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orangeban:

Rowan93:

Xangba:

I see you fail to mention atheists, the ones who think that they are the only ones with higher cognitive functions. Agnostic at least acknowledges that NO ONE has any proof whatsoever of anything, so we should all shut up about it.

Well, obviously I didn't mention atheists, because the atheists are right. That's my point. Religious people are wrong, deists are wrong, agnostics are in a funny ying-yang state of rightwrong which makes them annoying, and all of that is because atheistm is correct.

The belief in a creator god violates occam's razor, and when you get right down to it, is just patently silly.

Well, actually, being silly is just another way of saying something violates occam's razor, but I think it carries more weight, and gets the point across better for what "violates occam's razor" actually means. The idea of god is silly, and agnostics consider the belief in a creator god to be worth considering, but not worth trying to analyse, or even decide whether they think one exists or not, which makes them in many ways worse than ordinary theists.

I don't understand your point about agnosticism. Agnosticism is saying that you don't know if there is a God or not, because there is no proof either way. It's not a belief, in fact I'd call it the most rational of the bunch. We don't say that it's not worth trying to analyse the belief (I say we, but I can obviously only talk for myself, sorry other agnostics!), we just think that it is impossible to prove that God does/doesn't exist.

Agnostics believe the idea of God is worth considering because, well, the nature of our universe is something that is worth considering, surely?

Think about it, if God doesn't obey the laws of our universe, then we cannot disprove em using said laws, because God is above those laws.

ALSO: I'm agnostic, but I still don't worship any Gods, mainly because I don't think we should worship a dictator

We can't prove whether a god exists or not, but there are a lot of things we can't "prove" to similarly stringent criteria. I'm about as sure that god exists as I'm sure that Belgium is a real place. I've never been to Belgium and I don't know anyone who has.

Okay, no, bad example because of the evidence thing. I'm about as sure god doesn't exist as I'm sure that Oz, as in "The Wizard Of Oz", isn't a real place. I can't prove it, but if someone says they believe Oz is a real place, or says that they don't know whether or not Oz is a real place and that we can't know for sure, my opinion of them drops quite a bit. That's what theism is like to me.

God might be able to ignore the laws of physics, but that makes the god hypothesis significantly less worthy, because it means it violates occam's razor more. The god hypothesis is an idea in people's heads and is bound to the rules of logic like all the other ideas a human might come up with and get wrong.

Ignatz_Zwakh:
They would'nt have given

Grey Day for Elcia:

Ignatz_Zwakh:
Hitler and his boys would've LOVED the 300.

First of all, in reality there was a lot more than 300 Spartans, and secondly, Hitler and his party would have despised them--they are Greek. Greek is not German. The Nazi's didn't give a fuck about your skin colour or how great of a warrior you are. They saw every single race on Earth as inferior and in need of extermination so the German people could take over.

That wouldn't matter in the context. If the 300 came out as a film in Nazi Germany, Hitler would've adored it. Would've deemed it required viewing. Any film that portrays one entire race of people as monsters and promotes giving your life against them as-I don't even know why I'm arguing this! THIS JUST PROVES THIS IS AN UNPOPULAR OPINION! FUCK!
*Ahem*
You're entitled to whatever you wanna bloody think, but I still stand firm on this. You ever wanna provoke a nation into intense patriotic rage and hatred of another race, pen something like the 300 that's written bloody well and find some way to stick it into the hearts of the men and women of your nation. Then you'll have a country full of "patriots" waiting to give their lives for you against the supposedly common threat.

Calm down, there. No need to caps lock and rage. As I was saying: Hitler wasn't too down with the idea of any race but German being portrayed as anything more than weak, inferior and worthless.

MinimanZombie:

Rowan93:
*snipped*

I never said a God made the universe, I just said it is unlikely that the universe just is. Plus if there is some sort of deity, it doesn't necessarily have to be all powerful/knowing/seeing.

Well, the latter implies the former. Or at least, it implies "a God probably made the universe".
Which I'm saying is wrong, because it's backwards, and it's more likely that the universe "just is" than that any physics-defying creator god exists.

Yeah, omniscience/omnipotence is just a bonus impossibility. It makes what's unlikely to begin with even worse.

Grey Day for Elcia:

Ignatz_Zwakh:
They would'nt have given

Grey Day for Elcia:
First of all, in reality there was a lot more than 300 Spartans, and secondly, Hitler and his party would have despised them--they are Greek. Greek is not German. The Nazi's didn't give a fuck about your skin colour or how great of a warrior you are. They saw every single race on Earth as inferior and in need of extermination so the German people could take over.

That wouldn't matter in the context. If the 300 came out as a film in Nazi Germany, Hitler would've adored it. Would've deemed it required viewing. Any film that portrays one entire race of people as monsters and promotes giving your life against them as-I don't even know why I'm arguing this! THIS JUST PROVES THIS IS AN UNPOPULAR OPINION! FUCK!
*Ahem*
You're entitled to whatever you wanna bloody think, but I still stand firm on this. You ever wanna provoke a nation into intense patriotic rage and hatred of another race, pen something like the 300 that's written bloody well and find some way to stick it into the hearts of the men and women of your nation. Then you'll have a country full of "patriots" waiting to give their lives for you against the supposedly common threat.

Calm down, there. No need to caps lock and rage. As I was saying: Hitler wasn't too down with the idea of any race but German being portrayed as anything more than weak, inferior and worthless.

I never denied that. But I think it hardly matters with a film where the Greeks are portrayed by Anglo-saxons.

Grey Day for Elcia:

Matthew94:
So why should the vegetables be entitled to it if they never paid for it? They will never, ever be able to work so by your logic they should never get healthcare, it seems like you inadvertently agreed with me.

Because they are covered under their parents healthcare (just like you are).

So, if you get hit by a car or something, you shouldn't get any healthcare, yeah? I mean, "Why should [you] be entitled to it if [you] never paid for it?"

Do you not understand how the healthcare and tax systems works? I can help you, if you'd like. I enjoy showing people stuff and helping others learn. Give me a shout and I'll hook you up.

I'm not covered under my parents healthcare, it is wrong to make assumptions like that. I'm from the UK (and I will assume you are not or you are on private healthcare) so everyone is entitled to healthcare and that's where my original statement comes from.

Each person in the UK costs the state money through healthcare and other expenses. Vegetables cost far more than the average person and will never come close to having a rational thought, let alone contributing to society. All that money gets wasted in the quest to keep alive that which will never have a life. The money could instead have gone to someone that could at least have a future.

Grey Day for Elcia:
But wouldn't that mean, in your own mind and with your own logic, you are "immature," "pathetic" and "childish"? If you are one for logical consistency, that is. I think that's a bit harsh. I might disagree with you, but calling yourself any of the above is a tad extreme.

We weren't arguing, I was just outright insulting you. If we were arguing and I fell back on insults then those three terms would apply but I didn't. That isn't to say I'm not those three, just that this case doesn't force them to apply. Don't try and make sense of how I think, though, it's rarely based on logic. My apologies for insulting you though, I just thought that the meme post was too far.

Matthew94:
I think children with severe mental deficiencies (to the point where they aren't conscious of who they are or where they are etc) should either be killed or have all medical care cut off from them.

They don't do anything and cost the government thousands before they die. That money could go to a better cause.

I agree with this. I'd wanna be dead if I was in that state. I'm assuming this doesn't cover people with even severe autism, though? My brother's got autism fairly bad, but he certainly seems to enjoy his life. I don't think killing him would be the right thing to do.

Lessee here...I think all drugs should be legalised and taxed at LOLWUT amounts, religion should slowly and voluntarily be expunged from society, private schools should be illegal, the World Food Program should be shut down, the entire world should (voluntarily and peacefully, of course) be Westernised, all of Africa except for Egypt, Libya, South Africa, and Liberia should be quarantined due to the large amount of disease on that continent, violent/sexual prisoners should be either tortured or experimented upon, American Republicans are fascist, women and blacks are completely equal in today's Western world, children's names should be picked from a government-approved list...I think that about covers it.

I'm also in a dilemma with a budding opinion of mine. I've been thinking about whether or not people with severe, life-ruining diseases should be allowed to breed. On the one hand, good for humanity, on the other hand, horridly oppressive.
By severe, I'm talking about diseases like Marfan's Syndrome, Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, Lupus, AIDS, debilitating Panic Disorder, etc. I'm not a fan of eugenics, but it could end a lot of suffering.

Rowan93:

MinimanZombie:

Rowan93:
*snipped*

I never said a God made the universe, I just said it is unlikely that the universe just is. Plus if there is some sort of deity, it doesn't necessarily have to be all powerful/knowing/seeing.

Well, the latter implies the former. Or at least, it implies "a God probably made the universe".
Which I'm saying is wrong, because it's backwards, and it's more likely that the universe "just is" than that any physics-defying creator god exists.

Yeah, omniscience/omnipotence is just a bonus impossibility. It makes what's unlikely to begin with even worse.

When you think about it, isn't the likelihood of a species being so advanced as to have the technology to see the future and overcome death, pretty damn likely? I'm not religious (at all) but, given how old the universe is and how many planets are out there, it's kinda likely at least one of them has evolved and progressed past the point of human limitations, yeah?

Haseo21:

AnarchistFish:

Haseo21:
Oh snap, I just remembered another one. A lot of people are gonna get mad after I say this.
Ahem...I think dubstep sucks.

Now would this be wubwubwub electro house fake-"dubstep"?
Or real dubstep which uses 2-step drum rhythms?

Because if it's the latter, we have a problem ;)
Anyway this is precisely the reason I hate the misconceptions that have risen around the term "dubstep".

Anything remotely close to Skrillex, Deadmau5, and Blackleg is what I hate. I listened to dubstep, I disliked it, but what got me to hate it was when I'm listening to my Nightcore/Trance albums and someone says "Hurr durr, I like dubstep too." It happened on several occasions.

Yeah the only one of those that sounds vaguely like dubstep is Blackleg :3

Grey Day for Elcia:
When you think about it, isn't the likelihood of a species being so advanced as to have the technology to see the future and overcome death, pretty damn likely?

Maybe, but I'd argue "why would they do that?"

Matthew94:
everyone is entitled to healthcare and that's where my original statement comes from.

Healthcare is funded from taxes. Your argument is people who are currently in a vegetive state (not a word, but w/e, work with me here, lol) are not paying tax and are therefor not entitled to healthcare. Thus, anyone not paying taxes should also not be covered, as they "haven't paid for it."

Boy, I sure hope you work hard enough to cover any healthcare you might use in the future and pay a lotta tax. A shame the unemployed, underaged and retired can't pay tax. Ah well, fuck 'em right?

This just in: wanna live in a community? You do shit like help each other by paying taxes. Don't like that? I suggest finding a nice forest and setting up tent.

Waaghpowa:

Spot1990:
My unpopular opinion? Mostly just because I'm a student and apparently it's a bit of a faux pas to admit this to other students (especially in Ireland) I have certain capitalist leanings. Funny thing is I actually took time between school and college and worked. So I have a bunch of people who have just finished their exams, never worked a day in their life telling me I'm a greedy capitalist pig. "Oh you think taxes should be higher and you're "entitled" to have the government pay your college fees? How 'bout you weigh in after you've actually contributed to this communal pool of resources you're after". I'm not saying you have to wait until you've worked to have an opinion, but you're not allowed attack me for mine 'til you've actually even tried to contribute to society. It's very easy to want socialism when you're the one that has everything to gain and nothing to lose with it. This doesn't apply to all students who disagree with me by the way. Mostly just the ones who drink away their grant money while studying philosophy or something then bitch and moan that anyone dares think maybe this shouldn't be government funded. You're not allowed spend taxpayer money on a round of Jagerbombs and then accuse me of being greedy.

I strongly dislike capitalism, and yet, I work a part time job while paying for college and paying taxes, car insurance, car payments etc. And I live in Canada, where we get 13% sales tax on EVERYTHING.

To be fair, there are those "worthless" people on both sides. The non contributors who call you greedy as well as the actual greedy capitalists who don't necessarily "progress society" so much as they exploit it and everyone in it for personal gain. Like the whole occupy Wallstreet thing. People were angry that the big companies, who were bailed out with tax payer money, weren't giving anything back when it was the tax payers money that saved them from going under. Those are the kinds of things I loathe in capitalism. It's more than possible to make a contribution while making a profit.

Oh I know both sides have their assholes and I wish they'd all just shut up. You are exactly the kind of person I'm not talking about. The reason I said certain capitalist leanings is I'm in favour of certain socialised things and I'm pro social welfare for those who actually are using it to survive, or even if they splash out now and agian on a treat for themselves I see nothing wrong with that. I'm specifically talking about the wasters who don't look for work, piss away their benefits and then complain if anyone thinks maybe they don't deserve it. I'd rather the same amount was paid out in benefits but more went to people who need it to take care of kids. The carers allowance in this country is an absolute joke, hospitals are suffering, there was a referendum to reduce the pay of judges all while a bunch of morons are drinking away money that could be going to much worthier causes.

And the thing about the bailouts is that is decidedly not capitalist. Your company fucked up and now you want the government to cover your asses? These are the same companies that always say the idea of capitalism is to let companies sink or swim on their own (at least that's what they say when companies who aren't them are suffering because of them). Government bailouts are the exact opposite of capitalism. Kinda like when people complain about communism and use China as an example, even I have to say "Yeah, but that's not really how communism should actually be."

Let's see.... Perhaps not too unpopular, but births should be limited to one per parent, or per person. As things are in the first world, population would likely drop some, but that can be compensated for with immigration. Until a point where the worlds population stabilises and perhaps even begins to drop off. Then the restrictions should be lifted again.

Someone who doesn't respect human life does not deserve their own. This is more to do with the reasons behind a killing than the act of killing itself. A man who kills a threat to his family is alright, but a man who kills for pleasure, the thrill, sport, or out of dislike (off the top of my head) should be put down.

Polygamy isn't inherently wrong. It's a lifestyle choice made by some and it works great for the people who knowingly take part in it, and even some of those who don't! You know how some peoples relationships are fine even while one or both partners cheat on each other, and then falls apart only after one or the other finds out about said infidelity? Yea, that's polygamy in a sense. Just not exactly "willing".

Just because I do physics does not automatically make me extremely clever. Every single time I mention what I do to people who don't do a science their opinion of me instantly shifts to a normal person to a really smart one.

Generalisations are fine, useful even! As long as you keep in mind that individuals rarely conform to those. It's hard to explain, but the shape of the thought just makes sense to me.

And that's all I could come up with for now.

Vegosiux:

Grey Day for Elcia:
When you think about it, isn't the likelihood of a species being so advanced as to have the technology to see the future and overcome death, pretty damn likely?

Maybe, but I'd argue "why would they do that?"

Do what? See the future and overcome death? Because it's fucking awesome, duh!

But seriously: why would they not? Give an entire race with the technology and ability to become godlike the opportunity to do so and at least a few peeps are gonna jump on board.

Grey Day for Elcia:

Eddie the head:

Grey Day for Elcia:
First of all, in reality there was a lot more than 300 Spartans, and secondly, Hitler and his party would have despised them--they are Greek. Greek is not German. The Nazi's didn't give a fuck about your skin colour or how great of a warrior you are. They saw every single race on Earth as inferior and in need of extermination so the German people could take over.

If you want it spelled out then he is saying they would have loved the idea of it.

He would have loved the idea of an (in his eyes) inferior race fighting another (in his eyes) inferior race? I don't think you understand what the Nazi Party and Hitler were trying to do.

........ IDEA! of it. Not the literal implication of it.

Eddie the head:

Grey Day for Elcia:

Eddie the head:

If you want it spelled out then he is saying they would have loved the idea of it.

He would have loved the idea of an (in his eyes) inferior race fighting another (in his eyes) inferior race? I don't think you understand what the Nazi Party and Hitler were trying to do.

........ IDEA! of it. Not the literal implication of it.

The "IDEA!" of an inferior race being killed by another inferior race? Why?

JCBFGD:

Matthew94:
I think children with severe mental deficiencies (to the point where they aren't conscious of who they are or where they are etc) should either be killed or have all medical care cut off from them.

They don't do anything and cost the government thousands before they die. That money could go to a better cause.

I agree with this. I'd wanna be dead if I was in that state. I'm assuming this doesn't cover people with even severe autism, though? My brother's got autism fairly bad, but he certainly seems to enjoy his life. I don't think killing him would be the right thing to do.

Yes, I mean the ones who end up in a wheelchair with a carer 24/7 because they cannot master basic functions and have no mental ability at all. You know the kind I'm talking about, the people who live in a vegetative state.

Matthew94:
I think children with severe mental deficiencies (to the point where they aren't conscious of who they are or where they are etc) should either be killed or have all medical care cut off from them.

They don't do anything and cost the government thousands before they die. That money could go to a better cause.

*Flame shield up*

That.
And I don't think gays should be allowed to be married. Nothing against the gays, it's just marriage is all to do with various religious sources, most of which are against the gays. It's like a man turning up to a female-only swimming class, nothing against the man, but you just don't belong here. They should be allowed to get all the benefits of marriage (financial-wise), but if the various groups of people don't want to marry gays, that's there own damn business.

Oh, I also dislike anything Bioware...

Grey Day for Elcia:

Matthew94:
everyone is entitled to healthcare and that's where my original statement comes from.

Healthcare is funded from taxes. Your argument is people who are currently in a vegetive state (not a word, but w/e, work with me here, lol) are not paying tax and are therefor not entitled to healthcare. Thus, anyone not paying taxes should also not be covered, as they "haven't paid for it."

Boy, I sure hope you work hard enough to cover any healthcare you might use in the future and pay a lotta tax. A shame the unemployed, underaged and retired can't pay tax. Ah well, fuck 'em right?

This just in: wanna live in a community? You do shit like help each other by paying taxes. Don't like that? I suggest finding a nice forest and setting up tent.

That's the thing, young people will most likely join the work force in the future and begin to pay taxes (other than the VAT they already pay on goods) and most elderly people will have worked for a long time which is why they get benefits. Unless they are scroungers, unemployed people generally try to find work and do not stay unemployed their entire lives.

The same cannot be said of vegetables. They will leach off the state from the minute they are born until they are dead and will never pay back a single penny in taxes, ever.

Also, vegetative is a word. Hell, it's even classified as a disorder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_vegetative_state

bojackx:
They should be allowed to get all the benefits of marriage (financial-wise), but if the various groups of people don't want to marry gays, that's there own damn business.

You don't know what marriage is. It has nothing at all to do with religion; it's a legal contract you sign with the government. The wedding part can be a religious ceremony, but marriage is as far removed from religion as registering a car.

Rowan93:

MinimanZombie:

Rowan93:
*snipped*

I never said a God made the universe, I just said it is unlikely that the universe just is. Plus if there is some sort of deity, it doesn't necessarily have to be all powerful/knowing/seeing.

Well, the latter implies the former. Or at least, it implies "a God probably made the universe".
Which I'm saying is wrong, because it's backwards, and it's more likely that the universe "just is" than that any physics-defying creator god exists.

Yeah, omniscience/omnipotence is just a bonus impossibility. It makes what's unlikely to begin with even worse.

*Sighs* Fine. Lets just say you can believe what you believe and I can believe what I believe (Which to be fair is a mix of science of religion).

Matthew94:

Grey Day for Elcia:

Matthew94:
everyone is entitled to healthcare and that's where my original statement comes from.

Healthcare is funded from taxes. Your argument is people who are currently in a vegetive state (not a word, but w/e, work with me here, lol) are not paying tax and are therefor not entitled to healthcare. Thus, anyone not paying taxes should also not be covered, as they "haven't paid for it."

Boy, I sure hope you work hard enough to cover any healthcare you might use in the future and pay a lotta tax. A shame the unemployed, underaged and retired can't pay tax. Ah well, fuck 'em right?

This just in: wanna live in a community? You do shit like help each other by paying taxes. Don't like that? I suggest finding a nice forest and setting up tent.

That's the thing, young people will most likely join the work force in the future and begin to pay taxes (other than the VAT they already pay on goods) and most elderly people will have worked for a long time which is why they get benefits. Unless they are scroungers, unemployed people generally try to find work and do not stay unemployed their entire lives.

The same cannot be said of vegetables. They will leach off the state from the minute they are born until they are dead and will never pay back a single penny in taxes, ever.

Also, vegetative is a word. Hell, it's even classified as a disorder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_vegetative_state

Ooohhh, so if someone is unlikely to be able to pay taxes at some point, they deserve to be left to die, as human life is only worth what it can give back to the state. Ah okay. I get ya.

Let me know when you grow out of that mentality.

I think religion is pretty fucking awesome, even though I am an atheist. (Except Islam)

Skyrim is completely mediocre but it has good grafix!

Music now is just as good/crap as it was before! Just a matter of 30 years or so until we forget all the shit and remember the good stuff, and just reminisce about how awesome was music back then! (Shut up, this it 100% true)

I hate homosexual, transgender, just any LGBT community ever. Don't be pissed at me for not wanting you in my community if you keep being a bunch of loners, pushing away anyone who tries to get into your own little clubs.

I think fat people who whine about their own weight suck. Seriously, fuck you, go to the fucking gym or something, nobody needs to hear you whine about something that can be fixed with a little effort.

I think the new captcha is even worse than the first one.

Really, captcha is telling me "high horse". Go to hell captcha, I will stay on my tall, handsome horse for as much as I like.

Matthew94:

Grey Day for Elcia:

Matthew94:
everyone is entitled to healthcare and that's where my original statement comes from.

Healthcare is funded from taxes. Your argument is people who are currently in a vegetive state (not a word, but w/e, work with me here, lol) are not paying tax and are therefor not entitled to healthcare. Thus, anyone not paying taxes should also not be covered, as they "haven't paid for it."

Boy, I sure hope you work hard enough to cover any healthcare you might use in the future and pay a lotta tax. A shame the unemployed, underaged and retired can't pay tax. Ah well, fuck 'em right?

This just in: wanna live in a community? You do shit like help each other by paying taxes. Don't like that? I suggest finding a nice forest and setting up tent.

That's the thing, young people will most likely join the work force in the future and begin to pay taxes (other than the VAT they already pay on goods) and most elderly people will have worked for a long time which is why they get benefits. Unless they are scroungers, unemployed people generally try to find work and do not stay unemployed their entire lives.

The same cannot be said of vegetables. They will leach off the state from the minute they are born until they are dead and will never pay back a single penny in taxes, ever.

Also, vegetative is a word. Hell, it's even classified as a disorder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_vegetative_state

The point of paying taxes into the government so that the government will in return provide free services is that we help those incapable of paying for those services. The idea is that we don't value people by how much the contribute to society, but rather we recognise that they are human and are deserving of things like health-care because they are human.

Here's a question, why should a "vegetable" (do we have to use that term? It seems very dehumanising) who is rich be allowed to live, but a poor person not be allowed to (because they/their family can't afford healthcare)?

Spot1990:
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I mentioned the bailouts more as an implication of the hypocrisy surrounding capitalism. They're all for exploiting and manipulating people for profit, a kind of financial survival of the fittest if you will, but then they'll turn around and accept a government bail out when shit goes belly up. As you said, capitalists would just accept the company dying as being part of the process. As I mentioned, what pissed me, and a lot of other people off, regarding the bail out is the lack of return. If there's one thing from Marx I agree with, it's infrastructure. Wealth would not be accumulated if not for the infrastructure of which the foundations for your success was built on.

We can probably boil all this down to a cynical view of humanity. People in general are hypocritical and exploitative, regardless of your political/financial leanings.

im loving this thread. lots of awesome/hilarious opinions. i agree mostly with the OP as well.

as for unpopular opinions of mine:

1. i hate all loyalists - whether it be for country, for corporation or other. there is no need to blindly follow any large group or authority, doing so makes you nothing but a mindless zombie. think for your damn self and consider every option and choice logically before you decide.

2. I love death metal and black metal. it seems to be very unpopular and i'm actually glad for that. if it were popular it probably wouldn't be as important to me. the lyrical themes and horror/aggressive mood is amazing, which leads me to my next part.

3. religion is the single worst thing to happen to our society. i wish that my opinion was the popular one and that religion was the unpopular choice... for reasons already said a million times by the few and the great. i have one last disclaimer for you all: read the book first before you start preaching.

Grey Day for Elcia:

Matthew94:

Grey Day for Elcia:
Healthcare is funded from taxes. Your argument is people who are currently in a vegetive state (not a word, but w/e, work with me here, lol) are not paying tax and are therefor not entitled to healthcare. Thus, anyone not paying taxes should also not be covered, as they "haven't paid for it."

Boy, I sure hope you work hard enough to cover any healthcare you might use in the future and pay a lotta tax. A shame the unemployed, underaged and retired can't pay tax. Ah well, fuck 'em right?

This just in: wanna live in a community? You do shit like help each other by paying taxes. Don't like that? I suggest finding a nice forest and setting up tent.

That's the thing, young people will most likely join the work force in the future and begin to pay taxes (other than the VAT they already pay on goods) and most elderly people will have worked for a long time which is why they get benefits. Unless they are scroungers, unemployed people generally try to find work and do not stay unemployed their entire lives.

The same cannot be said of vegetables. They will leach off the state from the minute they are born until they are dead and will never pay back a single penny in taxes, ever.

Also, vegetative is a word. Hell, it's even classified as a disorder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_vegetative_state

Ooohhh, so if someone is unlikely to be able to pay taxes at some point, they deserve to be left to die, as human life is only worth what it can give back to the state. Ah okay. I get ya.

Let me know when you grow out of that mentality.

No, I didn't say that. Try to actually argue instead of using strawmen.

I said they will never do anything except leach large amount of money, more than anyone else in society. They require constant care and won't ever contribute anything to anyone ever. They won't be able to communicate ideas, do work or anything like that. They will literally do nothing good and solely exist to cost money well in excess of anyone else.

deathzero021:
3. religion is the single worst thing to happen to our society.

Hey, now! No! Just no!

Obviously Nickelback is the worst thing to ever happen to our society.

Grey Day for Elcia:

Rowan93:

MinimanZombie:

I never said a God made the universe, I just said it is unlikely that the universe just is. Plus if there is some sort of deity, it doesn't necessarily have to be all powerful/knowing/seeing.

Well, the latter implies the former. Or at least, it implies "a God probably made the universe".
Which I'm saying is wrong, because it's backwards, and it's more likely that the universe "just is" than that any physics-defying creator god exists.

Yeah, omniscience/omnipotence is just a bonus impossibility. It makes what's unlikely to begin with even worse.

When you think about it, isn't the likelihood of a species being so advanced as to have the technology to see the future and overcome death, pretty damn likely? I'm not religious (at all) but, given how old the universe is and how many planets are out there, it's kinda likely at least one of them has evolved and progressed past the point of human limitations, yeah?

I wouldn't call such a being a god. It's almost certain that billions of beings exist out there with "godlike" technological abilities, but technology has to work with what it's already got, and what it's made from, so it can't be supernatural, and so by my definitions that would mean no technological being can become a god.

And since we're on the topic, I also think that if this universe is a simulation, the creators of the simulation don't count as gods, and if a god exists in the simulation then that's just cheating, and I'm still pretty sure no god exists on the... outermost universe? Real universe? Whichever word you'd use for that.

Grey Day for Elcia:
The "IDEA!" of an inferior race being killed by another inferior race? Why?

That's not the ideology behind it that's what literally happening. The Spartans where pretty much fascists so where the Nazis there ideology would be close. Why is that hard to get? Now I got to go travel across the country. Good bye and I am not going to respond to your next attack.

Matthew94:
words 'n' stuff

I don't think you understand what a strawman is.

You: "They will leach off the state from the minute they are born."

Me: "Human life is only worth what it can give back to the state."

Don't try to change your words after you've said them, silly billy.

orangeban:

Matthew94:

Grey Day for Elcia:
Healthcare is funded from taxes. Your argument is people who are currently in a vegetive state (not a word, but w/e, work with me here, lol) are not paying tax and are therefor not entitled to healthcare. Thus, anyone not paying taxes should also not be covered, as they "haven't paid for it."

Boy, I sure hope you work hard enough to cover any healthcare you might use in the future and pay a lotta tax. A shame the unemployed, underaged and retired can't pay tax. Ah well, fuck 'em right?

This just in: wanna live in a community? You do shit like help each other by paying taxes. Don't like that? I suggest finding a nice forest and setting up tent.

That's the thing, young people will most likely join the work force in the future and begin to pay taxes (other than the VAT they already pay on goods) and most elderly people will have worked for a long time which is why they get benefits. Unless they are scroungers, unemployed people generally try to find work and do not stay unemployed their entire lives.

The same cannot be said of vegetables. They will leach off the state from the minute they are born until they are dead and will never pay back a single penny in taxes, ever.

Also, vegetative is a word. Hell, it's even classified as a disorder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_vegetative_state

The point of paying taxes into the government so that the government will in return provide free services is that we help those incapable of paying for those services. The idea is that we don't value people by how much the contribute to society, but rather we recognise that they are human and are deserving of things like health-care because they are human.

Here's a question, why should a "vegetable" (do we have to use that term? It seems very dehumanising) who is rich be allowed to live, but a poor person not be allowed to (because they/their family can't afford healthcare)?

Firstly, how did the vegetable earn money? If you are talking about someone who earned money then became a vegetable then they should be entitled to it seeing as they were contributing before their unfortunate demise. If they earned a lot of money then it seems rational to think they paid a lot of it in taxes too.

If it was someone who was a vegetable and was handed lots of money they should be able to use that money to fund their healthcare.

My original point was towards people born with the illness, I hope you read it and didn't just jump on midway.

Rowan93:
God does not exist, and when I discover someone believes in god my respect of them drops considerably.

Yeah, that's a pretty common "upopular opinion", but still.

For a less common unpopular opinion... When I heard that Newt Gingrich promised a moon base by the end of his second term, I decided if he actually meant that, I didn't care what his other policies were.
And that's actually true, if a potential leader (I'm not American, so I should probably be talking about hypothetical Prime Ministers so it's my own country's freedom on the line) promised a permanent moon base in eight years, and could be trusted to deliver on that, I wouldn't care if the candidate was actually Adolf Hitler, I would vote for him and advise any Jewish or homosexual friends of mine to flee while they can.

So yeah, I guess I either care that little for other people's lives, or that much about space. Probably a bit of both.

Oh, one more, which I'm not sure if it's unpopular or not: The singularity is near. I put about a 50% chance on "by the mid-2030s".

You don't respect people for believing in God yet you would have voted for somebody based on the fact that they promised a moonbase in 8 years?

Sorry, but that is just... that is just plain stupid.

deathzero021:
im loving this thread. lots of awesome/hilarious opinions. i agree mostly with the OP as well.

as for unpopular opinions of mine:

1. i hate all loyalists - whether it be for country, for corporation or other. there is no need to blindly follow any large group or authority, doing so makes you nothing but a mindless zombie. think for your damn self and consider every option and choice logically before you decide.

2. I love death metal and black metal. it seems to be very unpopular and i'm actually glad for that. if it were popular it probably wouldn't be as important to me. the lyrical themes and horror/aggressive mood is amazing, which leads me to my next part.

3. religion is the single worst thing to happen to our society. i wish that my opinion was the popular one and that religion was the unpopular choice... for reasons already said a million times by the few and the great. i have one last disclaimer for you all: read the book first before you start preaching.

1. Not everybody can lead. By your standards, more than half the world are blind sheeple loyalists.

2. You never see Death Metal or Black Metal bands winning any musical awards ever. Why is that? Because it's all the same. Some guy throwing out random riffs on a guitar while another guy screams incoherently into a microphone.

3. Fine, would you rather people butcher each other "For Science!" instead of "For the glory of God!"? Because religion doesn't make people more violent or stupid, people are just like that to begin with, and always will be.

MinimanZombie:

Rowan93:

MinimanZombie:

I never said a God made the universe, I just said it is unlikely that the universe just is. Plus if there is some sort of deity, it doesn't necessarily have to be all powerful/knowing/seeing.

Well, the latter implies the former. Or at least, it implies "a God probably made the universe".
Which I'm saying is wrong, because it's backwards, and it's more likely that the universe "just is" than that any physics-defying creator god exists.

Yeah, omniscience/omnipotence is just a bonus impossibility. It makes what's unlikely to begin with even worse.

*Sighs* Fine. Lets just say you can believe what you believe and I can believe what I believe (Which to be fair is a mix of science of religion).

The whole concept of "let's agree to disagree" is a pet peeve of mine, but on the other hand I don't really care enough to pursue it further, just to defend my own position, so yeah.

Grey Day for Elcia:
Calm down, there. No need to caps lock and rage. As I was saying: Hitler wasn't too down with the idea of any race but German being portrayed as anything more than weak, inferior and worthless.

That's not true, he promoted the Aryan race, not the German race. There is a marked difference.

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