Is Formula 1 racing a redneck sport in Europe?

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I confirm that over here is also considered a snob sport.

And most of the discussions in the forums on my language about F1 are most likely to be about the engineering of the cars and not about the races.

dt61:
I know that in the Die Prinzen song "Mein Fahrrad" he says something about rednecks drive Fords, or something of that nature. Well that's a German band, but a lot of people in Germany use public transportation from what I hear.

Now that's an interesting one!
This song is not meant to be taken serious. Fahrrad means bicycle. The singer tells the story of a happy couple (himself an his bike) and that he loves his bike more than his wife (I'll hold fidelity to my bike, not to my wife) (blablabla...) - this song is not meant to be taken serious, as the hole band (an a-capella-band). This songtext says, that ALL types of car-drivers are idiots.

And we do indeed have rednecks - although we call them "assis" (smooth S) coming from asocial. We kinda have extremely "popular" stereotypes, but in general they just fit.

To public transportation: I do have the feeling that "we" do not use a lot of public transportation.
On the one hand, our railroads are crappy (expensive as F*ck - 45 mins (about 30 miles) about 8$), never on time, and just ugly and disgusting trains.

If you want to relate being a redneck to sports - take those guys who get wasted on soccer(we call it football)-games.

Roggen Bread:

dt61:
I know that in the Die Prinzen song "Mein Fahrrad" he says something about rednecks drive Fords, or something of that nature. Well that's a German band, but a lot of people in Germany use public transportation from what I hear.

Now that's an interesting one!
This song is not meant to be taken serious. Fahrrad means bicycle. The singer tells the story of a happy couple (himself an his bike) and that he loves his bike more than his wife (I'll hold fidelity to my bike, not to my wife) (blablabla...) - this song is not meant to be taken serious, as the hole band (an a-capella-band). This songtext says, that ALL types of car-drivers are idiots.

And we do indeed have rednecks - although we call them "assis" (smooth S) coming from asocial. We kinda have extremely "popular" stereotypes, but in general they just fit.

To public transportation: I do have the feeling that "we" do not use a lot of public transportation.
On the one hand, our railroads are crappy (expensive as F*ck - 45 mins (about 30 miles) about 8$), never on time, and just ugly and disgusting trains.

If you want to relate being a redneck to sports - take those guys who get wasted on soccer(we call it football)-games.

I remember having to listen to that song in German class and having to fill in some lyrics. I remember something about him getting drunk and hating the color brown. My German teacher was a crazy environmentalist even though he drove an SUV and never opened the windows in his room.

Sober Thal:

Kinguendo:

Sober Thal:
Does Europe have rednecks, or are they called something else? I don't mean people who are called imbeciles and what-not. Perhaps some term that isn't used in the States?

What? How would we know? I live in Britain, I dont know what the French call things. Europe is a continent, not a country.

What? Did you misread my post, or perhaps quote the wrong guy?

No, I am neither misquoting nor misreading. You are comparing a continent to a country.

Kinguendo:

Sober Thal:

Kinguendo:

Sober Thal:
Does Europe have rednecks, or are they called something else? I don't mean people who are called imbeciles and what-not. Perhaps some term that isn't used in the States?

What? How would we know? I live in Britain, I dont know what the French call things. Europe is a continent, not a country.

What? Did you misread my post, or perhaps quote the wrong guy?

No, I am neither misquoting nor misreading. You are comparing a continent to a country.

Since I'm here. While Europe is more diverse than the US, it isn't That much more diverse. Europeans don't appreciate the difference between the east coast, the west coast, the mountain states, the great lake states, the southern states, and Hawaii and Alaska. We're really quite diverse. Not to mention the southwest that is mostly Mexican at this point anyway.

Kinguendo:

Sober Thal:

Kinguendo:

Sober Thal:
Does Europe have rednecks, or are they called something else? I don't mean people who are called imbeciles and what-not. Perhaps some term that isn't used in the States?

What? How would we know? I live in Britain, I dont know what the French call things. Europe is a continent, not a country.

What? Did you misread my post, or perhaps quote the wrong guy?

No, I am neither misquoting nor misreading. You are comparing a continent to a country.

Let me rephrase then, does the westernmost peninsula of Eurasia have a term like the one used in the northern America half?

I'm not comparing anything, it's just a question.

We all know Great Britain (or as some people call it Britannia) is ruled by Lord British and depends on the Avatar (embodiment of the virtues/small kid with wind powers/blue skinned alien hippies) every so often to defeat Mondain, Minax, and their spawn, Exodus. So believe me, I know Europe isn't a country.

Sorry to confuse you.

I just wanted to know if people on the other side of the pond had a word for rednecks.

For my money, LeMans and the American LeMans series (Especially the GT classes) offer much better racing compared to F1 and NASCAR.

theevilsanta:

Since I'm here. While Europe is more diverse than the US, it isn't That much more diverse. Europeans don't appreciate the difference between the east coast, the west coast, the mountain states, the great lake states, the southern states, and Hawaii and Alaska. We're really quite diverse. Not to mention the southwest that is mostly Mexican at this point anyway.

Since youre here... you decided to say something wrong? Thats a peculiar thing to do just because you are around.

Saying Europe is a continent is by no way and indication that you needed to say any of what you said and the only person who doesnt appreciate diversity here is you. Europe isnt much more diverse than America? Could you put 2 Americans from anywhere in America into a room together and have them communicate? Yeah, thats what I thought. Kinda a different story with the rather large continent known as Europe where everyone doesnt speak English.

Sober Thal:

Let me rephrase then, does the westernmost peninsula of Eurasia have a term like the one used in the northern America half?

I'm not comparing anything, it's just a question.

We all know Great Britain (or as some people call it Britannia) is ruled by Lord British and depends on the Avatar (embodiment of the virtues/small kid with wind powers/blue skinned alien hippies) every so often to defeat Mondain, Minax, and their spawn, Exodus. So believe me, I know Europe isn't a country.

Sorry to confuse you.

I just wanted to know if people on the other side of the pond had a word for rednecks.

So you mean the United Kingdom? Why didnt you just say that?

no im from europe and its quite classy(compared to nascar) in some ways because from what ive seen is just crashes and rednecks shouting but the real redneck sport in england is rugby

because hes using a wikipedia type approach to his overly complex comment

Musiclly enhanced:
no im from europe and its quite classy(compared to nascar) in some ways because from what ive seen is just crashes and rednecks shouting but the real redneck sport in england is rugby

I wouldn't say that rugby was a 'redneck' sport at all. I'm not sure in what context it could be deemed as one as in my experience both its players and spectators don't generally fall into that category or its possible British counterpart (chav).
If of cause you are referring specifically to rugby league and ignoring rugby union then I am more inclined to agree, however I am not sure that the term 'redneck' can truly be used to describe anything or anyone from Britain, it being a term not really relevant to Britain.

JourneyThroughHell:

Zetona:

At least NASCAR lets drivers pass each other. (I watch both series religiously.)

Is that a subtle poke at the Schumacher-Alonso incident at Monaco this year or just an outright comment on Monaco and Singapore every year?

It's less that than the fact that for all the incredible drama this season has provided, I don't think we've seen a lead change that did not involve pit stops or the leader having trouble since Turkey.

Singapore this year though was fantastic, but I remember most of the passes being Kubica's after he got fresh tires.

Sigh.

Allow this mildly annoyed hillbilly to enlighten you pitiful euros/city folk.

Redneck =/= Chav/Bogan/Pikey/Whateverthefucktermyouuseinyourcountry.

White Trash = Chav/Bogan/Pikey/Whateverthefucktermyouuseinyourcountry.

Christ almighty, just because the people in cities use it as a derogatory term doesn't mean it actually is. I know people who fall under the term Redneck who are engineers for shits sake.

NASCAR is seen as a redneck sport because it's originally from the south and was started by a bunch of moonshiners. NOT because of the assholes who watch it, as it's popular all over the country, and I'm fairly certain it gets decent ratings in Mexico and Canada as well.

However, to make it more interesting, invert the nothing but ovals w/ 2 or three road courses a year scenario and you'd have a very interesting and competitive racing series.

Onto F1, I try to catch the races when they actually air them in America, just like I do any of the other racing series that don't get much airtime here (That includes Rally, GT and Endurance racing), however it isn't that different from NASCAR.

F1 is like the highest class of racing.

the rich people sport. $30k brakes. and like almost everything in racing its replaced after every race.

hrm i suppose im owned on that one but i have no idea about the difference between rugby union and leuge and being from yorkshire most people that are into rugby are well chavs

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hrm i suppose im owned on that one but i have no idea about the difference between rugby union and leuge and being from yorkshire most people that are into rugby are well chavs

Rugby union is the real gentleman's contact sport, with rucks and mauls resulting after tackles. It's also the one you hear about when you hear about international rugby on the news. I played this one. I wasn't very good.

Rugby league is more associated with the industrial cities. Instead of rucks and mauls after tackles, they have play-the-ball. Rugby league is often disparaged by rugby union players, many of them coming from the British public school tradition.

As for the question posited in the original post, Formula One is treated as anything but a redneck sport. Because of the huge amount of technical detail, the huge costs and the traditions of this sort of racing dating back to the pre-war European Championship, which would only have been open to the rich, Formula One has never had any chavvery about it in general.

No, it's the kind of sport that a single father with an 11 year old son will visit in the rain.

They usually take visits to harbours to see old ships when they're not busy in the loft building things out of Lego or gluing a model plane together. The kid has no friends and he has blond hair, the dad is balding and he works in a fruit machine factory. The mother died/left very early on, the dad only has his son left in his life.

...

That was an accurate description, right? This was what it was like in 1998.

Hockey and soccer are

Fozza:
It's not a redneck sport I suppose. In sweden it's not very popular however, or that is, as far as I know. You see it regularly on the T.V but no one actually seem to watch it.

Yeah our country is full of technophobic ballkicking retards with no brains.

It's not white-trash NASCAR. Soccer and Icehockey are our white-trash sports.

No, not at all. If anything, football is, but that has too large a fanbase to be exclusively moronic. Although, they like football, so you never know...

Sober Thal:
Does Europe have rednecks, or are they called something else? I don't mean people who are called imbeciles and what-not. Perhaps some term that isn't used in the States?

EDIT: Chav, got it, thanks to the many who replied to me.

A chav is not a redneck...

A chav is a bro...

RAKtheUndead:

Musiclly enhanced:
hrm i suppose im owned on that one but i have no idea about the difference between rugby union and leuge and being from yorkshire most people that are into rugby are well chavs

Rugby union is the real gentleman's contact sport, with rucks and mauls resulting after tackles. It's also the one you hear about when you hear about international rugby on the news.

To quote an old guy from my old club:

"Union is where you'll see Doctors, Lawyers, Engineers and Associate Professors at their most violent and vicious... outside of a professional conference, anyway."

Th3Ch33s3Cak3:
inb4 Alonso is faster than you.
Anyway, I don't think so. There aren't many fans where I live.

Oh dear Lord, what a necro...
This thread has been dead for 2 years, did you really have to resurrect it?
Great, now someone get the holy water please, I shall get the bible and the stone salt.

In Finland it's not
There's a saying in Finland that goes something like "working out smells like sweat, sport smells like gasoline"
Many people in Finland follow formula no matter what kind of guy/gal you are
I don't but many do
So from Finland as a whole I'd have to say no

No, I'd actually say F1 is one of the most upmarket sports. Also it's a worldwide sport, not solely European although it is dominated by European drivers.

Blame:
Proper Football (Soccer,) is the equivilent of what you're looking for, specifically English football.

huh?? I agree that you get a lot of hooligans in football (although there are many intelligent fans as well) but why English football specifically? If anything English football is one of the best in terms of the fans. There's so much racism elsewhere, especially in Eastern Europe and Italy.

edit: just realised how old this thread is

lol

Actually, there is a nascar series in Europe called euro racecar. The difference is that nobody has never heard of it, I only found out about it during the last Race of Champions.

I always thought that if you were gonna call any (English) pundits redneck-equivalents it'd be the ones who watch Darts.

Also Football (as is said of Football and Rugby - The former is a gent's game played by thugs and the latter's a thug's game played by gents)

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Guys, GUYS, let it go. The thread is close to being a two and a half years old corpse. It doesn't care about what you think - the flesh has already rotted off it, so it doesn't have ears to listen to you.

God damnit. Just responded to a post nearly three years old.

I really need to check these thread dates.

Edit - damn someone raised a thread from the dead.

It's not really considered a red neck sport here, unlike Nascar. Given the amount of technical knowledge and engineering work that goes into Formula. I mean that as no disrespect to Nascar (tbh I know very little of it), just that Nascar seems like a more accessible motor sport compared to F1. At least from my observations it seems a group of mechanics with enough know how could put together a car to compete in Nascar, where you would need several millions to fund a barely passable F1 team.

I personally enjoy watching F1, well at least until it becomes obvious who is going to win and I can't route for the underdog anymore. So depending on the season my interest in F1 lasts for about 4-9 races :P

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DoPo:
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Guys, GUYS, let it go. The thread is close to being a two and a half years old corpse. It doesn't care about what you think - the flesh has already rotted off it, so it doesn't have ears to listen to you.

Oh god damn it!

You are certainly a master a spotting the necro threads DoPo. You must one day train me in the art of basic observational skills :P

hudsonzero:

Sober Thal:

hudsonzero:
well in England it depends on where your closer to scottland or dover on who you insult

Is the term redneck used? My ignorance led me to believe it was an American term not used by others.

no we don't use the term "redneck" the closest term we use varies from county to county. but the most common one is chav

The Closes thing to a Redneck in Europe is a Traveler, Gypsies, Pikey, whatever you want to call them.

Chav is similar to the American Jock, only the subculture takes cues from British Grime, and UK Garage music.

Edit: O.O ...The message is three years old, god damn you necrophiliacs.

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