Cop goes to wrong house, shoots owners dog.

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http://news.yahoo.com/video/austinkvuetv-15750583/apd-police-chief-apologizes-for-dog-shooting-28985811.html

The officer went in with his weapon already drawn, didn't even let the owner have a chance to calm his dog down.

What do you guys think?

EDIT: The owner could not restrain the dog because he was held at gun point. The owner even told the officer that the dog would not hurt him.

I think police officers need to stop shooting dogs.

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I think America needs to bring in some new rules and regs.

Every time one of it's "fine" law enforcement officers do something stupid they should be left in a room with a group of old dears and their hand bags.

Although I hear about a lot of stupid shit so I can see the police force dropping in numbers due to lots of sick leave from concussion.

I'd just say "lol, what a Muppet" but then I'd get done for a low content post.

I guess I'll add that he should face disciplinary action. Perhaps a written warning (or yank equivalent) and apologise to the owner?

Sorry, guys, but this is literally the perfect time to post this song. I doubt a better opportunity will come up.

Oh my god a human being made a mistake, you are kidding me. Yeah I thought the rest of us are perfect. That is the final straw, time to make a "lets kill all cops thread." May your torches burn bright and your pitchforks pointy, it's cop killing time. Everyone on this planet signed a pact to be perfect, I won't stand a glitch in the system. Almost can't type right now because my perfect world is falling apart. Lets put the joking aside and say he made a mistake, will probably feel bad for a long time.

Wow, he was....a bit aggressive. That being said, I'd be pretty upset if an officer shot my dog. :\

Shawn MacDonald:
Oh my god a human being made a mistake, you are kidding me. Yeah I thought the rest of us are perfect. That is the final straw, time to make a "lets kill all cops thread." May your torches burn bright and your pitchforks pointy, it's cop killing time. Everyone on this planet signed a pact to be perfect, I won't stand a glitch in the system. Almost can't type right now because my perfect world is falling apart. Lets put the joking aside and say he made a mistake, will probably feel bad for a long time.

A mistake is giving someone a cup of coffee when they asked for tea.

A mistake is not walking into the wrong house and shooting their dog in the face.

While it is hilariously easy to mock it is a little bit more than an "oops sorry, wrong house mate" type of situation.

Further details (and text article, and what appears to be an unedited dashcam video): http://kutnews.org/post/details-emerge-police-shooting-cisco-pet-dog?nopop=1

Okay so, first thing the cop does is order the man to put his hands up. What caused him to issue this order? Did Paxton appear to be a threat?

Then, in conflict with his first order, he tells the man "get your dog." However, he shoots the dog less than a second afterward, right after saying "dog."

Did he not see the dog at first? This would explain the conflicting orders. The dog must've been rushing toward the officer, otherwise there would've been more time between the order to restrain the mutt and the shooting.

Now put yourself into the officer's shoes: you're confronting a man you don't know, and a dog you don't know, and the dog is rushing toward you. The man, for all you know, just finished beating up his girlfriend. The dog, you know nothing about, it could even be a fighting dog. The dog is barking and running full tilt at you. You have half a second to react.

Even if the dog is friendly, if he jumps on you that's going to be distracting, may even cause you accidentally fire your weapon if you have it drawn (and watching the video further, he did already had it drawn), and would also provide an opening for the man to either escape or attack you. And if the dog isn't friendly, well...

It's tragic, to be sure, but I'm not really sure I can blame the officer.

evilneko:
Further details (and text article, and what appears to be an unedited dashcam video): http://kutnews.org/post/details-emerge-police-shooting-cisco-pet-dog?nopop=1

Okay so, first thing the cop does is order the man to put his hands up. What caused him to issue this order? Did Paxton appear to be a threat?

Then, in conflict with his first order, he tells the man "get your dog." However, he shoots the dog less than a second afterward, right after saying "dog."

Did he not see the dog at first? This would explain the conflicting orders. The dog must've been rushing toward the officer, otherwise there would've been more time between the order to restrain the mutt and the shooting.

Now put yourself into the officer's shoes: you're confronting a man you don't know, and a dog you don't know, and the dog is rushing toward you. The man, for all you know, just finished beating up his girlfriend. The dog, you know nothing about, it could even be a fighting dog. The dog is barking and running full tilt at you. You have half a second to react.

Even if the dog is friendly, if he jumps on you that's going to be distracting, may even cause you accidentally fire your weapon if you have it drawn (and watching the video further, he did already had it drawn), and would also provide an opening for the man to either escape or attack you. And if the dog isn't friendly, well...

It's tragic, to be sure, but I'm not really sure I can blame the officer.

...except that it was the wrong house

In addition, the owner has little to no time for reaction once he sees the officer and the officer trying to blame him for the dog being shot is reprehensible.

DaKiller:

...except that it was the wrong house

This part is irrelevant.

In addition, the owner has little to no time for reaction once he sees the officer and the officer trying to blame him for the dog being shot is reprehensible.

I don't think he's really trying to blame the owner. You've never said anything like that after you've done something that went bad? Notice how he didn't voice any of his complaints to the other officers or his supe.

Well this story is just kind of there I guess. I the owner deserves some compensation after losing his pooch though. And the dick version of me thinks tht this story would be hilarious if the dog was a chihuahua though. :P

If Call of Duty Modern Warfare ever taught me anything, it's that you shoot the dogs first, because they're a helluva lot more deadly than the humans.

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How awesome is that?

Too aggressive. Dogs don't attack quite that easily.

The only thing you can blame this officer for is entering the wrong house. Otherwise he did what any officer would do in that situation, even if it was the right house. Why can't people accept the fact that even police officers make mistakes?

evilneko:

DaKiller:

...except that it was the wrong house

This part is irrelevant.

In addition, the owner has little to no time for reaction once he sees the officer and the officer trying to blame him for the dog being shot is reprehensible.

I don't think he's really trying to blame the owner. You've never said anything like that after you've done something that went bad? Notice how he didn't voice any of his complaints to the other officers or his supe.

It is actually very relevant that he went to the wrong house, it is perhaps the biggest reason that the dog is dead right now.

I'm not saying that all cops are bad or that he intended the dog to die, but his negligence in responding to a call about a disturbance does require some form of penalization.

He should not have had his weapon drawn on someone who is unarmed and walking out of a different house than the one he received the call for and even accidents have consequences, I know because when I've done something bad by accident I still end up in trouble.

The department can give him some money to buy a new dog. What they should worry about more is going to the right fucking house.

Yeah I saw this when it popped up.

Ugh.

Its pretty obvious racism against grayish dogs. I bet if the dog was a french poodle he'd be walkin' today.

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Don't cops have training for dealing with dogs? You'd think so. What if a police dog loses control? Or a drug dealer keeps some vicious dogs in his house?

The cop should at least be suspended and removed from that kind of duty. Take away his firearm and have him slapping up traffic tickets for a few years.

Final First:
The only thing you can blame this officer for is entering the wrong house. Otherwise he did what any officer would do in that situation, even if it was the right house. Why can't people accept the fact that even police officers make mistakes?

In a situation like this a police officer is genuinely frightened because, based on the information given and how he's carried it out, he's dealing with what he believes is a dangerous individual, and training kicks in.

That said, the officer should apologize in person to the dog's owner, and ask if there's anything he can do to make amends. It's a hugely emotional and unfair experience for the owner, and I imagine there'd be a lot of anger and frustration... the least they could do is make an effort on an emotional level.

Oh, that's terrible
The officer shouldn't have shot unless the dog was actually attacking him, not just barking
Then again, he would have expected it to be a dangerous dog, what with assuming this was a criminals house
In any case, a very sad tale, I actually get more upset when I hear a dog has been murdered than a human being. (Why? I don't know, maybe I see them as being more innocent)

I think the officer was out of line to have his weapon drawn when he approached. They come equipped with Non-Lethal Takedown measures. He had mace. And a Taser. Neither of which would have killed the dog. I can't say he's 100% Guilty, but he is by no means innocent. Even watching the video from his dash cam demonstrates that his gun was out before he even approached the mans house.

Sansha:

Final First:
The only thing you can blame this officer for is entering the wrong house. Otherwise he did what any officer would do in that situation, even if it was the right house. Why can't people accept the fact that even police officers make mistakes?

In a situation like this a police officer is genuinely frightened because, based on the information given and how he's carried it out, he's dealing with what he believes is a dangerous individual, and training kicks in.

That said, the officer should apologize in person to the dog's owner, and ask if there's anything he can do to make amends. It's a hugely emotional and unfair experience for the owner, and I imagine there'd be a lot of anger and frustration... the least they could do is make an effort on an emotional level.

I agree, but I don't understand the posters saying he deserves a fierce penalty. It seems they also forget that the officer may also feel... sickened, by the situation as well.

Shawn MacDonald:
Oh my god a human being made a mistake, you are kidding me. Yeah I thought the rest of us are perfect. That is the final straw, time to make a "lets kill all cops thread." May your torches burn bright and your pitchforks pointy, it's cop killing time. Everyone on this planet signed a pact to be perfect, I won't stand a glitch in the system. Almost can't type right now because my perfect world is falling apart. Lets put the joking aside and say he made a mistake, will probably feel bad for a long time.

I certainly hope the lower half of your leg didn't go flying across the room due that serious knee-jerk you just had.

OT: Part of me wants to say "Idiot cop" and leave it at that but I suppose he did believe that he was in the correct house. As tragic as it is, it's not like he just randomly shoots dogs. I mean, if it had in fact been the correct house then people wouldn't care so much.

I don't condone what he did but I understand why he did it.

Not even news worthy, it's a very dull story. Guy makes a mistake => shitstorm occurs; who cares? Am I supposed to be judging the entire American police force off 11 isolated incidents in the past year being posted here? No. I'll do that when the police nuke a school to stop a kid with a gun or something appropriately ridiculous.

Shawn MacDonald:
Oh my god a human being made a mistake, you are kidding me. Yeah I thought the rest of us are perfect. That is the final straw, time to make a "lets kill all cops thread." May your torches burn bright and your pitchforks pointy, it's cop killing time. Everyone on this planet signed a pact to be perfect, I won't stand a glitch in the system. Almost can't type right now because my perfect world is falling apart. Lets put the joking aside and say he made a mistake, will probably feel bad for a long time.

A mistake is putting salt in something instead of sugar. Heck, even a surgeon removing the wrong leg is a mistake, but that doesn't absolve them of the responsibility.

This was, yet another, psycho with a badge who walked into a (wrong) house ready to shoot something, and he found it.

Talk about it being an "honest human mistake" all you want, but I'd certainly never forgive the police for it.

Also, when I picture this cop, I think of Mr. Bean joining the police force.

thiosk:
Yeah I saw this when it popped up.

Ugh.

Its pretty obvious racism against grayish dogs. I bet if the dog was a french poodle he'd be walkin' today.

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Was this just an excuse to post a picture of a cute dog? Because if so....well played

Why is it that I expect these kinds of things to happen in Texas?

dyre:
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How awesome is that?

Capcha does movie quotes?! Since when?

anthony87:

Shawn MacDonald:
Oh my god a human being made a mistake, you are kidding me. Yeah I thought the rest of us are perfect. That is the final straw, time to make a "lets kill all cops thread." May your torches burn bright and your pitchforks pointy, it's cop killing time. Everyone on this planet signed a pact to be perfect, I won't stand a glitch in the system. Almost can't type right now because my perfect world is falling apart. Lets put the joking aside and say he made a mistake, will probably feel bad for a long time.

I certainly hope the lower half of your leg didn't go flying across the room due that serious knee-jerk you just had.

OT: Part of me wants to say "Idiot cop" and leave it at that but I suppose he did believe that he was in the correct house. As tragic as it is, it's not like he just randomly shoots dogs. I mean, if it had in fact been the correct house then people wouldn't care so much.

I don't condone what he did but I understand why he did it.

Okay so you sent me a message to just agree with me. Your pissed off that I was being sarcastic. This is confusing to me, what was the point? Mostly the first thing you just typed. Everyone is an asshole in their own way, I knew a cop bashing thread was going to get started. At least a bunch of British kids ripping on America as usual. Lets just say that my leg did go flying across the room because I have the ability to throw my limbs.

Shawn MacDonald:
Oh my god a human being made a mistake, you are kidding me. Yeah I thought the rest of us are perfect. That is the final straw, time to make a "lets kill all cops thread." May your torches burn bright and your pitchforks pointy, it's cop killing time. Everyone on this planet signed a pact to be perfect, I won't stand a glitch in the system. Almost can't type right now because my perfect world is falling apart. Lets put the joking aside and say he made a mistake, will probably feel bad for a long time.

Seems to happen a lot among the "To protect and serve" crowd... these "isolated incidents" are beginning to add up. The entire point of being a police office is you are willingly choosing a life of SERVICE to the PUBLIC and accepting more responsibility and to be held at a higher standard and if they kept their end of the bargain they would be freaking respected unanimously, there would be no ifs or buts about it.

I AM PISSED OFF...poor dog aww man now i am sad

Sansha:

Final First:
The only thing you can blame this officer for is entering the wrong house. Otherwise he did what any officer would do in that situation, even if it was the right house. Why can't people accept the fact that even police officers make mistakes?

In a situation like this a police officer is genuinely frightened because, based on the information given and how he's carried it out, he's dealing with what he believes is a dangerous individual, and training kicks in.

Seriously worries me that their trained response to "Dog barking" is "Shoot in face." Also worries me that a barking dog could trigger a fear response in a POLICE OFFICER. How is this guy supposed to handle real crime if something this benign has him scared into being trigger happy?

SmashLovesTitanQuest:
I think police officers need to stop shooting dogs.

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Honestly ever time I read something about the cops it usually ends with them killing a dog.

The next story is going to be as followed

"Police officer escorts old lady a cross the street, then shoots her dog"

Kinguendo:

Shawn MacDonald:
Oh my god a human being made a mistake, you are kidding me. Yeah I thought the rest of us are perfect. That is the final straw, time to make a "lets kill all cops thread." May your torches burn bright and your pitchforks pointy, it's cop killing time. Everyone on this planet signed a pact to be perfect, I won't stand a glitch in the system. Almost can't type right now because my perfect world is falling apart. Lets put the joking aside and say he made a mistake, will probably feel bad for a long time.

Seems to happen a lot among the "To protect and serve" crowd... these "isolated incidents" are beginning to add up. The entire point of being a police office is you are willingly choosing a life of SERVICE to the PUBLIC and accepting more responsibility and to be held at a higher standard and if they kept their end of the bargain they would be freaking respected unanimously, there would be no ifs or buts about it.

Whatever you say.

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