Laws you disagree with?

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Blitzwing:

Kwaren:
I don't like the mandatory seat belt laws. It's my body, let me put it through a windshield if I want to.

I'm so tired of this just because it's your body doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want to it they're limits to these kinds of things you know.

One word only.
Why?

Vandy:
The ones that say I gotta wear pants when I leave the house. What's up with that?

I know right?

My pant less nudity is me giving back to the community.

Kwaren:
Ok... What if your drugs come into contact with someone who is allergic? Is that still your fault?

Clearly not. They know what they're buying and if they're allergic then they shouldn't do them.

You don't blame companies that handle marked wheat products when someone allergic to wheat eats it, why should you do the same with drugs?

Now drugs that have been cut with something that a person is allergic to is different. In that case the dealer is in the wrong.

I understand your wish to have control over your body with the seatbelt thing. My problem is that 10 stone+ of a person is going to do a lot of damage to the guys in the other car (or even just property) if they go through the windscreen even at 30mph. It'd be like getting hit by a cannonball. A cannonball that you didn't choose to hit you.

erztez:

Blitzwing:

Kwaren:
I don't like the mandatory seat belt laws. It's my body, let me put it through a windshield if I want to.

I'm so tired of this just because it's your body doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want to it they're limits to these kinds of things you know.

One word only.
Why?

Because there are limitations to everything including rights. There's no such thing as absolute freedom.

I'm a libertarian, so there are simply too many to name.

I'd like if gun laws would pick a side: let US citizens (who otherwise aren't prohibited from owning weapons) to own any weapon that serves a military use, or any weapon that doesn't serve a military use. Right now, automatics are restricted because they're military weapons, and short-barreled weapons are restricted because they're not military weapons. Pick a damn side, legislature.

Well, if we're talking about America, then not being able to drink until you're 21. You can go ahead and fight for you're country, but we don't trust you enough to have a sip of beer. And the thing is that countryies that have more leniant or no drinking laws at all tend to have less problems with alcohol and drunk driving. You know, cause that means when teenagers take they're first sip of beer they're parents are there to watch over them.

I disagree with most laws. See, the problem is that the moment a guideline becomes a law, someone must enforce it. But most of the world's police are occupied with enforcing those that are not important/mostly based on bigotry or false impressions, like illegal marijuana (for most countries), instead of protecting people.

@Kwaren: The thing with marijuana and allergies is that, for one, being allergic to CBD/THC (the psychoactive compounds of marijuana) is very rare, and also, I don't believe that we should outlaw natural products based on allergies. We live in nature, and we must learn to survive in it - not protect ourselves from it!

Fuel economy requirements, mandatory electronic AIDS fitted to cars, the Patriot act and anything like it, and the horribly broken American copyright laws.

Kwaren:
I don't like the mandatory seat belt laws. It's my body, let me put it through a windshield if I want to.

Then you better be able to pay for my radiator when your lifeless corpse takes it out. Seat belt laws aren't for your safety, they're so that when you rear-end someone you don't cause an even bigger crash thunking into oncoming traffic.

Im amazed at the amount of people who are wanting less drug control especially for Cannabis.
Im a Special Constable (volunteer Police officer) and the amount of people who do stupid moronic things when stoned is definatly more for me then it is for drinking (I do the Friday/saturday evening shifts in a party town so i know what im talking about) seeing people climb up walls and buildings "cause I can!" whilst off their faces with god knows what annoys me.

I know A lot of people do stupid things when drunk (I have been one of them) but Alchohol doesn't trap as many people into addiction as do illegal drugs as they would if they were legal.

Also remember kids every time you buy Heroin you've funded the IED's that wound/kill/traumatise ISAF soldiers.
The drug trade is a killer stop it.

TestECull:
Fuel economy requirements, mandatory electronic AIDS fitted to cars, the Patriot act and anything like it, and the horribly broken American copyright laws.

Kwaren:
I don't like the mandatory seat belt laws. It's my body, let me put it through a windshield if I want to.

Then you better be able to pay for my radiator when your lifeless corpse takes it out. Seat belt laws aren't for your safety, they're so that when you rear-end someone you don't cause an even bigger crash thunking into oncoming traffic.

If I'm dead, Why do I care about your car?

Blitzwing:

erztez:

Blitzwing:

I'm so tired of this just because it's your body doesn't give you the right to do whatever you want to it they're limits to these kinds of things you know.

One word only.
Why?

Because there are limitations to everything including rights. There's no such thing as absolute freedom.

Of course not, "my freedom to punch you in the face ends when my fist connects with your face, then it's infringing on your right not to get punched"

However, what I want to do to MYSELF, without affecting anyone else, is my goddamn business.

Burs:

Also remember kids every time you buy Heroin you've funded the IED's that wound/kill/traumatise ISAF soldiers.
The drug trade is a killer stop it.

Just to say...if you legalize heroin, wouldn't that mean that big pharma company would start producing it, hence cutting off the main money supply to the people that make said IED's?

Absolutely, stop the drug trade. Make it legal.

erztez:

Blitzwing:

erztez:

One word only.
Why?

Because there are limitations to everything including rights. There's no such thing as absolute freedom.

Of course not, "my freedom to punch you in the face ends when my fist connects with your face, then it's infringing on your right not to get punched"

However, what I want to do to MYSELF, without affecting anyone else, is my goddamn business.

Almost everything can have a negative affect on someone else.

Burs:
Im amazed at the amount of people who are wanting less drug control especially for Cannabis.
Im a Special Constable (volunteer Police officer) and the amount of people who do stupid moronic things when stoned is definatly more for me then it is for drinking (I do the Friday/saturday evening shifts in a party town so i know what im talking about) seeing people climb up walls and buildings "cause I can!" whilst off their faces with god knows what annoys me.

I know A lot of people do stupid things when drunk (I have been one of them) but Alchohol doesn't trap as many people into addiction as do illegal drugs as they would if they were legal.

Also remember kids every time you buy Heroin you've funded the IED's that wound/kill/traumatise ISAF soldiers.
The drug trade is a killer stop it.

It is very important to differinate between cannabis and hard drugs, for a number of reasons. For example, unlike heroin and meth and similar drugs, there are no chemical compounds in cannabis that will make you addicted - being addicted to cannabis is only possible in the same degree as, say, carrots or somesuch.

Second, the psychoactive chemical compounds in cannabis rarely induce the behaviour you describe in young people - it is likely that the people you describe have either been on other drugs or have been under the influence of both cannabis and alcohol - which feels different, but is not altogether very different from just being drunk. Or they might just have been morons and on drugs :)

Marijuana should be legal. No matter what people try to say about it, it has never directly been a cause of death, it does not cause violence, and unless used very frequently, it pretty much has no negative effect.

Alcohol poisoning kills people, alcohol makes people violent, lose jobs, ruins relationships, causes domestic violence etc.

Alcohol being legal and weed not being legal is the single most stupid law around, and proves that morality has nothing to do with it - it's all about the high taxes on alcohol and how the economy of every country depends on it.

Mr. Omega:
The fact that you can legally own a tank, but not marijuana. Seriously.

This made me laugh. I would add that you can own a minigun that can fire 1000 rounds a minute as long as it was produced before 1989 (in America).

I would like to see a lot of drugs legalised (I have more of a problem with drug dealers than drugs). I'm not sure what the sentences are though for selling/using rohypnal but they need to be very high.

Minimum mandatory sentences for fraud (I'm looking at you, MP's who make the legislation so not to prosecute yourselves).

Blitzwing:

erztez:

Blitzwing:

Because there are limitations to everything including rights. There's no such thing as absolute freedom.

Of course not, "my freedom to punch you in the face ends when my fist connects with your face, then it's infringing on your right not to get punched"

However, what I want to do to MYSELF, without affecting anyone else, is my goddamn business.

Almost everything can have a negative affect on someone else.

So, I should just sit at home and don't breathe coz I might be using someone elses oxygen? Sorry, but that sentence is just pure stupid.

Gun laws (as in, make them illegal), tobacco laws, and marijuana laws.

Why are people allowed to own and wield assault rifles?? in what situation would you ever need to kill more than five people in self defense?

to clarify, I wold want to ilegalize cigarettes but keep cigars and pipes legal because they are cool.

I'm not really having that many problems with Dutch laws.

Kwaren:

TestECull:
Fuel economy requirements, mandatory electronic AIDS fitted to cars, the Patriot act and anything like it, and the horribly broken American copyright laws.

Kwaren:
I don't like the mandatory seat belt laws. It's my body, let me put it through a windshield if I want to.

Then you better be able to pay for my radiator when your lifeless corpse takes it out. Seat belt laws aren't for your safety, they're so that when you rear-end someone you don't cause an even bigger crash thunking into oncoming traffic.

If I'm dead, Why do I care about your car?

Because I'm going to sue the pants off anyone related to you until it's fixed. That's why.

That porn is illegal until you're 18 (or 21 in the states, I think...)

It would make more sense if the age of consent for sex was the same. But as it stands, when you're 17 you're allowed to DO anything you see in porn, but not allowed to watch other people doing it. Shit makes no sense.

TestECull:

Kwaren:

TestECull:
Fuel economy requirements, mandatory electronic AIDS fitted to cars, the Patriot act and anything like it, and the horribly broken American copyright laws.

Then you better be able to pay for my radiator when your lifeless corpse takes it out. Seat belt laws aren't for your safety, they're so that when you rear-end someone you don't cause an even bigger crash thunking into oncoming traffic.

If I'm dead, Why do I care about your car?

Because I'm going to sue the pants off anyone related to you until it's fixed. That's why.

Still not my problem if I'm dead. Also it would have been my fault not theirs so you have no case.

So many.

But specifically: the entire second amendment, and the gay marriage ban.

Kwaren:

TestECull:

Kwaren:
If I'm dead, Why do I care about your car?

Because I'm going to sue the pants off anyone related to you until it's fixed. That's why.

Still not my problem if I'm dead. Also it would have been my fault not theirs so you have no case.

And here is why we have Seat Belt laws.

The only Law I hate at the moment is the stupid no R18 in video games in Australia.

Any law prohibiting same-sex marriage. Any law prohibiting blasphemy [this happened in Ireland recently, by the way. And the illegal status of marijuana and non-addictive hallucinogens.

I can't say I agree with the law banning all use of Lysergic Acid Diethylamide.

Also, Software Patents are pointless, and are only being abused.

Man, this could be a looong list....

Prohibiting gay marriage...really? It affects no one other than the people getting married. Banning it wont stop gay relationships right? So what's the point of declaring that 2 people who love each other can't get the same benefits and protections as my wife and I can? Celebrities do FAR more damage to the 'value' of marriage than any number of homosexual unions (remember, the divorce rate is 50%...so for Liz Taylor alone there are 7 perfectly stable marriages :p )

Prohibiting prostitution...I don't want street walkers everywhere by any means, but zone it, let the workers involved be licensed contractors (eliminating pimps) and require frequent medical check ups to retain their license, let them pay taxes, advertise, and be a respectable business person like everyone else. I can go out right now and buy a gun, bullets, cigarettes, booze, poisons of all types but somehow buying an orgasm is crossing the line? It wouldn't be the worlds oldest profession if there wasn't pretty strong demand.

Legalizing drugs...ONLY and I repeat ONLY in the privacy of one's own home, but regulate it's content, regulate where it can be sold, tax it, just like alcohol, I'd go as far as imposing MUCH steeper fines for DUI and being under the influence in public but what you do in the privacy of your own home is not my concern...

So far these will help eliminate pimps and the local drug dealers, much less reaons for gang related violence...and thanks to the taxes, regulations and licensing we've helped stimulate the economy :) Will people screw up their lives because of this? Probably not any more then they have now...

In Canada in most towns it is illegal to bury a pet on your own land.

WTF??? I will do it ANYWAYS!!!

Iron Lightning:
Drug laws, there's no good reason to prohibit victimless actions that do not necessarily affect anyone other than the user.

I'm thinking second hand crack pipe is and issue. Or are you talking Mary Jane? Cause I can't wait untill someone gets away with a heinous crime because someone smoked to close to a crazy with a good lawyer.

I think it is stupid and very outdated that you cannot buy alcohol in the state of Indiana on Sundays. It makes no sense in this day and age.

Mandatory army-shit. And in Norway, only men have to go do that. What the fuck? People keep rambling on about equalism, yet they pass that on?

Oh, and the no same-sex marriage law. But that doesn't (directly) apply here.

Stupid laws preventing the shops from being open on sundays.

Alimony, it is a very outdated concept from a time where women did not work, and completely relied on the man to support then, so when they got divorced she had no means of supporting herself without help. Now it is a choice not to work, if someone doesn't want to work they don't have to but no one should be forced to support them for that choice.

Basically any law that tells me not to do something, even though i'm not harming anyone by doing it.

Just a few examples:

Anti drug laws (it's my body, if i want to fuck it up just for kicks, it is my right to do so)

anti prostitution laws (again, my body i'll decide whether or not to sell it)

The age restriction on a variety of media (it's impossible to judge whether or not someone is mature enough to handle something by a thing as arbitrary as age)

And just to throw it out there, age of consent laws (up to a certain extend naturally but anyone who thinks that a fourteen year old can't decide whether or not (s)he wants to have sex with someone , must have forgotten what it's like to be fourteen....

Luckily I live in the Netherlands and the government is kinda cool with everything described despite it being illegal.

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