"We had a way harder life than you!"

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Have you ever heard this from your parents when you were growing up? Maybe when you did bad at something, like school, and you tell them that you tried your best, but they come up with some snappy response like "You ONLY studied for 5 hours for ONE test. I had to memorize the entire textbook, and they were twice as thick back then!"

Is the statement really true though? Is "Our current life" easier than what it was back then? Or is it actually harder, and they're just trying to push us? Sure, we have way more/better technology than back then, but is that really a positive point? Or does it just make things more complex?

What do you guys think? Did we have it better back then, or do we have it better now, even though there are way more options in our life?

I shut them up by telling them it's called progress and human advancement.

Matthew94:
I shut them up by telling them it's called progress and human advancement.

Believe me, I've tried the "Advancement" argument as well. Goes into the whole "You need good habits to live a good life" discussion.

If it was so fucking hard for the previous generation why are they complaining about us, other than out of spite? You should be happy your kids don't have to suffer the same hardships you did.

Of course they had it harder.

When my dad was growing up everything was black and white, how the frack they could tell what was what without any colour i'll never know.

Also water was wetter, snow was colder and they had to walk to and from school uphill both ways ... wearing clogs.

They most likely did have it harder.

Lucky for us, things are better now.

Not in every single fashion, every single time. But for the most part.

Almost all the older people in my family did have a harder life than me. But they never moan about it or use it against me. Both they and I are happy I'm in a better position.
And, to be honest, hearing about some of the stuff my parents/grandparents went through and worked through kinda makes me feel bad for being lazy.

My dad is keen to remind me that in the good ol' days, [Insert relevant example here]
I tend to remind him that times have changed from 50 years ago.

My dad grew up in a house without electricity.

Mind you im 31 and he is 60 :)

Things are easier for everyone these days and thats a great thing

Well, they mostly had it worse. And probably complained less.

I love how this generation really seems to have everything but keeps pretending the end is nigh.

Think of the seventies: Oil Crisis, Vietnam War, Cold War (actual possibility of Apocalypse). And back then they thought a new ice age was upon them. Still had less little dipsh*ts who hate mankind walking around.

I suppose you could say they had it harder.

But here's the thing; humans will ALWAYS find something to complain about. I honestly doubt that people are happier today than they were 40 years ago. A lot of people don't get that. They look at things and say, 'you have it so good!' without realizing that if they were brought up in this way they'd probably be complaining about the same things.

overpuce:
I agree with them because them moved over here to escape the Vietnam war. (They are South Vietnamese and lived in Saigon).

Besides any arguement would soundly be ignored by them or countered with punishment. Damn strict Asian parents.

"Your online name is "overpuce"? Why not averpuce?"

Sorry. 'Just felt I had to...

Hazy992:
If it was so fucking hard for the previous generation why are they complaining about us, other than out of spite? You should be happy your kids don't have to suffer the same hardships you did.

This. You're going to miserable because I was too! Yeah, that makes sense!

IamQ:
"Your online name is "overpuce"? Why not averpuce?"

Sorry. 'Just felt I had to...

I suppose my name should be Nauw then :P.

overpuce:
I agree with them because them moved over here to escape the Vietnam war. (They are South Vietnamese and lived in Saigon).

Besides any arguement would soundly be ignored by them or countered with punishment. Damn strict Asian parents.

You should tell them that they had it easy compared to all the vietnemese people who didnt get a golden ticket to america

unstabLized:
"You ONLY studied for 5 hours for ONE test. I had to memorize the entire textbook, and they were twice as thick back then!"

And yet they still don't know any better, must be all the irrelevant filler that clogged their books, the whole point of evolution is to cut the crap to save time and effort

... they didn't even mention whether they passed xD

Captcha: describe "at&t" with any words - "crap"

Its always amusing to hear people say that to a child, since its already been proven roughly 5000 times now that school is 10 times as stressful nowadays.

I only heard it on the front of how college work and research was done in their day- that I have it far easier now and that I shouldn't complain about how "hard" it is to write my papers with something like the internet, and all its information at my fingertips.

Which is... absolutely true. My parents had to look through card catelogs and didn't have near instant communication with their professors and other inputs and sources of information. That's been the only thing I've conceded, without argument, on. Everything else, from school life and other issues usually involve answers found in long, branching discussions of different contributing factors.

I would say they had it easier, the economy wasn't shit and they didn't have as much trouble finding a job.

With all the advantages that kids have today (the internet, social media, video chatting, etc.), there is absolutely no reason that these kids can get any lower than a C in any subject in school (speaking in terms of the K-12 system).

My father had it terrible growing up. Abusive stepdad, forced to work for the family for money, not allowed to play sports or go to college, and then shunned by half of his family when they stopped identifying as Jehovah's Witnesses.

But he never held that over me and my sister when we were growing up, and just wanted the best for us.

I will say, however, that we had it a lot harder than kids these days. All we had was usenet and the internet would disconnect when someone picked up the phone, lol.

Caligulove:
My parents had to look through card catelogs and didn't have near instant communication with their professors and other inputs and sources of information.

Damn straight. I'm slightly too young to be your parent, but I'm old enough to remember when I had to use card catalogs. Want a book?

When you eventually found the card for the book you wanted, was it on the shelf? Hah! WHO KNEW? Have fun trudging through the stacks to figure out what was actually shelved and what was checked out or on loan to another library.

Leaving aside books for a minute...did you want to find an article from a magazine or a journal? YOU POOR BASTARD. Say hello to your new best friend:

This was it. There was no automated searching. I didn't see a computer with a searchable article database until 1988 at the earliest. You had to sit with this ungainly fucker at a table and manually look up articles for your subject year by year.

Then, once you've located the article you want, pray that the library a.) carries that periodical, and b.) has holdings for the year you need. Then, if you're very lucky, you'll be able to get the actual issue of the magazine or journal and pay an ungodly amount in photocopying fees to get the article. If you're unlucky, you'll get to use the microfiche or (sweet zombie Jesus help you) microfilm readers.

Academic research is so much easier now, you can't even imagine.

Rawne1980:
Of course they had it harder.

When my dad was growing up everything was black and white, how the frack they could tell what was what without any colour i'll never know.

Also water was wetter, snow was colder and they had to walk to and from school uphill both ways ... wearing clogs.

Don't forget they also had to kick the rooster in the ass to get it to crow in the morning, fight the bear to get to that hill that goes to school, and jumped in freezing lakes to get fish for dinner.

OT: I find it interesting to hear how hard it was for them "back in the day", although if I have to hear it from some total stranger I will be less inclined to listen. Don't really know why, but it always comes across as preachy. In any case, it makes me appreciate how good I have it now, even though I want to call BS at times.

TehCookie:
I would say they had it easier, the economy wasn't shit and they didn't have as much trouble finding a job.

For the UK in the 70's this was the complete opposite. Major strikes up and down the country (which actually brought the country and families to their knees. Frequent power cuts and in some cases they simply switched the electricity off at night. Mothers giving up their meals so they could put food on the table for their kids.

More people unemployed than there are now in Britain. A recession that looked even bleaker than it does now.

Today's children, I (i'm 24 but still...), have not had to endure the same hardships as my parents. Who in turn did not suffer as much as their parents and so on and so on.

With each generation, life becomes more and more convenient. Transport gets better, average pay gets better, housing quality gets better, entertainment gets better, education gets better, state benefits (used to) get better and so on...

Many young people take this completely for granted, and they are the ones who eventually realise and then turn to their kids and say, "things were harder in my day" when they see their children acting like brats. And guess what? They are simply seeing their younger selves reflected back at them...

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Its always amusing to hear people say that to a child, since its already been proven roughly 5000 times now that school is 10 times as stressful nowadays.

It is?!

There was capital punishment in my fathers day, and the standards for tests were higher. Even at my age im scoffing at how the Irish version of the SAT's have gotten easier in the last ten years. Not to mention a hell of a lot of more outreach and social support programmes to keep kids and help them talk to people.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Its always amusing to hear people say that to a child, since its already been proven roughly 5000 times now that school is 10 times as stressful nowadays.

Tempted to say kids are just 10 times more easily stressed due to having less of the other first world problems...

But seriously, kids can grow up at their leisure these days. 30 year old's still living with mum and dad isn't that uncommon these days... Housing crisis not unaccounted for.

chiefohara:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Its always amusing to hear people say that to a child, since its already been proven roughly 5000 times now that school is 10 times as stressful nowadays.

It is?!

There was capital punishment in my fathers day, and the standards for tests were higher. Even at my age im scoffing at how the Irish version of the SAT's have gotten easier in the last ten years. Not to mention a hell of a lot of more outreach and social support programmes to keep kids and help them talk to people.

Yes, it is.

I cant remember any sites that back this stuff up, I read it in books, so I cant link you, but if you do a bit of digging you should be able to find one of the various studies.

SmashLovesTitanQuest:

chiefohara:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Its always amusing to hear people say that to a child, since its already been proven roughly 5000 times now that school is 10 times as stressful nowadays.

It is?!

There was capital punishment in my fathers day, and the standards for tests were higher. Even at my age im scoffing at how the Irish version of the SAT's have gotten easier in the last ten years. Not to mention a hell of a lot of more outreach and social support programmes to keep kids and help them talk to people.

Yes, it is.

I cant remember any sites that back this stuff up, I read it in books, so I cant link you, but if you do a bit of digging you should be able to find one of the various studies.

Fair enough, you've peaked my curiosity. Thanks!

Writing a term paper pre-internet would have been a nightmare. In school, mine was probably the last generation to be instructed on the proper use of a card catalog and dewey decimal system. I'm very grateful that I never had to use that skill.

zelda2fanboy:
Writing a term paper pre-internet would have been a nightmare. In school, mine was probably the last generation to be instructed on the proper use of a card catalog and dewey decimal system. I'm very grateful that I never had to use that skill.

Nah us old guys just went to the library & used the encyclopedias. *grabs cane & hobbles out*

overpuce:
I agree with them because them moved over here to escape the Vietnam war. (They are South Vietnamese and lived in Saigon).

Besides any arguement would soundly be ignored by them or countered with punishment. Damn strict Asian parents.

I feel your pain, brother. My parents are exactly the same, Asian and obnoxiously arrogant (I love alliteration).

OT: Whenever anyone, not just my parents, tries to use this argument I point out that this isn't a "who had the worse life" contest.

Just because you had a dark and edgy past, it doesn't justify you being an asshat. Of course I don't do this to my parents, because if I did, I'd get kicked out of the house. *SIGH*

RubyT:
Well, they mostly had it worse. And probably complained less.

I love how this generation really seems to have everything but keeps pretending the end is nigh.

Think of the seventies: Oil Crisis, Vietnam War, Cold War (actual possibility of Apocalypse). And back then they thought a new ice age was upon them. Still had less little dipsh*ts who hate mankind walking around.

This a thousand times.

Of course they had it harder, just like we'll say the same thing to the next generations. It must be frustrating from the point of view of someone who is 40+ to see a teenage dipshit complain because his Ipod's run out of charge or because they have 900 channels with nothing on.

And I picture in 20 years I'll be bitter about my children's friends complaining about The Universal Hive Mind 'being slow'. People take what they have for granted. This is a beautiful time to be alive.

zelda2fanboy:
Writing a term paper pre-internet would have been a nightmare. In school, mine was probably the last generation to be instructed on the proper use of a card catalog and dewey decimal system. I'm very grateful that I never had to use that skill.

I'm with you there. We had to use this in grade school; it wasn't until junior high that the district converted over to using computers. In the good 'ol days, index cards were the pinnacle of progress.

I think we were also one of the first years, maybe the second, to use computers to type papers. You complain about the text justifying now? Back then we had to justify it manually. And we had dial switches to decide which computer got to be connected to the printer.

At least I haven't had to endure the shaming of the older generations. My parents and grandparents are glad to share their stories of how they had it, but didn't try to make me and my siblings feel bad for not having an arm broken starting the Model T.

NuclearShadow:

But beyond tech advancement we are in a age of poor economies, more higher education people than the job market needs, terrorism, and many other problems we face today. It isn't that they had it easier they just had other problems fitting their times and we have ours.

ALL of these things are not new developments you know - with possible exception of the education issue.

I hear this all the time from my parents. I've blocked out the "When I was your age" and "If I did that I would have..." comments a long, long time ago.

Raven's Nest:

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
Its always amusing to hear people say that to a child, since its already been proven roughly 5000 times now that school is 10 times as stressful nowadays.

Tempted to say kids are just 10 times more easily stressed due to having less of the other first world problems...

But seriously, kids can grow up at their leisure these days. 30 year old's still living with mum and dad isn't that uncommon these days... Housing crisis not unaccounted for.

Well, if you want to talk about housing situations and moving out... Back in the day families just lived in the same house. Men never moved out their parents house. When women got married they moved to their husbands house which wasnt really their husbands house... Ya know. Etc etc.

30 year olds living with mom and dad was much more common 30 or 50 years ago than it is now, or at least I suspect its that way.

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