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Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 617 Joined: 1 Apr 2009     | |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2043 Joined: 18 Jun 2008     | I feel a vast majority of human actions are motivated by avarice and selfishness, and it only gets exacerbated by the season. |
Nobel Laureate  Posts: 19579 Joined: 24 Aug 2009     | I hate things due to the fact I personally hate them. No band-wagons being jumped on here. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 106 Joined: 19 Aug 2009   | Did some1 say "cynicism"? |
BANNED  Posts: 16327 Joined: 26 Dec 2008    | Being cynical doesn't mean hating everything, and if you think it does then that perfectly explains why being optimistic about the human race is stupid. I didn't make any conscious choice to expect the worst. User was banned for: When will the beast just die? EDIT. (Permanent) |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 596 Joined: 21 Oct 2009   | The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. Thought it was appropriate. I don't know about others, but my cynicism stems from observation. Ironically, many people who try to disprove my cynicism are part of the reason for it. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 83 Joined: 27 Nov 2009    | I try not to be. Too much cynicysm can be annoying. |
BANNED  Posts: 7326 Joined: 10 Apr 2007     | Read the Editor's Note from last week's issue: you're not alone in say this/noticing it. User was banned for: Guido Age: Origins - Return to Jersey Shore with Morrigan. (Permanent) |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1282 Joined: 3 Jan 2009  | You have to think outside the box. "Hate" catches on like wildfire. An interesting notion is that many 'cynics' used to have an identical stance as the OP. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 3916 Joined: 21 Apr 2009   | People who hate simply to hate are like high school students who protest to get out of school. As for me, I hate things for a reason. If you were to ask me about why I hate a certain thing that I do I would provide you with a credible and an at least somewhat logical answer. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 952 Joined: 9 Aug 2009 | I would love nothing more than to be satisfied with people, crappy products, service, food, entertainment and so on. I can't help that I demand some actual originality, entertainment value or quality in the things that take up my time. I honestly believe my time is worth more than Bold and the Beautiful, Two and a Half Men, games that seem to be made just for the money, albums where the band just gave up on originality because they think they can do no wrong, stupid people talking at me, worrying about the hardships of beef cattle, dealing with customers absolutely unfounded claims of disservice, bad novels and the amount I have to pay for things that cost only cents to produce. Most of those problems are money related, because the people producing are money grubbing whores. The other side of the problem is the stupid people who will enjoy any crap that these people hand them. The two groups keep each other occupied, and keep me pissed off. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 486 Joined: 14 Oct 2009    | I am both cynical and not. Generally online, I'm very cynical due to the fact that I'm tired of whiny attention whores seeking out---see? Already it begins. Anyway, I'm an adult working at a job I hate, surrounded by other people who are working at a job they hate. I come online to relax and read or play games, and I'm inundated with ignorant, selfish behavior which drives me, in a word, batshit. Probably doesn't help that I'm an distrusting, suspicious person by nature, very glass-half-empty type until I'm given a reason to think otherwise. But once you get to know me, I'm charming as f*ck and occasionally amusing. :D |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 2110 Joined: 16 Aug 2008   | Cynicism is often mis-interpreted. I prefer to call it being realistic. Lets face it, it's hard to have faith in something that has fucked up so much in it's short history. (that is, mankind) I know I sound like one of those pubescent misanthropes who believes it's cool to hate everything, but once you have lived life a little, you will learn not to take things at face value, and always distrust others, and question their motives, until they prove they are worthy of your trust and love. Plenty of people are deserving of love, you just need to figure who they are, and separate them from the douchebags. /drunken incoherence. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 561 Joined: 8 Apr 2008    | People have to complain about something. It's when they pretend their one voice should force change to thousands of others right, todding on another right to choose something harmless to them because jackass #292921 thinks his invisible man in the sky might get offended. People love to complain. And with hiding your face on the internet, not only can you bitch, you can threaten, insults and belittle anyone you wish and unlike the school locker room avoid the asskicking and being hung up on the showers in a mega wedgie. As the Holiday approch people shove down your throat your suppost to be nicer, as not only is everyone being a jackass with holiday shopping, parking lots ect, if you don't they call you a Scrooge and if we recall he was a ticked off every man, who was forced to put on the fake Lithium smile or be killed by the nice spirits of the holidays in all their evil control. Consume and be happy or be punished. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1523 Joined: 13 Jun 2009   | I'm not cynical by choice, that would make me some kind of poser, hating simply because it's "cool" to hate. I'm cynical because I observe the world as I go through it, and seriously, humanity is fucked up. We are the cruellest, most vile species on the planet. No other creature ever to walk on Earth has created so many inventive and horrific ways of killing their own kind. We are clever enough to have invented boredom in a world that, when you really watch, shouldn't work. Rock spinning through space at thousands of miles an hour without sending us outwards at said speed? Even the fact we are sat here typing letters into a keyboard is a miracle of existence, yet we have managed to make this mundane. It's things like this, as well as our unending torment of the "lesser" creatures on the planet, that give me my bleak outlook on our future. And really, misanthropy is just so much easier. The less hope you build up over a person, the easier the blow is when you find out they're as moronic and disgusting as you predicted. If they aren't, well then, it's a pleasant surprise and it all turned out okay. Cynicism and hatred just work better than optimism. Glass half full or half empty? I'm not interested in that, I'm curious which bastard drank my cider. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 555 Joined: 7 Apr 2009  | Cynicism is part of a balanced worldview. As is pessimism. That is the real irony in the OP, because cynics aren't bad people. Cynics may wish the world was a better place, and are only cynical because it could be better. Inside many cynics you will find wounded optimists, but that only means that the world does not support optimism that isn't based on ignorance. I'm an optimist as well as a cynic though, so I think it could. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1311 Joined: 7 Feb 2009   | I just hate things because... they're dumb. |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1307 Joined: 2 Sep 2009   |
I agree. Deep down, I can be a bit of an optimist. But a lot of the time, I take a rather cynical view of the world. Not because everyone else does or because its for the sake of it. My cynicism spawns from the way I see things, not the way everybody else does. And to answer one of OP's questions: No I don't like to hate things, I actually sometimes view my cynicism as a bane on my life that stops me from enjoying things I would like to. |
Beat Writer  Posts: 186 Joined: 2 Aug 2009   | Is it a paradox to enjoy being cynical? |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 617 Joined: 1 Apr 2009 |
I must've used the wrong words, I meant cynicysm is actively seeking fault in things. Of course this now makes my original post total nonsense. To revise: Who of you are actually cynics by this definition? It's understandable to dislike something, but do you actively want to find faults in everything, or does it just come naturally?
I think this is the belief that gets to me the most. I really just... don't believe that massive hordes of our population can't figure out how to put their pants on each morning. Every single person that I've met in my seventeen years on earth, I can find at least a shred of worth in them. My tired verbal flailing is summed up perfectly by this. |
Copy Clerk  Posts: 92 Joined: 29 Oct 2009  | Be an optimist and be constantly let down by people and the world? or Be a cynic and be pleasantly surprised by the genuinely good things people do? no contest. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 617 Joined: 1 Apr 2009 |
Speaking as the former, bunnies and rainbows have been treating me pretty well. |
BANNED Posts: 16327 Joined: 26 Dec 2008 |
For me, like I said, it comes naturally. I do see the flaws in everything naturally. User was banned for: When will the beast just die? EDIT. (Permanent) |
Pulitzer Laureate Posts: 952 Joined: 9 Aug 2009 |
I've seen that comic before, and like it. I never said that massive hordes of the population are total retards, but I still believe that there must be great numbers who are entertained by mindless junk. They might have redeeming qualities, but I don't see them, or they don't show those qualities in the brief time that I meet them. Enjoyment of crap isn't to say pants on head retarded, but it isn't exactly speaking for their intellectual capabilities either. |
Copy Clerk Posts: 92 Joined: 29 Oct 2009 | Well, there is that old adage "When life gives you lemons, make lemonade", unfortunately for some of us, We get lemon juice in the eye every time we try. Life either wares you down or pats you on the back, so really i don't begrudge any optimist, its who you are and i won't try change it. Just don't smile in my direction, ok? |
Gone Gonzo  Posts: 1444 Joined: 8 Jul 2009  | Why are there so many sad people. I am obscenely happy all the time and yet I can (and do) see the flaws in everything. I think my world view is summed up by this "Hope for the best but prepare for the worst". Basically, whenever something bad happens I see all the worse things it could have been and am happy that it is good by comparison ... on the other hand, when something is good I ignore all the better things it could have been and just accept the good that's there. Oh, and I have a dark sense of humour, so when the worst happens, I laugh at it because I find it hilarious. |
Muckraker  Posts: 349 Joined: 2 Nov 2009    | Defeat Cynicysm the only way possible. |
Infamous Scribbler  Posts: 662 Joined: 16 Mar 2008  | Haven't you heard? Cynicism is what all the cool people practice. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 355 Joined: 15 Aug 2008  | I'm a cynic myself. I don't go around hating people/things, but I do recognize that they have faults, often deep ones. I feel that is more realistic, maybe kinder, to be honest about that. I also feel that it is the idealists, who whole-heartedly devote themselves to this cause or that without pausing to consider the faults who cause much of the harm in the world. I don't hate them either, but they do make me sad. |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 403 Joined: 21 Sep 2009  | I don't hate everything, but the things that I hate, I REALLY hate. I suppose that I've got that kind of personality. For example, the people that matter to me, my wife, my parents, my kid brother, I really love and do pretty much have never thought badly of them. Even when my wife insisted that I have dinner with that smug bastard that's her boss. However, the people that I don't like I really don't like at all. This is mostly THE TERRORISTS. The rest of you lot, I have no opinion as yet, but even if I say that I'll probably not like you, I'm at least open to the possibility of being surprised. I like surprises. |
Infamous Scribbler Posts: 617 Joined: 1 Apr 2009 |
Sounds good Mr. Wuvlycuddles :) |
Paperboy  Posts: 32 Joined: 10 Sep 2008   | Reasons to be cynical: So yes the things I have issues with have reason behind them, i do not hate for the joy of it, I play with people's minds for the joy of it. -2fish |
Press Junketeer  Posts: 456 Joined: 1 Jul 2009    | Well I'm a cynic but I don't run around telling everyone how screwed we are just because of that. |
Pulitzer Laureate  Posts: 744 Joined: 8 May 2009  |
i feel that the vast majority of people and things in the world suck. i also am quite vocal about my stance on safety. take tags off everything have all stupid people kill themselves cuz they "didnt know any better" problem solved. i genuinely hate everything and everyone in a moderate amount. and im vocal about it by choice. i dont want friends, i dont want acquaintances, i dont want relationships. they all suck badly and are not up to my standards. thats in real life, online i act much less hatefilled because online i have the option of logging off closing the browser and making the annoyance go away. something i dont always have as an option in real life. |
Muckraker  Posts: 323 Joined: 18 Dec 2008    |
Pretty much this. |
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There's one thing that's really been getting on my nerves this year, and that's cynycism. I've been hearing and seeing endless amounts of people hating seemingly only for hate's sake, and it's really starting to (ironically) piss me off. In my year or so on the Escapist, I've seen plenty of it, and I just wanted to pose a question to all of you: are you a cynic by choice? Do you hate things because you enjoy it? Or are you actually difficult to please (not a flaw) and/or feel that the far majority of people and things in this world, to put it poetically, suck?
And I'm not going to lie, this post sounds a little bit self-righteous because that's currently how I feel on this subject. I'm an optimist for my species. You are welcome to try and convince me otherwise.