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'Are todays kids getting more stupid or not paying enough attention in lessons?
Their getting more stupid.
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Not paying enough attention in lessons.
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They were stupid to begin with.
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Copy Clerk
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On Friday I came across this article in the Daily Mirror (I know its not a reliable source).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225549/Hitler-coached-Germanys-football-team-McDonalds-arches-symbolise-remembrance-day-What-todays-children.html

It's a survey which 2,000 children age 9 to 15 were asked about remembrance day and the World Wars.
It's pretty shocking to me that the children throught the Holocaust was the celebration at the end of the war.

Here's some quotes.

'Adolf Hitler was Germany's football team manager, according to youngsters aged nine to 15.'

'Only half knew D-Day was the invasion of Normandy - a quarter believing it was 'Dooms Day' and one quarter thought a nuclear bomb was dropped on Pearl Harbour which spurred America's involvement.'

'Some of the more disturbing results were that one in six children believed Auschwitz was a World War Two theme park.'

So what do you think about this?

Gone Gonzo
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The children don't pay attention because of their interest. It's most likely relative to the amount of time between the genocide attempt and their age which throws them off.

EDIT: But, yes, kids are stupid.

Nobel Laureate
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...do you mean "Are" they?

And from what I've heard, the Daily Mail is not exactly a reputable source.
Reading that last bit made me really question their reliability. Even though I hate kids, I can't bring myself to believe they're truly that dense.

Gone Gonzo
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I once met a person who had no idea what the KGB was.

TheJackel2008:
-snip-

Kids have always been pretty stupid?

Infamous Scribbler
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Is that actually a reliable source?

I guess if you really bend the definition, Auschwitz can be considered a theme park. A gruesome and pretty evil park, but it certainly has the "theme" part down packed.

Infamous Scribbler
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The question isn't, is todays kids getting stupid? The question is, is our children learning? :P

They'll learn, eventually. And if they don't, well, someone has to do the dirty jobs (until sufficiently advanced robots get developed and marketed, that is).

Copy Clerk
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I truly hope this thread title is intentionally ironic.

Edit: And every option in the poll too.

Pulitzer Laureate
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Wow, the poll is pretty stupid too! "Yes THEY are" "its the teachers fault THEY'RE stupid."

Pulitzer Laureate
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I think you're also looking to rename the topic, "Are today's kids becoming more stupid?"
Don't worry, I did something much the same way in another topic bashing stupid people.

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WelshWizard:
I truly hope this thread title is intentionally ironic.

Edit: And every option in the poll too.

hahah I hope so too!

I highly highly doubt the holocaust thing. We were taught the holocaust so much when I was in school that it got boring. Plus what male kid at that age doesn't want to learn about WW2? I'm sure they were just making up answers for the newspaper.

Gone Gonzo
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Kids have always been stupid, but they are getting stupider. Idiocracy is looking more and more accurate.

Gone Gonzo
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Wow, really?

This just makes me more ashamed to be 13 *sigh*

Gone Gonzo
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To be honest, I'm going to take this one with a pile of salt. The Daily Mail is well known for using shock tactics for scaring people into action.

That said, there is an issue with education today, but probably not to the extreme that the daily mail is making it out to be...

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Cajt:
I once met a person who had no idea what the KGB was.

TheJackel2008:
-snip-

Kids have always been pretty stupid?

thats a pretty easy one to not know, after all the Komitet Gosudarstvennoy Bezopasnosti was, if not, still is one of the most secretive agencies ever in the history of the political ring, even today literally tons of their papers are hidden away.

OT: seriously? what is surprising is that this was recorded in the UK, this is something I would expect to be found in America. It saddens me a little also, The War to End all Wars and World War II are some of my favorite history topics.

Maybe I should go into teaching............

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WelshWizard:
I truly hope this thread title is intentionally ironic.

Edit: And every option in the poll too.

This

OT: Why should a nine year old know who Hitler was? Let them have their childhood innocence, teach them this stuff in high school.

Besides which, this is a tabloid newspaper. I call bullshit.

Gone Gonzo
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"Is todays kids getting stupid or its me?" OT

This is not even a proper sentence.

What kind of education did you get OT?

Did you get "left behind?"

Gone Gonzo
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your source is the dailymail, according to them we're all drugged up, ultraviolent hoodies who can neither read nor write and are just generally bad, stupid and evil.

if it's true that we're getting stupider (whch it really isn't) it's the fault of society. I mean, if kids think that, it's because no one corrected them.

On the Record
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one in six children believed Auschwitz was a World War Two theme park

In a way, they're right.

I don't think this is because the kids are stupid, it's because the World Wars are passing out of living memory and they're only six years old. I learned about it because my Granddad had been a Sherman gunner (and killed a lot of people, but that's not really relevant) whilst all his friends had fought in some form or other, a good chunk of them with the scars to prove it.

They're all dead now, if I was born now I'd never get to ask why Grandad's face looked funny. Besides when I was six there were bigger things to think about than the war my Granddad fought in millions* of years ago, things like formula 1 cars, Damon Hill's helmet, spyplanes, dogs, cats, hamsters and DINOSAURS!
My Granddad considered these things more important too.

This is just the Mail being the Mail and coming up with a scare story. You can't expect a six year old to genuinely know that kind of history, they're six for fucks sake.

*When your six, sixty years may as well be a million for all the sense of time you have

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TheJackel2008:
On Friday I came across this article in the Daily Mirror
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225549/Hitler-coached-Germanys-football-team-McDonalds-arches-symbolise-remembrance-day-What-todays-children.html

Its a survey which 2,000 children age 9 to 15 were asked about remembrance day and the World Wars.
Its pretty shocking to me that the children throught the Holocaust was the celebration at the end of the war.

Here's some quotes.

'Adolf Hitler was Germany's football team manager, according to youngsters aged nine to 15.'

'Only half knew D-Day was the invasion of Normandy - a quarter believing it was 'Dooms Day' and one quarter thought a nuclear bomb was dropped on Pearl Harbour which spurred America's involvement.'

'Some of the more disturbing results were that one in six children believed Auschwitz was a World War Two theme park.'

So is it the teachers fault or the childrens fault that their stupid ?

I think it's because no one gives a shit any longer.

Or yeah, paper being a stupid paper.

Pulitzer Laureate
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I think kids are using the wrong media to learn from. This is made worse by morons who worry too much about the risk of kids learning something that could be traumatic or offensive.
I've heard people saying that kids shouldn't learn about the holocaust because a) it might upset them and b) it might offend their parents (if they are deniers). That's the sort of attitute that leads to stupidity.
Also I suspect thatthe reality TV mentality of not really needing to be good at stuff to do well as long as people are looking at you probably doesn't help.

Gone Gonzo
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From the thread title alone, its just you.

Gone Gonzo
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Is kids today getting stupid?

Oh, oh man. I don't even know where to start with this. Oh man.

OP, you make this shit too easy.

Infamous Scribbler
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DirkGently:
From the thread title alone, its just you.

I'll share with you my cookie.

Press Junketeer
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Seeing as you failed to conjugate "is" into "are", as well as saying it's instead of is it.
IN YOUR TITLE.

I voted yes.

Beat Writer
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Ciarang:
Wow, really?

This just makes me more ashamed to be 13 *sigh*

*Waggles finger* GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DAMN KIDS

TheJackel2008:
On Friday I came across this article in the Daily Mirror
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225549/Hitler-coached-Germanys-football-team-McDonalds-arches-symbolise-remembrance-day-What-todays-children.html

Its a survey which 2,000 children age 9 to 15 were asked about remembrance day and the World Wars.
Its pretty shocking to me that the children throught the Holocaust was the celebration at the end of the war.

Here's some quotes.

'Adolf Hitler was Germany's football team manager, according to youngsters aged nine to 15.'

'Only half knew D-Day was the invasion of Normandy - a quarter believing it was 'Dooms Day' and one quarter thought a nuclear bomb was dropped on Pearl Harbour which spurred America's involvement.'

'Some of the more disturbing results were that one in six children believed Auschwitz was a World War Two theme park.'

So is it the teachers fault or the childrens fault that their stupid ?

As mentioned by a few other people, I hope that there is irony to be found in the title, and not just, dare I say, stupid, mistake ?

Gone Gonzo
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I'm pretty sure I didn't know what D-Day was at age 11 either. Saving Private Ryan changed that pretty quickly.

After reading the article, most of what they are saying is spin. It's one way to interpret the data. Look at the statistics they give for a lot of these elements. They indicate that much less than the majority lack the knowledge. Do some kids have a really messed up knowledge of WWII? Yes, and I would wager that you would also find similar results given a sampling of 2000 adults.

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I don't know about anyone else but if someone gave me a questionaire that said "Was Auschwitz a German theme park?" I would've said yeah.

On the Record
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I don't think that can prove they are stupid, they obviously were not told about that stuff, but yes kids are getting stupid.

Gone Gonzo
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Chinchama:

Ciarang:
Wow, really?

This just makes me more ashamed to be 13 *sigh*

*Waggles finger* GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DAMN KIDS

TheJackel2008:
On Friday I came across this article in the Daily Mirror
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1225549/Hitler-coached-Germanys-football-team-McDonalds-arches-symbolise-remembrance-day-What-todays-children.html

Its a survey which 2,000 children age 9 to 15 were asked about remembrance day and the World Wars.
Its pretty shocking to me that the children throught the Holocaust was the celebration at the end of the war.

Here's some quotes.

'Adolf Hitler was Germany's football team manager, according to youngsters aged nine to 15.'

'Only half knew D-Day was the invasion of Normandy - a quarter believing it was 'Dooms Day' and one quarter thought a nuclear bomb was dropped on Pearl Harbour which spurred America's involvement.'

'Some of the more disturbing results were that one in six children believed Auschwitz was a World War Two theme park.'

So is it the teachers fault or the childrens fault that their stupid ?

As mentioned by a few other people, I hope that there is irony to be found in the title, and not just, dare I say, stupid, mistake ?

You just reminded me that I'm going to be that crotchety old guy.

Anonymous Source
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No, kids aren't getting more stupid. It's just that people don't want to admit that, statistically speaking, some kids are gonna be stupid. Besides, Daily Mail. Apocalyptic hurricane in an eye-bath sized teacup.

Oh, and I think that that thing about Hitler being the manager of the German football is hardly surprising, when you consider the way some English football fans act whenever England plays Germany.

Gone Gonzo
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I know someone in my year at school who had no idea who Stalin was.

Pulitzer Laureate
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you answered your own question whan you typed the subject. "is todays kids getting stupid or its me"

Are todays kids getting stupid or is it me?

Pulitzer Laureate
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I hope that English isn't your native, mate, or you have no right to discuss stupidity.

Muckraker
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If kids are stupid its because they're kids. I was stupid when I was a kid and so were you.

You can't tell me you never believed something ridiculous when you were a kid.

Gone Gonzo
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"Is todays kids getting stupid or its me ?"
"Yes there are."
"We is smarter then?"
"Yes, poll make."
"Good is! Hungry, you? Eat."
"That rat."
"Juicy, uncooked rat!"
"Me sign up!"

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