Well you can stick the whole high pressure surrounding boobs on "supply and demand", the demand is high and supply very low, which puts a lot of pressure on the owners. They want you to want them and yet keep you at bay, it's just not easy to keep up all that social drama :P
As for your exact situation, the girl wanted to strike up a conversation, sure she was a bit on edge because that picture put her own assets to shame, but she was looking for contact none the less. And since you didn't reciprocate she scampered off to find new play mates, who incidentally were admiring ladies she can compete with.
Micalas: Oh he's one of those people that we anime fans don't talk about. The kind that doesn't just have love pillow sex, but love pillow orgies with multiples different pillows. I'm going to have to ask that you pretend that it never happened, pretend you never knew him, and just let my team take care of this. You saw nothing.
Also, apologies for the misinterpretation :)
Please make sure the items are fully incinerated, they are somewhat...dirty...
Ironically he doesn't have any love pillows, just a bunch of videos and a preference for his hand over me... Or to keep on topic, he doesn't have any love pillows but he doesn't have any love for MY pillows either! (Sorry, my sense of humour is somewhat childish ^_^)
Redlin5: You hit the nail on the head there. I'd just like to point out that while a good number of men look at breasts first, most of my friends and I look at the face first ;)
Women also like breasts, as in a man with a well trained body who isn't completely "flat". But womens breasts are used for something (breastfeeding) and they are a lot more, out there than male boobs (generally speaking) so it's like us guys flashing our dicks, they don't have it, it's turned outside = private or sexually offended...
That section up there is confusing and I have no idea what I'm trying to say...
Micalas: Oh he's one of those people that we anime fans don't talk about. The kind that doesn't just have love pillow sex, but love pillow orgies with multiples different pillows. I'm going to have to ask that you pretend that it never happened, pretend you never knew him, and just let my team take care of this. You saw nothing.
Also, apologies for the misinterpretation :)
Please make sure the items are fully incinerated, they are somewhat...dirty...
Ironically he doesn't have any love pillows, just a bunch of videos and a preference for his hand over me... Or to keep on topic, he doesn't have any love pillows but he doesn't have any love for MY pillows either! (Sorry, my sense of humour is somewhat childish ^_^)
Item disposal is not my department. As for his hand, have you seen what the whore will do? She's a dirty girl.
Yup, first rule to men. When a woman starts a conversation, CONTINUE IT.
"lol, yeah, the cartoon women really are overdone, I wish they would draw them more realistically". Then actually talk to the girl...
Mr Cwtchy: Why would you want to converse with a girl who feels the need to lecture people she doesn't even know?
Eh? It's a discussion forum. We're discussing. I don't see the problem. I think things have been going rather smoothly.
The hardest thing in the world is opening a conversation with the opposite sex when you are young.
Even if the girl said, word for word, when the OP claims, the tone or thinking behind it is biased by his own insecurities. He didn't say ANYTHING in return, that, combined with his obvious dislike of the "jocks" suggests that he just assumes it was negative.
It's actually a perfect opening for a conversation if the guy has the brains to respond to it. She could easily have meant it in a teasing way. Or she could have just been having a bad day and a friendly response would have opened the door to more in the future.
This assumes, of course, that the gentleman in question wants anything to do with this woman in the first place, which isn't exactly a given. I mean, she's opened a conversation with a criticism, which, even if meant in a teasing way (which I'm admittedly finding quite doubtful), has obviously not come across that way for whatever reason. Offending someone is not really a good opening move in any social situation. Anyway, all this is rather besides the point. If he had wanted advice on getting a girl, or even just interacting with them, he would have asked for it. That's not what he asked however.
OT: Yes, the way breasts are over-sexualized and sensationalized makes a lot of girls sensitive about them, especially if they themselves are lacking in that area. It's just part of the culture we live in, and one of the more exaggerated aspects of the near-unattainable kinds of bodies many people idealize. I can at least understand where she was coming from, although to simply throw that at a random stranger is a little presumptuous and likely to offend. My girlfriend happens to be flat-chested, and she's pretty insecure about that fact, despite my protests that I love her body the way it is, and she tends to be bothered by the amount of attention breasts are given. It's just another mine in the minefield that is interaction between the sexes.
Redlin5: You hit the nail on the head there. I'd just like to point out that while a good number of men look at breasts first, most of my friends and I look at the face first ;)
Women have faces!?
Nope, that's just a convienient myth. A woman's face is actually a secret third breast.
I'm not at all against using the internet for 'personal reasons', but unless I have them 'out' I am not usually wanting them to have any attention. Hence dressing up to go out.
nicole1207: I'm not at all against using the internet for 'personal reasons', but unless I have them 'out' I am not usually wanting them to have any attention. Hence dressing up to go out.
Was this two separate thoughts originally? If not how does one have the internets "out"?
nicole1207: I'm not at all against using the internet for 'personal reasons', but unless I have them 'out' I am not usually wanting them to have any attention. Hence dressing up to go out.
Was this two separate thoughts originally? If not how does one have the internets "out"?
This was clearly a case of fingers going much slower than brain! I was referring to having my breasts 'out' and the first bit was about the internet. Come on hands, keep up!
nicole1207: I'm not at all against using the internet for 'personal reasons', but unless I have them 'out' I am not usually wanting them to have any attention. Hence dressing up to go out.
Was this two separate thoughts originally? If not how does one have the internets "out"?
This was clearly a case of fingers going much slower than brain! I was referring to having my breasts 'out' and the first bit was about the internet. Come on hands, keep up!
Ah, well that clears things up a bit, although I must admit I am a little disappointed now, I was hoping there were girls out there with the internet on their chest, ah well
Paragon Fury: "Oh, you men and your obsession with breasts! You never think about anything else! And you never like the breasts women have either - you always think they need to be bigger! What, if they're not a C cup or better they're not good enough for you?"
Is she flat chested? Perchance a eeny weeny bit of jealousy going on? /bitch mode off
Guffe: Women also like breasts, as in a man with a well trained body who isn't completely "flat".
That section up there is confusing and I have no idea what I'm trying to say...
Muscles =/= breasts. Moobs are never attractive...
Paragon Fury: "Oh, you men and your obsession with breasts! You never think about anything else! And you never like the breasts women have either - you always think they need to be bigger! What, if they're not a C cup or better they're not good enough for you?"
Is she flat chested? Perchance a eeny weeny bit of jealousy going on? /bitch mode off
Guffe: Women also like breasts, as in a man with a well trained body who isn't completely "flat".
That section up there is confusing and I have no idea what I'm trying to say...
Muscles =/= breasts. Moobs are never attractive...
artanis_neravar: Was this two separate thoughts originally? If not how does one have the internets "out"?
This was clearly a case of fingers going much slower than brain! I was referring to having my breasts 'out' and the first bit was about the internet. Come on hands, keep up!
Ah, well that clears things up a bit, although I must admit I am a little disappointed now, I was hoping there were girls out there with the internet on their chest, ah well
Well with the advances in bionic addons maybe one day it will be possible! nipples could be like those mouse nubs they had on older laptops!
This was clearly a case of fingers going much slower than brain! I was referring to having my breasts 'out' and the first bit was about the internet. Come on hands, keep up!
Ah, well that clears things up a bit, although I must admit I am a little disappointed now, I was hoping there were girls out there with the internet on their chest, ah well
Well with the advances in bionic addons maybe one day it will be possible! nipples could be like those mouse nubs they had on older laptops!
That would be awesome!!
And on a side note, you have managed to confuse me twice in one day, it took me a good 5 mins to figure out why your name wasn't the same name as the one I quoted XD
And on a side note, you have managed to confuse me twice in one day, it took me a good 5 mins to figure out why your name wasn't the same name as the one I quoted XD
Haha, I had been meaning to change my name for a while! Sorry about that!
Kendarik: The hardest thing in the world is opening a conversation with the opposite sex when you are young.
Even if the girl said, word for word, when the OP claims, the tone or thinking behind it is biased by his own insecurities. He didn't say ANYTHING in return, that, combined with his obvious dislike of the "jocks" suggests that he just assumes it was negative.
It's actually a perfect opening for a conversation if the guy has the brains to respond to it. She could easily have meant it in a teasing way. Or she could have just been having a bad day and a friendly response would have opened the door to more in the future.
Several problems here. The first being that there is no way to definitively extrapolate whether or not the OP found the lady in question attractive and even then if he actually has any interest in pursuing her. I don't know about the OP, but personally if I'm minding my own business and someone approaches me completely unprovoked simply to throw some condescending lecture or obnoxious potshot at my personal tastes my way, then I don't give a shit how attractive the guy/girl in question is, at the best of moods I'll offer up a snarky retort, but more likely than not I'll tell them to fuck off and stop bothering me (or more to that effect, than those exact words). Personality means a hell of a lot more than physical attraction in my book and I really don't take kindly to people encroaching on my personal space or insulting me without warrant, so I've no qaulms about getting rid of them and first impressions are rather crucial. I mean even if you're working from the assumption that she was being jocular and simply wanted to start up a conversation, why in the hell would you open with that? Why would they risk making such a piss poor first impression that could risk the person they're speaking to seeing them as a rude and invasive jerk? Surely if you're looking to get an actual conversation out of someone you'd open with something less condescending and inflammatory like 'Hey, whatcha reading there?' or something innocuous to that effect. It's pretty myopic on her part, to think there's no way for the other person to construe the kind of introduction she gave as patronising and invasive. The fact that the OP said nothing would indicate to me that he simply did not want to talk to her (personally nor would I in such a scenario) and to that effect he got a positive outcome as she decided to leave. The impression I get is that she was just looking to insult or mess with him; I've had guys who I can definitively say were straight pestering me in similar circumstances to try and work me up for their amusement and a response if not delivered right, may have dragged out the conversation and given her the satisfaction. The OP doesn't sound particularly fond of her, so I imagine he got exactly what he wanted from his silence. :D
And on a side note, you have managed to confuse me twice in one day, it took me a good 5 mins to figure out why your name wasn't the same name as the one I quoted XD
Haha, I had been meaning to change my name for a while! Sorry about that!
No problem at all, nothing bad came from it, except my friend standing next to me probably won't let me live this down for awhile
Paragon Fury: Men are seemingly allowed to admire a woman's legs and hips as much as they want, but as soon as they move a little bit further north they become perverts or pigs.
I don't know where are you from, but in my country you could be called a pervert if you "admire" at a woman's ass. Also, it probably didn't help that you were looking at a cartoon's boobs, which can only be intentionally designed to titillate the audience. I guess the aesop of the story is: don't stare at women. You may think they could take your "admiration" as a compliment, but its not. That's a general rule of thumb that I guess works well in every culture.
Kendarik: You have no idea how many men "talk to our breasts" when having conversations with us.
The internal struggle to look in vaguely the right region is both eternal and painful. Like some form of boob-induced ADHD.
That is awesomely quotable! I'm putting it in my list of quotes. You two now got a place in history...or something totally different and way smaller. Namely a text file. Whatever the case, you are allowed to feel pride for being there.
I will sympathise... I am a boob man myself... and although I am very subtle, and have never been called out in my life, I do like a quick shufti every now and again[1]... Human nature, (for some, not all!) probably something Freudian about it too...
Then again, the image of well endowed women is attributed to perverted males, and that is always a sore spot for insecure attention grabbers such as your new friend from your class! You can't stop that, so you might as well get used to it... :P
[1] I would like to point out here, that it is not a perverted obsession, just a natural interest in the female form... common amongst all sexually active males, especially those recently single!
Eh? It's a discussion forum. We're discussing. I don't see the problem. I think things have been going rather smoothly.
The hardest thing in the world is opening a conversation with the opposite sex when you are young.
Even if the girl said, word for word, when the OP claims, the tone or thinking behind it is biased by his own insecurities. He didn't say ANYTHING in return, that, combined with his obvious dislike of the "jocks" suggests that he just assumes it was negative.
It's actually a perfect opening for a conversation if the guy has the brains to respond to it. She could easily have meant it in a teasing way. Or she could have just been having a bad day and a friendly response would have opened the door to more in the future.
This assumes, of course, that the gentleman in question wants anything to do with this woman in the first place, which isn't exactly a given.
Unless you are just antisocial, talking to people and making new friends is good.
I mean, she's opened a conversation with a criticism, which, even if meant in a teasing way (which I'm admittedly finding quite doubtful), has obviously not come across that way for whatever reason. Offending someone is not really a good opening move in any social situation. Anyway, all this is rather besides the point. If he had wanted advice on getting a girl, or even just interacting with them, he would have asked for it. That's not what he asked however.
No, he went on a rant attacking her behavior when maybe his own life/social outlook prevented him from seeing the truth. I'm suspecting its something you might share.
Kendarik: The hardest thing in the world is opening a conversation with the opposite sex when you are young.
Even if the girl said, word for word, when the OP claims, the tone or thinking behind it is biased by his own insecurities. He didn't say ANYTHING in return, that, combined with his obvious dislike of the "jocks" suggests that he just assumes it was negative.
It's actually a perfect opening for a conversation if the guy has the brains to respond to it. She could easily have meant it in a teasing way. Or she could have just been having a bad day and a friendly response would have opened the door to more in the future.
Several problems here. The first being that there is no way to definitively extrapolate whether or not the OP found the lady in question attractive and even then if he actually has any interest in pursuing her.
Fascinating and very telling that so many people in this thread seem to think the only reason to talk to a woman is in hopes of getting some.
And I think the OP wouldn't have been so obviously upset and jealous of her moving on to the jocks if he didn't feel inferior to them and wish he could have a girl like that like him too.
The hardest thing in the world is opening a conversation with the opposite sex when you are young.
Even if the girl said, word for word, when the OP claims, the tone or thinking behind it is biased by his own insecurities. He didn't say ANYTHING in return, that, combined with his obvious dislike of the "jocks" suggests that he just assumes it was negative.
It's actually a perfect opening for a conversation if the guy has the brains to respond to it. She could easily have meant it in a teasing way. Or she could have just been having a bad day and a friendly response would have opened the door to more in the future.
This assumes, of course, that the gentleman in question wants anything to do with this woman in the first place, which isn't exactly a given.
Unless you are just antisocial, talking to people and making new friends is good.
I mean, she's opened a conversation with a criticism, which, even if meant in a teasing way (which I'm admittedly finding quite doubtful), has obviously not come across that way for whatever reason. Offending someone is not really a good opening move in any social situation. Anyway, all this is rather besides the point. If he had wanted advice on getting a girl, or even just interacting with them, he would have asked for it. That's not what he asked however.
No, he went on a rant attacking her behavior when maybe his own life/social outlook prevented him from seeing the truth. I'm suspecting its something you might share.
Firstly, while making new friends is good, again, you make the assumption that this is what he wanted. Not liking a person or wanting to be friends with them isn't anti-social. Everyone does it at some point. You seem to assume the OP is some socially awkward guy who can't hold a conversation or make friends, which is the bit that concerns me. It might well be true, but it's kind of a harsh observation to make straight off the bat, especially when you don't have all the facts.
. . . and then went on to assume I'm like that too, which was a bit uncalled for, although we're on the internet so I guess that's pretty mild, comparatively speaking.
This assumes, of course, that the gentleman in question wants anything to do with this woman in the first place, which isn't exactly a given.
Unless you are just antisocial, talking to people and making new friends is good.
I mean, she's opened a conversation with a criticism, which, even if meant in a teasing way (which I'm admittedly finding quite doubtful), has obviously not come across that way for whatever reason. Offending someone is not really a good opening move in any social situation. Anyway, all this is rather besides the point. If he had wanted advice on getting a girl, or even just interacting with them, he would have asked for it. That's not what he asked however.
No, he went on a rant attacking her behavior when maybe his own life/social outlook prevented him from seeing the truth. I'm suspecting its something you might share.
Firstly, while making new friends is good, again, you make the assumption that this is what he wanted. Not liking a person or wanting to be friends with them isn't anti-social. Everyone does it at some point. You seem to assume the OP is some socially awkward guy who can't hold a conversation or make friends, which is the bit that concerns me. It might well be true, but it's kind of a harsh observation to make straight off the bat, especially when you don't have all the facts.
. . . and then went on to assume I'm like that too, which was a bit uncalled for, although we're on the internet so I guess that's pretty mild, comparatively speaking.
I could be wrong, but I was basing it on the tone of his rant and the fact he couldn't understand alternate possible meanings for comments. I actually started off far kinder to him, but people have been challenging me so I'm being fully honest now.
Its basically the same with men and their cocks. Yeah most guys can work out and increase their muscles and other shit women look for in a man, but no matter how fit and handsome a guy is if he has a tiny cock then chicks will mock him. Women view it the same with their tits. Even if they get fit and shit, if they have small tits then most guys will ignore them for a big ol set of DDs.
Well you can stick the whole high pressure surrounding boobs on "supply and demand", the demand is high and supply very low, which puts a lot of pressure on the owners.
They want you to want them and yet keep you at bay, it's just not easy to keep up all that social drama :P
As for your exact situation, the girl wanted to strike up a conversation, sure she was a bit on edge because that picture put her own assets to shame, but she was looking for contact none the less.
And since you didn't reciprocate she scampered off to find new play mates, who incidentally were admiring ladies she can compete with.