Guys, what do you think about make-up?

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Simple question, what is your opinion on make-up. Also to the girls, why do you wear make-up.

I ask this because there is this girl in my class who completely plasters herself in make up (and shows up late for school because of her make-up) She also wears hair extensions (denies it, but it is obvious) and I realized I have never seen her without wearing tons of make-up.

I personally dislike girls wearing loads of make-up, the occasional eye-shadow and lipstick on dates is okay I guess but everything else looks awful.

I'm not a big fan of the caked on look. If it looks like you're wearing a porcelain mask, you're welcome too much.

Some of the most beautiful women I've known knew that some days all they needed was a little lip gloss and maybe a little blush.

It's only when a serious event comes up that I think that the boat load of makeup is warranted. But even then... in good taste PLEASE!

Like everything...it must be used in moderation. The pretty one's that I know only wear lip gloss...some none at all.

And I am amazed at the number of relation threads that are popping up, we have had a lot of discussion about women lately. I like it

I don't think people should bother with it at all. Then again, I'm hardly the target audience.

arnoldthebird:
Like everything...it must be used in moderation. The pretty one's that I know only wear lip gloss...some none at all.

And I am amazed at the number of relation threads that are popping up, we have had a lot of discussion about women lately. I like it

I think it's because it's Spring time in the Northern Hemisphere. Most people are looking forward to their summer flings or starting of a new relationship. At least that was me when I was single.

In the Southern Hemisphere, Winter's a comin'. That crap thing to do is be stuck in your home during the cold Winter months by yourself.

OT:

Also forgot to mention that there's a distinct difference between touching bare skin and skin with makeup on it. I prefer bare.

I personally don't wear a whole lot, just a little eye makeup and foundation cause that's what makes me feel pretty. I don't like the whole caked on look, but that's what makes some girls happy and that's okay! Everyone has their own tastes :p

Also, this is semi relevant to the topic and it came to mind: as a girl, and I know other girls that feel the same way, it's not exactly nice to tell a girl she looks better without makeup. It's kind of like saying "that extra effort you put in to look pretty actually made you look worse." So instead, maybe say "you look fine without makeup." So yeah, not entirely relevant but it popped into my head.

museofdoom:
I personally don't wear a whole lot, just a little eye makeup and foundation cause that's what makes me feel pretty. I don't like the whole caked on look, but that's what makes some girls happy and that's okay! Everyone has their own tastes :p

Also, this is semi relevant to the topic and it came to mind: as a girl, and I know other girls that feel the same way, it's not exactly nice to tell a girl she looks better without makeup. It's kind of like saying "that extra effort you put in to look pretty actually made you look worse." So instead, maybe say "you look fine without makeup." So yeah, not entirely relevant but it popped into my head.

Well thank you. I'll have to make a note of that.

The wonderful thing about MAC is their uncanny ability to create natural beauty. In layman's terms, the vast majority of those natural beauties out there are wearing just as much makeup as the mannequin style ladies, they just know how best to apply different shades and tones to enhance their natural colouring and bone structure.

And boys, we wear makeup because it makes us feel pretty - and when we feel pretty, we feel happy, and when we feel happy, we achieve more. We don't do it for you, sorry.

Stasisesque:
And boys, we wear makeup because it makes us feel pretty - and when we feel pretty, we feel happy, and when we feel happy, we achieve more. We don't do it for you, sorry.

Ah yes this! I couldn't have said it better myself!

Honestly, I hate it when guys are like "girls should stop wearing makeup." Like, no no. It makes us happy. SHUT IT.

I like makeup on a woman. It's feminine.

Stasisesque:
And boys, we wear makeup because it makes us feel pretty - and when we feel pretty, we feel happy, and when we feel happy, we achieve more. We don't do it for you, sorry.

Well, yes and no. It can be more indirect than some people make it out to be. But I still think a lot of the reason is because women are so thoroughly objectified in society.

We shouldn't have to wear make-up to feel pretty. Heck, women shouldn't even need to feel pretty. It's not just make-up, but so many things in society bent around making women's looks important, but not men's.

Though I do think eyeliner looks amazing on men~. If it weren't for the "emo" backlash, it'd be more popular currently.:<

museofdoom:
Honestly, I hate it when guys are like "girls should stop wearing makeup." Like, no no. It makes us happy. SHUT IT.

Well, it makes some of us happy, apparently.

I dont know how to apply it save for foundation

I tried learning but then I think "theres a million other things Id rather be doing right now"

usually I dont bother..just foundation, rarely will women go without at least a little foundation, to cover up those flaws

as a guy i'd say its nice in moderation but never essential for any woman.
though have seen some women get very creative with it which is cool :)

LilithSlave:

Stasisesque:
And boys, we wear makeup because it makes us feel pretty - and when we feel pretty, we feel happy, and when we feel happy, we achieve more. We don't do it for you, sorry.

Well, yes and no. It can be more indirect than some people make it out to be. But I still think a lot of the reason is because women are so thoroughly objectified in society.

We shouldn't have to wear make-up to feel pretty. Heck, women shouldn't even need to feel pretty. It's not just make-up, but so many things in society bent around making women's looks important, but not men's.

Though I do think eyeliner looks amazing on men~. If it weren't for the "emo" backlash, it'd be more popular currently.:<

museofdoom:
Honestly, I hate it when guys are like "girls should stop wearing makeup." Like, no no. It makes us happy. SHUT IT.

Well, it makes some of us happy, apparently.

So some women wear makeup to NOT feel pretty?

The reasons behind the need for makeup are large and convoluted, but makeup exists to make you feel pretty. If it doesn't make you feel pretty and you continue to wear it, there are deeper seated problems that need addressing. If feeling pretty doesn't make you happy, again deeper seated problems. My point is that women do not wear makeup because men think it looks nice. Your argument that women are objectified and society requires them to feel pretty undermines every woman who wears makeup to feel pretty because she wants to feel pretty.

Edit: As said in a post down there vvv I do by no means mean women SHOULD feel pretty to be happy. I mean if there are reasons why a woman is unhappy, and these are not shallow, superficial reasons, they need to be addressed - no makeup will ever fix those. I neglected to add this part before, and looked like a total nutcase. I promise I'm not a nutcase, just very tired.

If I can see your make up, you are wearing too much. That is about all I have to say about that.

Stasisesque:
So some women wear makeup to NOT feel pretty?

Actually, yes, that does sometimes happy. Though that's beside the point as I'm saying yes and no about the man factor.

Stasisesque:
but makeup exists to make you feel pretty.

Yes, very true. Well, for the most part. But, exactly why are women so expected by society to "be pretty", but not men?

Stasisesque:
If feeling pretty doesn't make you happy, again deeper seated problems.

I need the think for women to be pretty is a "deep seeded problem". What about women's personalities? Men being judged by power and personality and women being judged by looks is not a good thing.

Women shouldn't need "feeling pretty" to feel good about themselves. A woman can be a brilliant scientist without being "pretty". Albert Einstein didn't give two hoots about "being pretty", so why should women as a whole?

And if women should "feel pretty", shouldn't women just like themselves the way they are, and not feel like they have to put a lot of effort into their appearance that men don't? There's more to this issue that just liking accessories on your body, from necklaces to make-up. We're living in a society where fat women are ultra-shamed. And what is considered a "pretty woman" is astronomically ridiculous.

Stasisesque:
Your argument that women are objectified and society requires them to feel pretty undermines every woman who wears makeup to feel pretty because she wants to feel pretty.

Where do you think our society gets its concept of a "pretty woman" from?

It really depends. In general less is more in my opinion.
heavy eye makeup CAN be nice on some people, but its highly individual.

The caked on look never looks good imo, and most of the time makes you look to old (Since it is a habit of aging women who wants to look young :P)

So yeah keep it simple, and mostly around the eyes imo.

LilithSlave:

Stasisesque:
So some women wear makeup to NOT feel pretty?

Actually, yes, that does sometimes happy. Though that's beside the point as I'm saying yes and no about the man factor.

Stasisesque:
but makeup exists to make you feel pretty.

Yes, very true. Well, for the most part. But, exactly why are women so expected by society to "be pretty", but not men?

Stasisesque:
If feeling pretty doesn't make you happy, again deeper seated problems.

I need the think for women to be pretty is a "deep seeded problem". What about women's personalities? Men being judged by power and personality and women being judged by looks is not a good thing.

Women shouldn't need "feeling pretty" to feel good about themselves. A woman can be a brilliant scientist without being "pretty". Albert Einstein didn't give two hoots about "being pretty", so why should women as a whole?

And if women should "feel pretty", shouldn't women just like themselves the way they are, and not feel like they have to put a lot of effort into their appearance that men don't? There's more to this issue that just liking accessories on your body, from necklaces to make-up. We're living in a society where fat women are ultra-shamed. And what is considered a "pretty woman" is astronomically ridiculous.

Stasisesque:
Your argument that women are objectified and society requires them to feel pretty undermines every woman who wears makeup to feel pretty because she wants to feel pretty.

Where do you think our society gets its concept of a "pretty woman" from?

Looking back at my original post I realise I missed out an entire sentence, and now come across as a bit mental. I did by no means mean feeling pretty SHOULD make you happy, I meant that there are deeper reasons to unhappiness than superficial, shallow reasons and these should be addressed before trying to fix oneself with material goods or even certain behaviours. Going to go back and edit my original post now to save further embarrassment on that part.

A woman should really wear however much make-up she wants to wear.

I consider it part of the bigger picture and not really something that can be judged individually.

If she's the type that spends extreme attention to everything then that could easily come with using a fair amount of make-up and that's perfectly fine.

Likewise if she's the type that's more focussed on singular activities then make-up will just take time away from those activities and that's perfectly fine as well.

But it has to suit the bigger picture. Those poster "gamer-girls" who're implied to be completely absorbed and even obsessed by gaming yet wear perfect make-up and everything often feel fake (I realize there are very real women who're both real gamer-girls and know exactly how to use make-up but I hope you understand what I'm referring to here).

I feel a woman's make-up should accentuate who she is, not put forth an image that doesn't match the person behind it. If that makes any sense.

I think it's a bugger to apply and look go with, which is why I don't do it.

LilithSlave:

Stasisesque:
Your argument that women are objectified and society requires them to feel pretty undermines every woman who wears makeup to feel pretty because she wants to feel pretty.

Where do you think our society gets its concept of a "pretty woman" from?

Well, poor naive me who cannot possibly think for herself, would suggest the fashion industry - but of course they're only out to make me feel like I have to be a six foot waif with flowing blonde hair, eyes too big for my face and breasts jutting out of my collarbone.

Non sarcastic me would suggest this does not matter. Women, most women, I'd even go do far as to say the vast majority of women in the western world (and a number of awe inspiring women elsewhere) are capable of thinking for themselves, choosing for themselves what they want out of life - and if that involves looking pretty in the morning, why is that wrong? Because some man down the line may objectify her? For some reason, despite being able to make her own choices in life she'll suddenly buckle under his male dominance because she's chosen to look a certain way, and he finds that sexually appealing? This is what I mean by your statement undermining women.

Society doesn't need to change for us, we can damn well change it.

Stasisesque:
Because some man down the line may objectify her?

I instead think the entire cultural tendency came about through the male gaze.

I think this kind of perspective undermines women, that its a good thing if we objectify ourselves, and worry about "being pretty", as long say we don't do it to please men.

Women are obviously capable of thinking for themselves. But everyone internalizes social constructs. And the fashion industry, has indeed a heavy aspect of male gaze influencing it. In the case of women choosing, many women choose to perpetuate the objectification of women.

Again, my question. Where do you think society gets its concept of a "pretty woman" from? And what is the purpose of being a "pretty woman"? Why does a woman need a particular interest in being "pretty"?

LilithSlave:
Again, my question. Where do you think society gets its concept of a "pretty woman" from? And what is the purpose of being a "pretty woman"? Why does a woman need a particular interest in being "pretty"?

From some where way older than anything that can be called "Society" given we see this behaviour in various forms out side of humans in both males and females of the species.

LilithSlave:
I need the think for women to be pretty is a "deep seeded problem". What about women's personalities? Men being judged by power and personality and women being judged by looks is not a good thing.

Women shouldn't need "feeling pretty" to feel good about themselves. A woman can be a brilliant scientist without being "pretty". Albert Einstein didn't give two hoots about "being pretty", so why should women as a whole?

And if women should "feel pretty", shouldn't women just like themselves the way they are, and not feel like they have to put a lot of effort into their appearance that men don't? There's more to this issue that just liking accessories on your body, from necklaces to make-up. We're living in a society where fat women are ultra-shamed. And what is considered a "pretty woman" is astronomically ridiculous.

i agree with most but not all your points here.
Yes very true that in most circumstances people shouldn't be judged by how they look
Which women commonly are and men commonly aren't, which sucks.
its disgraceful to our society that women are ridiculed on a daily basis if they don't look good. i would point out men are too but no where near to the same extent.
and the fact that lot of women have the need to feel pretty is also pretty damn bad.
however man or women if you want to be pretty i have no problem with that. i think people have the right to pursue whatever they want in life.

but in the whole dating scene kinda way it does matter quite a bit and to imply men don't put any effort into their appearance is simply not true. on the whole maybe they don't put as much effort as women but i know some guys who spend about 3-4 hours a day in the gym to look good to impress the ladies. even i put in effort on nights out, i take up to an hour and a half making sure i look good and most guys i know put in similar amounts of effort (i know many women probably do a lot more than that on a daily basis and they shouldn't have to)
Yeah for the dating thing both men and women put seem to put in the effort for their looks and it does matter in that situation. it is attraction at the end of the day sexual attraction at that. I'm not saying all about getting laid but entering a romantic relationship sex is a big part of that.

I do like lipstick on a woman.

That is all.

museofdoom:

Stasisesque:
And boys, we wear makeup because it makes us feel pretty - and when we feel pretty, we feel happy, and when we feel happy, we achieve more. We don't do it for you, sorry.

Ah yes this! I couldn't have said it better myself!

Honestly, I hate it when guys are like "girls should stop wearing makeup." Like, no no. It makes us happy. SHUT IT.

And it DOES make you prettier :D
And I approve of Happy girls... much better than cranky girls :P

I'd say a little bit of foundation and a little something to make the eyes appear bigger is the appropriate amount. The caked on look is less attractive than the natural look, so y'know ladies, less is more.

museofdoom:
I personally don't wear a whole lot, just a little eye makeup and foundation cause that's what makes me feel pretty. I don't like the whole caked on look, but that's what makes some girls happy and that's okay! Everyone has their own tastes :p

As a bloke, and it had to happen eventually doomy, I agree with you.

A little bit is fine. I'm not a big fan of lasses that slap it on like warpaint.

When it takes a chisel to remove it then it's a bit much.

I don't think makeup is always needed to make a woman look prettier then again i'm well aware they don't wear it for our benefit.

So yeah, a little bit is great whether it's needed or not. When it's applied with a trowel it's a bit much.

Like a lot of the responses, when it looks like a mask it's not good. I'm the type who prefers the natural look. I like a girl who still looks sexy even after she's just woken up. I am however a sucker for some cherry lips.

I like girls with as minimal makeup as possible. Girl's in general look so much better I think when they look more natural and don't look like dolls.

In the words of Diggy, whilst talking about girls who wear too much make up, "I wouldn't do you with a borrowed dick". Seriously though, there are limits, I want to go out with a person not the contents of a pharmacy. :)

It's pretty disgusting when they have that cover-up all over the face. I'm a sucker for mascara though.

"Feeling pretty" is a concept I never understood. (How can you feel something which is subjective from person to person?)

It probably could be better worded as "feeling feminine".

Makeup's a pain and I really don't like wearing it that much, unfortunately I have a blushing condition which makes most of my face turn tomato red at the drop of a hat, so I don't really have much choice.

Oh, dude, i love girls with lots of make up and long hair extensions! And... i suppose that's all i can contribute to this topic.

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