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Metric must rule!
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No, imperial's better!
10.1% (107)
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I know metric's better, but I don't want to learn.
6.4% (68)
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Nah, let's use cubits again...
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Poll: I hate the imperial system. America, I'm looking at you! Give it up, metric is simply better!!!!

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canadian i use imperial for people weight and height but that is pretty much it. i am a terrible judge of units to real life though so it wouldn't really matter i would still have no idea

Canadian here! Metric all the way! Kilometers and centimeters are cool! XD

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Technically America switched to the metric system in the 70's and everyone ignored it. Here's an old vid by the Washington Post that talks about the current transition.

Now here I shall add unnecessary diatribes to ensure I meet the standards of The Escapist for incoherent rambling

Metric shot my father and kidnapped my sister

The metric system is just another measuring system the way that Communism is just another way to live

I can pound the pavement in America but can they kilogram the road in Europe?

Metric, I mean cmon the WHOLE rest of the world uses it. Why would you want to keep using a out of whack system with shenanigan conversions when you could use super easy metric measurements. Everytime americans mock me for living in canada with my crazy booze prices and bagged milk, I can still play the Imperial measurement card.

lacktheknack:

emeraldrafael:
B) Yes really. And you know why? You go from pounds to metric tons. POUNDS to METRIC TONS (2000 lbs. = 1 MT). How is that not a nice even number? its not a nice round number, and when you have to go from one to the other (as I had to do constantly in Chemistry and Physics), its nice to have nice even numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonne

..............

Wow.

Then its been changed. cause I always remmebered using 2000 lbs in a ton.

Besides, I'll still stand by it that Imperial weight system is much easier then Metric weight system. and height too. And length. you know, the normal stuff that every day people use.

lacktheknack:

emeraldrafael:
B) Yes really. And you know why? You go from pounds to metric tons. POUNDS to METRIC TONS (2000 lbs. = 1 MT). How is that not a nice even number? its not a nice round number, and when you have to go from one to the other (as I had to do constantly in Chemistry and Physics), its nice to have nice even numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonne

..............

Wow.

Lawyered!

AvsJoe:
Other American habits have rubbed off on me as well, like "Y'all", my general ignorance of other cultures, and "soda".

To be fair, only a few Americans say "Y'all" and the general ignorance part is basically a world wide problem. Clearly shown by you lumping all our nation together as not knowing any other cultures properly and having the same accent.

Back to subject, last time I checked most Americans use both systems. I prefer metric for lab measurements but I like imperial better for day to day life. It may not be as precise but when it comes to things that don't need specifics that's not really a problem for me. Really I don't see what there is to bitch about. If you don't like it then don't use it. If your country isn't using it anyway then no problem.

emeraldrafael:

lacktheknack:

emeraldrafael:
B) Yes really. And you know why? You go from pounds to metric tons. POUNDS to METRIC TONS (2000 lbs. = 1 MT). How is that not a nice even number? its not a nice round number, and when you have to go from one to the other (as I had to do constantly in Chemistry and Physics), its nice to have nice even numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonne

..............

Wow.

Then its been changed. cause I always remmebered using 2000 lbs in a ton.

Are you sure you aren't thinking of the imperial ton?

After all, a metric ton is technically called a "tonne".

Besides, I'll still stand by it that Imperial weight system is much easier then Metric weight system. and height too. And length. you know, the normal stuff that every day people use.

Weight, yes. Others, no. But hey, you stand by what you learn.

XT inc:
Metric, I mean cmon the WHOLE rest of the world uses it. Why would you want to keep using a out of whack system with shenanigan conversions when you could use super easy metric measurements. Everytime americans mock me for living in canada with my crazy booze prices and bagged milk, I can still play the Imperial measurement card.

It may be bizarre to the rest of the world but only because they don't use it. We've always used it. So it makes sense to us. Why change to a system most of us NEVER use in daily life? Unneeded confusion is all that is.

It's not really feasible to change it all. Further, while people can learn it, that doesn't mean it won't be more of a pain to use in day to day life. I know the metric system quite well, but I can't tell what a meter is relative to an actual real world distance that I see. I've been conditioned to using feet for that. Meters I can do on paper, but any real life connection just doesn't happen for me since I haven't used it for that my entire life. And as it is I'm bad enough at estimating distances and the like when using the imperial system XP

I like the metric system for the most part the numbers are so nice and even. It's just I've grown accumstumed to using Imperial so that's what I use. Really the the only thing I prefer in the Imperial system is the temperature, those wo I think can (or at least SHOULD) happily live side by side.

lacktheknack:
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Alright. Fine. As long as you acknowledge that it has its high points. I'm not saying Metric's evil, just that its bullshit for other countries to expect the US to jump to it for them. And I'll admit, I like to use it when measuring volume under cups (miligrams and such, like in medicine).

Though I still say that saying miles is better then Kilometers. IN both distance and speed.

Radeonx:
Because we are America, and we use whatever the fuck we want because we can.

Thus ends this thread. I really don't get this British hostility towards our (read: the awesome) way of measurement, but it is all over these forums. We will drive on the right side, measure our progress in miles, and fill up our gas tanks in gallons. We watch TV, not telly, and only put one 'i' in 'aluminum'. You know why? Because we want to do it that way. Why can't you leave our national differences alone? All the important stuff (science, architecture, military) is universally measured by the metric system, anyway.

Until you add a "screw you, there's nothing 'superior' about a given system of measurement", I'm not voting.

More America bashing nice. You realize it's used by people here because the schools teach it because it's the federal governments standard.

So we use it because we're forced to learn it.

I do think metric is far better though since everything is in 10's instead of crap but c'mon it's not because we're ALL stupid.

Our military uses it.

That same military that can kick your countries ass.

we do what we want!

problem, Europe????

We didn't listen when you called it Football(it's soccer), and we ain't listenin' now!

Canid117:

America laughs at your feeble metric system!

You managed to post this before me...

why not just phase it in like i think you already are. but with a more detailed plan. like start teaching all new student so like year 1 metric system and continue this up through the years so in 10 to 12 years you have every year in the schools learning metric and going out into the real world.

AnythingOutstanding:
Yes, we should spend the billions necessary to re label all objects to follow the metric system.

*slaps forehead*

billions i think not. just add metric alongside imperial like they do over in the uk, label one side of a foot long ruler in inches, and the other in centimeters/millimeters, turn it around when necessary.

I think most speed gauges are in both systems in cars so very little needs to be done there all people need to know is a mile is 1 and 3/5ths of a km so a 20 mile journey works out at 32km.

all food in the usa is required to be labeled in metric and imperial, so there's no problem there, besides the measurements all that's needed there is, again a second scale or a label on set amounts ie a us tablespoon is ~15ml. a fl oz. is ~30 (29.6)ml. a gallon ~3.8l or for simplicities sake 4l. an ounce is ~30g (28.35g). etc

i think all people need to know to change is a real world grounding in what constitutes each measurement ie the knowledge that a manhattan city block is 80m by 270m, that a m is 1/10th longer than a yard. stuff like that

Snotnarok:
More America bashing nice. You realize it's used by people here because the schools teach it because it's the federal governments standard.

So we use it because we're forced to learn it.

I do think metric is far better though since everything is in 10's instead of crap but c'mon it's not because we're ALL stupid.

Mate, I'm not saying Americans are stupid! Not at all. I'm sure I could come up with a few idiot Americans to try to defend the indefencible, only to get ninja'd by many, many examples to the contrary. (infact, my grandpa was American)

My point is it's really only the U.S.A. that insists on continued use of the imperial system in fields such as mechanics and engineering. Which is neither helpful to Americans nor the rest of the world.

We used metric in every one of my labs in college, and I assumed that it was becoming more widely used (even some of my cookbooks list ingredient amounts in grams and mLs rather than just ounces and cups.) So yeah, it's time the rest of the country got on board IMO.

I do enjoy the metric system, with the exception of temperature. I don't care how well it matches up, I will never feel right saying that the temperature is a comfortable 27 degrees outside.

Radeonx:
Because we are America, and we use whatever the fuck we want because we can.
If you disagree you clearly hate freedom and are a communist, socialist, or some evil combination of the two.

this.

also, your options are all either: your right, or your mostly right, or your right but im stupid, or lets go back to a very old form of measurement. so you suck.

coldfrog:
I do enjoy the metric system, with the exception of temperature. I don't care how well it matches up, I will never feel right saying that the temperature is a comfortable 27 degrees outside.

I wouldn't feel right saying that either, because 27 degrees celsius is uncomfortably hot. Maybe I just think that because I live in Canada. My preferred temperature is probably around 10-20 degrees celsius. I have no idea what that is in fahrenheit.

OT: Yeah, metric's awesome. Isn't America the only country in the world that uses Imperial?

coldfrog:
I do enjoy the metric system, with the exception of temperature. I don't care how well it matches up, I will never feel right saying that the temperature is a comfortable 27 degrees outside.

thats rather odd i feel exactly the same about fahrenheit hahaha. everytime i see 60 degrees on a thermometer i think its broken or i am one or the other hahaha

If the metric system were truly better than America would use it.
America is the best country on earth, therefore everything we do is the right choice.

How about you simply let other countries use whatever system of measure they want to?

ApeShapeDeity:

Snotnarok:
More America bashing nice. You realize it's used by people here because the schools teach it because it's the federal governments standard.

So we use it because we're forced to learn it.

I do think metric is far better though since everything is in 10's instead of crap but c'mon it's not because we're ALL stupid.

Mate, I'm not saying Americans are stupid! Not at all. I'm sure I could come up with a few idiot Americans to try to defend the indefencible, only to get ninja'd by many, many examples to the contrary. (infact, my grandpa was American)

My point is it's really only the U.S.A. that insists on continued use of the imperial system in fields such as mechanics and engineering. Which is neither helpful to Americans nor the rest of the world.

I wasn't referring to you, there's a few posts I read though.

Either way I'm not offended(hard to do that), "standard" is just dumb and anyone who defends it just hasn't looked into how metric works enough. Everything is made to be easy and in 10's, easy is good. But no standard is better because it's by ...well depends on what you're looking at! Isn't complexity fun?

ApeShapeDeity:
I'm an engineer. Imperial measurement is crap. It's nowhere near as useful as a simple base 10 numeric system.

'Pass me an 11/15ths socket please...?'

Come to think of it, it's not just distance. Weight also. Grams. So simple. It translates well through from tiny amounts to colossal masses.

Measure temperatures in centigrade. It's so much more practical! 0 deg C, is freezing, 100 deg C is boiling (water @ 1 ATM) If you don't like that, then at least use kelvin.

Surely the American scientific community use metric? Why can't the rest of America just get on board with the rest of the world?

In short, imperial sucks. Let it die.

Edit: there you go spell, nazis... happy? I've fixed the odd mistake and typo. BTW C.o.l.o.u.r. :P

P.S. I have no problem with the conversational use of imperial units. It's where, I believe we need a standard, global system for engineering and science.

Did you know there metric time?. 10 hours in a day. 100 minutes to an hour. 100 seconds to a minute off the top of my head. I don't use it but I have a watch for the sheer novelty of it.

I would agree that metric has to be a simpler standard to use, but I've already learned the imperial system so fuck learning everything again in metric. I'll stick with imperial for the time being!

TestECull:
How about you simply let other countries use whatever system of measure they want to?

theres a reason why that logic while sound in theory is flawed. conversion between measurements introduces inaccuracies into the measurement itself resulting in a lack of precision. think of it like using google translate to translate this sentence in to german and then back again. (Fyi you get this: "Think of it as with Google Translate to translate this sentence in German and then back again.") this is hell for anyone having to use them daily.

tldr; the push for total usage of the Si system is as noble as the push for a unifying human language, but much much easier to implement. if everyone uses the same system everyone knows exactly what they purchase / distance crossed/

edit: made first sentence make relative sense

See, I never really SAW the metric system until, like, high school, so it'd be confusing to me to adjust to using it. Still, I do acknowledge that metric makes WAY more sense.

modern professional scientists do use metric, and i agree that imperial is effed up.
also, radeonx is just ignorant. ignore him

Citizen Snips:
I'm tired of hearing this stupid argument.

For the United States to switch to metric, Every factory and manufacturer would have to switch to metric at the exact same time for it to work. If one part of the manufacturing process went to metric and the other used standard measurements, then the entire production would be off. It's not that most of us don't want to switch. It's simply an impossible task.

On top of that every piece of machinery in the United States that uses Standard measurements would have to be destroyed, since it would be impossible to find tools to fix them.

So in short, yes metric is very nice and is more exact; however, for us to do so would mean the destruction and obsoletion of the largest amount of equipment in the world overnight.

This. It's the exact same reason why all of our power lines use much more energy than in Europe. As of right now, both are completely unfeasible to change to match the global standard.

Radeonx:
Because we are America, and we use whatever the fuck we want because we can.
If you disagree you clearly hate freedom and are a communist, socialist, or some evil combination of the two.

You Fail Logic Forever.

Specifically, Appeal To Authority and False Dichotomy.

This is the kind of bad logic which theists are notorious for using when trying to argue in favour of a god, and believe me, I've heard plenty of those.

I wonder if there's a relationship between the excessive power wielded by the religious in America and the stubborn refusal to update their measurements?

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