Dad uses Facebook to teach daughter a lesson.

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boyvirgo666:
So this was posted by a drunk college student with no understanding of fine beards right?

Yeah well tell it to the beard 'cause it still thinks it's 1882.

axlryder:
no, you seem to be confused about the content of the video. It featured a fairly calm man with well kept facial hair making a reasonable statement and firing off a gun to carry out his previous warnings.

You should learn to differentiate better.

Fairly calm? Listen to how he talks. The way he slurs his speech, he's either drunk or on the verge of a spittle-flecked rage or both. You could doctor in a pair of masked men with AK-47's standing over the laptop and I bet 60% of us wouldn't even notice.

Stalydan:
The worst thing about this is the video is sadistic to the core. He's hurt that she posts something on Facebook about him and his wife but here's the thing. Nobody pays attention to Facebook. It might be the talk for about a week tops but then it's gone. Dusted over, never to be heard from again. Sure, I'd be angry if somebody posted hurtful stuff about me on the internet but it's not as widespread as people think. Who cares about one 15 year old girl annoyed with her chores? It's so pointless. But rather than talking to her about it, he prints off her post, reads it aloud in a video and shoots her laptop about ten times and expects money for damages. He then says he's going to post it to her wall where she won't be able to see it but all her friends will. So not only does he know it's going to hurt her when she finds out what he's done to her stuff but it'll also embarrass her at her school when other people find out. It's wrong on some many levels, I'd be tempted to call it abuse if went one or two steps further.

tl;dr This girl will now grow up to resent her father because he blew his fuse at something so minor rather than talking it out.

You-You're joking, right? Employers look at Facebooks when deciding whether or not to hire employees. People have lost job opportunities because they posted something on Facebook several years beforehand. Also, he is the CEO of a company. No CEO wants their daughter to post how "awful" they are. It gets around, and they lose credibility. Even if it's untrue. I challenge you to give me one case where a CEO didn't get at least a slight rep damage from troubles on the home front.

SnakeoilSage:

boyvirgo666:
So this was posted by a drunk college student with no understanding of fine beards right?

Yeah well tell it to the beard 'cause it still thinks it's 1882.

axlryder:
no, you seem to be confused about the content of the video. It featured a fairly calm man with well kept facial hair making a reasonable statement and firing off a gun to carry out his previous warnings.

You should learn to differentiate better.

Fairly calm? Listen to how he talks. The way he slurs his speech, he's either drunk or on the verge of a spittle-flecked rage or both. You could doctor in a pair of masked men with AK-47's standing over the laptop and I bet 60% of us wouldn't even notice.

You mean his stutter? Yeah, that's called a stutter. He has one. If you've somehow never talked to a person with a stutter in your entire life, just go to his other vids, he has one in those too. Please don't go attempting to admit a person's speech impediment as evidence of some fabricated rage.
I'm sorry, but generally one who employs conjecture and weak correlations as methods of defamation is doing little more than undermining their own credibility.

Gun ownership is a right. It is also a responsibility. Failure to properly execute one's basic responsibilities related to gun ownership means run ins with the law. Taking guns away from people with a demonstrated lack of responsibility is not gun grabbing.

Computer ownership is not a right. Daddy can do whatever he wants to baby's computer, provided it does not violate any laws. There are many laws against unlawful discharge of firearms, which he may or may not be in violation of.

Good for him. While the use of fire arms was over the top. She deserved it.
I think dropping it off a building would have been more satisfying.

Wow, what a cluster of opinions we have here.

I was going to rant on the irrationality of the father, but then I watched the video. He was pretty calm about this whole thing. Not parent of the year since this will no doubtedly inflate the situation, but understandable.

I see this going one of two ways, the most likely being that she throws a fit and runs away where she ether learns her lesson, ends up on the pole, get's murdered, or is raised by a pack of coyotes in the desert.

Option two is she vents to her friends and begrudgingly gets a job at a mall or outlet store... come to think of it, option two sounds more likely.

Why does anyone care at all? When I saw it, I was just like 'hah what a bunch of rubes'

Oh that wacky dad taking his daughters laptop and shooting it with something not even legal in some places. And yeah she dishonored the family and stuff. An IT guy in buttfuck nowhere Tennessee talking about honor. Whatever bro.

AdamRBi:
Wow, what a cluster of opinions we have here.

I was going to rant on the irrationality of the father, but then I watched the video. He was pretty calm about this whole thing. Not parent of the year since this will no doubtedly inflate the situation, but understandable.

I see this going one of two ways, the most likely being that she throws a fit and runs away where she ether learns her lesson, ends up on the pole, get's murdered, or is raised by a pack of coyotes in the desert.

Option two is she vents to her friends and begrudgingly gets a job at a mall or outlet store... come to think of it, option two sounds more likely.

Unfortunately, option 2 is what she tried; this whole mess started because she tried to vent to her friends.

meepop:

Stalydan:
The worst thing about this is the video is sadistic to the core. He's hurt that she posts something on Facebook about him and his wife but here's the thing. Nobody pays attention to Facebook. It might be the talk for about a week tops but then it's gone. Dusted over, never to be heard from again. Sure, I'd be angry if somebody posted hurtful stuff about me on the internet but it's not as widespread as people think. Who cares about one 15 year old girl annoyed with her chores? It's so pointless. But rather than talking to her about it, he prints off her post, reads it aloud in a video and shoots her laptop about ten times and expects money for damages. He then says he's going to post it to her wall where she won't be able to see it but all her friends will. So not only does he know it's going to hurt her when she finds out what he's done to her stuff but it'll also embarrass her at her school when other people find out. It's wrong on some many levels, I'd be tempted to call it abuse if went one or two steps further.

tl;dr This girl will now grow up to resent her father because he blew his fuse at something so minor rather than talking it out.

You-You're joking, right? Employers look at Facebooks when deciding whether or not to hire employees. People have lost job opportunities because they posted something on Facebook several years beforehand. Also, he is the CEO of a company. No CEO wants their daughter to post how "awful" they are. It gets around, and they lose credibility. Even if it's untrue. I challenge you to give me one case where a CEO didn't get at least a slight rep damage from troubles on the home front.

And I challenge you to find one teenager who didn't resent their parents for making them do the chores at some point in their adolescence. I seriously doubt anyone's going to get fired because they made their daughter do some chores and she had a rant about it on Facebook. On the other hand, some employers might start questioning the guys sanity a little with such a ridiculous reaction to such a tiny insignificant issue. What would you be worried about if you were his employer, a father making sure his daughter does her chores, or a father whose favoured method of punishment involves a youtube video and a hand gun.

Seriously, no way does a few facebook rants justify public humiliation, this girl won't learn anything from all of this other than to keep her resentment more secret. It's not like her resentment is suddenly going to change after such a harsh reaction to an insignificant rant. This sort of reaction is only going to push her further away.

axlryder:
You mean his stutter? Yeah, that's called a stutter. He has one. If you've somehow never talked to a person with a stutter in your entire life, just go to his other vids, he has one in those too. Please don't go attempting to admit a person's speech impediment as evidence of some fabricated rage.
I'm sorry, but generally one who employs conjecture and weak correlations as methods of defamation is doing little more than undermining their own credibility.

I recognize a speech impediment; I know people who stutter. I know people who stutter when they're nervous about being in front of audiences and not wanting to screw up, and I know the stutter of people who just stutter regardless of their emotional mindset.

This man has the nervous tic of someone trying to spew bullshit without losing his cool; it stems from him being furious and trying desperately to articulate it in a way that doesn't expose him for the temper-tantrum-throwing child that he's being, the same kind of tic any politician or businessman would get if they got cornered in a press conference and had to maintain a facade to keep from losing face. The discomfort stems from knowing somewhere deep down that he's a mean-spirited bully who got stood up to, and had to draw a firearm because that's where he gets his confidence and power from. If this is how he deals with his anger issues then its no wonder his family is so screwed up. Whether his anger is justified for letting his daughter become self-entitled brat it irrelevant.

I'll be brief as I've said this elsewere. The dad is the adult here and should know better. Responding to someone said something bad about you you don't like with breaking other peoples stuff (even if you pay for something once you give it away its not yours anymore) is immoral and unacceptable in most parts of civilized society.

Actually talking to his daughter about her feelings on the matter he doesn't address half the things she says (gardening, coffee for example) she has to do and generally seems under apreciated would have gone a lot farther. By then posting this to facebook its little more then an attempt to bully and humiliate his daughter.

e is no better in my eyes from the scummy trolls on the internet or the thug on the playground beating you up cause you didn't respect them. Respect is something you earn by being deserving of it and I see nothing in here that this man is deserving of any respect for his piss poor reaction.

To conclude I hope his daughter grows up to be a better person then this sad excuse for a person.

Cyfu:

Mortai Gravesend:

Cyfu:

and this was not the first time she did this. and when she was busted last time the dad said that if she ever did something like this again it would be much worse than being grounded.
she made her choice and she paid the price.

Not the first time she did something so horrible as to rant at some friends about her parents? Good Lord, what is the world coming to when kids rant to their friends? Doesn't make much sense to just say "She made her choice and she paid the price". Does it make much sense to punish her for something so trivial anyway? I'd say that it doesn't. People vent to their friends about things that are bothering them, that isn't something worthy of punishment.

this, in my opinion, is brilliant. if she doesn't get the picture now she has to be REALLY stupid.

That if she shows any dissent her dad will break stuff? Because that's what this says. It doesn't say "Oh you were wrong, you should be more grateful", it says "Oh if you don't act grateful I'll break your shit"

Trivial to say horrible things about their parent?

Yes, it is trivial. It's a bunch of petty words that they were never meant to see, big fucking deal.

i don't know what home you come from, but if i did what she did i would have grounded for months.

Well great, that means your parents overreact to silly things.

you're supposed to respect your parents.

Maybe that got beaten into you, but there's nothing in life that really requires it. And if someone fails to it's not a big deal.

what she did is disrespectful and shows that she is a spoiled brat who thinks doing some chores is slavery.

Oh no, call the thought police! Doesn't matter if it was disrespectful really as it was never meant to go to them, doesn't matter if she's a spoiled brat. She didn't do anything really wrong.

and it's not like "if you don't act grateful i'll brake your stuff". cause the first time she did this she was grounded for a couple of months. that obviously didn't work so the father tried something different, and hopefully this will work.

Okay, sorry "If you don't act grateful twice I'll break your shit". That better for you? And trying something different is irrelevant. It wasn't worth punishing in the first place.

we don't need more spoiled brats in the world.

What we don't need is people who overreact to petty words. Oh and thought police.

Mortai Gravesend:

Cyfu:

Mortai Gravesend:

Not the first time she did something so horrible as to rant at some friends about her parents? Good Lord, what is the world coming to when kids rant to their friends? Doesn't make much sense to just say "She made her choice and she paid the price". Does it make much sense to punish her for something so trivial anyway? I'd say that it doesn't. People vent to their friends about things that are bothering them, that isn't something worthy of punishment.

That if she shows any dissent her dad will break stuff? Because that's what this says. It doesn't say "Oh you were wrong, you should be more grateful", it says "Oh if you don't act grateful I'll break your shit"

Trivial to say horrible things about their parent?

Yes, it is trivial. It's a bunch of petty words that they were never meant to see, big fucking deal.

i don't know what home you come from, but if i did what she did i would have grounded for months.

Well great, that means your parents overreact to silly things.

you're supposed to respect your parents.

Maybe that got beaten into you, but there's nothing in life that really requires it. And if someone fails to it's not a big deal.

what she did is disrespectful and shows that she is a spoiled brat who thinks doing some chores is slavery.

Oh no, call the thought police! Doesn't matter if it was disrespectful really as it was never meant to go to them, doesn't matter if she's a spoiled brat. She didn't do anything really wrong.

and it's not like "if you don't act grateful i'll brake your stuff". cause the first time she did this she was grounded for a couple of months. that obviously didn't work so the father tried something different, and hopefully this will work.

Okay, sorry "If you don't act grateful twice I'll break your shit". That better for you? And trying something different is irrelevant. It wasn't worth punishing in the first place.

we don't need more spoiled brats in the world.

What we don't need is people who overreact to petty words. Oh and thought police.

i like how in your answer you are attacking me and my parents instead of being relevant.
anyways im not going to reply if you answer to this.

Cyfu:

Mortai Gravesend:

Cyfu:

Trivial to say horrible things about their parent?

Yes, it is trivial. It's a bunch of petty words that they were never meant to see, big fucking deal.

i don't know what home you come from, but if i did what she did i would have grounded for months.

Well great, that means your parents overreact to silly things.

you're supposed to respect your parents.

Maybe that got beaten into you, but there's nothing in life that really requires it. And if someone fails to it's not a big deal.

what she did is disrespectful and shows that she is a spoiled brat who thinks doing some chores is slavery.

Oh no, call the thought police! Doesn't matter if it was disrespectful really as it was never meant to go to them, doesn't matter if she's a spoiled brat. She didn't do anything really wrong.

and it's not like "if you don't act grateful i'll brake your stuff". cause the first time she did this she was grounded for a couple of months. that obviously didn't work so the father tried something different, and hopefully this will work.

Okay, sorry "If you don't act grateful twice I'll break your shit". That better for you? And trying something different is irrelevant. It wasn't worth punishing in the first place.

we don't need more spoiled brats in the world.

What we don't need is people who overreact to petty words. Oh and thought police.

i like how in your answer you are attacking me and my parents instead of being relevant.
anyways im not going to reply if you answer to this.

I like how you are incapable of seeing what is actually said. I pointed out it's petty words. I pointed out how stupid it is to care about what she thinks. And don't whine about me mentioning your parents, you brought them up as an example. And so I pointed out that in said example they would be overreacting to silly things. Did you bring it up so when I dismissed it you could just cry about how I mentioned your parents?

Anyway, I see that you're just looking for an excuse to refuse to address things. Little point in keeping someone like you in a conversation.

Meh, he could've used a hammer to destory it. So what? It'd be also a lethal weapon if you want to. Or seeing he's living in a rural area im sure he has a pickaxe or an axe somewhere in his shed.

And destroying the laptop definitly - and then showing it to the brat - has more "oomph" than just giving it away. Waste? Sure.

It's dandy. Brats nowadays are way to spoiled.

meepop:

Stalydan:
The worst thing about this is the video is sadistic to the core. He's hurt that she posts something on Facebook about him and his wife but here's the thing. Nobody pays attention to Facebook. It might be the talk for about a week tops but then it's gone. Dusted over, never to be heard from again. Sure, I'd be angry if somebody posted hurtful stuff about me on the internet but it's not as widespread as people think. Who cares about one 15 year old girl annoyed with her chores? It's so pointless. But rather than talking to her about it, he prints off her post, reads it aloud in a video and shoots her laptop about ten times and expects money for damages. He then says he's going to post it to her wall where she won't be able to see it but all her friends will. So not only does he know it's going to hurt her when she finds out what he's done to her stuff but it'll also embarrass her at her school when other people find out. It's wrong on some many levels, I'd be tempted to call it abuse if went one or two steps further.

tl;dr This girl will now grow up to resent her father because he blew his fuse at something so minor rather than talking it out.

You-You're joking, right? Employers look at Facebooks when deciding whether or not to hire employees. People have lost job opportunities because they posted something on Facebook several years beforehand. Also, he is the CEO of a company. No CEO wants their daughter to post how "awful" they are. It gets around, and they lose credibility. Even if it's untrue. I challenge you to give me one case where a CEO didn't get at least a slight rep damage from troubles on the home front.

Wait. So are you saying that because she said something any typical teenager would about their parents, he was right to take her laptop, film himself shooting it and posting it on Youtube and her Facebook wall? Admittedly, he has said that it was originally intended for family and friends but... no. If he's saying something like her complaining about her life will spread around the web because she posted it on Facebook, then wouldn't this video be viewed by everyone ever?

I'm sorry, one "fml" status compared to one "shooting your laptop as punishment" video makes her look more like an adult than him. He seriously can't sit her down and talk to her about why she doesn't like doing her chores? Though in all fairness, if she has to clean those floors and counters everyday even though they have a cleaner, somebody needs to be fired.

That girl will learn nothing from this. She's already angry at her dad anyway but if he thinks shooting her stuff will make her go "Oh yeah, I was wrong all along. I love you Dad!"... he does not know a teenager.

Yes, there's taking a firm stance on parenting. And then there's this where there's a bomb ticking down as she builds up aggression to her father because he's not communicating with her.

Holy shit, people are still going rabid about this? Geez people, if you waste all of your misguided outrage on this, what will be left for tomorrow when someone new does something mildly entertaining that is stupid as fuck?

I thought hollow point bullets were illegal?

Stalydan:

meepop:

Stalydan:
The worst thing about this is the video is sadistic to the core. He's hurt that she posts something on Facebook about him and his wife but here's the thing. Nobody pays attention to Facebook. It might be the talk for about a week tops but then it's gone. Dusted over, never to be heard from again. Sure, I'd be angry if somebody posted hurtful stuff about me on the internet but it's not as widespread as people think. Who cares about one 15 year old girl annoyed with her chores? It's so pointless. But rather than talking to her about it, he prints off her post, reads it aloud in a video and shoots her laptop about ten times and expects money for damages. He then says he's going to post it to her wall where she won't be able to see it but all her friends will. So not only does he know it's going to hurt her when she finds out what he's done to her stuff but it'll also embarrass her at her school when other people find out. It's wrong on some many levels, I'd be tempted to call it abuse if went one or two steps further.

tl;dr This girl will now grow up to resent her father because he blew his fuse at something so minor rather than talking it out.

You-You're joking, right? Employers look at Facebooks when deciding whether or not to hire employees. People have lost job opportunities because they posted something on Facebook several years beforehand. Also, he is the CEO of a company. No CEO wants their daughter to post how "awful" they are. It gets around, and they lose credibility. Even if it's untrue. I challenge you to give me one case where a CEO didn't get at least a slight rep damage from troubles on the home front.

Wait. So are you saying that because she said something any typical teenager would about their parents, he was right to take her laptop, film himself shooting it and posting it on Youtube and her Facebook wall? Admittedly, he has said that it was originally intended for family and friends but... no. If he's saying something like her complaining about her life will spread around the web because she posted it on Facebook, then wouldn't this video be viewed by everyone ever?

I'm sorry, one "fml" status compared to one "shooting your laptop as punishment" video makes her look more like an adult than him. He seriously can't sit her down and talk to her about why she doesn't like doing her chores? Though in all fairness, if she has to clean those floors and counters everyday even though they have a cleaner, somebody needs to be fired.

That girl will learn nothing from this. She's already angry at her dad anyway but if he thinks shooting her stuff will make her go "Oh yeah, I was wrong all along. I love you Dad!"... he does not know a teenager.

Yes, there's taking a firm stance on parenting. And then there's this where there's a bomb ticking down as she builds up aggression to her father because he's not communicating with her.

You didn't pay attention did you? It wasn't the first or only incident of her being a brat. She's been punished before.

MysticToast:

Stalydan:

meepop:

You-You're joking, right? Employers look at Facebooks when deciding whether or not to hire employees. People have lost job opportunities because they posted something on Facebook several years beforehand. Also, he is the CEO of a company. No CEO wants their daughter to post how "awful" they are. It gets around, and they lose credibility. Even if it's untrue. I challenge you to give me one case where a CEO didn't get at least a slight rep damage from troubles on the home front.

Wait. So are you saying that because she said something any typical teenager would about their parents, he was right to take her laptop, film himself shooting it and posting it on Youtube and her Facebook wall? Admittedly, he has said that it was originally intended for family and friends but... no. If he's saying something like her complaining about her life will spread around the web because she posted it on Facebook, then wouldn't this video be viewed by everyone ever?

I'm sorry, one "fml" status compared to one "shooting your laptop as punishment" video makes her look more like an adult than him. He seriously can't sit her down and talk to her about why she doesn't like doing her chores? Though in all fairness, if she has to clean those floors and counters everyday even though they have a cleaner, somebody needs to be fired.

That girl will learn nothing from this. She's already angry at her dad anyway but if he thinks shooting her stuff will make her go "Oh yeah, I was wrong all along. I love you Dad!"... he does not know a teenager.

Yes, there's taking a firm stance on parenting. And then there's this where there's a bomb ticking down as she builds up aggression to her father because he's not communicating with her.

You didn't pay attention did you? It wasn't the first or only incident of her being a brat. She's been punished before.

Funny how that doesn't really address anything he said. Or do you think 2 "fml" statuses are worth shooting a laptop as punishment? Not that we even know what the first issue was.

And regardless it comes nowhere near addressing his point against its effectiveness. Or the part about how much it's spread. So at best we have one little point that it is the second incident, which is pretty irrelevant.

MysticToast:

Stalydan:

meepop:

You-You're joking, right? Employers look at Facebooks when deciding whether or not to hire employees. People have lost job opportunities because they posted something on Facebook several years beforehand. Also, he is the CEO of a company. No CEO wants their daughter to post how "awful" they are. It gets around, and they lose credibility. Even if it's untrue. I challenge you to give me one case where a CEO didn't get at least a slight rep damage from troubles on the home front.

Wait. So are you saying that because she said something any typical teenager would about their parents, he was right to take her laptop, film himself shooting it and posting it on Youtube and her Facebook wall? Admittedly, he has said that it was originally intended for family and friends but... no. If he's saying something like her complaining about her life will spread around the web because she posted it on Facebook, then wouldn't this video be viewed by everyone ever?

I'm sorry, one "fml" status compared to one "shooting your laptop as punishment" video makes her look more like an adult than him. He seriously can't sit her down and talk to her about why she doesn't like doing her chores? Though in all fairness, if she has to clean those floors and counters everyday even though they have a cleaner, somebody needs to be fired.

That girl will learn nothing from this. She's already angry at her dad anyway but if he thinks shooting her stuff will make her go "Oh yeah, I was wrong all along. I love you Dad!"... he does not know a teenager.

Yes, there's taking a firm stance on parenting. And then there's this where there's a bomb ticking down as she builds up aggression to her father because he's not communicating with her.

You didn't pay attention did you? It wasn't the first or only incident of her being a brat. She's been punished before.

Yeah, I do know that but is it a perfectly reasonable response to say "Well you didn't listen to me last time and did something every other teenager does so I'm going to act like a child and embarrass to you friends like you did to me". No, it isn't. She posted it on a site where it would be seen by her friends who would feel sorry for her and move on. He posted his thing on a site where it's been viewed 18+ million times since Thursday and also on to the place where all her friends could see it.

That's not a punishment, it's just humiliation.

Very well. Lesson to be learned kiddies: Do not mess with Daddy and complain about your life, like a spoiled child.

Mortai Gravesend:

And don't whine about me mentioning your parents, you brought them up as an example.

to clarify.
i did not mean to bring your parents up. i just said that i didn't know how it was at your home and that in MY home i couldn't do that and wouldn't do that. for all i know you have the strictest and the nicest (is that a word? english is not my native language) parents ever. im sorry if you took it the wrong way.

Strain42:

Yokai:
Really I think it would have been just as effective if he'd boxed it up on camera and mailed it somewhere far away. Shooting it was a waste of his own money, and valuable, useful electronics.

Wouldn't that be even more expensive? It does kinda cost money to mail stuff, and even with a flat rate box, one that a laptop would fit in would probably cost more than those bullets.

The message he wanted to send by shooting it was that he stands by his word, since last time she bashed him on Facebook he did tell her if she ever did that again he'd put a bullet through it.

A box would've been a hell of a lot cheaper than, say, the computer itself, and the software he apparently just bought and installed on it. I get that he was trying to be a man of his word or some such, but it's still a situation that would've benefited from a bit more common sense.

Ok, so I've kind of found here that this thread, with its 548 replies, is getting pretty ridiculous and pointless now. None of the arguments made for the father or for the girl even matter and have no basis, so lets all go together to the mystical world of logic land, and all find out why together shall we?

The video is 8 minutes long. In it all that we see or hear from this man, is that he is a father of a teenage girl, who has bitched about him behind his back on facebook, after spending money on her laptop for her. He then expresses his frustration with this, and shoots a laptop with a pistol.

Now, I think we should all know here, that relationships between parents and children on average tend to go on for a bit longer than 8 minutes. A lot of events and complications will happen throughout their lives and their relationship, they will feel differently about each other as time goes on, and certain themes will tend to emerge and dissipate as the child begins to grow up, and the parents will react to these themes and phases with the best interest of the child in mind (hopefully). This is a very complex cycle of emotions and conversations and living with each other, that in no way can any of us here comment on having seen the father shoot her laptop on a particular day (even if you do find it immature, angry or funny).

And that's the kicker. Any argument or statement for or against either party on this thread is based on extrapolation, do you see? Everybody watching that video is looking into an 8 minute window of this family's life and circumstances, some people here are assuming, based on this brief 'encounter' with the father here, that he is a gun toting redneck with no parental skills at all, and that he probably has a history of erratic behavior or violence, and that the events preceding this video consisted of bad parenting, him neglecting his daughter and making her work for nothing, and that the events proceeding the video will consist of harsh punishment, more neglecting his daughter and making her life miserable. Others are assuming that the girl is an ungrateful, spoiled brat who had it coming to her, and that the events preceding this video consisted of her constantly moaning at her father, talking about him behind his back and being lazy and not doing her chores, and that the events proceeding the video consisted of her being righteously punished, and her father having her find the values of honest work and independence.

We do not, nor will we ever know, that any of these things are true. Everybody here is guessing from this tiny, insignificant gesture, the true nature of this family's life. Some may be doing it because they have experienced similar spats with their parents, and empathize with the girl, some may be doing it because they dislike people showing disrespect. Either way, you see what you want to see with this video, you are making up your own timeline of this family's history and future either side of this 8 minute video. Some people are trying to psychologically analyse this guy from the way he behaves in front of a camera for a few minutes, some are trying to scrutinize the facebook posts, and I honestly have no clue why, this is none of your business, I'm sure you wouldn't like the rest of the world judging your family issues. These are all pointless gestures anyway, nobody wins from this thread, there's nothing to be debated because we know nothing else of this family, we won't know who 'wins' in the end, but we will know that a lot of people will lose their time when they could at least be discussing something more worthwhile and interesting on this forums, if not just taking a break from them all together (seriously, the level of 'heated discussion' here is getting ridiculous for such a trivial topic, sometimes some people need to take a look at what they're getting so wound up about).

Now I think I'm being too optimistic of the escapist community here when I say this, but it's worth a try:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cKoYebgrcw

I already made a video about this, but what frustrates me more is western society's insistence that this was alright. So this isn't one whack job's problem, this is a cultural problem.

This is why private individuals should not be trusted with anything. Not land, and certainly not people. If all authority is to be questioned, then that goes for family most certainly. Who tends to use emotional abuse over physical. And if he's crazy enough to make a spectacle of his daughter, destroy her laptop, and demand she pay her back for it, all because she called him a meanie online, he's liable to use that gun on her. That girl is in danger living under that lunatic, but nobody wants to see that, because western society is full of fascist sickos who love the idea of a bolstered authoritarian figure, pushing them around like this is some God damn pornography.

People that support this father should be castrated. Not sterilized, castrated. It isn't so much I worry about them having kids, as it is they should never have the option nor the enjoyment of the byproduct of reproduction. This is why I'm against abortion. People can't be trusted to do anything on their own... there needs to be checks and balances. Laws, regulations, and bureaucracy, to filter man's wickedness.

This dumb hillbilly is everything that is wrong with the world, and has always been wrong with it.

Jim Profit:
snip

Yep, I guess I was being too optimistic.

Lets try again shall we?

/thread

Jim Profit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cKoYebgrcw

I already made a video about this, but what frustrates me more is western society's insistence that this was alright. So this isn't one whack job's problem, this is a cultural problem.

This is why private individuals should not be trusted with anything. Not land, and certainly not people. If all authority is to be questioned, then that goes for family most certainly. Who tends to use emotional abuse over physical. And if he's crazy enough to make a spectacle of his daughter, destroy her laptop, and demand she pay her back for it, all because she called him a meanie online, he's liable to use that gun on her. That girl is in danger living under that lunatic, but nobody wants to see that, because western society is full of fascist sickos who love the idea of a bolstered authoritarian figure, pushing them around like this is some God damn pornography.

People that support this father should be castrated. Not sterilized, castrated. It isn't so much I worry about them having kids, as it is they should never have the option nor the enjoyment of the byproduct of reproduction. This is why I'm against abortion. People can't be trusted to do anything on their own... there needs to be checks and balances. Laws, regulations, and bureaucracy, to filter man's wickedness.

This dumb hillbilly is everything that is wrong with the world, and has always been wrong with it.

I am almost sure that laptop was bough with his money, which makes him free to do what he pleases with it. Words don't hurt people? im fairly certain they do if i tell something bad about you that might not be true but people acknowledge it as the truth you may very well have problems in the short term like not getting accepted for a job or costumers because they now dont think you are a person they would like to have bussiness with you, in the worst case possible you could even have the cops after you!

She said she was a slave for doing some work arround the house? I make my own bed, i feed the dog and take him for a walk once in a while, get rid of the garbage and i don't complain because i know im already getting paid either with food on the table, tv or internet. She was in my opinion asking for too much when she already has more than enough, what her father did might not have been the nicest thing in the world but he passed a few clear messages, that she had gone too far insulting her own parents and did not respect what she had.

Sometimes its good to be hard on your children, when i though of getting a new pc my dad said he would not give me the money, it was too expensive he said, but if i paid with my own money, i got 600 euros by the summer and i had the parts i wanted, yet i was wishing i would have a better case to install my parts in because i still had one of those old white and ugly monstrosities, when i said that he congratulated me for working for my own goals and bought me the case i wanted as a reward.

HavoK 09:

Jim Profit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cKoYebgrcw

I already made a video about this, but what frustrates me more is western society's insistence that this was alright. So this isn't one whack job's problem, this is a cultural problem.

This is why private individuals should not be trusted with anything. Not land, and certainly not people. If all authority is to be questioned, then that goes for family most certainly. Who tends to use emotional abuse over physical. And if he's crazy enough to make a spectacle of his daughter, destroy her laptop, and demand she pay her back for it, all because she called him a meanie online, he's liable to use that gun on her. That girl is in danger living under that lunatic, but nobody wants to see that, because western society is full of fascist sickos who love the idea of a bolstered authoritarian figure, pushing them around like this is some God damn pornography.

People that support this father should be castrated. Not sterilized, castrated. It isn't so much I worry about them having kids, as it is they should never have the option nor the enjoyment of the byproduct of reproduction. This is why I'm against abortion. People can't be trusted to do anything on their own... there needs to be checks and balances. Laws, regulations, and bureaucracy, to filter man's wickedness.

This dumb hillbilly is everything that is wrong with the world, and has always been wrong with it.

I am almost sure that laptop was bough with his money, which makes him free to do what he pleases with it. Words don't hurt people? im fairly certain they do if i tell something bad about you that might not be true but people acknowledge it as the truth you may very well have problems in the short term like not getting accepted for a job or costumers because they now dont think you are a person they would like to have bussiness with you, in the worst case possible you could even have the cops after you!

She said she was a slave for doing some work arround the house? I make my own bed, i feed the dog and take him for a walk once in a while, get rid of the garbage and i don't complain because i know im already getting paid either with food on the table, tv or internet. She was in my opinion asking for too much when she already has more than enough, what her father did might not have been the nicest thing in the world but he passed a few clear messages, that she had gone too far insulting her own parents and did not respect what she had.

Sometimes its good to be hard on your children, when i though of getting a new pc my dad said he would not give me the money, it was too expensive he said, but if i paid with my own money, i got 600 euros by the summer and i had the parts i wanted, yet i was wishing i would have a better case to install my parts in because i still had one of those old white and ugly monstrosities, when i said that he congratulated me for working for my own goals and bought me the case i wanted as a reward.

Anybody gonna read my post on how this thread is reaching the point of ridicule? Or is everybody just going to continue to argue over what is no longer about the video, but just about peoples blind emotional opinions. I'd at least like some feed back on my Wall-o-text

SnakeoilSage:

Fairly calm? Listen to how he talks. The way he slurs his speech, he's either drunk or on the verge of a spittle-flecked rage or both. You could doctor in a pair of masked men with AK-47's standing over the laptop and I bet 60% of us wouldn't even notice.

He's nervous, because he's in front of a camera. You thinking he is drunk or angry shows some extreme bias that is causing you to not see something that is very simple.

I would really love to see people's age next to their name in this thread. I think it would explain a lot.

I see nothing wrong with what the father did. You can't tell me I'm the only one on this site who's taken a rifle up to the mountains and blown the shit out of a couple of televisions before? If you haven't done it, try it. Trust me when I say it's pretty freaking awesome.

From what I extrapolated from the video, the girl's been punished for this sort of thing before. She was warned. And the father wanted to get a bit of a point across. She attempted to humiliate him and his wife on a public forum, and in the process ended up insulting a family friend and possibly significantly hurting her chances at getting a decent job.

He made a video responding to the letter addressed to him and his wife explaining exactly what his daughter said that was untrue and what was true. Having been a teenager once myself, I'm inclined to believe the father on this one since I know I've lied to my buddies about how awful my parents are too.

As far as the gun control goes, he made sure he used the gun safely and securely in an area were others couldn't be hurt. He shot the laptop to get a point across to his daughter. It's perfectly legal to use a weapon as he did, and he was obviously in control of the situation. As far as that goes, it works in my book.

I noticed somewhere along the line someone asked if hollow-points were illegal. They're not, unless you're in the state of New Jersey, because New Jersey has some absolutely ridiculous regulations regarding everything from guns to cars.

Jim Profit:
This is why private individuals should not be trusted with anything. Not land, and certainly not people. If all authority is to be questioned, then that goes for family most certainly. Who tends to use emotional abuse over physical. And if he's crazy enough to make a spectacle of his daughter, destroy her laptop, and demand she pay her back for it, all because she called him a meanie online, he's liable to use that gun on her. That girl is in danger living under that lunatic, but nobody wants to see that, because western society is full of fascist sickos who love the idea of a bolstered authoritarian figure, pushing them around like this is some God damn pornography.

People that support this father should be castrated. Not sterilized, castrated. It isn't so much I worry about them having kids, as it is they should never have the option nor the enjoyment of the byproduct of reproduction. This is why I'm against abortion. People can't be trusted to do anything on their own... there needs to be checks and balances. Laws, regulations, and bureaucracy, to filter man's wickedness.

This dumb hillbilly is everything that is wrong with the world, and has always been wrong with it.

You, sir, need to step back and take a good, close look at what you said, because a significant amount of that is both ridiculous and contradictory. First you say that people shouldn't be trusted with anything, not land or people, then you use the term fascist as an insult when you sort of just implied that you would be in favor of a fascist government. Then you go as far as to say that a whole shitton of people should be castrated because they're in favor of some tough love. From your post, it would seem to me that you are, in fact, a fascist yourself. Not to mention you seem to have a gross misunderstanding of what the typical "hillbilly", as you so elegantly put it, wants out of his government. I'd suggest you do some research into right-wing politics before ignorantly running your mouth in the future. It'll make you seem a lot more sophisticated.

Midgeamoo:

Anybody gonna read my post on how this thread is reaching the point of ridicule? Or is everybody just going to continue to argue over what is no longer about the video, but just about peoples blind emotional opinions. I'd at least like some feed back on my Wall-o-text

You may want to just step out of the whole thread mate. I'm pretty sure a lot of people read your genuinely well-thought-out post and just moved on. I know I did, because for some odd reason I'm in the mood for a good argument, logic be damned.

Rationalization:
I would really love to see people's age next to their name in this thread. I think it would explain a lot.

I was thinking essentially the exact same thing. Might be worth making a poll out of...

Apollo45:

Midgeamoo:

Anybody gonna read my post on how this thread is reaching the point of ridicule? Or is everybody just going to continue to argue over what is no longer about the video, but just about peoples blind emotional opinions. I'd at least like some feed back on my Wall-o-text

You may want to just step out of the whole thread mate. I'm pretty sure a lot of people read your genuinely well-thought-out post and just moved on. I know I did, because for some odd reason I'm in the mood for a good argument, logic be damned.

That's what I thought, it's not even about the topic anymore, people just want to disagree and get all ralled up about it

Rationalization:
He's nervous, because he's in front of a camera. You thinking he is drunk or angry shows some extreme bias that is causing you to not see something that is very simple.

I would really love to see people's age next to their name in this thread. I think it would explain a lot.

As opposed to nervous because he knows he's about to discharge a firearm into a laptop because his daughter pisses him off? It's really hilarious the way you defend a man who opens fire on an inanimate object to one-up his teenaged daughter in a pissing contest of who can be the biggest asshole.

And I'm 30. Who's being biased, again?

I salute this man for being a PARENT. All these idiotic kids running around, being disrespectful, egotistical, fake, smartass, know-it-alls need to get their act straight and realize that their parents are their life support.

Without them, they'd be gone a long time ago. And once the parents do cut them off, they will realize that they have no chance of making it on their own.

RedBird:

I'm sorry, every teen needs the dont be a spoiled brat lesson? So All teens are being assosciated with that spoilt little bitch?
A) Good parenting doesn't involve guns
B) Every teen is not an entitled little shit
C) You can't make a general statement like that and expect someone not to disagree.

I will however admit most teens do, but theres at least 50 or 40% of teens who arent

Meh, my dad taught me at a very young age how to use firearms. We go hunting and shooting together quite a bit, and it's one of the primary ways we've bonded over the years. He's an engineer and I'm a writer, he tends to be extremely logical and calm where I'm only just now starting to grow into that side of me. If it weren't for the hunting and shooting, I can imagine there would be quite a bit more tension between me and him.

So, yes, good parenting can involve guns.

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