I've noticed as of late, that there seems to be a lot of hate in the comments and in the forums, for Moviebob. I was just wondering where all of it comes from. From what I've seen a lot of it just seems to be because he disagreed with someone. Is there a legitimate reason for all the hate, or is it mostly just unfounded butthurt.

I will say that I am a fan of Moviebob. That being said I do not think that everyone needs to like him, that does not change my enjoyment of his videos at all. I have always just been interested in why people like or dislike things. So please do not misunderstand this to be some fan boy whining.

I only started watching recently, and I'm a fan. However, I guess most people's gripe is that his tastes are too well defined to be explored (you can always guess what he'll say about a film) and that he doesn't actually do enough critiquing in his critiques.

I do agree with that in certain circumstances, however there have been a few times where he has completely subverted my expectations. For example I thought he would hate a movie and he actually liked it. And as for your comment about him not doing enough critiquing, please explain. ( Sorry if that came across as rude, it definitely wasn't intended to.)

I just have a completely different taste from him. The moment he said he liked Sucker Punch, I knew we two wouldnt get along.

I dont even watch his content anymore. If im on the fence about a movie, I might watch one of his "critiques", and if he likes it, I will put off watching it.

MovieBob voices his opinions fairly loudly. Not too uncommon for Escapist video contributors, but the thing is, its never quite clear how much of this "MovieBob" persona is meant to be a joke persona, and how much is real.
Usually, these videos take one of two approaches: the content is very respectful of all sides of a matter, or they make such a farce out of their persona that even people who agree can't take them entirely seriously.

MovieBob is ambiguous, and considering that he addresses a lot of issues that nerds care about, so its not suprising that he gets under some peoples' skin.

stvncpr236:
Why all the Moviebob hate?

Because instead of developing his own style he chose to emulate YTZ's approach and failed at that.
I can't stand plastic clones and since i can enjoy the original...

That's my 5 cents.

I don't hate Moviebob, but his constant White Knighting is quite annoying. It's one thing to say you are against the mistreatment of women, it's another to try and champion that cause. It goes from sympathy to down right pity at times and honestly for a group to move forward, pity is the WORSE thing you can give someone. Yes, it is crappy that women get a short end of the stick, but men do too.

The Ms. Marvel episode annoyed the crap out of me (I am a Ms. Marvel fan) due to the "SHE WAS RAPED!" message in it and that a group of people who didn't have any cause to worry past what someone told them how they felt, are terrible people for not stopping it from happening. For example; if you ask a friend who wants to have sex with someone--even despite you knowing or maybe suspecting that person is a sleeze bag, there isn't anything you can do once that friend says they want to go on with it. And the Avengers had no reason to suspect anything was wrong.

I was really annoyed when he started talking about how someone with a darker skin tone SHOULD be offended about something and it's not okay for someone to voice "Yeah...I have a black friend and he's not upset with this at all." I fail to see how something portrayed in a video game (Resident Evil 5) is racist when in reality, there were african men in grass dresses holding spears. In fact, there are still some today! I would point out the locations on the map if you would like.

If I was offended by anything in Resident Evil 5, it was the incorrect length and anatomy of Crocodiles in that game and the lack of appropriate spike length on their body. So...yeah. His white knighting and pity is quite annoying and borderline insulting.

Oh. And his lack of knowledge in anything relating to science but his strong/flat out stupid opinions about it or scientific protocol. For example, the giant rabbit episode. He gets pissed because a little girl releases a rabbit and causes the entire situation and she doesn't get punished. Never mind the fact that that is understandable actions of a 5-9 year old... but if a specimen has been compromised or anything causes an experiment to go wrong, it's the head of the department's fault and the parents fault for bringing them into that lab to begin with because. that's. ILLEGAL! It's the first thing you learn as a scientist, to NOT bring people to your lab or expose them directly to you work.

You can get your lab rights revoked and sued for a good 50,000 grand or 3 years in prison. He should not speak about something he knows nothing about.

I use to watch his videos, then there was his little "Comment" about the Expendables and the people that like it, was it not something along the line of "Its stupid and everyon that likes it is stupid"?

Then, after everything and people where mad, he more or less told everyone to fuck off, he said it and we have to deal with it.

Its that smugness that pisses me off.

Overall, I like Moviebob. While our tastes may differ in some areas I think he's an intellegent guy who doesn't, not deliberately at least, go out of his was to step on peoples toes. However, I can see where the hate comes from.

Despite being quite vocally pro positive social interaction, he's very, very judgmental. He constantly perpetuates the idea of this 'dude bro' stereotype, seemingly thinking that everyone who likes sports and may have some features defining them as a 'jock' is incapable of being a nice person with independent thought. When you look at it, isn't that just as stupid (not to mention bitter) as claiming that all nerds are shut-ins with no social skills. As a nerd I can confirm that some of the nicest and most inclusive people I know are 'jocks'. Maybe me and Bob just have different life experiences, but I'd expect someone who claims to be so worldly and mature to not make those kind of assumptions about people.

Take his first ever episode of The Big Picture for example, where he certainly implied (if not outright saying it) that everyone who likes Halo is subconsciously a white supremacist. I mean really Bob, really? As someone who does like Halo, that's more than just stupid, that's offensive!

Some people react to those who diss things they like or, worse, like the things that they hate. You can see that in basically every forum for any number of things. In this case, it just so happens to be directed by some to MovieBob for his taste in movies or games.

Look, there are going to be voices of dissent anywhere from important topics like politics to less important topics like gaming. Democracy is, after all, based on the notion that every adult gets a voice, and it's no accident that democracies almost immediately have lines drawn on certain issues. So it is with the Internet. For some reason, there are particular people who decide that it's not enough to say "This is my favourite X", but have to declare "This is the best X." Gods help you if you're on the wrong side of the equation.

Steven Cper (I bought a vowel), it's best to just accept these people's opinions and try to grow a thick skin about it. Hell, you might even find yourself swayed more by the dissent than you expected. MovieBob is only human, after all, and his opinion is not fact. But unless you're Bob incognito, you shouldn't even be that upset about it really. You shouldn't be so heavily persuaded by the emotions of others.

While I may not agree with everything he says, in general, blunderboy loves him some moviebob.
But I don't think that people have to agree on everything to get along.

Why all the hate? Because he's an internet critic commenting on niche geek minutia. I love his stuff (especially GameOverthinker) but he can get annoying with the flat "I'm right and if you don't agree you're dumb" attitude.

Johnmw:
Why all the hate? Because he's an internet critic commenting on niche geek minutia. I love his stuff (especially GameOverthinker) but he can get annoying with the flat "I'm right and if you don't agree you're dumb" attitude.

Yeah, it's never a good thing when someone shoves their opinion down your throat. But as with what I said earlier about getting a thick skin, if your main complaint with someone is that they're opinionated and act as though they're correct, congratulations: you've now realised that this is how life works. EVERYONE is the protagonist in their own little world and unfortunately this seeps into how someone presents their opinion - for some, it's controlled modesty, but for others, it's outright elitism.

There is of course a difference between disagreement and hate, and if there's an error in one direction on the Internet, it tends to err towards hate. It'd be nice if people could politely disagree without resorting to extremes, but that's an ideal world.

Remnant:

Johnmw:
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Yeah, it's never a good thing when someone shoves their opinion down your throat. But as with what I said earlier about getting a thick skin, if your main complaint with someone is that they're opinionated and act as though they're correct, congratulations: you've now realised that this is how life works. EVERYONE is the protagonist in their own little world and unfortunately this seeps into how someone presents their opinion - for some, it's controlled modesty, but for others, it's outright elitism.

There is of course a difference between disagreement and hate, and if there's an error in one direction on the Internet, it tends to err towards hate. It'd be nice if people could politely disagree without resorting to extremes, but that's an ideal world.

*Sigh* that would be nice... we can but dream.
That said I really doubt any of the 'Haters' actually 'hate'. The word hate seems to have radically different meaning on the web and IRL. It is just an easy word to convey a strong opinion on a subject where you have no physical voice.

I don't hate him...I still watch him occasionally. I just find his movie tastes completely different to mine. And when a reviewer doesn't agree with me of course it's going to be a clash of interests.

He seems ok in knowledge aspects though.

my only problem with him is his "infactuation" with Nintendo...Id go almost as far as to call him a fanboy, I dont like nintendo but GOD how he goes on about it

also he has a terrible vendetta againt a steryotype, on one of his game over thinker videos I felt like he was essentially saying "if you dont LOVE nintedo and kirbys epic yarn then your a douche-bag jock gamer who likes COD and thinks he's a gangta"

No Bob...I like good games, and I dont like the wii/nintendo

also his defence of Metroid other M...no bob

BUT that said he can amek some good points and I dont have a huge problem with him...

He acts too much like an uncompromising fanboy, and then tries to back up his behaviour with rather crummy arguments.

This is not "hating", but simply calling him on his shit.

I like him, and tend to watch all his vids. I do think he's too much of a "woman's champion" however. For example his commentary on the IVY boob age was a little ridiculous, and I find it funny how he thinks it's demeaning for woman to be reduced to one body part on the poster but doesn't mention the same thing happening for guys in pornography.

I'm okay with him. I don't like how he acts like he knows everything, and makes predictions about things that'll never happen, but still acts like it's the most obvious thing in the world.

thedo12:
I like him, and tend to watch all his vids. I do think he's too much of a "woman's champion" however. For example his commentary on the IVY boob age was a little ridiculous, and I find it funny how he thinks it's demeaning for woman to be reduced to one body part on the poster but doesn't mention the same thing happening for guys in pornography.

herp derp. Not even related. Nice try.

stvncpr236:
I've noticed as of late, that there seems to be a lot of hate in the comments and in the forums, for Moviebob. I was just wondering where all of it comes from. From what I've seen a lot of it just seems to be because he disagreed with someone. Is there a legitimate reason for all the hate, or is it mostly just unfounded butthurt.

I will say that I am a fan of Moviebob. That being said I do not think that everyone needs to like him, that does not change my enjoyment of his videos at all. I have always just been interested in why people like or dislike things. So please do not misunderstand this to be some fan boy whining.

I'll simply put this to you: "There are often extreme reactions where there is truth."

(I'm not one of the haters, I like Bob).

Griffolion:

I'll simply put this to you: "There are often extreme reactions where there is truth."

(I'm not one of the haters, I like Bob).

Same thing can be said about the Nazis (yes i went there)

Chertan:

Griffolion:

I'll simply put this to you: "There are often extreme reactions where there is truth."

(I'm not one of the haters, I like Bob).

Same thing can be said about the Nazis (yes i went there)

BOOM, it's only 1 in the afternoon and I've just been Godwinned!

From what I can tell, it apparently comes down to the fact that he has opinions. Yeah, I know. A guy on the internet is making videos and has opinions. Scandalous.

Personally, I like him. I listen to his movie reviews before I would listen to any other "professional critic" entirely because he is a geek. He does have some level of professionalism about his reviews, but I don't feel like he will shit on a movie that is supposed to be fun, just because it's not Oscar bait. And he will completely destroy a transparent attempt to make a movie that will win an Oscar. What more could you ask for?

That's my opinion, anyway. If you do or don't like him, that's yours. If you do or don't like him, don't act like everyone that disagrees with you is stupid. Moviebob is a pretty popular contributor here. No matter what you think, he's not going anywhere anytime soon.

I generally don't like the guy because he seems to be far too proud of what he thinks is his inflammatory nature, but I haven't seen him take a lot of controversial stances on anything.

He has a few opinions I disagree with, but they've never annoyed me other than his halo hate. It was how he presented his argument that actually bugged me though, not so much his dislike of Halo.

NinjaDeathSlap:
Overall, I like Moviebob. While our tastes may differ in some areas I think he's an intellegent guy who doesn't, not deliberately at least, go out of his was to step on peoples toes. However, I can see where the hate comes from.

Despite being quite vocally pro positive social interaction, he's very, very judgmental. He constantly perpetuates the idea of this 'dude bro' stereotype, seemingly thinking that everyone who likes sports and may have some features defining them as a 'jock' is incapable of being a nice person with independent thought. When you look at it, isn't that just as stupid (not to mention bitter) as claiming that all nerds are shut-ins with no social skills. As a nerd I can confirm that some of the nicest and most inclusive people I know are 'jocks'. Maybe me and Bob just have different life experiences, but I'd expect someone who claims to be so worldly and mature to not make those kind of assumptions about people.

Take his first ever episode of The Big Picture for example, where he certainly implied (if not outright saying it) that everyone who likes Halo is subconsciously a white supremacist. I mean really Bob, really? As someone who does like Halo, that's more than just stupid, that's offensive!

I have to agree with you there. Especially on the Halo thing, which is particularly annoying to me since as far as I can tell he's never played any halo games,..... which is all the more perplexing when you consider that he'd read twilight all the way through before he went on to criticize that. = S

He said Sucker Punch and The Immortals were good movies.

In more depth I think he's intelligent and at least honest in his criticism, but he tends to do a lot of soapboxing about stuff I don't really care about to the point I think it interferes with the content of the reviews. Most of the reason I don't watch his stuff is down to a difference in taste, meaning I can't really use his reviews to gauge how much I'll enjoy something. I'll agree sometimes, like with Scott Pilgrim or The Expendables (ironic that he disliked that but liked Sucker Punch which was much worse) but not enough that I really feel the need to follow his work.

The only other thing is that, and I don't know if its intentional or not, he seems to have an "if you don't agree you must be stupid" kind of attitude, which I don't particularly enjoy listening to.

I quite enjoy his work, but that's not to say I don't disagree with him, I do. More often than not I'll side with his opinion. He's rather forward with his views, and is rather loyal to the things he loves, so I assume that can occasionally stir up some conflict with the community.

Vault101:
my only problem with him is his "infactuation" with Nintendo...Id go almost as far as to call him a fanboy, I dont like nintendo but GOD how he goes on about it

also he has a terrible vendetta againt a steryotype, on one of his game over thinker videos I felt like he was essentially saying "if you dont LOVE nintedo and kirbys epic yarn then your a douche-bag jock gamer who likes COD and thinks he's a gangta"

No Bob...I like good games, and I dont like the wii/nintendo

also his defence of Metroid other M...no bob

BUT that said he can amek some good points and I dont have a huge problem with him...

... sure you're not confusing him with Jim Sterling? I know Bob (like everyone that grew up in the 80's) is a Nintendo fanboy, but I can't recall him making a huge deal about Epic Yarn. I think I remember him mentioning his excitement for Return to Dreamland though.

For the record, I love Nintendo, but I didn't like Epic Yarn... though Return to Dreamland was the fucking tits! Probably the best Kirby game since the NES entry.

Nobody likes being preached to is pretty much the core of the hate he is getting.

Almost every argument Bob makes is an Ad hominem, shame and blame attack, as if his arguments can't hold their own. I still cant watch "Feeding Edge" because of all the straw men filler in that show.