Hentai VS Ecchi Anime, Where is the border?

I have begun to watch a lot of Anime and found a lot of those that had the "Ecchi" catagory...
A few of them took a mature look at sex, though others treated it like an easy fan service...

Then i got through one specific series.

Im Talking about The "Kiss X sis" Series...

Once i had watched that to the end i thought to myself...
"Was that... Anime, or did i just watch Softcore Hentai?"

I wont argue weather the series is good or not, its just that i got interested in the question,
"Where does the border go?"
Is it as easy just so say "If there is sex in it" or is it more refined...

What do you say? Anime lovers of the Escapist... :)

I say a little nudity is okay as long as it doesn't show full on penetration. Like Ninja Scroll. It had a sex scene but didn't show the penetration.

Hentai is porn. Ecchi is just erotic images. Upskirt, camel toe, and suggestive stuff. Hentai is when its actual sex, or sex like thing, ie penetration.

I think that the old "racy versus porn" debate comes into play. Ecchi is definitely the racy kind, and I'm sure there's a lot of overlap, so it's hard to define.

I'd say that, as a rule of thumb, if the anime tries to avoid showing anything you wouldn't see in a R-rated movie then it's ecchi. If it doesn't, hentai.

Hentai contains explicit sex scenes and graphic nudity.

Hentai, Shows tits.
Ecchi, more perverted then hentai, but doesn't show tits.
Anime, more fucked up then Ecchi, but isn't perverted and doesn't show tits.

If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard (I'm being honest I've only heard of it, I couldn't bring myself to watch any hentai seriously, closest I've come is AMV hell 0)
well I guess if it shows genitalia it counts as hentai (elven lied showed just about everything but genitals and it was called ecchi)
though I guess that it's always blurred in japan and only uncensored when shipped overseas.

Well, if it has explicit sex, its hentai, otherwise its not.

Catalyst6:

I'd say that, as a rule of thumb, if the anime tries to avoid showing anything you wouldn't see in a R-rated movie then it's ecchi. If it doesn't, hentai.

Actually, this sums it up rather easily.

Drakmeire:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard

Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?

PoisonUnagi:

Drakmeire:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard

Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?

Oh dear god... nevermind then. I've heard good things I just had no idea what it was about. guess I should have read the series list for AMV Hell /0

PoisonUnagi:

Drakmeire:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard

Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?

Bro, bro, that is like, the Romeo and Juliet of our time.

TeeBs:

PoisonUnagi:

Drakmeire:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard

Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?

Bro, bro, that is like, the Romeo and Juliet of our time.

IF YOU ARE FUCKING CRAZY!
Ahem... I watched the whole series of Kiss X Sis and oddly enough, no nudity, I was expecting it by the 3rd episode based on the premise alone but yeah its weird.
Though one scene they do get it on (One of the OVA's), its like Barbie and Ken except more suggestive.

I believe the difference is that Hentai would be considered pornographic while Ecchi would not. While Ecchi is certainly sexual at times, it doesn't get into anything explicit.

Exposed genitalia is the border.

I'm pretty sure that's the actual rule.

TeeBs:

PoisonUnagi:

Drakmeire:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard

Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?

Bro, bro, that is like, the Romeo and Juliet of our time.

Seriously. In fact, to get the full depth of the story, you should see it in the original Klingon.

Andreas55k:
I have begun to watch a lot of Anime and found a lot of those that had the "Ecchi" catagory...
A few of them took a mature look at sex, though others treated it like an easy fan service...

Then i got through one specific series.

Im Talking about The "Kiss X sis" Series...

Once i had watched that to the end i thought to myself...
"Was that... Anime, or did i just watch Softcore Hentai?"

I wont argue weather the series is good or not, its just that i got interested in the question,
"Where does the border go?"
Is it as easy just so say "If there is sex in it" or is it more refined...

What do you say? Anime lovers of the Escapist... :)

For me it's the intent. Ecchi is usually playful, crude, but not overly sexual in intent. Whereas hentai goes right for the foreplay/intercourse, and will typically show more nudity or at least more sexual acts being depicted in conjunction with said nudity. Whereas Ecchi doesn't cross that barrier or combine the aforementioned 2 in order to cross into hentai at all. :3

Just my 2 dimples. :3

PoisonUnagi:

Drakmeire:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard

Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?

Weird doesn't equal bad. How does any of that lead you to believe Bible Black has a bad story?

Simple. If it shows graphically explicit acts of sex, then it's hentai. Echhi would be more PG-13 or rated R, while hentai would be NC-17 or rated X.

PoisonUnagi:

Drakmeire:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard

Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?

Walpurgisnacht? I thought anime was Japanese, not German. >.>

Blitzwing:

PoisonUnagi:

Drakmeire:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard

Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?

Weird doesn't equal bad. How does any of that lead you to believe Bible Black has a bad story?

Because there's a plothole in which the characters arbitrarily have sex with someone they're deliberately trying not to have sex with?

That's a pretty fucking terrible storyline already.

LetalisK:

PoisonUnagi:

Drakmeire:
If it shows graphic sex acts than it is hentai. but who says hentai can't tell a story? Bible Black tells a good story, or so I've heard

Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?

Walpurgisnacht? I thought anime was Japanese, not German. >.>

Anime is Japanese, but Bible Black is, at its core, about [s]sex[/i] satanism. Walpurgisnacht is a satanic holiday that's effectively worldwide by now.

I don't like Hentai it's all graphic sex acts. Yes you can find one or two that are funny but I don't think you should try and find them it will mess you up.

Ecchi on the hand is funny and it can at times border on Hentai. The best way I can describe Ecchi is it shows sex without showing you anything. A grate Ecchi Anime is Hight School of the Dead check it out.

cocoro67:

Ahem... I watched the whole series of Kiss X Sis and oddly enough, no nudity, I was expecting it by the 3rd episode based on the premise alone but yeah its weird.
Though one scene they do get it on (One of the OVA's), its like Barbie and Ken except more suggestive.

Kiss X Sis is pretty awesome.

OH FOR THE STORY OF COURSE.

Hachibi:
I don't like Hentai it's all graphic sex acts. Yes you can find one or two that are funny but I don't think you should try and find them it will mess you up.

Ecchi on the hand is funny and it can at times border on Hentai. The best way I can describe Ecchi is it shows sex without showing you anything. A grate Ecchi Anime is Hight School of the Dead check it out.

I guess i will :)

The border is between clothe and body. ^_^

Andreas55k:
I have begun to watch a lot of Anime and found a lot of those that had the "Ecchi" catagory...
A few of them took a mature look at sex, though others treated it like an easy fan service...

Then i got through one specific series.

Im Talking about The "Kiss X sis" Series...

Once i had watched that to the end i thought to myself...
"Was that... Anime, or did i just watch Softcore Hentai?"

I wont argue weather the series is good or not, its just that i got interested in the question,
"Where does the border go?"
Is it as easy just so say "If there is sex in it" or is it more refined...

What do you say? Anime lovers of the Escapist... :)

I think the main and only meaningful difference between Hentai and other Anime including the "Ecchi" stuff is the amount of synergy between the agenda of the creators of the product in terms of relaying certain ideas and attitudes vs how those ideas and attitudes are actually communicated to the audience, with Hentai having a far higher amount of integrity in this regard than the other forms.

PoisonUnagi:

Blitzwing:

PoisonUnagi:

Where the hell did you hear that? The storyline revolves around a shemale trying to find a virgin to sacrifice before Walpurgisnacht. And it's brought down even more by the fact that she has sex with the virgin before sacrificing her. How the hell is that supposed to make sense?

Weird doesn't equal bad. How does any of that lead you to believe Bible Black has a bad story?

Because there's a plothole in which the characters arbitrarily have sex with someone they're deliberately trying not to have sex with?

That's a pretty fucking terrible storyline already.

Not to butt in, because I also think Bible Black is terrible.

What you mentioned though isn't a plot hole. A plot hole would be if they ramped up the need for a virgin sacrifice, ended up fucking her anyway, then the sacrifice still worked even though she wasn't a virgin.

That would be the plot hole. The fact they sexed her instead of using her as a sacrifice just means they couldn't contain their lust or whatevs and failed their objective.

Actually I dont mind any of these but isnt hentai like really bad anime and ecchi is like hentai exept done GOOD and without the use of penetration of showing of the sex or gentials and hey sometimes ecchi shows boobs too, but I dont mind if it does have sex or not, it makes it more intresting and fun for the viewers....well it does matter what you like and dislike..

EDIT: AND why are we talking about bible black?

If deviantArt allows it, it's ecchi. If not, it's hentai.

 

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