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Metric must rule!
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No, imperial's better!
10.1% (107)
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I know metric's better, but I don't want to learn.
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Nah, let's use cubits again...
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Poll: I hate the imperial system. America, I'm looking at you! Give it up, metric is simply better!!!!

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in most of Europe we use Metric its ALLOT easier and its pretty weird its not used in the USA yet (or atleast in Engineering with Germany having the best machines and all)

Citizen Snips:
I'm tired of hearing this stupid argument.

For the United States to switch to metric, Every factory and manufacturer would have to switch to metric at the exact same time for it to work. If one part of the manufacturing process went to metric and the other used standard measurements, then the entire production would be off. It's not that most of us don't want to switch. It's simply an impossible task.

On top of that every piece of machinery in the United States that uses Standard measurements would have to be destroyed, since it would be impossible to find tools to fix them.

So in short, yes metric is very nice and is more exact; however, for us to do so would mean the destruction and obsoletion of the largest amount of equipment in the world overnight.

You do realize that the equipment would at most need to be relabeled, right? I mean, the devices don't change, the sizes don't change. You just need to fix gauges and scales. And even then you don't need everything to happen overnight.

The imperial system is lame. Some sort of weird measurement units you just wouldn't come up even if drunk and on drugs. Ever.

They should just start teaching it properly at school for them to see how many times simpler it is.

Also, the frack are the people talking about throwing away equipment and an apocalyptic problems of mass destruction? All devices can be calibrated. Most recent ones electronically... in a second... you don't need to throw anything out.

Science uses metric. Science is awesome. Therefor metric is awesome.

Problem imperial?
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AgDr_ODST:

Canid117:

AgDr_ODST:
nope....not gonna watch it...

But you must! It's Mangasmic!

if its anything like the last and the title is any indicator I'll watch Happy Tree Friends instead

You didn't really take that one seriously now did you? Or the MAN one for that matter? Or have I just been trolled myself?

Sgt. Sykes:
First, oh fuck, stop mistaking one country for a whole continent. I'm pretty sure the whole LATIN AMERICA uses the metric system. Even Canada is quite fond of the metric system. It's just the stupid US.

When people say 'The Americas' they are lumping the two continents together.

When people say 'North America' they mean the top continent, when they say 'South America' they mean the bottom one.

When people say 'America', they are not lumping both continents together- that would be saying 'The Americas'.

When people say 'America', they mean the USA. That's just how it is.

Metric all the way..

Even though I was brought up in the 1990s in England where metric and imperial systems were having one last massive dispute and so I know both systems..

Metric is hellishly easy.. thats why I like it, thats why British cars should use KPH and why Imperial measurements should die..

And the fact that time is similar to the Imperial system is not an arguement, our time is broken down into 24 hours a day and 365.25 days a year because it suits the existing Earth rotation and angle cycles.. we can't change those so human timing is good the way it is, however Imperial measuring is just a silly by-product of human timing systems..

Radeonx:
Because we are America, and we use whatever the fuck we want because we can.
If you disagree you clearly hate freedom and are a communist, socialist, or some evil combination of the two.

Mad much that your system is weird?

I am Canadian, I only realised that the Americans used the imperial system back in grade 6. This is mainly to me thinking, "Who in their right ming would use this horrible system?"

It makes sense now.

I really don't like the metric system. No real reason other than I don't care to learn it, maybe it is because everything is based on a meter. I never did like how it was centimeter or millimeter. I wounder who the guy was that said,"This is a meter and we shall divide it up by 10 and if we need it to be smaller we shall divide by ten a million more times."

I am fine with a centimeter I know its tiny distance but after that I want to know in inches if its more than 12 inches I want to know in feet. I guess that's what I like about the imperial system there's more descriptive words. In metric everything in distance is based off of a meter so half the word never changes. Might seem easier less to remember but I never liked learning that in the imperial system there were larger distances with a totally different name which was easier for me to lean at least.

One thing that I don't get and have not seen once in reading this is a decimeter. I saw millimeter, centimeter, meter, kilometer but never once the 10th of a meter. A guy said he was 193cm why not 19.3dm sounds better not such an oddly large number. For me it seems the number in metric looks and sounds to small or to big for what it stands for.

Also a road sign change from MPH to KPH would suck in my car. As my car does not have the little KPH numbers its from 1988. So if they did a switch I would never pay attention to KPH and if they did a full transition I would have a car in MPH and never know how fast I should go without memorizing a bunch of number I have no care for or do math problems while driving.

All in all though I will never use meter I'm not pursuing a carrier in science or engineering so why should I bother to make the switch because you feel what I prefer is inferior.

emeraldrafael:
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Lets hear it metric.

WE SHOULD INVENT A NEW SYSTEM FOR DAYS AND WEEKS!
We should. And then everyone should start speaking English, for it is the superior language.
I say this as a Netherlandic person.

In Britain, weight is in metric now, but distance is both. When you're travelling, it tends to be miles, not kilometres, but when measuring a room or something it can be either metres or feet.

emeraldrafael:
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I have nothing to say to this. This is hands down the most idiotic and most poorly put together argument I've ever read. Arguing with you is like arguing with a dolphin. There are suggestions of human-like intellect, but it just lacks the faculties to use any kind of understandable language.

monkey_man:

Radeonx:
Because we are America, and we use whatever the fuck we want because we can.
If you disagree you clearly hate freedom and are a communist, socialist, or some evil combination of the two.

Mad much that your system is weird?

I think he was being sarcastic

Crazy_Dude:

monkey_man:

Radeonx:
Because we are America, and we use whatever the fuck we want because we can.
If you disagree you clearly hate freedom and are a communist, socialist, or some evil combination of the two.

Mad much that your system is weird?

I think he was being sarcastic

No way :)

Given the anti-science pogrom that's currently running through America, I'd say that blissful ignorance and unwillingness to admit that you're wrong are the only reason this country doesn't switch over to a truly better system.

Standardized units between Metric and Imperial
Time, Voltage, Current, Resistance, Power(Watts), Coulombs, Hertz, Conductance, Impedance, Capacitance.

As for the ton an Imperial ton weighs 2000 lbs. A metric ton weighs 1 Megagram, or 1000 Kilograms. A kilogram weighs 2.2 pounds, so a metric ton weighs 2,200 lbs.

Om mijn punt te demonstreren zal ik gebruik maken van een andere taal. Aangezien op dit forum de afspraak bestaat om in het Engels te communiceren zal ik het echter kort houden.

In orther words: communication tends to be better when all speak the same "lingua franca". This is also the reason why the SI system was addopted.

The fact that the SI system was develloped during an age of scientific studies means it was designed to be easy to use for scientific calculations and conversions.

Note to any mod: the foreign language at the beginning was to demonstrate a point.

Miles > Kilometers.
Gallons > Liters.
And saying six feet tall just sounds better than saying one point eight two eight eight meters tall (or one meter eighty three centimeters).

More seriously though, America does use kilometers for science. In chemistry, physics, biology and math, if your professor caught you using Standard measurements he'd probably ram a meter stick down your throat. We've just been taught Standard, so we get used to it for casual measurements; driving a car, seeing how much a person weighs, etc. It's easier to conceptualize when you're just hanging around, although for any science-oriented student (or employee) in the US it's often just as easy to use the metric system. It's not "better", but its simplicity and the fact that the rest of the world uses it means that it's essential for scientific purposes. For driving a car though? I'd much prefer to say I'm going 90 miles per hour than 145 kph. For some reason it just sounds better.

That and Metric stole my car keys and ran over my dog.

vxicepickxv:
As for the ton an Imperial ton weighs 2000 lbs. A metric ton weighs 1 Megagram, or 1000 Kilograms. A kilogram weighs 2.2 pounds, so a metric ton weighs 2,200 lbs.

This is where it gets complicated. When you say 'imperial ton', you probably mean 'US ton' or 'short ton' (2000lb). What you probably don't mean is 'imperial ton' or 'long ton' (2240lb). Then there is the 'metric ton' or 'tonne'.

I'm American, and yes, Metric makes more sense, but we're never going to change. I can visualize how much a pound is in my head, but I have no idea how much 100 grams is. The change would involve a lot of problems for people who grew up with the system.

ApeShapeDeity:
I'm an engineer. Imperial measurement is crap. It's nowhere near as useful as a simple base 10 numeric system.

'Pass me an 11/15ths socket please...?'

Come to think of it, it's not just distance. Weight also. Grams. So simple. It translates well through from tiny amounts to colossal masses.

Measure temperatures in centigrade. It's so much more practical! 0 deg C, is freezing, 100 deg C is boiling (water @ 1 ATM) If you don't like that, then at least use kelvin.

Surely the American scientific community use metric? Why can't the rest of America just get on board with the rest of the world?

In short, imperial sucks. Let it die.

P.S. I have no problem with the conversational use of imperial units. It's where, I believe we need a standard, global system for engineering and science.

Edit: there you go spell, nazis... happy? I've fixed the odd mistake and typo. BTW C.o.l.o.u.r. :P

Edit 2: For further reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrication - Metrication
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system - Metric system
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_system - Imperial system

11/15 socket? Find me one of those. It goes by 32nds, 16ths, 1/4s, 1/2s...

how to switch an entire huge-ass nation to an entirely different measurement system? maybe nuke ourselves and start anew from the ashes? that would probably be best, for many things.

monkey_man:

Radeonx:
Because we are America, and we use whatever the fuck we want because we can.
If you disagree you clearly hate freedom and are a communist, socialist, or some evil combination of the two.

Mad much that your system is weird?

Oblivious much to the blatantly obvious satire?

I'm of the mind to leave it more or less how it is now. Metric is valuable when dealing with measurements as they are applied to equations - so in science, manufacturering, etc. This is attributed to its decimalised system.

The problem become for normal every day use. The Imperial measurements are all based on real world approximations. A foot is roughly two lengths of your hand. A yard is an average person's step or length of an arm. The stone, a measurement still in wide use by a lot of you complaining, is likely based on similar real world applications. The mile is about how far someone can walk in hour. This means the common person can make quick, easy and rough approximate measurements without resorting to a tool.

You want to know what metrics is based off of?

The metre was originally 1/10,000,000 distance between the North Pole and Earth's equator as measured along the meridian passing through Paris. Now it's defined as the distance light travels in a vacuum in 1⁄299,792,458 of a second.

The gram is currently defined as 1/1000th the weight of a object kept in a secure vault in France.

Yep, those are really practical...

I've been thinking about this very subject for the past couple days. Weird.

The US is completely backwards in this regard. Switch to metric already, like the rest of the world.

Good for you. The imperial system is much better then saying "I HAVE TO WALK FIFTY KILOMETERS!" What is easier and makes much more sense is this "I have to walk a few miles"

will1182:
I've been thinking about this very subject for the past couple days. Weird.

The US is completely backwards in this regard. Switch to metric already, like the rest of the world.

So if the rest of the world were to start slaughtering people....and America was against it....we should join then ;} lets not use peer pressure

theres nothing wrong with the imperial system, and as they all say, if something isn't broken don't fix it.

Skullkid4187:

will1182:
I've been thinking about this very subject for the past couple days. Weird.

The US is completely backwards in this regard. Switch to metric already, like the rest of the world.

So if the rest of the world were to start slaughtering people....and America was against it....we should join then ;} lets not use peer pressure

Yes, that's a completely fair comparison. :D

In a case like this, it would just save the world so much inconvenience if everyone used one unified system.

will1182:

Skullkid4187:

will1182:
I've been thinking about this very subject for the past couple days. Weird.

The US is completely backwards in this regard. Switch to metric already, like the rest of the world.

So if the rest of the world were to start slaughtering people....and America was against it....we should join then ;} lets not use peer pressure

Yes, that's a completely fair comparison. :D

In a case like this, it would just save the world so much inconvenience if everyone used one unified system.

so cultures have no right to be different?

wow you are upset about metric/imperial? get a real cause, most gps have converters

regardless i think you are all idiots and that we should switch to cubits, that is what is in the bible, so it must be correct

Skullkid4187:

will1182:

Skullkid4187:
So if the rest of the world were to start slaughtering people....and America was against it....we should join then ;} lets not use peer pressure

Yes, that's a completely fair comparison. :D

In a case like this, it would just save the world so much inconvenience if everyone used one unified system.

so cultures have no right to be different?

Okay man, come on. You're just twisting words now, I obviously didn't say that.

Since the US has such an influence on the rest of the world, everybody else is forced to learn two systems just because the US refuses to change. Everybody's aware of the benefits of switching, yet they stubbornly cling to their system for no apparent reason other than "It's the American way".

No one can force them to switch, but I have a right to express my displeasure.

I love Metric. Both the band and the measurement system.

Radeonx:

monkey_man:

Radeonx:
Because we are America, and we use whatever the fuck we want because we can.
If you disagree you clearly hate freedom and are a communist, socialist, or some evil combination of the two.

Mad much that your system is weird?

Oblivious much to the blatantly obvious satire?

Mate, I was trolling aswel.
good times

Engineers don't use the metric system? Scientists do, as you correctly assumed. Glad I'm majoring in Biology instead of planning on being an engineer.

Of course, if you play TF2, the only measurements an engineer really needs are "gun" and "more gun."

I live in the US and I wish we'd go metric. I work in a hospital where everything is metric, and it's nice to just have to multiply by ten for everything rather than have to stop and think, "Ok there's 2.2 wingnuts to a charleston, but 17 charlestons to a tabby" I like consistency.

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