What are "African-Americans" called in your country?

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One advantage of mass immigration in Britain, is Daily Mail readers are now terribly confused now they can't just glance at skin colour to decide who to hate :)

'Why oh why can't all immigrants be dark skinned, they're deliberately being difficult!'

Sometimes makes me wish for the seas to dry up, so people would realise we're all living on the same damn bit of land. Of course, they'd still judge people based on race, colour, religion, or class. I swear in the UK class is a bigger divider than race now.

Negers.

It's not derogatory.

Living in American, they're clearly "Black people", if/when they need a descriptor. Anything else is just stupid.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

Kendarik:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Germany.
Nigger.
Wish I was kidding.

Is that considered a polite term in Germany, or just one that is used a lot?

Well, you have nigger in the offensive sense which is used by the majority of young people and "neger" which is used by the older generation. That last one used to be offensive but the old folks round here still use the word with no ill intended.

I honestly thought that Germany had kinda become more mature in matters like that than most places.

OT: Black. Though honestly, even saying black seems a little uncomfortable to me. It's along the same lines as me calling a Chinese person yellow.

Dominican Republic

We call them negro(black)if their skin is really black or people, because the majority of people in this country are black.

Funny thing to people that have white skin or are really light skinned are call rubio(blond).

PS. negro in this country is not offensive in any way.

Негры. Same for real africans. There are too few of them here, so there's usually no one in the hearing range to get offended when you say it.

Never liked the term "African American" its retarded. If your black and born in America, then your American. If you were born in Africa and moved to America, then you are an African that lives in America.

Why don't Americans call themselves English - Americans? Half these so called "African Americans" wouldn't even know where Africa is on the map let alone ever visit there or have any knowledge of the culture. Its just there way of separating themselves from the rest of the people. If you want to get technical, only the Indians can be called Americans.

Sorry about that.....always annoyed me. :-)

We call them black or coloured or half-cast (not sure if that term is used anymore, as a kid it was used to describe a mixed race person)

Lat time I checked, Black people in Britain weren't generally considered African-Americans. Anyway, we just call them black, hence why I just refered to black people in Britain as well, that.

British people. From what I've seen, Britain doesn't have a massive trouble with racism against African people (though it is still there, trust me), it seems our racism is focused against Eastern Europeans and Asians (particularly Indians, Bangladeshis and people from around that area). Maybe that's just my part of Scotland though.

UK.

People. Or, if you have to specify, black.

"Fekete" which means black.
Or "néger", which means person of negroid descent. We do have the word "n*gger", but it's considered a racial slur and you're not gonna hear it used. The two sound pretty similar to each other, but calling someone a "néger" is a-ok with everybody because it's not racist.

Well, in my country, I think the most PC phrase is, after being translated into English, "black-skinned".

I am going with black. (Canadian here)
I even have a friend who everyone calls Black Dave. I live in a very Caucasian neighbourhood and there are very few blacks. even though no one else knew a person named David that went by Dave, he was still black Dave. oddly enough it was a term he coined not everyone else.

Norway: Norwegians. Or "people" if we have to use that.
"Black" if we are describing their skin.

Black.

Simple as. No fuss. No offence.

A Raging Emo:

thylasos:

A Raging Emo:
Actually, in the UK, we just call them "People".

Or "of Afro-Carribean descent", on the census form.

Yeah, but we also get thousands of people putting "Jedi" as their religion each year.

Last year there were 3 Sith.

I'm from a small eastern European country.

Our classic term is "zamorci" which means "people from beyond the sea" which also includes Arabs, Indians, Australian Aboriginals and strangely Polinesians. It does not however include Asians, Inuits or Native Americans.

In recent decades we tend to use "črnci" which just means "black people".

The only insult that is very rarely used is "zumba".

Just 'Black people', really.

I realized while reading this thread that I have never actually known a black person beyond just their name. I'm actually far more familiar with several people of various Asian descent (one of whom I number among my best friends, even).

Out of curiosity I decided to check the Canadian census to see if this was statistically likely, and lo and behold, according to the newest data available to Wikipedia (2006) only about 2.5% of the population is black, compared to 11.92% asian.

So... yeah. I don't have much need to call black people anything most of the time.

UK.
I refer to them as people.
To identify someone as black though, like if you're describing someone, then it's just 'black', simply enough.

There are, by definition, no african-americans in my country because those would actually be "afro-germans" or at least "afro-american-germans". But if you mean black people we call them... just black people, pretty much. Sometimes "coloured people" too.

In my country (the UK/Scotland), we call African-Americans... African-Americans... har har har that really wasn't funny -_- Sorry, that was actually a really bad joke.

On a more serious note... I genuinely don't know; there are only something like 10 non-white, non-Asian people in the region I live in (out of about 110,000 people), so they don't exactly make a notable group. I hear "Afro-British" and "Afro-Caribbean" used a bit, but really, most people I know call people of African descent black.

Tuesday Night Fever:

Frizzle:

Now I'm curious. If you see a group of 10 dogs, and you're trying to point one out, what's the first attribute you go to when trying to describe it?

Dogs, as far as I'm aware, don't have a long history of race-related discrimination, hatred, and violence tied very closely to the idea of making it socially acceptable to single them out and make them 'different' by using words in this way.

They actually do have a history of that, hence why a lot of people with bigger dogs like German Shepherds have trouble finding apartments and communities that will accept their animal. Also, once domesticated, dogs were bread for the very specific purpose of violence, fear mongering, and hatred, among other more useful jobs like herding animals.

But my point is that when you call someone black, or brown, or white, you're just making it easier for the person you're describing them to, to understand. Describing someone by their skin tone is in no way racist. If you are making sweeping generalizations about that person because of the color of their skin, then yeah that's racist.

We live in a world of vivid and varying color. When someone asks you which car is yours in the parking lot, you don't say "that automobile over there," you say "the black Maserati."
Same idea with people or anything else you're describing: "do you see that human being over there?" is not nearly as helpful as "You see that white/black/brown guy over there?"

Trying to be politically correct only attempts to make people special and different. We are all the same in one giant sweeping generalized group of destructive and apathetic human beings :)

People. Dunno about you guys... but...

Sweden.

immigrant(ivandrare) (mostly used for Muslim and eastern European because they are the majority of the obvious immigrants to Sweden). And could actual be seen as offensive by some people.

people also use coloured(färgad) or dark skinned(mörkhyad) or black(svart) but that is also used mostly when describing someone.

Nigger (Neger) is generally considered offensive when used by someone white but not when used by someone black or some other immigrant. I have heard two muslim kids calling each other nigger.

And the PK Police have also given us gems like "second generation immigrant"(andra generationens invandrare) and "person of immigrant ancestry"(person med invandrarbakgrund). Both of this is true of all of the Swedish royal house except the crown princess's husband and their daughter.

"person of immigrant background"(person med invandrarbakgrund) is probably the phrase you will find in newspapers and official documents. It is considered the least offensive and the most ridiculous.

Frizzle:

They actually do have a history of that, hence why a lot of people with bigger dogs like German Shepherds have trouble finding apartments and communities that will accept their animal. Also, once domesticated, dogs were bread for the very specific purpose of violence, fear mongering, and hatred, among other more useful jobs like herding animals.

But my point is that when you call someone black, or brown, or white, you're just making it easier for the person you're describing them to, to understand. Describing someone by their skin tone is in no way racist. If you are making sweeping generalizations about that person because of the color of their skin, then yeah that's racist.

We live in a world of vivid and varying color. When someone asks you which car is yours in the parking lot, you don't say "that automobile over there," you say "the black Maserati."
Same idea with people or anything else you're describing: "do you see that human being over there?" is not nearly as helpful as "You see that white/black/brown guy over there?"

Trying to be politically correct only attempts to make people special and different. We are all the same in one giant sweeping generalized group of destructive and apathetic human beings :)

You completely missed my point. If I tell you to look at that, say, German Shepherd to continue your own example - is that German Shepherd going to care that I'm calling it a German Shepherd? Is it going to care that I call it a dog? Is it going to care if I call it a poodle, or any other type of dog? No. It's not going to care. Because the dog itself has no true understanding of English beyond getting the gist of what I'm feeling from the way I put inflection on my words... but also because there was never a time when German Shepherds were discriminated against by other dogs for no reason other than them being German Shepherds.

It's very, very easy to project human feelings and emotions and history onto things that aren't humans, but that doesn't mean that the analogy always holds up. In fact it typically doesn't.

As for ease of understanding, if I'm looking at a group of people and I'm trying to point one out to you, and I tell you that it's 'the guy with the hat' when he's the only guy in the group with a hat, are you honestly going to tell me you have no idea who I'm talking about? Or if he's not the only one in the group with a hat, if I point out something else distinctive like his blue jacket, or his gloves, or whatever... are you honestly going to tell me that you still have no idea what I'm talking about? Are you telling me that I have to point out race or else you have no idea who I'm referring to? Because I very much doubt it.

Like it or not, your black Maserati isn't going to feel bad or be offended if it's made to look different than everyone else for something it has no control over. Because it's not a human, or even alive at all... it's a thing. It doesn't have thoughts or feelings. Once again, very easy to project human emotion onto objects that aren't human, and once again, it doesn't translate at all.

MetalDooley:
Pretty sure black people in Ireland are just called "black people"

That's entirely correct, some ignorant f*cks call them all Nigerians, and some members of the older generations refer to them as darkies. But on average, black is considered acceptable. We have a history of being slaves as opposed to owning them, so most of us (except the incredibly moronic) feel any "white guilt".

I wonder what the PC term for white people in Africa is.

European-African?

I'm in the US so 'African-American' although I usually use 'black' and 'white' because most black people only have ancestry in Africa aren't directly from there so unless people call me a 'German-irish-American' instead of white I'll respond in kind.

Tuesday Night Fever:

Frizzle:

They actually do have a history of that, hence why a lot of people with bigger dogs like German Shepherds have trouble finding apartments and communities that will accept their animal. Also, once domesticated, dogs were bread for the very specific purpose of violence, fear mongering, and hatred, among other more useful jobs like herding animals.

But my point is that when you call someone black, or brown, or white, you're just making it easier for the person you're describing them to, to understand. Describing someone by their skin tone is in no way racist. If you are making sweeping generalizations about that person because of the color of their skin, then yeah that's racist.

We live in a world of vivid and varying color. When someone asks you which car is yours in the parking lot, you don't say "that automobile over there," you say "the black Maserati."
Same idea with people or anything else you're describing: "do you see that human being over there?" is not nearly as helpful as "You see that white/black/brown guy over there?"

Trying to be politically correct only attempts to make people special and different. We are all the same in one giant sweeping generalized group of destructive and apathetic human beings :)

You completely missed my point. If I tell you to look at that, say, German Shepherd to continue your own example - is that German Shepherd going to care that I'm calling it a German Shepherd? Is it going to care that I call it a dog? Is it going to care if I call it a poodle, or any other type of dog? No. It's not going to care. Because the dog itself has no true understanding of English beyond getting the gist of what I'm feeling from the way I put inflection on my words... but also because there was never a time when German Shepherds were discriminated against by other dogs for no reason other than them being German Shepherds.

It's very, very easy to project human feelings and emotions and history onto things that aren't humans, but that doesn't mean that the analogy always holds up. In fact it typically doesn't.

As for ease of understanding, if I'm looking at a group of people and I'm trying to point one out to you, and I tell you that it's 'the guy with the hat' when he's the only guy in the group with a hat, are you honestly going to tell me you have no idea who I'm talking about? Or if he's not the only one in the group with a hat, if I point out something else distinctive like his blue jacket, or his gloves, or whatever... are you honestly going to tell me that you still have no idea what I'm talking about? Are you telling me that I have to point out race or else you have no idea who I'm referring to? Because I very much doubt it.

Like it or not, your black Maserati isn't going to feel bad or be offended if it's made to look different than everyone else for something it has no control over. Because it's not a human, or even alive at all... it's a thing. It doesn't have thoughts or feelings. Once again, very easy to project human emotion onto objects that aren't human, and once again, it doesn't translate at all.

Firstly, dogs don't think like us at all. They can reason, but they have no concept of half the crap our society tells us, so I'm not comparing what they understand from us. I was refuting your claim that dogs did not have a stigma of hatred and or fear.

I'm not projecting human emotions onto non-human things, I'm trying to get you to understand that a describing the color of someone is no big deal, cuz it's a color. It's the same as if you used hair color. Yeah if there was 1 guy with a hat, and you were trying to point him out, then obviously that would be the best answer. But sometimes it's cleaner to say skin tone than to check and make sure no one else has that same shirt color on, or a jacket, or the same patterned kilt.

I have not once in my entire life ever met a black person that was offended because he was called black. I've been around for almost 3 decades, and even lived in Zambia for a year. If you're offended by the color of your skin, then there's a bigger issue with your self esteem. I have red hair, yet I don't get offended when people call me 'ginger' or redheaded. Don't try and put a deeper meaning into color that isn't there. Like I said before: If you think of someone differently because their skin is different than yours, then thats something wrong with you and not them.

Also, the whole African-American thing is crap. If you were born in an African country (because Africa is NOT a country as people sometimes forget) and you move to America, then you can be whereveryoucamefrom-American if you'd like. Maybe it would help explain your accent and keep people from thinking you were Australian or British, instead of South African.

Saladfork:
I wonder what the PC term for white people in Africa is.

European-African?

I know in at least 2 countries it's "muzungu"
it basically means white foreigner. If he/she is a native, then they just call them white.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Germany.
Nigger.
Wish I was kidding.

thank goodness you are. because it's "Farbiger" ("coloured") in german as it's most neutral form. "Nigger" is indeed FUCKING offensive here.

JoesshittyOs:
I honestly thought that Germany had kinda become more mature in matters like that than most places.

Considering all our stereotypes (which are pretty true themselves) there's no way this could be the case.

This seems like kinda a weird thread premise... the sort of thing a bunch of people get to vicariously enjoy dropping a few racial epithets that, "their neighbors say", for the collective sniggers of the community.

"Anyways, round' these parts, we call em honkies. I kinda think it's something to do with us being deeply angry, but mostly confused."

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For serious though, what's the discussion value? Do people say rascist things near you? If you've said no, you either live in an extremely sanitized place, or just aren't listening closely. Beyond that it's more of a 'taste of the local flavor'.... Like I said... weird.

octafish:

(Aboriginal is a adjective but often gets misused down here as a noun, the the proper term would be Aboriginal Australian or Aborigine. Aborigine just means original inhabitant, it isn't exclusive to Indigenous Australians, the Blackfoot or Sioux for example would be Aboriginal North Americans.)

its not any country of English origin doesn't have a history of miss using/misunderstanding native words.
It just becomes proper use after a while(see kangaroo for a good example).

The ones I know are called Steve, David and Kirsty, if that counts?

Tuesday Night Fever:

Frizzle:

They actually do have a history of that, hence why a lot of people with bigger dogs like German Shepherds have trouble finding apartments and communities that will accept their animal. Also, once domesticated, dogs were bread for the very specific purpose of violence, fear mongering, and hatred, among other more useful jobs like herding animals.

But my point is that when you call someone black, or brown, or white, you're just making it easier for the person you're describing them to, to understand. Describing someone by their skin tone is in no way racist. If you are making sweeping generalizations about that person because of the color of their skin, then yeah that's racist.

We live in a world of vivid and varying color. When someone asks you which car is yours in the parking lot, you don't say "that automobile over there," you say "the black Maserati."
Same idea with people or anything else you're describing: "do you see that human being over there?" is not nearly as helpful as "You see that white/black/brown guy over there?"

Trying to be politically correct only attempts to make people special and different. We are all the same in one giant sweeping generalized group of destructive and apathetic human beings :)

You completely missed my point. If I tell you to look at that, say, German Shepherd to continue your own example - is that German Shepherd going to care that I'm calling it a German Shepherd? Is it going to care that I call it a dog? Is it going to care if I call it a poodle, or any other type of dog? No. It's not going to care. Because the dog itself has no true understanding of English beyond getting the gist of what I'm feeling from the way I put inflection on my words... but also because there was never a time when German Shepherds were discriminated against by other dogs for no reason other than them being German Shepherds.

It's very, very easy to project human feelings and emotions and history onto things that aren't humans, but that doesn't mean that the analogy always holds up. In fact it typically doesn't.

As for ease of understanding, if I'm looking at a group of people and I'm trying to point one out to you, and I tell you that it's 'the guy with the hat' when he's the only guy in the group with a hat, are you honestly going to tell me you have no idea who I'm talking about? Or if he's not the only one in the group with a hat, if I point out something else distinctive like his blue jacket, or his gloves, or whatever... are you honestly going to tell me that you still have no idea what I'm talking about? Are you telling me that I have to point out race or else you have no idea who I'm referring to? Because I very much doubt it.

Like it or not, your black Maserati isn't going to feel bad or be offended if it's made to look different than everyone else for something it has no control over. Because it's not a human, or even alive at all... it's a thing. It doesn't have thoughts or feelings. Once again, very easy to project human emotion onto objects that aren't human, and once again, it doesn't translate at all.

Why do you assume that black people would be offended to be called black?

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