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It's because androgyny is so vague. I personally find it incredibly unattractive... It's the form that most closely resembles a mannequin. I can't imagine a whole lot of people being attracted to something so gender neutral. Most people who are attracted to one sex and/or another is attracted to that sex because of their defining features. Someone who is androgynous is very... Underwhelming physically by definition. It's hard for most people to be attracted to mildness. That being said, if it's what you're into, it's what you're into. If you feel like it needs a word, lexicograph! Androphile, maybe? Words are fun. | |
probably because the whole thing about androgyny is idealizing the most neutral of body types while normally a more ideal version to most people is something clearly indicative of ones gender, see well defined curves, broad shoulders etc. So I assume most people who are into androgyny merely go about there normal lives and *ahem* personal activities without paying special attention to it. You can't really build a community around being as mild as possible because to an extent people who probably don't even know what the word means find it somewhat attractive on a small level. | |
Mild? I don't feel that way at all. In fact I'm sure to many people androgyny seems unusual and titillating. And for me, that's always been a defining aspect of my sexuality and a large part of why I consider myself bisexual. I would think such a thing would warrant discussion, like like all variants of bisexuality. To me, there's nothing mild or underwhelming about not fitting gender binaries. And I'm certainly not "somewhat attracted" on a "small level". | |
Oh that isn't what I meant, I know from your post that you are very interested in it. I didn't mean the attraction was mild, just that what they are attracted to is mild because it fits right in the middle of the body type spectrum , at least regarding gender. So I am attracted to girls and I am not going to see a girl with a slightly more masculine body type as totally unattractive and I am sure that someone interested in men wouldn't see a man with a slightly more feminine figure as totally unattractive. It's just hard to create a community around neutrality, celebrating a lack of features instead of features. | |
I hate to be patronizing, but I've always been interested in human sexuality from an analytical perspective and I'm now in college studying psychology... And the statements you've provided us with indicate a low level of real world sexual experience and a dissociation between the theory and reality of what is sexually enticing. This is becoming an increasingly difficult problem with youth who are suffering from the revival of Christian Morality in America lately, which pushes them towards only liking the opposite gender and only liking them to a certain point. I'm speaking mostly about the whole Abstinence Only Sexual Education that is a result of the right wing overcompensating for the progressing "liberal agenda" (case in point: Mitt Romney would love to overturn Roe v. Wade and he's the leading Republican candidate). It's very confining. Then you go online where you can learn everything there is to know about anything and you find that sexuality has expanded beyond any sort of simple definition, and it encourages you to explore everything... In theory. I would wager highly on you being an intelligent but very introverted teenage girl who is confident in her theoretical sexuality but has had little to no actual sexual contact with another person. I have more speculation than that, but I'd like to make my post SOLELY constructive and not put your personal life on blast, especially since I don't know you. My advice, stop trying to slap labels on everything. Not everything needs to be discussed as a community with different leagues and factions. Become comfortable and secure in your own body while protecting it and maintaining its dignity. Sexuality is complicated and fragile. Let it do what it wants. NOTE: I also may be full of shit and everything above this line is meaningless. | |
You're basically saying that someone who is really into androgyny is merely someone who hasn't gotten laid proper. That's worse than patronizing. It's a really nice way of saying that. You calling me intelligent and all. But it sounds like you're just saying I feel the way I do because of a lack of experience. A mentality itself I take strong disagreement with. You are correct that I'm not sexually experienced. But I don't think that holds any weight on my affinity for androgyny. I'm also not a teenager, and I'm not introverted. I'm also not very interested in having sex. I like the thoughts and fantasies of having sex. I don't think I want to have sex myself ever. Since I'm uncomfortable with having sex, I shouldn't try to pressure and force myself to try to want to have it. I'm not asexual by a long shot, but I'm not interested in having the sex itself. If someone I was super attracted to were to ask me to have sex, I would say no. Because I am not at a point in my life where I feel comfortable with having sex. It is fine if other people hate sex, and I have no respect for slut shaming and many of the people who partake in it. I do not have an aversion to have sex because of sexual suppression or repression or anything like that. And I agree that sexual repression from conservative thinking is a problem. I just don't want to take part in that sex. To me, the act of having sex is just a fantasy. But much like how there are people who have rape fantasies, but would be traumatized by being raped in reality. My sexual attractions, no matter how intense, are merely fantasy. The idea of having sex does not feel psychologically comfortable in the least. And I am not of the opinion that "you don't know until you try" is something that applies to sex. Certainly not to me, at least. I appreciate your tone. But I don't like where it seems you're going with your words. My personal status is a subjective matter and not very relevant to the matter being discussed, in my opinion. And I find it very disgusting how many people think that your sex life itself is very important to being able to comprehend sexual matters. It's elitist and highly illogical. And far, far too common. | |
Your sophisticated answer says no but the fact you're on the internet says yes. (Just kidding man) I like what you said about not putting labels on everything but I feel it suggests everyone is into everything and sexuality will eventually become just a homogenized blob, not that you said that or it was your point or anything. Then again I spend all my time on the internet and have seen a lot of weird sexual stuff. One of my closer youtube friends has like three obscure fetishes that can't be realized in real life so I might be a bit biased in my sometimes it is okay to label and divide things siding. | |
I agree that people in all communities seem to care far too much about labels. The fact that so many gay people seem so attached to their sexual identity seems alien to me. For instance, there are many gay men, that in actuality, may be bisexual. As they occasionally have attraction to the opposite sex. But they write it off instead of possible adopting a more fitting label. Furthermore, a lot of people don't seem to take issue with the theory that bisexuality exists, as much as the term and identity. And with more labels cropping up like "polysexuality" and "pansexuality", and all the confusion, a lot of people are simply deigning to an almost transgender sort of interpretation of it. "Your gender identity is whatever you think and feel you are" and extending it to sexuality. "You feel gay, you must be gay". But wait, aren't these things just supposed to be tiny descriptors about one tiny aspect of who you are? Then why is there such attachment to these labels, for gays and bisexuals alike? I'm not sure what sexual orientation label fits me anymore sometimes. I just know I'm not strictly heterosexual. I'll be happy to accept whatever label is fitting. Heck, I don't even understand attachment to the concept of gender or sex. If I woke up tomorrow and had a penis and looked masculine, I don't think it would much affect me. I merely see my body as a vessel for my mind. My penis would be a little bit of a sexual curiosity, but that's about it. | |
Have to say that being bisexual sure sounds like a pain in the ass to me. I have more options because I can have both males and females, how will I really know. Perhaps you get in a relationship with a girl you really like. Putting up with her quirks because you love her and things are going great. Oh course now you are craving the penis and want to switch again. What do you do when the other side wants to come out and play. Do you just diddle your junk to guys on the internet? Of course this question has always bugged me. Not trying to be silly, I just want to know. | |
Oh I know where you are coming from with the I am not gay/bi but not strictly heterosexual stuff. I think one of the reasons people put a label on their sexuality is because it isn't incidental to your character like something like race. It determines who you are sexually attracted to and that determines who you may potentially have a relationship with that exceeds the ones with your friends and family. So when you see things like alternative lifestyle bars and the like I see them as more a utility since even if things like homosexuality are accepted it is still a minority and a place like that can form security, knowing the person you meet is going to reciprocate those feelings instead of the awkward situation where it's like: oh I din't see the signs and I don't go that way. If that makes any sense. Another thing is that people some people seem to be entrenched in the idea that there is either no such thing as bisexuality (just experimenting blah blah blah) or that everyone is bisexual to an extent (Oh you're not into that? well you haven't tried yadda yadda yadda) Honestly I think that one of the problems is you can't really prove it as it is something intrinsic to you so just do what you want. Also about the fetishes community thing in the OP and how they are easy to find, it's mostly because in my experience the weird/abnormal/gross nature as well as wishy washy acceptance makes them both keep to themselves and surround themselves with like minded people to convince themselves that it's okay. Captcha: love is blind, I swear this new security is sapient. | |
People be derailin' mah threads. I guess I can play "misconceptions about bisexuality" for a little while, too. I'm sorry, I don't know about everyone, but I don't have another side. You fall in love with a person, not a gender. If I was married to a woman, and was comfortable having sex, I severely doubt I'd get some major hankering for the genitalia of the other sex anymore than people get a hankering for someone with a difference face that the person they love. And even if this did happen, there's a little thing in the world called strap-ons. But again, I really don't see it. Being bisexual doesn't mean you're going to miss one or the other and have to deal with some kind of unfilled desire for some junk doesn't have. I personally like the way penis looks better than vagina overall. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't go for a person first and feel oh so awful if they were missing it. If I'm attracted to someone, I could really care less what they have in their pants for the most part. I don't think that bisexuals miss one reproductive organ when in a relationship any more than they miss the same reproductive organs on a different person. I think it's a terrible misconception some people have that bisexuals have to be with two people in order to be happy. And I can't speak for all bisexuals, but what you have in your pants is not of particular importance to me as far as sexual attraction is concerned.
Oh, I definitely think the bisexual label fits me. Even if many people think the sexuality doesn't exist, it does, and I have it. I just generally think that labels are very overblown sometimes. Of course, as a bisexual, perhaps it's fitting I have a distaste for labels. As both gay and straight people are often insistent my sexuality doesn't exist. Makes me just want to say "oh, FORGET the stupid labels. I like men and women and I like androgyny. So there." But I think we're on the same page. From the look of it, I don't think you're implying I'm not bisexual, the wording is just off. Either way, I like your point. | |
Have to say that I didn't mean any disrespect. I just had to know because I am straight. People on this site that say they are bisexual all the time and I just picked out a random person, lol. Person happened to be you and I didn't think that bisexuals just happened to cheat because they want a little penis. | |
Well thanks, I like your point too! I feel sort of weird discussing all this since I've had few sexual relations but I'm glad people seem to think I have some tact. part of me agrees with the whole no label thing but another part of me feels they serve a purpose because without them sometimes people assume or prod about something you are secure in. Like I'm straight (not fond of the word, I mean are gay people crooked then? but using strictly pc terms limits word use and makes reading posts totally not fluid.) and sometimes people try to imply that I am just bisexual and haven't experimented enough. I tell them the fact that I'm not trying it out is proof enough that I'm not bi but they just right it off as insecure because it isn't like you can prove it. It's like when people say "well my friend wants to know... wants to say... blah blah blah" and people assume that you are just saying that so you don't have to be upfront or whatever, but what happens when it's really true and it is on behalf of your friend or whatever? I call it "The dog really did eat my homework syndrome." | |
I didn't specify a sampling of people who are into androgyny as a community of people who haven't been laid proper. I specified you as someone who is a bit presumptuous about the nature of sexuality. The chemistry that occurs in your body as a result of sexual stimulation or even arousal through a secondary source is something that does indeed need to be experienced in order to be understood. It is not an elitist stance but a very logical one. Notice how I hit the nail precisely on the head with my analysis? You'd be surprised how predictable people are. In fact, the very notion of trying to be unpredictable is in itself extremely predictable and leads to very predictable reactions. That's a trap I fall into a lot myself. It's human. Now something else of which you should take notice is how I closed my statement. More important than physical experience is personal experience. You need to come to terms with how you feel about your own body. Attempt to feel comfortable in your own gender and appreciate your body as it came. Let no one else define what it is or what it should do. This definitely does not encourage you to go out and get laid by as many people as possible. I'm actually advocating the opposite. In a perfect world, no one would have sex until they were full adults capable of handling all of the nasty side effects that can happen as a result of any sexual encounter (psychological or physical). Now for an actual blanket statement: In my personal experience, androgyny (and attraction to it) is a remarkably reliable indicator of emotional or psychological discomfort which can be caused by a myriad of things. Some are as uncontrollable as simply not being comfortable in your biological or environmental situation, and some are as superficial as the desire to rebel. And sometimes, though rarely, even that is wrong. I'm distracted at the moment of this writing so forgive me if this post is a little convoluted, but my main point persists. Don't worry about it. Be you, whatever you are, and be happy about it. If you aren't happy about it, maybe you're not what you think you are and you need some more introspection. And don't let anyone else try to turn you into something else. (Also, this is irrelevant to the topic, but it does come in handy if you quote the person to whom you are speaking. It ensures others don't think you are talking to them and it sends a message to them that you have replied to what they've said.) | |
I know exactly what you mean there. I made it a goal to understand every fetish I could find and give it some kind of psychologically relevant explanation. Interestingly enough, the only one for which I couldn't even fake an explanation for is feet. I just can't seem to grasp it! Corprophila, vorephilia, bondage, inflation, BDSM, it all makes sense... But feet are just beyond explanation. This is just my opinion, but I feel like the labeling is just too constrictive for sexuality. Let's say you like catgirls. Does that make you a furry? A zoophile? Do you like getting "knotty?" How do you section yourself off as someone with a minor kink to someone who has a very close relationship with his dog? I think it's way easier to just say, "I like catgirls!" Similarly, I think it's way easier to say, "I like people who are androgynous!" | |
Oh man... most of the things you just listed... bad memories man. I think the thing that is weird is that most seem to center around a sort of dominant/submissive dynamic but manifest in sort of metaphorical ways, probably because of some sort of pretence from a younger age or something. You covered Macrophilia yet man? that's the only one I can remember that my youtube friend guy has and so far to me it seems really tame by comparison to most of the other stuff. And about the label stuff... you have know idea how much of a blanket statement that would be, in those communities they get into very specific genres of said fetishes. I remember I saw this one group on deviant art that had like 11 different folders specific to different takes on the same kink. | |
Look at TV and pop music, androgyny is mainstream. Androgyny is a bad search term because you should can get more specific, "girls with short hair", "guys with long eyelashes", etc. | |
No offense, but I think your experiences are terrible. And leading you to illegitimate androgyny and attraction to it. Which is perfectly legitimate. You even started off your post in this thread by saying you don't find androgyny attractive. I think your biases are coming into the equation. There's nothing, nothing illegitimate at all about sexuality or fetishes geared toward the direction of androgyny. And if you think the fact some people tend to prefer androgyny instead of clearly masculine men or feminine women, I think that's ridiculous. And quite frankly, offensive, despite the civil tone of your posts. I'm sorry, but you seem to be implying that an attraction to androgyny is inferior to the alternative, and even indicative of mental problems. That's rather horrid no matter what tone you put it in. You seem to wish for others to be as unattractive to androgyny as you are. To be honest, the implication that people who like androgyny has psychological problems, and that the desire would go away if they merely "felt more comfortable in their bodies" sounds a tad bit... biphobic perhaps, of some variety. Because if some people are into masculine men, and some people are into feminine women, why would being into the in between be any different? You have called people biologically uncomfortable or shallow rebels if they are sexually toward androgyny. But you yourself seem to want people to conform to gender norms. This, honestly, doesn't seem much better that "homophobia", or treating homosexuality as inferior, and mentally unwell. Being into androgyny is a legitimate sexuality, and as someone who has it, I love it. I don't appreciate the gender status quo being propped up as good or superior. Being cisgender or having cisgender sexual preferences is in NO way superior. And if cisgenderism is so propped up by people who otherwise support homosexuality and the like. Perhaps we need more "rebels". I am perfectly comfortable in my body and my sexuality. And I'd like to be around people who feel as positively about androgyny as I do. The reason I think it would be nice to be among a community of androgyny fans, is because there are people who act like men should be manly and women should be feminine, and people should be attracted to one or the other extreme. Needless to say, I don't believe your claim that it is reliable that "androgynous people are psychologically unwell" or "people sexually attracted to androgynous people are psychologically unwell". It's no better than calling gay people psychologically unwell. And quite frankly, disgusting. It's because people have feelings like this that it would be nice for people with this kind of bisexuality to have a community. To get away from people who would like to enforce gender norms, that "men should be men and women should be women" and simply enjoy their attraction in good company. Without a bunch of crud about how they shouldn't be attracted to that guy, he's too girly, you'd might as well be attracted to a girl. Or you shouldn't be attracted to that girl, she's too masculine, you'd might as well be attracted to a guy. And I hope that someday your line of thinking about androgyny doesn't exist anymore. I know you're not trying to be rude. But you're clearly trying to marginalize and discredit my sexuality as invalid. In fact it's this kind of mentality that has led to some bisexuals rejecting the term "bisexual", in favor of something like polysexual, because they believe that it implies a gender binary that they to not prefer. In fact if I had to be a monosexual, I'd be a monosexual for androgyny. My sexuality falls outside of the gender binary. That's just the facts. I'm probably Pansexual to a degree since I care most about personality. But my body and mind react most strongly to this. This is my legitimate sexuality, and I don't like it being taken as a sign of low self esteem. | |
Androgyphile? That sounds like a decent word for it. SO I PROCLAIM, SO SHALL IT BE! | |
Sure... its called "I love the 80's" and much like every other fad related to a decade, its returned roughly 20-30 years later and regaining popularity with the emo/scene thing a couple years back. | |
To a tiny extent. And I'm appreciative of what little success in subcultures and things androgyny has. As actually having somewhere to fulfill such a thing. Though I'd say it only flirts with it, and my idea of androgyny and what I like is far further down the path and more extreme. It's comfortable to see various cultures to flirt and experiment with it. It's certainly a fanservice to me and people like me. It's still pretty darn normal for men to have large shoulders, tall, and muscular builds, and women to have small shoulders, petite builds, short, and curvy. "Curvy" of course being a term for large hips and breasts. Personally, I don't have an issue with breasts, because I don't care whether someone is fat or skinny. Heavier people are always going to have a bit of breast tissue, hardly any avoiding that. What I don't find very attractive is when breasts are prominent as a feminine thing. A tiny waist but large amounts of fat on the chest, generally giving a curvy figure along with hips. Isn't very attractive to me. The thing about androgyny being specific though, is a good thing. Most people don't have huge preferences towards these little things or it would seem shallow. But when you add them up, it starts registering a "man" or a "woman" in people's minds, and thus invoking their heterosexuality or homosexuality. But there is an exception to this, and people can be registered as in between, overall. "Androgyny" is a good term for what doesn't register in the "man" category for heterosexual women and homosexual men, or the "women" category, for heterosexual men and homosexual women. I find it is an appropriate term for what my sexuality is driven towards when I recognize it. Some people get their kicks in one extreme or the other, thus are called gay or straight. Or sometimes lesbian of course. And others like me, get our kicks right in the centre. Since we have a catch all term like "man" or "woman", it's sensible that we have a catch-all centre term. Personally, I do realize that some media and cultures flirt with the slightest degree of androgyny. But if it were mainstream, and I would honestly love it if it actually were, we would be seeing drag kings everywhere. Not songs about big butts. | |
interesting topic and i actually get being attracted to people purely for who they are rather than a gender, etc | |
See, the reason there isn't a fetish about it is because it isn't really a fetish, if there is something that incorporates androgyny I can guarantee you that it will always fall into some other kind of fetish first, and if people like anything that is androgynous, you can almost always find another reason of why they like it, other than it being androgynous, and if you tried to connect all of the different things together based on the fact that they are androgynous, you'll find that they are still wildly different because of the other themes in them. Although my captcha seems interested in this challenge: watch me, and I gotta admit, I've been having more fun ever since the captcha became slightly self aware. | |
*Hugs* I like this one. Eh, I see no connection between the political things you're talking about. I'll also say that androgyny can be very attractive, as a relatively sexually experienced bisexual male. [1] WTFBBQ | |
Yeah, there is a term for the fetish but i dont remember what it is | |
Is it really a fetish, though? I thought many people (including me) tend to like androgynous people, because they're "the best of both". And no, (not directing this at anyone in particular), androgyny doesn't necessarily entail gender-neutral or anything like that. That's not even the definition of androgyny. "Vague" can be part of its definition, but with many androgynous people, you can still identify what gender they are. It doesn't always have to entail some kind of inner homosexuality/bisexuality or whatever, and if you think that, you must be very ignorant of sexuality in general. I suppose the reason there's not really much of an androgynephilic community is because it's not really specific, or at least not as much as some others. As for labels, I think they're somewhat restricting, because sexuality is such a fluid and vibrant scale that can take many grey shades, and isn't as black-and-white as people think. And that's not even taking into account the various paraphilias that can essentially be a person's sexual orientation. To be honest: fuck labels. I know it's in our human nature and whatnot to assign names to things so we can organize them and stuff, but I don't care. A man should be able to say that he has sex with other men without necessarily having to identify as homosexual because society, the outside influence, says so. TV and pop music making it mainstream is a good point, as well as all those pretty male characters in manga, anime and certain Japanese video games. Look at the fashion industry. Look at metrosexuality. | |
I'm just gonna throw this here because we're touching on LGBT issues - Khaos Komix is a really good LGBT webcomic. The first page is here Also, Tom is the sexiest fictional character I've ever seen. He's also ultra androgynous. :3 | |
You're confusing my stance again. It's not a matter of bias. It's a matter of education. It isn't biased for an anthropologist to be skeptical of creationism. The fact is that you can read what I'm saying in textbooks. There's what you tell me and there's what I can infer from your posts. If you feel I'm full of shit, that's fine. I'm just some tool on a forum. I'm just giving you a rational explanation for why there aren't a whole lot of people into androgyny. | |
I think you ought to back up your "education" on such an extraordinary claim. Also, there are textbooks that claim that being homosexual is mentally ill. But please, do cite your so called sources.
It seems as specific, to me, as saying you like women or men. I do agree that androgyny is somewhat popular... and also somewhat not. It's a big minority, I guess. I have to say that while I don't necessarily agree with this explanation. I like it a heck of a lot better than Lunchbox's explanation that we're mentally ill. Or something along those lines.
You giving me a "I know you're saying this, but I know better because I'm educated" which smells of things like a whole but of other armchair psychologist "I know you better than you" stuff on the internet. Your inferences draw on a whole lot of problematic, faulty assumptions about the world. And thus they are largely wrong. I am not a teenager, I am not uncomfortable in my own body. I am certainly not uncomfortable in my own gender. You're also incorrect about me being introverted. Not that any of these things would discredit a preference for androgyny like you're attempting to do. And whether someone is a virgin or not is meaningless. Attempting to say something like virgins don't know their sexuality is ridiculous. | |
Except...there are a whole lot of people into androgyny, and many people (including me) have already contributed reasons as to why there isn't that much of a community for it. Look at all the yaoi that's out there. Why do you think this guy
is so popular? | |
Not even saying whether or not you like men or women is specific, because, as you probably well know, a lot of people are bisexual, pansexual, ambiguous, or anything else on the vast spectrum of sexuality. Not to mention that sexual attraction and romantic attraction can be seperate for some people. But I always figured that androgyny was somewhat popular. IMO, it's certainly less "deviant" than some of the other paraphilias like BDSM. It seems like a pretty basic paraphilia, but it's just somewhat more vague and/or less specific. | |
But there are a whole lot of people into androgyny. I'm not saying that. I think there are a great deal of people just like me, of varying differences, sexual experience, hyposexuals, hypersexuals, all sorts of people who are geared towards androgyny. I merely have noticed there don't seem to be a lot of labels around it like there are things like twink communities, bear communities, and chub communities. Twink communities being the closest to androgyny in that list. What I've been arguing is not what you think I was. More along the lines of, "I think that androgyny is a really popular fetish or orientation or whathaveyou, so why isn't it more prominent in terms of a term and community?"
Exactly. I appear to have been ninja'd. Listen to this person, Lunchbox. They're right. | |
Alright, you went from never quoting me to quoting me in three separate places, while still ignoring my main point. The fact that you persist I'm attacking you while my stance has been nothing but supportive (and at times even self-effacing) is frustrating to say the least. I'm going to abandon this discussion and just leave you with the thought that maybe you should stop trying to label things and you'll find there are more people than you think who you can get along with and talk to about your feelings and preferences. This is the internet. No niche is neglected. | |
I'm sorry. I'm not trying to be rude. But what you were getting at seemed just a little bit suspect. Like too many other people I've come across trying to illegitimize attraction to androgyny. I'm sorry if I overstepped my bounds. And thank you for trying to be supportive. You've definitely had a supportive tone and I'm sorry if I haven't responded in kind enough. Perhaps you're right about some of that "insecurity" stuff. I've faced a lot of biphobia in my life, both from heterosexuals, and definitely homosexuals, actually, as well. People who think such a sexuality is wrong and disgusting, and think that I should make a decision to go for men or women more, and that if I just got my mind together I would realize I'm either gay or straight. Or that if I just got my mind together I wouldn't like androgyny and would suddenly grow a preference for tall men with broad shoulders and a big square jaw and hair all over their bodies. And I have a major aversion to that sort of thing. It not only illegitimizes my sexuality, but androgyny itself. And I've had a lot of experiences with this. As common as rudeness and ill intent is on the internet, the last thing I want to do is scare off someone who wants to act in goof faith and get along. I think that many bisexuals, for instance, have been far too harsh on Dan Savage. And I've tried not to be one of them. | |
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I've noticed how there's a lot of fetishes out there, of course. And of course, being the internet, there tends to be a lot of communities based upon people being able to express their feelings. Whether it be base things like porn, or discussing drama and relationships and things related to it. Like bdsm romance talk and the like and how partners deal with the desires.
And there's lots of them. Lots of fat fetish communities, bear communities, foot fetish communities, bdsm communities, here on the internet.
Not so easy to find something centred around androgyny. Things close to it, maybe. Like fetishism of transgender people, polysexual and pansexual communities, fetishism of simply crossdressing... ect. But not really anything so apt to a specific area of things or catch-all as androgyny. Even though there are surely plenty of people who like that sort of thing and would like a label or something to rally around, and a supportive community of sorts. You know, not that such a thing is important, most people of any sexuality don't have one. But still, it'd be nice to have such an exception.
I as a bisexual myself am attracted most to the center. I care most about personality, but I do like androgyny a whole, whole lot. One of the reasons I've always felt bisexual, is that I've always felt most attracted to the centre of the sexes. And while I do see bisexual sites to sign up for and talk about things. Not feel alone, and all that. A lot of bisexuals aren't this way. So it would be nice, I dunno, to find a community of other folks that are into this niche. I don't know, it would just feel good. Maybe that sounds weird, and silly, I know that vanilla heterosexuals don't have communities built around such things. But I'd like it, to be honest. Around heterosexuals(men, in this case, obviously) who go on about how curvy and feminine women are and how great it is, I feel kinda left out. Because I'm not into that sort of thing.
But, say, try to search for that sort of thing in google, nobody has any science as to why some people may like androgyny best. Nobody has any name for the attraction. No fetish or sexual orientation term or anything. And no community. Look.
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See? Hardly anything. On the other hand, a quick search of "foot fetishism" or "fat fetishism" yields much in google. Very quickly.
What's going on here? Androgyny fetishism or orientation or whatever the sexual preference or attraction is, is should have a lot of followers of whatever appropriate term. So shouldn't there be a lot about it? Researching, curiosity, communities, all of that sort of thing. I thought the internet was for porn, folks.
Androgyny seems to be a term. But not a much thought about one. ... Why?