Anonymous Threatens To Shut Down Internet Next Month

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Theseus32:

Yeah. You're right. The 3rd reich had secret police brutally beating the shit out of innocent protes.. umm.. Well they had a massively active propaganda apparatus in the form of their medi... umm... They were massively authoritarian, actually having the audacity to declare the entire planet a battlefi... err...

Umm.. yeah, you're right. The USA in no way strongly seems to represent the exact beginning of nazi germany right down to the wording of the bills, which is doubtless just a REALLY big coincidence anyway. I'm sure we have nothing to worry about.

And keep in mind, not everything that anon does gets a press release. You wanna find out what they're about, go ASK them.

Yeah, because in the USA the police is beating the shit out of innocent protesters... If you mean the police that got blocked by protesters, talked to them and warned them that they are gonna use force against them... No, I won't call that innocent. I call that stupid.

What propaganda? You really think there is some kind of propaganda going on in the USA? Give me examples.

I missed the note where the USA declares the entire planet a battlefield. Link please.

Again, if you try to compare something to the 3rd reich you'd better have some good points, not the senseless reciting of anon bullshit.

No, the USA is not strongly representing the beginning of Nazi Germany. There are more things needed to be even close to that, starting from the people willingly welcome a "saviour" from all the problems they have.

And no, I won't talk to kids and terrorists who only fight for their porn and "lulz".

GoaThief:

Theseus32:
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Woah, easy now - methinks you've drunk too much of the anon kool aid.

The Zeitgeist movement and the like are far more progressive and instrumental in "waking sheeple up" than Anon - unless of course you can tell us how defacing a website that supported people with photosensitive epilepsy with tons of flashing images is "sticking it to the man"?

Don't assume everyone is a government lackey and is completely ignorant of the current situation humanity finds itself in either. Anon is just part of the game, be careful of where you make your bed young crusader.

Firstly, been a long time since I've been able to pass for "young".

Secondly, no the epilepsy thing was really just supposed to be funny. That was a different version of anon though, back when it had less of a social conscience and the stakes weren't quite so high.

As it stands though, things have moved well past the DDOS/defacing stuff, and aren't likely to reverse course. And while the esteemed Mr Jones has some fascinating theories about the secret masters of the planet, anonymous is out their trying to get their names, addresses and phone numbers. With all the implied risks that would entail.

The powers that be will counter this with a smear campaign, which, if you've been paying attention, is already in full swing. The time is coming fast where humanity's going to have to pick a side, 'cuse if you think about it, were it not for the governments and corporations of earth, I'm fairly certain we'd have the whole "world peace" thing worked out in an afternoon. They're holding humanity back and trying to find more permanent ways to do so. Support em or not, anon's trying like hell to prevent that.

uh huh .... right ....

they'll never pull it off and even if they did, it would only garner the hate of the entire internet dwelling population, not to mention make things worse in regards to internet regulating bills.

but since they won't, or rather, can't, nothing to see here, move along

I'm sorry, how do we know this is actually Anonymous?

GigaHz:
I'm a bit shocked that more people here aren't backing up their decision.

Would you sacrifice a few hours, a day, a week, even a month of no internet to send a message to those who are trying to limit your freedom?

I know I would. What's better, you don't actually need to do anything other than wait.

Yep but i dont want it done for me. And i dont want it done like this. Crudely and stupidly. This wont send a message. Other than "the internet is full of idiots who will do drastic and terrible things at the slightest provokation PLEASE shut it down". I want to protest my way and i dont appreciate idiots trying to do it for me to send a message on my behalf. I dont know about you but im perfectly capable of speaking for myself. I give up a moment to defend my own freedom. I dont sit back and let anon do it for me. And do it wrong. Sendind a message that we are all idiots whod take down the internet to prove no point at all. Wikipedia blackouts, google blackouts, petitions, reasoned letters to local politicions, reasoned letters to governors and senators and the white house. Thats how you win a political battle. Not by threatening the other side with a "IF I DONT GET MY WAY NO ONE GETS IT" ultimatum.

Tipsy Giant:

Macgyvercas:

Tipsy Giant:

True but at the same time, you can run a political campaign for free on the internet and most people in america don't vote (probably because all candidates are powerless figure heads) so if you can inspire that portion of the population (a lot of which is young) to get involved from the ground up, you could take your country back from the ignorant (republicans) and the elites (democrats), but remember worse comes to worse just vote for anyone who isn't more obviously evil than a supervillan (republicans).

Interesting. If I had any desire to be in the public spotlight, I might try this. But I don't, so I won't.

And I have noticed that I've been siding with the Democrats more lately. Republicans have been pissing me off.

I have never heard a republican speech that didn't make me facepalm, the constant demonisation of socialism (when mixed with capitalism correctly is the only form of sustainable government), the hatred or at least the manipulation of hatred for other religions, other races, other sexualities....

They aren't christians! Christ was a huge socialist who believed NO RICH MAN CAN ENTER HEAVEN, yet that's conveniently forgotten.

Tipsy Giant:

Macgyvercas:

Tipsy Giant:

True but at the same time, you can run a political campaign for free on the internet and most people in america don't vote (probably because all candidates are powerless figure heads) so if you can inspire that portion of the population (a lot of which is young) to get involved from the ground up, you could take your country back from the ignorant (republicans) and the elites (democrats), but remember worse comes to worse just vote for anyone who isn't more obviously evil than a supervillan (republicans).

Interesting. If I had any desire to be in the public spotlight, I might try this. But I don't, so I won't.

And I have noticed that I've been siding with the Democrats more lately. Republicans have been pissing me off.

I have never heard a republican speech that didn't make me facepalm, the constant demonisation of socialism (when mixed with capitalism correctly is the only form of sustainable government), the hatred or at least the manipulation of hatred for other religions, other races, other sexualities....

They aren't christians! Christ was a huge socialist who believed NO RICH MAN CAN ENTER HEAVEN, yet that's conveniently forgotten.

Yes the Republicans seem to conveniently forget their own supposed commitment to things like small Gov't and the like when it suits them, especially in regard to gay marriage. Plus they have Sarah Palin.By the way, yesterday john Cleese posted a Video on youtube calling Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck idiots. He also called Fox News a platform for ignoramuses. I got a really good laugh out of that.

Oh no! Oh jesus no! You mean I'd have to go out into the world and do things without the internet? FUUUUUUUUCK! *loads one bullet into a revolver* where's my scotch at?

Oh, like the threat they made to the mexican cartel. How did that turned out, Anon?

I doubt they even have the capability to do this, and if they do, they are jsut feeding the PIPA fire.

What?! Bullshit. If they could do it, they would have done it. Done it, brought it back, then bragged about it afterwords in order to get the credit. And we all know this to be true, don't we? Oh please, no true hacker would come out and make a "I'm really gonna do it, this time" announcement about it before hand, risking having someone else get the jump. So, I call bullshit on this.

BiscuitTrouser:

Theseus32:

cora mcstrap:
PLease some1 bring these people down. Can't they see they are actually ensure SOPA and the like passes with their distructive atempts to make mysevles look like the savours of the internet when in fact they r part of the problem that plagues the internet. Without people like this the internet wouldn;t need the legisaltion Governments are trying to impose. Grow up and be come useful memebrs of socity rather then children throwing thier toys out of the pram

You're an idiot.

Look. You really think this was a case of anon popping up and the feds suddenly deciding, "Oh noes, now we must censor thems."

They started the censorship shit first. Every single thing anon has done has been in response to that. Keep in mind, until anon sounded the warning bells, SOPA was scheduled to pass months ago. And would have done, easily. The governments are trying to censor your free speech. They want to shut off communication. If they can't control the internet (spoiler: they can't) then they'll shut the damned thing off and anonymous is the ONLY thing keeping that happening. They are LITERALLY risking their lives so you can haz your delisious 0dayz. While you cower, bent over and lubed up for the man, they stand and fight, specifically so you don't have to.

I love how the media talking point response now is as if somehow sopa is the government response to anon. Bullshit. Anon was happily jacking it to trap pr0n for years before the USA tried to take over the entire internet. If they'd left anon alone, anon woulda left them alone. THEY started this. And now they won't stop until you don't have an original thought left in your head. With some, that takes a lot more effort than others.

Spin it how you want. Anon are the good guys. Possibly the last ones left on earth. And they will fight to defend you, even if your ass is too stupid to realize you need defending.

Im afraid youre an idiot. Who stopped SOPA. Was it idiot teens hacking and DDossing and revealing politicians information online? No. It was not. You know what that did? It made your avergae voter AFRAID of the internet. And they should be. Remember when lulzsec took down escapist because we said BAD THIGS about them? Remember when they did that in attempt to make is FEAR saying those bad things again so we would only say THE RIGHT THINGS to defend our freedom of speech? Remember when that was a huge hypocritical bag of crap? I know what stopped SOPA. It was when companies with real political pull listened to the voice of the people and went on strike for that day, wikipedia, google, all those websites.

Im not going to lick ANON boot because you somehow think we are all indebted to these gods of the interwebs. I owe them fuck all. And i think they are a bunch of filthy hypocrits. Fighting against the removal "freedom of speech" while hacking and DDOSSING all competition. Then they try and stop all dissenting voices through fear. When they hacked that politicians personal details that was terrorism. And no not shitty people die terrorism. Not actually people hurt terrorism. I mean dictionary terrorism. Attempting to make people do what you want using fear. Attach no connotations to that word. Im using it literally and correctly. That politicion was targetted and attacked to try and make him stop saying things they didnt like. Doesnt that sound HORRIBLY hypocritical to you?

You think the average american and idiot politicion was impressed by that stupid childish shit? You think it changed their minds about how serious and important the internet is to us? All it said was the internet is full of idiot children who have power over real details and peoples money. That sounds like something worth censoring to me. But i know that isnt what the internet is. And thus censoring it is wrong. Anon sends the wrong message about what the internet is. They are not freedom fighters. They are not making a political difference. Companies made of REAL adults carefully, precisely and clearly sent a message with the blackout day. CLear goals were announced, the blackout had meaning, and no rash or personal attacks were made. Politicions listened. I remember history class. Do you? People actively fighting hitlers men in the streets only made shit worse. "LOOK" hitler would cry "FIGHTING IN THE STREETS!, give me more power to stop this!".

We cannot reason with a world that doesnt understand the internet through force and childish threats of personal attacks. Ever read watchmen? "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" Or "Who will guard the guards". To defend our freedom of speech Anon now has power of me. And you. ANd everyone here. If they wanted my credit card details and such they could take them. I am completely within their power. They might read this and take exception to my dissenting voice, punishing me. They did it to the escapist? Why not attack me for saying bad things about them. Carefully "remove" those who disagree. Totally pure motives there. Its all for the "greater good". Our "defenders" have total and uncontrolled power over you, companies, and the way we talk on the internet. Maybe they wont. But they can. And doesnt that scare you? SOPA gives the government the potential to control what you can say. Anon already has that potential. They could attack any site they dont like.

I dont want that power to be with anyone. Not the government. Not anon. I want to petition. I want to write formal and well reasoned letters to my MP. I want to write reasoned and formal letters to companies asking for support. I want legitimate protests and reasonable blackouts/boycotts to show our support for a cause. I dont want random idiots represnting me. Anon may be defending you. They may represent you. But they dont defend or represent me. Im not too stupid to know i need defending. Im smart enough to know i dont want or NEED defending by THEM specifically. Anon may be trying to bat for the right team. But they let go of the bat a lot. And they swing hard and innacurratly. The internet blackout would mean and represent so much more were it done WILLINGLY by companies and providers SHOWING that more than a few teenagers care about this bill. This is an empty gesture and will prove nothing.

We're agreed on one score at least, the blackout is a stupid idea. It is massively uncharacteristic and reeks of cointelpro.

The thing you're forgetting though is something fundamental. Anon has no leaders. Really and genuinely, not a darned one of em. Yes, they could do all sorts of mischief, but they don't. Because anon is comprised entirely of folks just like you, in the millions. If you wouldn't, odds are VERY good that they wouldn't either.

Now contrast that with the companies controlling the net and the government regulating the net, neither of whom particularly care what YOU think, particularly when it would increase their bottom line to ignore you.

Anyone, everyone and no one is a part of anon, simply by virtue of a particular outlook on any given day. You can't corrupt that system. You can't bribe them, hire them, manipulate them etc. Because anon has roughly 7 billion potential members, and will focus their efforts and interests according to the will of those who deign to show up. It is, if anything, the ultimate expression of true democracy in action. And far from running into the tyranny of the majority, even one dissenting voice is enough to stop any action, provided it speaks with enough logic and clarity. Now, I realize anon has taken the occasional swipe at the escapist, but I'd be very doubtful that it was over any actual hostility and not just the usual trolling. They hacked PBS too, doesn't make Reading Rainbow any less awesome. And full credit where its due from the SOPA blackout, but the ACTA's the same damn thing and that's the next fight. 6 internet censorship bills in 2 months. Think about that. And as it stands, even if all of them get shot down, they'll be ready with 30 more in a month until they get what they want. Unless, of course, people stop them.

BiscuitTrouser:

GigaHz:
I'm a bit shocked that more people here aren't backing up their decision.

Would you sacrifice a few hours, a day, a week, even a month of no internet to send a message to those who are trying to limit your freedom?

I know I would. What's better, you don't actually need to do anything other than wait.

Yep but i dont want it done for me. And i dont want it done like this. Crudely and stupidly. This wont send a message. Other than "the internet is full of idiots who will do drastic and terrible things at the slightest provokation PLEASE shut it down". I want to protest my way and i dont appreciate idiots trying to do it for me to send a message on my behalf. I dont know about you but im perfectly capable of speaking for myself. I give up a moment to defend my own freedom. I dont sit back and let anon do it for me. And do it wrong. Sendind a message that we are all idiots whod take down the internet to prove no point at all. Wikipedia blackouts, google blackouts, petitions, reasoned letters to local politicions, reasoned letters to governors and senators and the white house. Thats how you win a political battle. Not by threatening the other side with a "IF I DONT GET MY WAY NO ONE GETS IT" ultimatum.

I'll agree it's a bit extreme, and it's a tad crude. Then again, look how far the black outs, petitions, and letters have got us. Sure, we've slain the mighty SOPA (or postponed it) but what grew from it? Four similar bills. One way or another SOPA or at least elements of SOPA, will eventually pass.

I believe in diplomacy and sound reasoning, I really do, but my beliefs don't necessarily reflect the viewpoints of major corporations. They will always hold a larger sway than any letter or argument I present. Personally, I don't think Anonymous is capable of accomplishing something this grand in scale. But if they do achieve it, it's a legitimate accomplishment and it will send a powerful message.

Or, it might just be the action that brings bills like SOPA into effect, under the guise of global protection.

Realistically, my money is on nothing happening. The idea behind it is intriguing to say the least.

TheKasp:

Theseus32:

Yeah. You're right. The 3rd reich had secret police brutally beating the shit out of innocent protes.. umm.. Well they had a massively active propaganda apparatus in the form of their medi... umm... They were massively authoritarian, actually having the audacity to declare the entire planet a battlefi... err...

Umm.. yeah, you're right. The USA in no way strongly seems to represent the exact beginning of nazi germany right down to the wording of the bills, which is doubtless just a REALLY big coincidence anyway. I'm sure we have nothing to worry about.

And keep in mind, not everything that anon does gets a press release. You wanna find out what they're about, go ASK them.

Yeah, because in the USA the police is beating the shit out of innocent protesters... If you mean the police that got blocked by protesters, talked to them and warned them that they are gonna use force against them... No, I won't call that innocent. I call that stupid.

What propaganda? You really think there is some kind of propaganda going on in the USA? Give me examples.

I missed the note where the USA declares the entire planet a battlefield. Link please.

Again, if you try to compare something to the 3rd reich you'd better have some good points, not the senseless reciting of anon bullshit.

No, the USA is not strongly representing the beginning of Nazi Germany. There are more things needed to be even close to that, starting from the people willingly welcome a "saviour" from all the problems they have.

And no, I won't talk to kids and terrorists who only fight for their porn and "lulz".

K. Firstly, I was actually at an occupy protest a few months ago and got to see a dude with a camera shot with about 30 pepperballs at close range with no warning. His entire arm was black and blue and he got knocked out of the tree he was taking pictures from. Damn near broke his neck. I've also seen a cop break the jaw of a crazy homeless woman who had no access to her anti-psychotic medication. With a club no less. This was after the police had directed her to the occupy encampment a few weeks earlier, where she was fed and given warm clothes. I could go on, and these are only the things I witnessed firsthand, but there is HOURS of video out there of cops curb-stomping protesters. Look at the actual footage of these events. The cops are the aggressors, ever single time. Now, after you've watched people you've known, talked with, broken bread with and generally liked for several months get stomped into a bloody puddle by someone looking like an extra from a swat team, some of the more temperamental folk tend to get a mite incensed, which is doubtless what you're referring to.

As to propaganda, I would point to the entire media, left and right. They're all so concerned with appealing to their demographic that no one seems to even care about the truth anymore. I don't know if this is by legitimate design. It would seem to be, but that would be pure speculation. Either way though, the fact remains that the one certainty you can have about the mainstream media on the right and the left, particularly in the US, is that it is a wholly owned subsidiary of whoever has the biggest checkbook.

And regarding the declaration of earth as a battlefield, yeah, the US totally did that. Look up the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012. Fun fact, this also allows them to kidnap anyone in the US, strip them of their citizenship, ship them off to all sorts of interesting nations with no laws against torture and do all of this without, you know, actually TELLING anyone that they've done it. Oh, and they can do this in any other nations they want to as well. Ya know. In case anyone on earth doesn't think the US is awesome.

But as you were clearly not aware of these things, I won't hold any of it against you. You see where I'm coming from hopefully. The only thing america is LACKING in fact, on its road to totalitarianism is a charismatic leader running on a platform of hope and... wait... dammit!

If this was even possible, which I'm highly doubting anyway, it's just dangerously shortsighted. The internet is worth a lot more to people than just entertainment. Even a temporary shutdown could potentially have devastating effects.

Besides, this seems less like a protest and more like a cry for attention. "OMG WE SHUT DOWN TEH GOVERNMENT EXCEPT NOT REALLY! STILL NOBODY LISTENS TO US?!?!? WE'LL SHOW YOU! WE'LL SHOW YOU ALL!!!"

Such childish escalation. I'd say I expected better, but then I've been calling Anon a bunch of attention-seeking children for years now. So this is about par for the course, to be honest. And still, the world will say "wtf?!" for about 1 day then forget all about it.

Hell YEAH! Go Anon! Free speech! Free speech! Free spe-

They have enough trouble taking down a website.

Lol, oh god, I would actually really enjoy seeing that happen. Many a laugh would be had by all...or at least a few. Hearing of so many people disconnected from their "precious" facebook would be worth it to me.

What these guys should be doing is focusing on attacking the assfucks that deserve it, big banking cartels, the FEDS, and all the other corporate scummers that really deserve it.

Theseus32:
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You, my friend, need to take a chill pill. If you don't like pills, take a chill strip. Peel it off, stick it on your tongue, chill.

1. I've seen plenty of police be perfectly reasonable in crazy situations. Just nobody films it because it doesn't get views.

2. I'd say the media is more sensationalist than sinister. They mostly tell the truth, at least during the actual reporting parts, it's just that they spin it after the fact. Not many really care for the spin, though, and those that do are typically branded as crazies. Contrary to popular belief, Americans aren't actually very fond of crazies.

3. Obama is not exactly taking the country by storm after a rousing speech in the middle of a bar. He's a level-headed guy with level-headed goals, which is why he won the presidency in the first place. I didn't vote for him and even I can see he's a pretty calm, knowledgeable guy. He's not a psychopath like Hitler, not even close to it. Plus more than half the country doesn't like the job he's done so far.

4. I've never even heard of that law. Unless you are referring to the one that allows US citizens to be detained without a trial, yea, that's kind of fucked up. But even still, it's probably never going to amount to police state bull crap like you think.

People's actions are often not as altruistic as they seem, but then they are also almost never as sinister.

Jack the Potato:

Theseus32:
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4. I've never even heard of that law. Unless you are referring to the one that allows US citizens to be detained without a trial, yea, that's kind of fucked up. But even still, it's probably never going to amount to police state bull crap like you think.

The NDAA was passed a few months ago, and is definitely there, and is very dangerous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1540enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr1540enr.pdf

This is one bill that absolutely amazes me that our fucktard government would EVER accept and vote for, but we live in a country of the misinformed so I guess I shouldn't be shocked. Dangerous bill right here.

jpoon:

Jack the Potato:

Theseus32:
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4. I've never even heard of that law. Unless you are referring to the one that allows US citizens to be detained without a trial, yea, that's kind of fucked up. But even still, it's probably never going to amount to police state bull crap like you think.

The NDAA was passed a few months ago, and is definitely there, and is very dangerous.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2012

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr1540enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr1540enr.pdf

This is one bill that absolutely amazes me that our fucktard government would EVER accept and vote for, but we live in a country of the misinformed so I guess I shouldn't be shocked. Dangerous bill right here.

Yea, I agree. But nothing evil has yet come of it, so the people aren't concerned. If something should happen that outrages the people, then the people will demand it's revision or removal. That's how America works, after all.

BiscuitTrouser:

GigaHz:
I'm a bit shocked that more people here aren't backing up their decision.

Would you sacrifice a few hours, a day, a week, even a month of no internet to send a message to those who are trying to limit your freedom?

I know I would. What's better, you don't actually need to do anything other than wait.

Yep but i dont want it done for me. And i dont want it done like this. Crudely and stupidly. This wont send a message. Other than "the internet is full of idiots who will do drastic and terrible things at the slightest provokation PLEASE shut it down". I want to protest my way and i dont appreciate idiots trying to do it for me to send a message on my behalf. I dont know about you but im perfectly capable of speaking for myself. I give up a moment to defend my own freedom. I dont sit back and let anon do it for me. And do it wrong. Sendind a message that we are all idiots whod take down the internet to prove no point at all. Wikipedia blackouts, google blackouts, petitions, reasoned letters to local politicions, reasoned letters to governors and senators and the white house. Thats how you win a political battle. Not by threatening the other side with a "IF I DONT GET MY WAY NO ONE GETS IT" ultimatum.

Amen. I don't want to get Shanghai'd into something like this by a bunch of internet terrorists.

Hmm... I shall be eagerly awaiting the thirty first then. I am quite interested to see such a 'feat'. Who knows, perhaps they will be able to pull it off. I think that all it will accomplish is the aggravation of most uninformed internet users. We'll see.

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Theseus32:

GoaThief:

Theseus32:
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Woah, easy now - methinks you've drunk too much of the anon kool aid.

The Zeitgeist movement and the like are far more progressive and instrumental in "waking sheeple up" than Anon - unless of course you can tell us how defacing a website that supported people with photosensitive epilepsy with tons of flashing images is "sticking it to the man"?

Don't assume everyone is a government lackey and is completely ignorant of the current situation humanity finds itself in either. Anon is just part of the game, be careful of where you make your bed young crusader.

Firstly, been a long time since I've been able to pass for "young".

Secondly, no the epilepsy thing was really just supposed to be funny. That was a different version of anon though, back when it had less of a social conscience and the stakes weren't quite so high.

As it stands though, things have moved well past the DDOS/defacing stuff, and aren't likely to reverse course. And while the esteemed Mr Jones has some fascinating theories about the secret masters of the planet, anonymous is out their trying to get their names, addresses and phone numbers. With all the implied risks that would entail.

The powers that be will counter this with a smear campaign, which, if you've been paying attention, is already in full swing. The time is coming fast where humanity's going to have to pick a side, 'cuse if you think about it, were it not for the governments and corporations of earth, I'm fairly certain we'd have the whole "world peace" thing worked out in an afternoon. They're holding humanity back and trying to find more permanent ways to do so. Support em or not, anon's trying like hell to prevent that.

Is this the same Mr. Jones who stated that gay people are being artifically created using juice boxes and the like?

Actually I'm pretty sure everyone who looked at this and legitimately thought it was Anon instead of just a group of kids using the name and sending files everywhere don't know what they're talking about.

Lemme put it like this in an extremely Creedy way; Anon is kind of like the Assassins. The ones that are really, really good, nobody will even have known they were there. Simply announcing that they're going to do something is an automatic pointer that its just some kids using the mask as a means to do something. Which is probably because they're too butthurt to understand what freedom really even means.

In other news.

Yes, SOPA, ACTA, all that, its stupid. Let it pass, and it'll die within days because there will be constant riots. That's the solution to the problem.

Without internet, there is no Anon. Simple as that.

But I need the internet to do internet things! We can't be seperated for even a moment -- I'll have terrible withdrawal symptoms! Oh snap, I can feel them already...
...the ants.

They're everywhere!

Its either crazy or genius. One of two things will happen.

1) They alienate the supporters they do have and get themselves internationally branded at cyber terrorists in basically every country that matters.

2) The completely global communication and economic standstill generated by the lack of the internet will make these technologically retarded idiots in power realise just how important the internet is bother allowing for more open, honest and informed view on internet issues, if for no reason other than they all hire techies for aids, as well as brining the current legislation issues into the complete public global domain so that full nations will begin objecting to 1 countries or groups stupid laws.

There is a possibility it could do both, which would be for history to decide if they made an honest sacrifice. I also think announcing it is a clever move since it allows nations and organisations to plan redundancies in case the net DOES go down thus allowing for things like militaries to not fail completely and do something stupid.

Either way, I will wait with baited breath for the potential fallout if this actually comes to fruition.

Theseus32:

We're agreed on one score at least, the blackout is a stupid idea. It is massively uncharacteristic and reeks of cointelpro.

The thing you're forgetting though is something fundamental. Anon has no leaders. Really and genuinely, not a darned one of em. Yes, they could do all sorts of mischief, but they don't. Because anon is comprised entirely of folks just like you, in the millions. If you wouldn't, odds are VERY good that they wouldn't either.

Now contrast that with the companies controlling the net and the government regulating the net, neither of whom particularly care what YOU think, particularly when it would increase their bottom line to ignore you.

Anyone, everyone and no one is a part of anon, simply by virtue of a particular outlook on any given day. You can't corrupt that system. You can't bribe them, hire them, manipulate them etc. Because anon has roughly 7 billion potential members, and will focus their efforts and interests according to the will of those who deign to show up. It is, if anything, the ultimate expression of true democracy in action. And far from running into the tyranny of the majority, even one dissenting voice is enough to stop any action, provided it speaks with enough logic and clarity. Now, I realize anon has taken the occasional swipe at the escapist, but I'd be very doubtful that it was over any actual hostility and not just the usual trolling. They hacked PBS too, doesn't make Reading Rainbow any less awesome. And full credit where its due from the SOPA blackout, but the ACTA's the same damn thing and that's the next fight. 6 internet censorship bills in 2 months. Think about that. And as it stands, even if all of them get shot down, they'll be ready with 30 more in a month until they get what they want. Unless, of course, people stop them.

Id never mug someone. Or steal. Or hit someone unprovoked. But all these things have been done to me. Accountability is the issue here. If the government does something we dont like. We dont vote for them. We riot. We rebel. If anon does something i dont like or attacks me, what do i do? They are beyond anyones power and that makes them dangerous. Anon takes swipes at whoever the fuck they want because no one can stop them. I refuse to swap one dictator for another. Id rather fight these bills in the streets than let another all powerfull group do it and surrender my freedoms to them rather than the government.

The internet is resilient enough to ignore a couple of skiddies with a DDOS program, I think we should be fine. Plus it doesn't really sound like their MO.

1. they really shouldnt've talked about how they were going to go about it- that gives the people who maintain those servers time to prepare
2. oh, you mean like how they took down facebook?

Theseus32:
The governments are trying to censor your free speech. They want to shut off communication. If they can't control the internet (spoiler: they can't) then they'll shut the damned thing off and anonymous is the ONLY thing keeping that happening.

*sigh*
Why would the governments, who rely HEAVILY (I cannot emphasize this enough) on the Internet to conduct trade and manage an economy, kill the Internet?

And how the fuck does Anonymous stop them? By annoying them?

From what I've seen, Anonymous fights for Anonymous. Nobody else. Their agenda changes on a whim since anyone can claim to be Anonymous.
One week they attack governments, the next they're back to hacking teenagers on facebook, or stealing information from some business.

I'm convinced that the only way to shut down the internet would to be a military act, like physically blowing up sattelites, and service providers.

Strain42:

ToTaL LoLiGe:
Anon's gone mad with 'power'

"Of course I have. You ever tried going mad without power? It's boring, no one listens to you." ~ Russ Cargill

In all seriousness, this is a horrible plan. All they would do is prove the oppositions point about what kind of people are on the internet.

To use an example that most gamers, can probably understand. If someone accused you of being a violent person because you played video games, which do you think would be the appropriate response:

1. A well crafted argument for your case that showcases a lack of violent behavior on your part or...

2. Calling them a nasty name and saying how they should die for even thinking such slanderous things.

...I'll give you a hint, it's not 2.

I love that movie soooooooo much...

Anon, just stop.

http://www.iheartchaos.com/post/16099273217/heres-your-sopa-emergency-ip-address-list
Use this. Any websites you want that aren't on there use the instructions at the bottom to find the IP address.
They'll get bored eventually.

How will we be able to post about this on the Escapist if the internet goes down!?!?

If they do this, its going to be legendary. Im not saying its a good thing, but it will help things be put in perspective for the world. How much we really rely on the intertoobz connected to our PC's.

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