Being Fat isn't Bad

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Razada:
Snip.

While I generally agree with you I think you have a misconstrued idea of what poverty actually looks like in an industrialized nation. Poverty does not mean homeless, it does not mean you live in a hovel, and it does not mean you have no access to some "luxuries" like computers. I come from a family who straddled the poverty line during my adolescence. I've gone months without reliable running water. I've gone summers having to sleep with severe bug infestations only for winter to come around and be cold because we couldn't afford to appropriately heat the whole house. My families food budget (5 people) for a month was $150-$250 (24-40 pounds per week) depending on that months income. We still had a computer, and we still had access to the internet. Even if we hadn't we still had access to libraries, and I had computer access at school.

Oh and I browsed the internet (and played games) during that whole time. Although admittedly I was not on the Escapist.

I think it's important to define what "fat" is, because different people can have vastly different perceptions. To be honest, I think the media may have distorted peoples' perception of what "healthy" is. Many supermodels are not healthy. (I'm talking about the ones that are thin to the point of near starvation, of course) Don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean you should go out and pack on as many pounds as possible. (Although don't be too ashamed of an extra 5 to 10 pounds or so, that's perfectly fine) I'm only 15, so my word may not count for much, but I was obese for quite some time in my earlier childhood. I was 160 pounds at the end of 5th grade, now I'm a high school freshman, 6ft. tall, and 140 pounds, so I've been on both sides of the spectrum. And while I can say that being thinner generally does feel better, I still feel fat, despite having dropped that much weight while simultaneously growing so much taller. So just be warned, losing a lot of weight might not totally relieve your insecurities. I actually remember that I was quite a bit happier when I was at a middle ground between fat and thin. So long story short, don't be afraid of a little extra weight, as long as it doesn't interfere with your health, or your self esteem. However, if your body fat percentage is so high that it interferes with your health, then you should probably consider a few lifestyle changes.

Phasmal:
I'm perfectly okay with people being fat. But I wish I didn't get so much shit for being skinny.

I have something up with my stomach, so I have trouble putting on weight. So I'm always getting the `Skinny Bitches` thing. I just don't put on weight easily. When I was in school people spread a rumour that I was bulemic, just because I would eat chips and not put on any weight.

I think its best to be healthy, but if you choose to make unhealthy choices, you shouldn't be judged so harshly for it. (I mean, if you are in danger of kicking the bucket very soon, you should probably get a talking-to by a doctor, but otherwise).

Take anti-depressants! Not only will it stop you giving a fuck about stupid rumors, you will also gain weight with no trouble at all!

OT: How I feel about people who are fat? Honestly? I dont think its nice to look at. It can be a little disgusting sometimes, depending on the person.

But luckily both I and the rest of the world are aware that my opinion doesnt really matter. Fat people are gonna be fat, punks are gonna be punks, whatever floats your boat I guess. Its not like anyone is forcing me to look.

EDIT: And by fat, and mean morbidly obese. Being a little chubby does not put you into the "fat" category IMO.

Oh gee I just want to say one more thing. Yes literally anyone can lose weight just by applying themselves but everyone can't put up with that. I am a bit more than chubby, 210 pounds and 6 foot 2 inches but I'm working out and cut out all the junk from my diet (looking at you pop). I have a friend though who is pretty much in the same boat. He is fat more because he leads a sedentary lifestyle rather than eating bad and he lives it because his interests revolve around things that happen to involve not having to move a lot.

Now he worked out with me for about 2 and a half months and was making some good progress when he told me "I can't keep doing this." I said that he was doing great and he should be more capable then ever. He told me "No, I mean doing it rather than something else. I have to put aside hours each day to purposely do something I hate as well as deprive myself of time and things I enjoy just so I don't have to be fat. And I have to do it for the rest of my life, [You know because you can't just lose the weight and stop you have to maintain yourself] I'm not okay with that." I more or less paraphrased what he said but you get the point.

So what I'm trying to say is that for some people it isn't worth it. I guess it's my hedonistic quality shining through but that sounds fair enough to me.

There isn't just fat and skinny, to be honest. There are many levels in between that people don't respect. Of course, there is "skinny as a stick" and there is "fat as a whale," but I'm sure you've seen these people. You know I am referring to the people who never eat compared to the people who never move. However, a lesson we all learn and have trouble accepting early in life is = are you happy with yourself, how you look, and who you are?

Be proud of who you are and what you are and how you look.
If not, then change it. People are truly capable of change.

No, it is not a bad thing being fat or skinny.
It is, however, a bad thing that we judge them as I have in this post.

MikeOfThunder:

bahumat42:
As a fat guy (21 st down from 24 last year). Id like to say i appreciate the effort in trying to make us feel accepted but also that any judgement people have on us is fair game. We are unhealthy (and often unattractively so) in my experience being reminded of this helps my resolve, because it gets me to strive to be better, and as i lose weight i gain confidence and i seem to be more succesfull with things.

Thats just my take though, i can understand others may not want to persecuted.

This guy knows where it's at. See bet your worked your arse off to drop that 3 stone (which is awesome btw) and feel a shed load better for it. I am pretty much in the same boat.

At 19, I was 19 stone. I hated all sports and ate anything i wanted. One summer, my friend and i started wieghtlifting at the gym. Now I'm 16 stone and my further aim is to become 14 stone. I look in the mirror now and i don't class myself as 'fat' anymore, I am more confident, stronger and look a thousand times better. I still have a fair way to go until i hit my goal, i accept, but it's actually pretty fun getting there! Nothing like breaking a 'Personal Best' in the gym, such a good feeling!

"No one said it was going to be easy." - Random guy shouted this at me whilst i struggled with a wieght few weeks ago. Brilliant.

I know that feeling brother - last night, I jogged something of a personal best - practically doubled the distance I jogged without stopping. Utterly rooted when I got home, but goddamn did I feel good!

Truly, being fat is bad.

I am not trying to be negative here but being fat simply isn't good for you . a few pounds overweight is understandable but much more then that isn't. but i guess if you are "proud" or "happy" for being fat that is your choice, but remember that when you get your heart attack or stroke from being fat you won't be too happy anymore.

Plus we live in a society that is designed for people who are skinnier, and that is the truth. so maybe if you are taking up two seats on the plane or if you have to get custom made clothes then I reccomend cutting a few pounds.

Keoul:
Anywho, Being fat ain't healthy, it just ain't.

Yup, that's my stance on the matter. And if you don't care much about your health then well, that says something about your mentality, and not something that's very good. There are a few excuses for being overweight, but the majority of fat people don't need defending from the OP. I mean good heavens does the OP sound patronizing.

Not to mention that it puts a strain on a nation's healthcare, but that's a difficult to discuss thing.

SciMal:

Caramel Frappe:

We as humans are meant to have fat on us no matter how much we want or will work out trying to gain muscle. Lipids are what I call fat-soluble vitamins for your body, you actually need them in order to function right besides your organs, other cells, ect. See, people think that burning all their fat will make their lives better or feel better about themselves. Yeah being fit is good but overdoing it or constantly burning off all your fat is just as unhealthy as gaining more lipids then usual.

Do some research before you post. There are actual fat-soluble vitamins; Vitamin D, Vitamin E, Vitamin K, etc. They are distinctly defined from water-soluble vitamins like Vitamin C, and easily identified because manufacturers of multivitamins place severe limits on them most of the time.

While your body DOES require a minimum amount of fat in order to function (this is in addition to that required for brain and oligodendrocytes/schwann cells), it's NOWHERE NEAR the amount overweight people have. How much fat your organs require at any given moment is very, very miniscule. That's why bodybuilders can get away with <15% bodyfat. If their organs required the fat, they would go into organ failure.

As long as your Calories In >= Calories Out, you're fine.

TL;DR - Being fat isn't really bad at all.. yes there are health risks but the primary issue is what people make of you. Just because you're fat or have a big stomach doesn't make it where you lose skills, talents or motives. If you love doing art, being fat doesn't make you suck at art, nor does it stop you from doing what you love. Also everyone finds love, just time is all it takes to find the person.

No, I'm going to say the primary issue is the enormous amount of health risk by being fat. Diabetes, hearth issues, asthma, apnea, joint issues - by being significantly overweight you are not merely increasing your chances of some sort of major health issue, it's practically a guarantee at some point.

Question: How do you feel about people who are fat? If you're fat, are you ashamed at all and if you are does this Thread help you understand that you're awesome no matter what? Not trying to be a goody goody here but I too felt fat at one point. It wasn't until recently that I got my spirits going and I wanted to share with you all about what it really means to be fat.. which doesn't affect you rather then shaping you a bit physically but that's it!! Being to skinny or to fat is bad so between the middle or a 45 degree is good to settle with! But up to you really.

My maximum weight was 250lbs at 6'5". I lost 60lbs. ten years ago (my lowest has been 180lbs but I hover in the 190's when not on a workout schedule) and have kept it off ever since. I find myself more attractive, my confidence and self-esteem have gone through the roof, my mood has improved and swings much less, I enjoy exercising, I don't physically feel bloated or "grumply" all the time, and I can conclusively say that losing the weight has been the best thing I have ever done for myself. Ever.

If you are happy and (Doctor-approved) healthy being fat, kudos to you. That is great. Most people are not healthy while significantly overweight, and I can include myself in that.

There we go. Someone in this thread who has a clue.

If you're fat, that's a bad thing. Not everyone is going to have a "skinny" or "ripped" physique, but being a lazy fatass is in no way healthy or natural.

I'd even go so far as to define 'letting yourself go' as a character flaw, since you clearly don't have the self-discipline to take care of yourself. If you're willingly obese and know it's bad for you, you care more about temporary pleasure than long-term well being, and don't care enough about what your early death will do to your loved ones to change your ways.

There's a reason that gluttony is considered to be one of the seven deadly sins in medieval catholic doctrine.

xXxJessicaxXx:

Kroxile:

xXxJessicaxXx:

The reason my weight goes up and down is that I suffer from depression and I don't get much exercise because I don't like going out. I kind of have already suffered enough in my life not sure why I should have to suffer 'penance' aswell.

Then its your own fault and you have no one else to blame but yourself and you must deal with the consequences until you either get so sick of it you decide to do something about it or decide to just keep feeling sorry for yourself until the day you die.

I know depression as a survivor of an attempted suicide but you know what? I got over it, changed what was unhealthy, and am a better person because of it. I absolutely refuse to believe that no one else is capable of doing the same.

If you refuse to change, then you deserve the suffering that comes with it. You must suffer this "penance" because you allowed yourself to get into the position you are in and must suffer the consequences of you actions... or inaction whatever the case may be.

But the position I'm in isn't my fault, at all. So why is it okay that people make me suffer for it?

I've wanted to use this video clip for a long time, and you saying it's "not your fault" is a perfect reason to:

Stop with the excuses.

Keoul:

Double A:

Keoul:
So i sees you like defending the minorities (fat people and bullies) interesting OP...

Anywho, Being fat ain't healthy, it just ain't. For me "fat" means you take up 2 seats and you can't see your toes anyone under that category isn't fat in my opinion. I recall someone comparing smoking to being fat. Both parties are knowingly making their lives harder but keep on doing it for personal pleasure.

We could always blame the media for everything but really it's the people's fault for even falling for it, it's been several years now since people have been saying how it's all fake and computer generated yet girls/guys are still trying to get that supermodel look. Get these kids educated -.-

You're thinking of obese. I don't care what you think, I am fat. This is a scientific fact. I don't take up 2 seats and I can see my toes, but that doesn't automatically not make me fat, especially when there are real definitions for this kind of thing.

Don't blame me for your low self-esteem, it's normal to be a little tubby and I wouldn't exactly call them fat, but hey I shant force my opinions on you, if you think you're fat and proud of it then good for you

I'm not blaming anyone for low self-esteem, I don't even think I have it. Or I have none. Whichever one lets me crack more jokes about myself.

I'm just sayin there's a fine line between chubby and obese, and it's called "fat."

I'm also not proud of being fat. It's kinda annoying some times, but for the most part I'm apathetic about it.

Daystar Clarion:
Being fat doesn't make someone less of a person, it makes them more of a person.

Oh snap!

This is what I tell people, but they never get the joke...

OT: Yes too much fat is obviously bad for anyone, I should know since I am overweight, but the kind of fat people I don't really understand are the people who are so overweight that they eventually have to use mobility scooters to get around. Surely they would have seen it coming but they still buy loads of chocolate/biscuits/crisps etc.

Not wanting to get on my high horse here (it might collapse with me on it), but I have been going out for hour long walks every day for nearly a year now, and cutting down on crap food more and more, and it definitely makes a difference. I've been told that my height and build make me look intimidating, which isn't necessarily a good thing; apart from when I'm covering the security guards lunch hour...

Navvan:

Razada:
Snip.

While I generally agree with you I think you have a misconstrued idea of what poverty actually looks like in an industrialized nation. Poverty does not mean homeless, it does not mean you live in a hovel, and it does not mean you have no access to some "luxuries" like computers. I come from a family who straddled the poverty line during my adolescence. I've gone months without reliable running water. I've gone summers having to sleep with severe bug infestations only for winter to come around and be cold because we couldn't afford to appropriately heat the whole house. My families food budget (5 people) for a month was $150-$250 (24-40 pounds per week) depending on that months income. We still had a computer, and we still had access to the internet. Even if we hadn't we still had access to libraries, and I had computer access at school.

Oh and I browsed the internet (and played games) during that whole time. Although admittedly I was not on the Escapist.

You make assumptions. Everyone does. However...

I know what poverty looks like, poverty made me lose weight rapidly and made me very, very sick. I lived on a sofa for roughly 6 months, with a budget of roughly the same with which I tried to keep three people sustained. We could not afford heating. That winter it was minus 8 outside, ice formed on the inside of our windows. I know what it is like to be uncertain what you are going to eat and when, I know what it is like to go to sleep cold and hungry and wake up hungry and sick.

Weight gain and poverty is a new creation, caused by lifestyle choices. My sympathy only goes so far, a firm understanding of sociology and economics tempers my view. Poverty is a blight upon the west, a blight easily defeated (I am a socialist) but weight gain as a result of poverty is a unique creation of the capitalist system (Things like Mac Donalds are to blame).

My assumption is rather accurate though. If a family has enough to cover the internet and other essentials they should be able to eat healthily, it is through a lack of education and a poor situation that they do not. During those 6 months we kept up with the things we saw to be essential, our escapism (Read: TV, although we did not have a license so we could not actually watch anything but movies illegally downloaded at the local library, and an XBOX with a mixture of second hand and "Five finger discount" games). Although I guess that is much more typical poverty.

Also, whilst growing up, I was in a situation similar to yours. Family of five living on one rather poor income. Massive amounts of debt, Heh, a family strait out of a TV show that is critical of the working class (Alcoholic chain smoking unemployed father, depressed mother at her wits end) although we ate... healthily. It got better when we got out of the situation, to be sure.

Although I do sympathise with the position you have been in and anyone who has suffered from a lack of basic essentials (Hot water, food, heating during the winter, clean water (Our pipes burst eventually) medicine) I still firmly believe that obesity caused by poverty is... Almost unexplainable.

Although I did state that poverty is a bit of an excuse for weight gain. And you must admit, being in a desperate situation and still having access to computers and the internet is rare. We had one computer, which my mother used for work, we had no internet access (Although this was... 13 years ago), no mobile phones, yeah.

My point still rests though. Being overweight to the point where it damages your health is a lifestyle choice, an irresponsible one that causes contrary health effects, and the excuses for the state of affairs are few and far between. Sorry if I seem like an asshole. I just think that being overweight to the point where it damages your health is... Almost inexcusable.

Finally, and in closing, my ideals are formed out of a weird mixture of socialism, utilitarianism and humanism. I do not blame people for the lifestyles they lead. I blame society. But the people? I pity them and I wish things were another way.

Oh, and I am a smoker, so my entire "Its bad for you" twist on what I am saying is utterly hypocritical. But all of us are hypocrits, we all have our flaws. Thing is, I lost the weight and I am using nicotine replacement therapies and will be switching to E cigs before I get to Uni (No contrary health effects) so although I do have my vice(s), I try and do something about them. I have a duty to myself, my family and to the entire fucking world not to drain resources more than I should (In order for equality to be achieved, society must strive to be healthy. If society strives to be healthy, fewer people drain the resources of the healthcare professions and more can be reached, if more are reached society will become healthier. Its simple enough in my eyes)

I am ranting. It is just one of those nights when my brain is working.

Phasmal:
I'm perfectly okay with people being fat. But I wish I didn't get so much shit for being skinny.

I have something up with my stomach, so I have trouble putting on weight. So I'm always getting the `Skinny Bitches` thing. I just don't put on weight easily. When I was in school people spread a rumour that I was bulemic, just because I would eat chips and not put on any weight.

I think its best to be healthy, but if you choose to make unhealthy choices, you shouldn't be judged so harshly for it. (I mean, if you are in danger of kicking the bucket very soon, you should probably get a talking-to by a doctor, but otherwise).

are you me? this happened to me EVERYWHERE I went... "oh you're so skinny, what's your secret? You throw up right?" or (and from a school councillor no less) "You know, throwing up isn't the best way to stay skinny 'insert name here'" and I was all.... uhhh no I just have a really fast metabolism, duh....

Anyway, what I mean is, I understand where you're coming from <3

Here's an idea guys. Why don't we focus on OUR lives and OUR business without having to act all morally superior? Be you fat, skinny or otherwise, we're all human and deserve respect. The world would be a lot better if a lot of you folks on here spent more time trying to make yourselves into better people as opposed to focusing how other people are worse than you.

Being fat is detrimental to your health. How is that not bad? I'm pretty sure peoples opinions of you don't matter when you're having a heart attack in your 30's because your body cant sustain looking like a animated wad of marshmellows.

Being a tubby also causes negative mental issues, unsurprisingly:
http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/0002335/63/

As a former blubberball, I think the OP is crap. Of course you can achieve stuff while being fat(Except when you're too fat, then the only thing you can achieve is putting down the twinkie and hitting a gym), but you're still ruining your body.

Well. Being fat is bad. It's unhealthy. There's that much. Obviously if you're the size of a Russian weapons factory, the unhealthy is emboldened.

But for the sake of the argument, let's say that the person in question is noticeably overweight.

You are less fit physically, your sex drive is lower, your fertility is lower, you can develop some nasty diseases, and you're a lot less likely to find a partner, and (If you're in Britain anyway) you will get all of your diabetes medicine and other treatments without having to pay a single penny. Sounds great right? No matter how screwed an overweight individual gets, he can get it all fixed for free! Not so...

Now this may sound a bit harsh, but bare with me. If you cut the cakes and got fit, the NHS wouldn't have to spend thousands of pounds annually on a single overweight individual for what is commonly and inescapably a lifestyle choice. I know there are some overweight people that literally can't help it, but just exclude them for a moment, because that really isn't the majority. If people got up, and got fit, the NHS would be fine. Overweight people in the UK, mostly Scotland are THE main reason the NHS in this country is under so much financial strain. And as the NHS is a national service, that brings the country down as well, as well as it's overseas assets. I'm not saying that the NHS is Britain's only problem, it isn't. But it's definitely the bigger one of the pile. And it can be easily fixed by a simple lifestyle change.

Razada:

Navvan:

Razada:
Snip.

While I generally agree with you I think you have a misconstrued idea of what poverty actually looks like in an industrialized nation. Poverty does not mean homeless, it does not mean you live in a hovel, and it does not mean you have no access to some "luxuries" like computers. I come from a family who straddled the poverty line during my adolescence. I've gone months without reliable running water. I've gone summers having to sleep with severe bug infestations only for winter to come around and be cold because we couldn't afford to appropriately heat the whole house. My families food budget (5 people) for a month was $150-$250 (24-40 pounds per week) depending on that months income. We still had a computer, and we still had access to the internet. Even if we hadn't we still had access to libraries, and I had computer access at school.

Oh and I browsed the internet (and played games) during that whole time. Although admittedly I was not on the Escapist.

My assumption is rather accurate though. If a family has enough to cover the internet and other essentials they should be able to eat healthily, it is through a lack of education and a poor situation that they do not.

Although I did state that poverty is a bit of an excuse for weight gain. And you must admit, being in a desperate situation and still having access to computers and the internet is rare. We had one computer, which my mother used for work, we had no internet access (Although this was... 13 years ago), no mobile phones, yeah.

Oh I wasn't disagreeing with any of the other content of your post, like I said I pretty much agreed with everything you said. I particularity agree with the idea that the poverty -> overweight is more of an issue with education than money. All I was stating is that it is possible that somebody who lives in a poverty situation can have access to computers/internet and thus be viewing this forum. I don't know how rare that is, but I would say its becoming more and more common as the availability of computers/internet increases along with there role in society. Even if not at home I know libraries and school served as my connection points until we got one at home.

Dr Snakeman:
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Again I don't think you understand depression and anxiety, if I wasn't mentally ill I'd agree with you. But it isn't something I can just ignore or 'get over'.

The reasons why I'm ill are certainly not my fault...

Caramel Frappe:
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I'm honestly incredibly confused by this post. You're basically saying "go on, be fat! It's awesome!" in quite possibly the most condescending manner I've ever had the misfortune to be exposed to. What's the actual point?

It's a proven fact that fat people are vastly less healthy than people with a more normal weight. The fact of the matter is, regardless of how you want to perceive it, [b]being fat is a very bad thing[/i]. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. That's just the way it is.

Speaking as someone who's just this side of obese, I can safely say that being fat is not a good thing. Neither is it something that anyone with half a brain lets dictate how they feel about themselves.

Long story short, your attempt at compassion came across as little more than an incredibly stupid bit of misplaced condescension and is pretty much irrelevant to everything, ever.

TL;DR but your avatar is SO FRIGGIN ADORABLE

but seriously, obesity shortens your lifespan, staying healthy lengthens it. martin luther king wasn't that fat at all really, and george lucas is a REEEEEALLY bad example. he's like a sloth to me, seriously, look at him behind the scenes for episodes 1, 2, and 3, he just looks at all the art work these poor younger artists worked on (and i say poor because their career ended there for the most part, thank you lucas) and he just lazily looks at it and goes "ok, throw this one in the movie".

but if you're overweight, make a late new years resolution, loosing those extra pounds ain't so much work, that's what i'm doing.

EDIT: WHERE IS SOURCE FOR YOUR AVATAR OMG

xXxJessicaxXx:

Dr Snakeman:
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Again I don't think you understand depression and anxiety, if I wasn't mentally ill I'd agree with you. But it isn't something I can just ignore or 'get over'.

The reasons why I'm ill are certainly not my fault...

Never said your illness was your fault. And I'm not discounting the effect depression can have on a person's psyche.

But you don't just get to use the fact that you have a condition as an excuse to be less than your best. Yeah, there's something wrong with you. The same could be said for a lot of people, including the guy in that video. That doesn't stop him from being a total badass.

You can walk. You have no excuses.

I have to say I'm torn on this issue.

On the one hand, if you're hefty (I dunno, 250-350 lbs), and you're able to do all that you want to do and all that you need to do, I don't think obsessing over getting your weight down is necessary or healthy. If you're winded after walking up a couple flights of stairs, but you can do it and you're okay with that? Who cares. We're not all required to be super models.

We're ALSO not required to live as long as we possibly can. If someone told me I had to eat at Whole Foods for the rest of my life and avoid sweets, caffeine, and fast food like the plague because I had a moral imperative to extend my life, I would laugh in their face. I'm okay with dying at 95 if it'll let me have some doughnuts in the meantime, and if your extra pounds are shaving a few years off your lifespan that's your business as well... enjoy yourself a bit, and don't beat yourself up.

However, there is clearly a level of fat that's just too much. If your weight is keeping you from doing things you need to do, if you couldn't manage a couple flights of stairs to save your life... then yeah, your weight is an issue. Then again, I have a feeling that most of these people (I'm talking your 600 lbs and up) either have medical problems that give them trouble or don't care what I say. :-P

All told, I'd approach fat the same way I'd approach the amount of money I'd spend on a computer monitor... I'm not going to deal with a tiny monitor just because it saves me money, but I'm not going to replace one of my walls with it either. There's a point... a pretty wide range, really... where the benefits of splurging on those extra pixels outweigh the cost, and as long as I'm somewhere in there I'm not gonna lose sleep over it.

GrimTuesday:
Well that was patronizing as fuck.

That's pretty much the feeling I got from reading the post. Seems like the kind of crap one would expect from a particularly annoying middle school assembly on tolerance. And I'm not even fat!

I'm fat, not excessively so but I am a little chubby. Hasn't stopped me from being fairly strong and athletic. I find the idea of being fit but still having a little fat isn't a big deal.

Besides prejudice against fat people is kind of stupid. I don't mind fat jokes as I make them myself but if someone wants to eat whatever they want whenever they want then let them do so. America is supposed to be a free country isn't it?

manic_depressive13:
I do not like fat people. It's bad enough that people consume meat, let alone people that overconsume it enough to get to that stage. I console myself with the thought that at least they will probably die sooner.

So just because you disagree with eating meat.... fat people deserve death? Fun Fact: The human Teeth are designed for consumption of flesh, so by not eating meat, you are spitting in the face of evolution.

C2Ultima:
You know what kind of fat people I can't stand? People who are fat (really fat I mean, not just a couple pounds overweight) and proud of it. Given the fact that there are undernourished people struggling to get anything to eat, it mystifies me how anyone can be proud of the fact that they eat too much.

The world produces more than enough food to feed us all. Global starvation has a LOT more to do with global politics (including some horribly corrupt third world dictators), the cost of transporting food to people who can't pay as well as those in wealthier countries, the higher profit margin on exotic foods like nuts and fruits than on food staples like rice, etc than it does with the actual amount of resources we have on this planet.

Hell, large quantities of the relief food that is sent out to these places rots on the docks because of politics, because someone stands to gain from the food not getting through in a timely manner.

I guess what I'm saying is that there is no way the food in your grocery store is going to feed the starving kids in China, regardless of how little of it you buy and eat. Weighing three hundred pounds does not mean that you snatched the food out of some poor kid's mouth and killed him... the sad truth is that it was never gonna get to him anyway.

RagTagBand:
I'm not even sure where to begin with this thread.

None of your post made sense from an "reasoned argument" standpoint, it is infested with straw men, terrible logic, emotional manipulation, idle speculation and just copious amounts of crap. Colour me unsurprised you're a member of the "My Little Pony" crowd, It would take a brony to spout a childishly naive, over-simplified, wishy-washy "Nothing is bad, everything is good" philosophy.

Being fat is bad. It is physically detrimental to your health, it is aesthetically gross and it goes some way to saying something about the character of the fat person - They're either lazy, lack self-control, lack self-respect or have swallowed the same crap as the OP where they've accepted something that is demonstrably bad as being perfectly fine. Hell I've seen that on this website where a girl wouldn't go out with a guy because she didn't find him physically attractive and the fat guy in question felt entitled to HER changing her attitude, rather than him getting in shape.

And I'm not talking about "a little thicker around the edges" here, nor am I talking about "Built" people (there is quite a large difference between someone whose weight is 50% muscle and 5% muscle), Lets get one thing straight before I get jumped for "thinking everyone should be size zero", Nor am I saying that fat people "aren't people" or anything like that.

I don't think it's wrong to "Make pariahs" out of people who are fat for the same reason that I don't think it's wrong to make pariahs out of people who don't wash - There are only negatives for being in that state, there are only positives for not being in that state. Fuck, Not washing and being unhealthy/overweight are pretty god-damn comparable the more I think about it.

There are instances of those that possess medical issues which legitimately prevent or at least severely hinder them from being a reasonable weight, so in that regard I disagree that making a pariah out of the overweight is particularly justified, as it encourages stereotypes/heavy generalizations and marginalizes those who don't really deserve a negative label.

Guardian of Nekops:

C2Ultima:
You know what kind of fat people I can't stand? People who are fat (really fat I mean, not just a couple pounds overweight) and proud of it. Given the fact that there are undernourished people struggling to get anything to eat, it mystifies me how anyone can be proud of the fact that they eat too much.

The world produces more than enough food to feed us all. Global starvation has a LOT more to do with global politics (including some horribly corrupt third world dictators), the cost of transporting food to people who can't pay as well as those in wealthier countries, the higher profit margin on exotic foods like nuts and fruits than on food staples like rice, etc than it does with the actual amount of resources we have on this planet.

Hell, large quantities of the relief food that is sent out to these places rots on the docks because of politics, because someone stands to gain from the food not getting through in a timely manner.

I guess what I'm saying is that there is no way the food in your grocery store is going to feed the starving kids in China, regardless of how little of it you buy and eat. Weighing three hundred pounds does not mean that you snatched the food out of some poor kid's mouth and killed him... the sad truth is that it was never gonna get to him anyway.

You make a fair point, but even if you factor out anyone who doesn't have enough to eat, I still don't see the logic of being proud of the fact that you consume too much.

Jzolr0708:
So just because you disagree with eating meat.... fat people deserve death? Fun Fact: The human Teeth are designed for consumption of flesh, so by not eating meat, you are spitting in the face of evolution.

Bingo.

We've been spitting in the face of evolution for a long time now, what with inventing glasses and other various things that allow people with disabilities to live normal lives. In fact, I'm happy to do even kinkier things with evolution. I think I'll make it kiss my ass.

manic_depressive13:

Jzolr0708:
So just because you disagree with eating meat.... fat people deserve death? Fun Fact: The human Teeth are designed for consumption of flesh, so by not eating meat, you are spitting in the face of evolution.

Bingo.

We've been spitting in the face of evolution for a long time now, what with inventing glasses and other various things that allow people with disabilities to live normal lives. In fact, I'm happy to do even kinkier things with evolution. I think I'll make it kiss my ass.

That cat in your avatar looks absolutely delicious.

axlryder:
That cat in your avatar looks absolutely delicious.

Um, thanks? I'm sure it thinks the same of you.

There's a huge difference between being overwieght and overfat. Overfat is unhealthy. Overweight we see on a daily basis. My dad is overweight, but not overfat. The weird homeless dude who lives out of his car and disappeared from a nearby starbucks, on the other hand, is overfat.

It really isn't that hard to stay in shape. If the guys at Epic Meal Time can stay healthy despite eating tens of thousands of calories every few days, then I'm sure someone else can find the time to go for a short walk or take the stairs instead of the escalator and have water instead of Coke for lunch.

NEXT UPON OBVIOUS THEATRE: Marshmallows Are Sticky.

But in all seriousness I don't really see the point of a thread that says fat people are people to, although it could stand to be a motivator or a raise in self-esteem for those who don't feel like they are worth anything.

manic_depressive13:

axlryder:
That cat in your avatar looks absolutely delicious.

Um, thanks? I'm sure it thinks the same of you.

Oh good, I like food with mutual feelings.

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