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I don't know about anyone else but when I go on holiday, I don't pick my destination based on where their trees rank on the 'Really, Really Old Trees List'. Sure, if I stumble across it I'll think 'huh, that tree is old' and go about my business. I bet a majority of the people here never gave a shit about, or had never heard about, that tree until today and yet now you're crying for blood. Poor girl, I hope she gets help. | |
This particular human being isn't worth much more than your average tree, tbh. | |
the thing is most America tourism goes to few concentrated spots. This is like New York's Time Square or California. A tourism icon, even small one, is invaluable for everyone else. secondly, she wont get help. She will continue on she is bonier than skeletor. | |
I can't get over how fucking awful that thing they call a Woman looks. Don't do Meth kids. | |
Legalize all drugs they said. There will be no negative effects they said. Drugs are a natural part of humanities diet they said. | |
That tree was protected by Florida state law as natural wildlife refuge or however they word it. Side note this wouldn't have happened if it was legal for her to sit on her couch and smoke meth. Not that meth is good just that people are going to do it lets make it safe for the people around them. | |
The 'New' world's 5th oldest tree is rubbing its branches togeather going "he he he 4 more to go till im crowned KING OF THE TREES" | |
If the tree was so important then why was there nobody around to notice? Scary picture. | |
She's frigging 26? Seriously? Man I knew Meth fucked you up but that's just incredible. | |
Actually she is worth less than an average tree, she consumes more resources (food water and air) as well as drugs, land governmental aid and likely gives nothing back. The tree produces oxygen for us and purifies our air so we can continue to live. Man I would love to see this woman burned. Its really too bad she didn't go down with the tree she torched. | |
They've verified that it's all genetically identical, that's good enough for me. And area would be what I'm talking about when I say it's bigger. Otherwise I'd say heavier. | |
To be fair that's a very bad pic, she does look like she's been on a week long drugs binge, but her actual mugshot is nowhere near as bad. PS apologies for using the daily fail | |
You realize it's not one giant mushroom, but mycelium in the ground they are talking about right? That there are roads through that land that more likely then not divide up that organism. It may at some point have been a single organism, but thanks to people it's more likely several genetically identical organisms now. It's always been disputed that it is a single organism anyway and not several colonies, but you won't read that in your news article headline because it doesn't make for the best read. Which brings me to your back peddling. Next time just say you didn't know what you where talking about because of bad information. Don't try to cover it up by pretending you had some different definition of "larger" than everyone else that you kept secret for some reason. | |
I really, really hope they throw the book at her. That is a travesty. It's an INTERNATIONAL landmark, gone forever. Hope it never leaves her conscience. | |
I'm not covering anything up, since when has larger ever meant heavier? It covers a larger amount of ground, I'd call that larger. As for the roads divvying it up, where's your proof it's been cut from the rest? | |
I'm not one to usually value nature over humans. But seriously. She should be crucified against the burnt out husk of the tree and then have bamboo shards hammered up under her nails. Then have iron spikes smashed into her knee-caps and then have her eye's plucked out before they finally finish her of with a splash of gasoline and some matches. Human refuse that's wasting our air is what she is. | |
I say put her to death. Yeah it's harsh, but she's a waste of skin. A parasite. | |
By that logic a lion's mane jelly fish is larger than a blue whale because it's tentacles can reach longer lengths. It isn't larger, it's longer. This honey mushroom in Oregon isn't larger then Pando, it lives in more ground. As for the proof you asked about. I never offered any nor did I intend to. I never made a definitive statement. Even I admit that while not quite as likely some of Pando's roots might be dead, isolating parts from the rest, making them separate organisms, you can't exactly know for sure without digging the whole thing up and checking it out. Same with the fungus. What you can do is look at the evidence you have and come to a reasonable conclusion. The discovery of most of these clonal colonies has occurred relatively recently - Pando has only had the top spot since 1992, the fungus has only really been studied since 2004 following an article about it, and the seagrass was discovered in 2006. Not exactly a lot of time to study these massive organisms. There are already examples found that quite possibly exceed the size of both of these. There is a colony of Coastal Redwoods, and the already mentioned seagrass as candidates for largest organism. There is also another recently discovered colony of aspens in Utah that covers closer to 250 acres (Pando covers 106). Anyway, go on and believe whatever you want. You have pretty much made statements I can only take as your intention to question anything anyone says to you that does not conform to your already established world views. I'm not going to go out of my way here to prove anything or attempt to educate someone that has no desire to learn. Should I be wrong and you wish to learn more that is another story, and I would be happy to continue this discussion. | |
Poor girl. Although the comments beneath that linked article are hilarious. It's disappointing that such an old tree was burnt down and all but fuck, worse things have happened. | |
If anyone wants to find her facebook page, it has a few photos of here Pre-methed out. She was actually quite a looker, or dare I say, Smokin. Anyway, who gives a fuck? Some druggy bitch goes to jail and will likely contribute the square root of zero when she gets out, but will produce 3 kids. I'm sure if this bitch had been tazed the internets would be all a flutter. | |
Eh, it was a Florida landmark. Old trees are not exactly rare in the US. Out of the 20 oldest trees known (non clonal) 17 are located in the US. There are far older clonal trees and clonal colonies. Such as a tree in Norway that is believed to have a root structure that has been growing for 9550 years, the tree growing above ground is no more the 150 years old and periodically dies off only to have the roots send up a new stem. Plants more likely at the level of nation landmark: Methuselah, a Bristlecone pine in California, is the oldest known non clonal organism at 4843 years old, there is a dendrochronology made from these trees that extends back 10,000 years. Pando, a clonal colony Quaking Aspen in Utah, is currently the largest known organism. At 80,000+ years old the organism covers 106 acres and contains more than 47,000 trees. There exists another far larger colony of aspen that has yet to be verified. King Clone, is the oldest known clonal colony Creosote Bush. Located in California this bush started growing roughly 11,700 years ago. The namless Honey Mushroom in Oregon already mentioned several times in this thread possibly covers as much as 2,200 acres and if one organism estimates it's size put it close to the current top spot for biomass (Pando). It's age is estimated at 2400 years old. It has a relative in Washington State that possibly covers 1500 acres and is close to the same age. | |
NO! That's a complete butchery of what I said. By your logic a sea turtle is larger than a box jellfish because it weighs more. I didn't say anything about length, I said size. A blue whale is clearly larger than a lionsmane jellyfish in practically every way, not only weight. A blimp is clearly larger than say, a car sized solid block of Osmium even though the Osmium would weigh far more. Or to bring it down to a more manageable scale. A party balloon is bigger than a marble despite the fact a marble weighs about 30 times what the balloon does. Weight =/= size. Don't butcher my words.
The problem is you're not attempting to educate anyone. You are, by your own admission, just saying things and expecting me to take them at face value. The fungi in Oregon is larger than Pando, and whether or not you consider it to be one organism or not is besides the point. Other people do and unless you can provide any definitive proof that they're wrong. Well I'm just going to be over here not giving a shit. The ill deserved superior tone in your writing is pretty funny though, so there is that. | |
Hopefully during some jail time introspection this junkie realizes that the best path to a happy, healthy fulfilling life is suicide. There's no way she would ever contribute more to this world than that tree would have. | |
such a sad sad way to be in the headlines... | |
Why would you expect me to be educating people when I said I wasn't? That is just silly. I never offered any proof because there is no definitive proof either way only evidence for or against. Through I maybe misunderstanding what you consider proof. Facts are not proof, nor are newspaper articles. I shouldn't have to prove that something that is disputed among the scientific community is disputed, because that is exactly what that status means. There are people who believe the earth is flat, obviously the argument that people believe it therefor I have to prove to you that it isn't true is ridiculous. I'm not going to assume you are stupid, nor have I as yet. Which makes me wonder why you seem to be asking for proof of something that is disputed by people that study the subject for a living. Why would you expect someone who is not an expert to have answers experts don't? That is also just plain silly thinking. Going off the assumption that you are not just plain stupid I have to wonder why you would be asking something so silly. Could it really be just a way of shielding yourself form approaching this with your critical thinking cap on? You place all the burden of disproving your claims on me. It's a tactic used to place the opponent in an argument on the defensive. | |
Except that the earth is demonstrably not flat, so whether people believe that to be true or not is of little consequence to, well anything. You claimed that there are roads that are likely cutting up the fungi, I'm assuming there is evidence to this beyond there simply being roads where the fungi is. Otherwise that would just be an unsubstantiated claim. That's the proof I'm after, hence why the burden of proof is on you. The proof that the fungi is larger than Pando is available in the original link I gave you, and the only dispute about it I'm aware of is as to whether or not it should be thought of as one organism. | |
One tree burning getting more news coverage than entire forests going up in flames. Pathetic. | |
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I don't mean to be a pedantic little prick but trees use up more oxygen then they give out, algae give out 80% of the earths oxygen though.
Anyway, does it suck that an old ass tree got burned down? Sure. Should she have been in there? No. Does it matter? Fuck no. It's sad that it's such an old tree but when it's all said an done, it's a tree...