Anonymous Threatens To Shut Down Internet Next Month

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I don't think they can shut down the internet, it's a bit more complicated than simply hacking I assume
But honestly, Anon has its values right, but the way it does stuff is just ridiculous, do they really think shutting down the internet would support their cause?

Macgyvercas:

Tipsy Giant:

Macgyvercas:

All well and good, but don't forget, in America at least, due to the way the political system is, if you aren't in the Big Two (Democratic or Republican parties), you have next to no chance of getting past the primaries. See, those two party have massive corporations backing them, and they spend quite a bit of their own money too.

I'm not saying that your suggestion is bad. Quite the opposite. I'm just saying that unless the system changes, we're stuck with shit in Washington.

True but at the same time, you can run a political campaign for free on the internet and most people in america don't vote (probably because all candidates are powerless figure heads) so if you can inspire that portion of the population (a lot of which is young) to get involved from the ground up, you could take your country back from the ignorant (republicans) and the elites (democrats), but remember worse comes to worse just vote for anyone who isn't more obviously evil than a supervillan (republicans).

Interesting. If I had any desire to be in the public spotlight, I might try this. But I don't, so I won't.

And I have noticed that I've been siding with the Democrats more lately. Republicans have been pissing me off.

I have never heard a republican speech that didn't make me facepalm, the constant demonisation of socialism (when mixed with capitalism correctly is the only form of sustainable government), the hatred or at least the manipulation of hatred for other religions, other races, other sexualities....

They aren't christians! Christ was a huge socialist who believed NO RICH MAN CAN ENTER HEAVEN, yet that's conveniently forgotten.

probably a troll, The internet is way to big to shut down the only way to do that is to shut down every form of power or a world wide EMP

I seriously doubt they're going to do this. Anonymous has said time and time again that they support things that help people (remember when someone threatened on their behalf to kill Facebook?), and the Internet most definitely helps people. This isn't Anonymous making a threat, it's someone claiming to be Anonymous talking out of their ass.

oh my...
Well I hope they won't, can't they just hack themselves into the computers of the ones behind sopa and leave messages saying to stop it.

thepyrethatburns:
I would get into how this won't work and the issues with trying to hit the 13 DNS servers.

However, I'll just let you read about the last real attack which shut down 9 of 13 servers.

http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/dns/secure-root-dns-servers_991

Honestly, I'd actually be tickled if they did it. What better way for the governments to take full control of the internet? All they'd have to do is keep the servers down while claiming that the attack did more damage than was advertised. (And how would Anonymous claim otherwise?) In the meantime, while the root servers are down, it wouldn't be too hard to either add a few steps to the process to help provide tracking information for who goes to what site or have the servers "accidently forget" the links between the DNS name and the IP address for troublesome sites such as Wikileaks. So, when they start bringing the servers up one at a time (to make sure their new steps work), the governments of the world now have both an internet more to their liking and a patsy to bear the brunt of everyone's wrath.

Hell, thinking about it, most people don't even really know how the servers work. It could be claimed that the servers were damaged beyond repair by the cyber-attack but, fortunately, a number of corporations (such as Comcast or AT&T) have volunteered their servers to be the new DNS servers. Most people would be so grateful to have their internet back that they wouldn't even notice an odd loss of net neutrality.

Honestly, this would be kinda funny in a "wow, you just managed to sink your own cause in one stroke" way.

This guy has a point.

ToTaL LoLiGe:
Anon's gone mad with 'power'

But of course, but consider, have you ever tried to go mad without power? Its doesnt work, nobody listens to you...

*Edit*

Oh, and I have no idea how alot of this shit works (the internet to me is its own little, porn filled, black box. But even I can tell this would be a stupid idea...

hahah you dont need some big ol hacktivist group to take down the internet

you just need to ealk out and locate the right cables to cut :P

Strain42:

1. A well crafted argument for your case that showcases a lack of violent behavior on your part or...

2. Calling them a nasty name and saying how they should die for even thinking such slanderous things.

...I'll give you a hint, it's not 2.

Of course not. It's 3.

3. Call them a nasty word for homosexual, shoot them, then teabag their body.

>.>

Vault101:
hahah you dont need some big ol hacktivist group to take down the internet

you just need to ealk out and locate the right cables to cut :P

You're asking Anon to go out and do something? Not happening. :p

Anon's escalating antics bring to mind the short called "Rebel Rabbit" with Bugs Bunny. The key points are around 5:19 and 6:15, the first being where government demands a price on Bugs Bunny's head and the second being where Bugs finally says "Ehh! Could it be that I carried this thing too far?", gets blown up by a ring of shells around him, and then ends in jail.

A political/social philosophy from a comic book sounds cool, until you discover it's really just BS and doesn't work well in reality.

OT ADDENDUM: Of course, the same could be said of the actions of content publishers. While they won't necessarily face the possibility of jail, they quite definitely face the possibility of extinction as the entire market moves away from them out of sheer and utter loss of patience with their draconian tactics, and when they finally go out-of-business, I doubt anyone will care because of the complete animosity they have engendered with their customers(I know I certainly won't shed much a tear).

I just find it strange that the "leet haxor" group Anonymous don't seem to understand the concept of the internet. The internet is more or less an abstract idea, not an actual thing. As long as there is an open connection between two different computers the "internet" still exists, even though you might not be able to find the websites you want.

Wow.....this is pretty hypocritical of them. I do wonder how this would affect the world though......

Is it possible to DDOS the 13 core DNS? Of course.
Could Anonymous accomplish it? I don't see why not.

Will anyone actually see any effects? Not unless they managed to keep them offline for a significantly extended period of time. When you request a webpage and DNS is queried it does not go to one of the core servers, it goes to your ISP's DNS server or whichever other DNS service you have configured your PC to use. So ultimately no effect to the general public beyond a possible slowing down of the internet as massive amounts of bandwidth are consumed to DDOS the DNS system.

I doubt its that easy, whatever happens it will be bad for all of us. Media: dat damned terrorists!!11! We need sopa to has internetz!.

I don't know if anybody within the past 4 pages has pointed out the obvious, and to be honest I have no faith in the people here at the escapist to think anyone has, but has anyone actually looked at OP's "News" source? It is a single document written in Notepad uploaded to pastebin.

That's it.

I could do that right now, put in some quotes by Founding fathers, call myself anonymous, and claim i'm going to hack NASA. Would some stupid fuck at TomsGuide.com write an article about me?

Gullible idiots.

So... they want to promote and express free speech and thought... by taking away one of the least regulated sources that an individual can go to. I see.

so... when what was it, syria i think, and egypt went through their revolutions and used to internet to their cause, Anon basically wants to take that away.

Yep, and they're the "good guys". This is why id ont support anon.

Regnes:
I like how they're calling their attacks "protests" now. They lost a lot of respect from the internet community as a whole last month with the Megaupload vengeance strike.

Lol, calling this a valid way of protesting is just as absurd as when George Bush declared US involvement in Iraq a humanitarian action.

1. open command prompt
2. type in "ping website.com"
3. write down the ip it displays
4. ???
5. PROFIT

I'm not even going to describe what I think about this because enough people have already stated that Anon would have to be full of mental retards to actually shut down the internet. Besides, the only thing that they would really accomplish is royally screwing themselves over.

RagTagBand:
I don't know if anybody within the past 4 pages has pointed out the obvious, and to be honest I have no faith in the people here at the escapist to think anyone has, but has anyone actually looked at OP's "News" source? It is a single document written in Notepad uploaded to pastebin.

That's it.

I could do that right now, put in some quotes by Founding fathers, call myself anonymous, and claim i'm going to hack NASA. Would some stupid fuck at TomsGuide.com write an article about me?

Gullible idiots.

That may be true, but even if this was an actual message from Anon they'd still have to be mentally retarded to think pulling it off would be a good thing.

I like how there's some people that still defend Anonymous as if they're some sort of moral crusaders standing up against big evil government and corporations.

Nevermind the fact that, back in 2008, a group of "Anonymous" guys originating from one of the chans (possibly a different "Anonymous" from the current one that DDoS's websites as a protest, but since they all go by Anonymous, it's basically impossible to tell) raided a forum hosted by the Epilepsy Foundation and filled it with rapidly flickering high-contrast animated GIFs. You can probably guess the effect this had on the people who visited the site.

Their efforts used to be largely focused around malevolent themes of that sort before they decided to redirect their energy toward more moral and political causes. The goal wasn't just laughter or amusement, but laughter or amusement at someone else's expense, something they termed "doing it for the lulz". I believe A Clockwork Orange had a different term for that sort of thing.

dobahci:

Their efforts used to be largely focused around malevolent themes of that sort before they decided to redirect their energy toward more moral and political causes. The goal wasn't just laughter or amusement, but laughter or amusement at someone else's expense, something they termed "doing it for the lulz". I believe A Clockwork Orange had a different term for that sort of thing.

Ultra-violence? actually a clockwork orange is a good example of the catch 22 that is the internet. On one side we have the public (Alex and his droogs) basically getting away with murder when it comes to piracy and on the other we have the government (the government) who is trying to make everyone safer by removing freedoms from the public.

But it's wrong to assume anon is an organized force that has been growing for 4 years. It's just a bunch of like-minded people who have too much free time on their hands and enjoy messing stuff up (or helping people). Anon is a collection of people that each have their own ideals and morals, not a group with a definite goal.

But they won't shut the internet down, this is no different from when they said they'd take down mastercard, and then they took down Mastercard.... 's website.

Anon are like a very cheesy villian, telling everyone there plan before they do it. All they need is to add "Muahahahahahahah" and it would be perfect.

SonOfVoorhees:
Anon are like a very cheesy villian, telling everyone there plan before they do it. All they need is to add "Muahahahahahahah" and it would be perfect.

Except that most of the times, they don't do anything at all.

1.) I seriously doubt that Anon has the manpower and resources to take down the ENTIRE internet. At best, they could maybe knock out a city for a few hours.

2.)Even if they could, all this would do is show the world that their fears about hackers and pirates are justified and they would bring back SOPA and PIPA.

3.) I'm guessing that most of Anon's members are internet geeks too, and shutting down the internet would be like destroying a junkie's entire supply of drugs.

thaluikhain:

Matthew94:
The media would just pull out "DEM CRAZY CYBER TERRORISTS" card, no one would know their true intentions and it might even sway people towards SOPA/PIPA etc.

In what way would they be wrong to do so?

If Anon really did this, they'd prove their opponents correct about as well as they could do. Governmental restrictions on the internet sound a lot fairer than no internet whatsoever.

And how would sopa stop anonymous from doing what they do? I don't understand why you think it would... wouldn't anonymous be more likely to try and shut down the internet permanently if sopa is involved?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, they're serious? Okay.

I'm kind of okay with this. It's time that our governments learn that they're supposed to be afraid of the people. Not the other way around.

Ya know, part of me thinks that they are just saying this (giving a detailed explanation on what they will do) so whoever is in charge fixes what they claimed to be targeting, therefore making the internet stronger.

Seriously if they actually went through with this it would be bad. For us, for them, for everyone. They can't be that stupid, right?

Craziest thing about all this: I think they might be able to do it.

I've heard this rumor before and I say that if a bunch of hackers could disable the entire internet at will, someone would have done that long ago. Like China.

Well, this would be high level anti-lolz. I can't see the core anons supporting this, only the psychos.

Logiclul:

thepyrethatburns:
I would get into how this won't work and the issues with trying to hit the 13 DNS servers.

However, I'll just let you read about the last real attack which shut down 9 of 13 servers.

You're bluffing, you have little idea what you're talking about.

I'd be interested in hearing you explain how I'm bluffing/wrong. I'm including the link again for the last real attack for reference.

http://www.sans.org/reading_room/whitepapers/dns/secure-root-dns-servers_991

That would be interesting to see, if they can do that. They should redirect to a Anonymous page explaining their objective instead.

The Occupy movement had the virtue of being rather clear. You had minimum-wage folks like me stepping out to literally ask for better working conditions and to protest at how the financial sector is drowning in cash.

This, though? Shutting down the Internet would only give more fuel to the SOPA/PIPA/ACTA camp. The only way for the Web to remain uncensored is if we prove to these paranoid bureaucrats that we can behave in a mature and sensible manner, and that the percentile of pedophiles and other predators in the system is ridiculously small.

The Web *must* self-regulate. If companies and governments start enforcing their agendas, even if it's supposedly for the greater good, free speech is lost. It's safe to say that Anon simply isn't a decent watchdog group. They've got their moral outrage in the right places on some occasions, but their methods are far too extreme, not to mention poorly considered.

um....how is that even possible when the internet is just a series of connections to other computers?
its basicly a giant ass lan line that doesnt have a central dividing point.

theyd have to take out every provider, satellite, phone, line ect in the world.

also, anon....you guys are just retarded now, ok?

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