to rile anyone up.
The Maddest March Hare: Considering in the grand scheme of things that America hasn't really made a positive impact on the world since WW2, and even then they had to be provoked to help, I think that they should indeed focus on their own problems instead of telling everyone else how to go about their business.
The south koreans would beg to differ,and what about the millions who benifitted from humanitarian aid? Nuclear disarmament, aids research, recently opening talks with the middle east?
I hope you don't find this offensive but the kind of righteous attitude you have towards America's foreign policy is exactly the problem. You seem to think you are doing the world a favour by existing, you don't realise there is nothing intrinsically better about America than any other country. Yes you have benefited the world greatly at times, but you have also done a lot of damage, like the 'handling' of south america - replacing one dictator with a different one of your choice, then leaving and watching the country collapse a.k.a Columbia in the 1980s. The problem is an inability to acknowledge any of your mistakes.
P.S Nuclear disarmament? Yeah that has totally happened in America, you only have a couple of hundred thousand nukes ready... I think you mean Non-Proliferation which is a great idea to keep America on top of the world military heap for a few more years.
Ah a hundred thousand nukes is an eggsageration, its more in the tens of thousands, and so long as its decreasing im happy with that, im not tring to be righteous im just trying to say that not all American policies are bad, they have done good. Just trying to be devils advocate, not trying to rile anyone up.
Hell, I think all of the world powers should KEEP their nukes, because nukes are a deterrent to the superpowers, as long as we have them, we will never see a war between the US, UK, China, Russia, France, Germany, and the like. Now, if NOBODY has nukes, we go back to big, costly wars.
And honestly? Nobody is going to launch nukes at eachother (except for North Korea... But they don't count =) ) Maybe I just have a lot of faith in humanity, but nobody wants to see M.A.D.
doctorjackal777: I don't if I can answer that question, I might be added to the Governments de-population list. Anyway yes, yes I do think America should fix all the problems in their own country before telling other countries they know what's best.
but if we concentrated on our own problems what would we do with all the cool tanks and aircraft our government bought us
I'm sure the rest of the world would love to lose our business, humanitarian aid, and military support. I'm sure South Korea would love for us not to have their back if they get nuked. I'm sure Mexico would love to not have our money, or a place for their impovershed people to go and build a life. I'm sure Israel doesn't really need us, I mean hell, things are fine on their end, right? I'm sure Africa can handle the AIDS situation on it's own, because most people over there are rich and can afford treatment and afford the research looking for a cure.
We are too deeply invested in certain places to back out, like it or not. You can argue that we shouldn't have been anywhere in the first place, but that's the past. Look, we've made mistakes, just like every other nation. Get off it, so have you. So has everyone.
This is the reason I don't come on here much anymore. Every time I do, I see some thread bashing America, and it's always the same things being said, and it gets to 12 pages before people get bored of it or the Mods finally decide to shut it down. All the rhetoric has been stated, guys. Time to move on. These threads may offer discussion, but it is no fruitful discussion that gets a ball rolling, it's more like a very bumpy road filled with potholes of logic and obstacles of opinion.
fudgebo: America needed to be world police after WW2, before then they had a strict policy of isolationism, but with two world wars and millions dead somebody had to step up and try bring things to order, and they did. But today people are sick of that kind of attitude, but answer this question, If America wasn't so involved in world politics would the world be better? .
They had to step up and grow a pair and assist The Allies. America is the biggest bullseye in the world now, though. Thanks to their "democratic" solutions.
Dont you mean their "fascist solutions in the disguise of democratic" solutions.
Fascist is harsh, do you honestly believe the world would be better without American intervention? There would be a huge power vacuum, and America has always been a target, their massive industrial strength has always been envied by world powers and feared. The Terrorist threat is just one in a very long line of threats.
Fascist is too lite, there massive industrial strength is built on slavery,fear and war. The threat's were all brought on themselves and rightly deserved.
In Ireland aren't there regularly bloody fueds between competing internal powers. I know you hate the British because they dominated you for centuries that perfectly deserved anger right there, but the internal strife is a bit like WAR and from what i here terrorist tactics are used that insight FEAR.
The only internal bloody feuds i Ireland is between rival drug gangs.
Battles between parlimentery forces in Norther Ireland and I remeber hearing on the news that there was something that happened in the republic of Ireland(something political) but that I'm not sure on. The drug wars cause a lot of problems in the us just like everywhere else that substantially increases the murder rate in every area in the world, including DC and Ireland.
Just in case you didn't get my message not directed at you fudgebo.
The Maddest March Hare: Considering in the grand scheme of things that America hasn't really made a positive impact on the world since WW2, and even then they had to be provoked to help, I think that they should indeed focus on their own problems instead of telling everyone else how to go about their business.
The Maddest March Hare: Considering in the grand scheme of things that America hasn't really made a positive impact on the world since WW2, and even then they had to be provoked to help, I think that they should indeed focus on their own problems instead of telling everyone else how to go about their business.
Would be nice, to concentrate on our own problems. No sending aid to flood,war, drought victims in other countries. No peacekeeping troops in countries where people are killing each other either over religion or race. No billions of dollars of finacial aid to support countries that lost their wars, their hope. No, we should forget that this is a planet and what happens on the other side of the world isn't our business.
Let's pull out of military bases in other countries and even our own. WHo needs them? What, the poeple who's existance and jobs are based directly or indirectly on the military. THey'll find other jobs. Who cares it turns the town into a ghost town.
OR maybe, DISBAND the military, those big meanies!! THey do such awlful things with guns. THey NEVER help anyone in other countries and their own country. Such losers.
Being never involved in other people's problems and disband the military, then we all can just be happy inside castle USA and deal with our own problems. OUr cars would be made for us, our food and oil for us, our land just for us. And maybethe Canadians, cuz we get along with them well enough.
Yay. Head in the Sand politics. Love it!
Sorry, reality check. We live in the a global world. And we are a global Economics and because of that, other countries business is our business, not only for the Americans living there, but our businesses there. Trade is important. Where do we get our tea, or coffee, or exotic fruits, or strawberries during the winter? Who will buy all our excess grain we produce? (answer China does) So a war in China for example may be good, it also is bad. Full scale war means aid to victims that costs billions with little return. political and maybe military intervention may cost billions also, but we may get to keep atrade partner that buys grain which in turn supports our farmers, lower loss of lives, and maybe a friendier government to the world.
BUT the DC crime rate? One city, known for it's murder rate. I think the Mayor of DC needs to earn his pay. If it is so bad, then the mayor needs to call in the National Guard...oh wait... Regardless, THAT isn't the President's job. HIS Job isn't to solve all our problems, we have other leaders for that: mayors, governors, town councils, PTA, etc. What's what we do, we vote to fix our problems. IT's our problem if they don't do what we wantedthem to do.
As forIraq, that is a great example of wise reasoning that we vote for a president every 4 years and they can only have two terms.
FINALLY: America, as a people, funnily doesn't judge a country by their leaders, but by their people. I wonder how the rest of the world sees countries.
fudgebo: America needed to be world police after WW2, before then they had a strict policy of isolationism, but with two world wars and millions dead somebody had to step up and try bring things to order, and they did. But today people are sick of that kind of attitude, but answer this question, If America wasn't so involved in world politics would the world be better? Personally I don't think so, they're keeping china and North Korea on their toes, hey have Al Qaeda in hiding, they are a force to be reckoned with which is why despot nations are far more cautious than before. America may be seen as a big imperialistic power house bit they keep the world in check, that's a good thing. Of course I'm not denying all the bad shit either.
Yeah i fully agree with you man. I mean, as much as it may seem america meddles in other nations affairs, i would rather they do the meddling as opposed to, say, China. Also (being australian) i feel comforted with the thought that if australia were invaded that america is probably the only nation with big enough balls to step in and do something.
I have little faith in the commonwealth.
In the immortally wise words of Trey Parker and Matt Stone; "DICKS ALSO FUCK ASSHOLES CHUCK"
fudgebo: America needed to be world police after WW2, before then they had a strict policy of isolationism, but with two world wars and millions dead somebody had to step up and try bring things to order, and they did. But today people are sick of that kind of attitude, but answer this question, If America wasn't so involved in world politics would the world be better? .
They had to step up and grow a pair and assist The Allies. America is the biggest bullseye in the world now, though. Thanks to their "democratic" solutions.
Dont you mean their "fascist solutions in the disguise of democratic" solutions.
Fascist is harsh, do you honestly believe the world would be better without American intervention? There would be a huge power vacuum, and America has always been a target, their massive industrial strength has always been envied by world powers and feared. The Terrorist threat is just one in a very long line of threats.
Fascist is too lite, there massive industrial strength is built on slavery,fear and war. The threat's were all brought on themselves and rightly deserved.
In Ireland aren't there regularly bloody fueds between competing internal powers. I know you hate the British because they dominated you for centuries that perfectly deserved anger right there, but the internal strife is a bit like WAR and from what i here terrorist tactics are used that insight FEAR.
The only internal bloody feuds i Ireland is between rival drug gangs.
Battles between parlimentery forces in Norther Ireland and I remeber hearing on the news that there was something that happened in the republic of Ireland(something political) but that I'm not sure on. The drug wars cause a lot of problems in the us just like everywhere else that substantially increases the murder rate in every area in the world, including DC and Ireland.
Just in case you didn't get my message not directed at you fudgebo.
Being someone from the republic of Ireland i don't consider parliamentary forces fighting British invaders internal, not is just my opinion. Just off the point for a second in my local newspaper my small town had it's first heroin overdose.
fudgebo: America needed to be world police after WW2, before then they had a strict policy of isolationism, but with two world wars and millions dead somebody had to step up and try bring things to order, and they did. But today people are sick of that kind of attitude, but answer this question, If America wasn't so involved in world politics would the world be better? Personally I don't think so, they're keeping china and North Korea on their toes, hey have Al Qaeda in hiding, they are a force to be reckoned with which is why despot nations are far more cautious than before. America may be seen as a big imperialistic power house bit they keep the world in check, that's a good thing. Of course I'm not denying all the bad shit either.
Yeah i fully agree with you man. I mean, as much as it may seem america meddles in other nations affairs, i would rather they do the meddling as opposed to, say, China. Also (being australian) i feel comforted with the thought that if australia were invaded that america is probably the only nation with big enough balls to step in and do something.
I have little faith in the commonwealth.
In the immortally wise words of Trey Parker and Matt Stone; "DICKS ALSO FUCK ASSHOLES CHUCK"
Not to mention that if you look back far enough in every countries history, you'll likely find atrocities that far surpass what the US has done in it's mere 200 years as a country. Crusades anyone? It's easy to point fingers at the US, our history is completely fresh and new in everyone's mind. The tens of millions of people killed by Chairman Mao, Stalin, the Spanish Inquisition, Hitler, etc.. Those of course, are really too old to count. Right?
GodsOneMistake: Wow, another America Hate thread, god damn can we stop this, seriously. Sure America has a lot of douchbags, but what country fucking doesn't? It's not America that invaded Iraq, it was Bush and his administration. Thats not America, America is 1941. And the incident such as vietnam, as I recall France put our asses into that mess. (Or so I very informed friend told me, but he usually isn't wrong about things like this)
Sigh... I'm gonna get a lot of hate for this post that is simply trying to stop the hate.
We were coming to bail out the french, because they were getting their asses handed to them.. They then left us I believe?
War over falsified information: It is called yellow journalism, which U.S government officials can't keep down.
Eh....the US hasn't torn up the world really anymore so than the British...or the French...or the Spanish...or the Germans...
There's always going to be the big country that has to deal with the small countries. If the US didn't get involved, we'd get threads on how the US needs to do more to stop genocide, dictators, cure death, etc. (granted there's a lot of those already, God knows nobody can go through a serious thread or a celebrity's death without someone yelling about Darfur).
The thing with the first Iraq War was that Bush Sr. never really lied about it. Sure he talked about Saddam being the dickhead bully picking on nerdy Kuwait (nerds!), but for all intensive purposes, it was about oil and we knew it and the entire world knew it. And we STILL had a massive coalition going into Kuwait with the US.
Should the US get personally involved in everything? Hell no. Should it be interested and give its input? Hell yes.
fudgebo: America needed to be world police after WW2, before then they had a strict policy of isolationism, but with two world wars and millions dead somebody had to step up and try bring things to order, and they did. But today people are sick of that kind of attitude, but answer this question, If America wasn't so involved in world politics would the world be better? .
They had to step up and grow a pair and assist The Allies. America is the biggest bullseye in the world now, though. Thanks to their "democratic" solutions.
Dont you mean their "fascist solutions in the disguise of democratic" solutions.
Fascist is harsh, do you honestly believe the world would be better without American intervention? There would be a huge power vacuum, and America has always been a target, their massive industrial strength has always been envied by world powers and feared. The Terrorist threat is just one in a very long line of threats.
Fascist is too lite, there massive industrial strength is built on slavery,fear and war. The threat's were all brought on themselves and rightly deserved.
In Ireland aren't there regularly bloody fueds between competing internal powers. I know you hate the British because they dominated you for centuries that perfectly deserved anger right there, but the internal strife is a bit like WAR and from what i here terrorist tactics are used that insight FEAR.
The only internal bloody feuds i Ireland is between rival drug gangs.
Battles between parlimentery forces in Norther Ireland and I remeber hearing on the news that there was something that happened in the republic of Ireland(something political) but that I'm not sure on. The drug wars cause a lot of problems in the us just like everywhere else that substantially increases the murder rate in every area in the world, including DC and Ireland.
Just in case you didn't get my message not directed at you fudgebo.
Being someone from the republic of Ireland i don't consider parliamentary forces fighting British invaders internal, not is just my opinion. Just off the point for a second in my local newspaper my small town had it's first heroin overdose.
Whatever, my point being that every country has stuff they try to sweep under the rug America's problems are just more obvious because were the only country besides China that gets mentioned reguarly in world news(excluding currently invaded middle eastern countries). Are country is larger and therefore has more problems all around the only country that beats us with that is China and they have huge domestic issues they try to keep most out the news tho. I don't like the general demonization of America despite our issues.
dmase: Oh and DC has over a 12% immigration population of around 600,000 people, most from countries were violence is a regular occurence. Not saying that people that have lived here for years don't cause problems but people bring blood fueds and hate with them. The only way I could see us starting to fix are domestic justice issues is to close are borders to new immigrants while things are calmed down but if that were the case then everybody would start complaining that American's think there better bla bla bla.
Ugh... If violence is a regular occurrence where they live, why did they emigrate? To escape the violence, right? Now, why on Earth would they then want to perpetuate the same violence they fled from in their new home? The immigrants don't cause it, it's the people who don't want the immigrants that cause it. The gangs that cause all the crime recruit these immigrants because they are easily targeted. They are easily targeted because they feel isolated by the anti-immigrant community, which, although not the biggest, is certainly very loud. This makes them think that the whole country is against them, so they take the only hand they are offered, and that is one of crime.
I'm also going to add that they don't bring hate with them. Why would they emmigrate to a country that they hate? There are plenty of other MEDCs who will take them in without the problems, and still offer the same benefits (Or more so, in the case of the UK.) as the US.
Whatever, my point being that every country has stuff they try to sweep under the rug America's problems are just more obvious because were the only country besides China that gets mentioned reguarly in world news(excluding currently invaded middle eastern countries). OURcountry is larger and therefore has more problems all around the only country that beats us with that is China and they have huge domestic issues they try to keep most out the news tho.
That is why countries are compared by percentages, not raw numbers.
I don't like the general demonization of America despite our issues.
So long as America considers itself the most important country in the world, it is going to attract the most attention. It makes sense, no?
fudgebo: America needed to be world police after WW2, before then they had a strict policy of isolationism, but with two world wars and millions dead somebody had to step up and try bring things to order, and they did. But today people are sick of that kind of attitude, but answer this question, If America wasn't so involved in world politics would the world be better? .
They had to step up and grow a pair and assist The Allies. America is the biggest bullseye in the world now, though. Thanks to their "democratic" solutions.
Dont you mean their "fascist solutions in the disguise of democratic" solutions.
Fascist is harsh, do you honestly believe the world would be better without American intervention? There would be a huge power vacuum, and America has always been a target, their massive industrial strength has always been envied by world powers and feared. The Terrorist threat is just one in a very long line of threats.
Fascist is too lite, there massive industrial strength is built on slavery,fear and war. The threat's were all brought on themselves and rightly deserved.
In Ireland aren't there regularly bloody fueds between competing internal powers. I know you hate the British because they dominated you for centuries that perfectly deserved anger right there, but the internal strife is a bit like WAR and from what i here terrorist tactics are used that insight FEAR.
The only internal bloody feuds i Ireland is between rival drug gangs.
Battles between parlimentery forces in Norther Ireland and I remeber hearing on the news that there was something that happened in the republic of Ireland(something political) but that I'm not sure on. The drug wars cause a lot of problems in the us just like everywhere else that substantially increases the murder rate in every area in the world, including DC and Ireland.
Just in case you didn't get my message not directed at you fudgebo.
Being someone from the republic of Ireland i don't consider parliamentary forces fighting British invaders internal, not is just my opinion. Just off the point for a second in my local newspaper my small town had it's first heroin overdose.
Whatever, my point being that every country has stuff they try to sweep under the rug America's problems are just more obvious because were the only country besides China that gets mentioned reguarly in world news(excluding currently invaded middle eastern countries). Are country is larger and therefore has more problems all around the only country that beats us with that is China and they have huge domestic issues they try to keep most out the news tho. I don't like the general demonization of America despite our issues.
To be honest with you i don't see much about china in the news and i don't really care about other countries internal problems. What i do care about is other countries trying to run other countries, i don't have a problem with the people but governments blah blah blah blah.
dmase: Oh and DC has over a 12% immigration population of around 600,000 people, most from countries were violence is a regular occurence. Not saying that people that have lived here for years don't cause problems but people bring blood fueds and hate with them. The only way I could see us starting to fix are domestic justice issues is to close are borders to new immigrants while things are calmed down but if that were the case then everybody would start complaining that American's think there better bla bla bla.
Ugh... If violence is a regular occurrence where they live, why did they emigrate? To escape the violence, right? Now, why on Earth would they then want to perpetuate the same violence they fled from in their new home? The immigrants don't cause it, it's the people who don't want the immigrants that cause it. The gangs that cause all the crime recruit these immigrants because they are easily targeted. They are easily targeted because they feel isolated by the anti-immigrant community, which, although not the biggest, is certainly very loud. This makes them think that the whole country is against them, so they take the only hand they are offered, and that is one of crime.
I'm also going to add that they don't bring hate with them. Why would they emmigrate to a country that they hate? There are plenty of other MEDCs who will take them in without the problems, and still offer the same benefits (Or more so, in the case of the UK.) as the US.
If you've known violence all your life you don't know how to act in a place were you don't need violence to get what you want. The immigrants come over and despite the fact that there legal are afraid to go to the police because back in there country the police were the bad guys so they never report anything that happense in there neighborhoods. When gangs relize they can get away with certain things in certain negiborhoods they don't stop and then rival gangs popup and it gets worse. I also said that it wasn't just immigrants causing the entire problem they are about 1/6 of the population in an area of high violence and its not like they are the constant victims.
In Ireland aren't there regularly bloody fueds between competing internal powers. I know you hate the British because they dominated you for centuries that perfectly deserved anger right there, but the internal strife is a bit like WAR and from what i here terrorist tactics are used that insight FEAR.
We have penty of Irish immigrants over here not like they don't cause problems, but guess what so does a portion of every immigrant community and domestic community as well. Its like that everywhere its just worse in America because were a melting pot. Oh and DC has over a 12% immigration population of around 600,000 people, most from countries were violence is a regular occurence. Not saying that people that have lived here for years don't cause problems but people bring blood fueds and hate with them. The only way I could see us starting to fix are domestic justice issues is to close are borders to new immigrants while things are calmed down but if that were the case then everybody would start complaining that American's think there better bla bla bla.