What's wrong with being a stripper?

1. Its a legitimate job
2. That pays
3. There really is no 3.

krazykidd:
Hell i might even get a poll installed in my living room .

Where people can vote on what their favorite move is?
OT: I wouldn't be thrilled she kept it from me, but if that's the work she wants to do, let her go at it, I suppose.

Kalezian:

HardkorSB:

ameemo:
Let's take this hypothetical situation, what would you do if you found out that the girl you've fallen for and been going out with for a while is a stripper? would it be wrong to just dump her and never speak to her again because you judged her before you got to know the situation she's in and offer her support? or do you have the right to break up with her knowing that she did not trust you enough to tell you(in essence making her own judgement) and the thought of all the guys that have seen and touched her would is just unbearable?

I wouldn't mind.
It could actually be an advantage. If she's a stripper, that means she's hot and she can move and excite a man and that's important, I think.
Also, she's showing off her body. The same thing happens at public pools and on beaches at times, unless you consider something like this clothing:

WARNING: PARTIAL FEMALE NUDITY AHEAD :DPHA+PGltZyBzcmM9Imh0dHA6Ly8yLmJwLmJsb2dzcG90LmNvbS8tVjFpOEtVaF9VS0UvVGRVNHdBdThZOUkvQUFBQUFBQUFCcDgvLW1UaGVBZkExY3MvczE2MDAvYWRyaWFuYS1zYWdlLXRob25nLXdhbGxwYXBlLmpwZyIgYWx0PSJpbWFnZSIvPjwvcD4=

Unless of course, a guy wouldn't want to date a girl who did that as well, but that's just silly.

It would be impossible to date her only if you were one of those oversensitive insecure guys who think that stripping is the "gateway drug" to prostitution.

I couldn't date a stripper, not because 'it could be a gateway drug to other evil things, like veganism!', but to me a woman who strips for (usually) a living is okay with multiple men watching her nightly.

I however, would not be.

Jealousy? Not really, its more of having standards, which to me a girl who strip has either low or nonexistent standards.

Also, lol, "if you wont date a stripper, you are oversensitive and insecure".

L O fucking L.

Personally I think a girl/boy who decided stripping was the best course of action for a career (though it's more likely desperation), likely has some issues they never bothered to resolve... seriously, I can't imagine the unstable background that led a person thinking that being a stripper would be fulfilling and/or rewarding in the grand scheme of things.

Also, imagine the difficulty of teaching future kids important values, when their mother dangles her ta-tas to drunken louts, deviants and people who just don't give a fuck.

My code for life: If you would be ashamed to tell your grandkids about it, don't do it (yes, grandkids... where the future is even more decadent then the present).

EDIT: Admittedly, there is wisdom in experience, so who knows, maybe a stripper mother would have a better view on things for her kids to avoid. Though that leads to hypocrisy.

Ragsnstitches:

Personally I think a girl/boy who decided stripping was the best course of action for a career (though it's more likely desperation), likely has some issues they never bothered to resolve... seriously, I can't imagine the unstable background that led a person thinking that being a stripper would be fulfilling and/or rewarding in the grand scheme of things.

I feel the same way about people who want to work in management. When does that get fun? Here's the thing some people actually enjoy sex and sexuality. They do not view it as taboo or anything like that.

Also, imagine the difficulty of teaching future kids important values, when their mother dangles her ta-tas to drunken louts, deviants and people who just don't give a fuck.

Depends what you consider important values. To me the main thing in life is to do whatever makes you happy without hurting other people.

My code for life: If you would be ashamed to tell your grandkids about it, don't do it (yes, grandkids... where the future is even more decadent then the present).

That leaves me fucked. I'm a stand up comedian, there's nothing I'm ashamed to say to anyone.

EDIT: Admittedly, there is wisdom in experience, so who knows, maybe a stripper mother would have a better view on things for her kids to avoid. Though that leads to hypocrisy.

Here's the thing, not all strippers are strippers because they failed school, had abusive fathers and got hooked on meth, a lot of them like stripping, trust me I know some personally (not in that way).

...you realize a stripper isn't a hooker right? If I found out my GF was a stripper I really wouldn't care. Hell, I'd be excited by the fact that she's likely making more money than I am. Other guys and, gals look at strippers, they don't play with them. If your GF was a hooker then there may be a problem. A stripper though? They're the post-high school Cheerleader. What kind of man breaks up with a cheerleader?!

If it took her this long to tell me, then it shows me that we've gotten to a point where she really trusts me and/or it's a job she may not be 100% proud of. It could be that she is really only doing the job to make some extra money to pay some bills. We've all done stuff we're not proud of, as long as I really know her personality then I can make the judgement myself.

On the flip side, would you rather date the girl who right up front offhandedly says she's a stripper? It would seem to me she is desensitized to it... Sure, you might make a good one night stand out of it but how many guys look at the stripper they just met and think "yup, I want to marry this girl".

The girlfriend who waited some time to tell you may just really like you and want you to get to know the good side of her before you find out about her employment.

Why on earth would I even consider dumping her for being a stripper? It's just a job. And if she's got that talent, it'd be really like looking a gift horse in the mouth, wouldn't it?

Furthermore, I'd still say her job makes more difference than mine. She gets payed for giving people blue balls (which is supposed to be entertaining somehow), while I'm (currently, probably not very long...) payed to call people up in the middle of dinner and trying to make them buy useless guff they don't want or need.

I would break up with her. However I would make sure she knows it isn't because I dislike her or don't respect her decision or job choice it is a my issue and I simply don't think I would be comfortable having my girlfriend out doing anything sexual with anyone even if it isn't sex and completely work related. To be honest I think I would have a issue if my girlfriend was actress doing certain things as well.

I wouldn't be able to date her. I see that as cheating. I suspect a lot of people will disagree, but it falls under that category for me.

Then again, a lot of people think it's cool to flirt with other people while you're in a relationship, which I most certainly don't.

ameemo:
Let's take this hypothetical situation, what would you do if you found out that the girl you've fallen for and been going out with for a while is a stripper? would it be wrong to just dump her and never speak to her again because you judged her before you got to know the situation she's in and offer her support? or do you have the right to break up with her knowing that she did not trust you enough to tell you(in essence making her own judgement) and the thought of all the guys that have seen and touched her would is just unbearable?

Been there...

Dump her and never talk to her again.

Just fucking trust me please.

Spot1990:

Ragsnstitches:

Personally I think a girl/boy who decided stripping was the best course of action for a career (though it's more likely desperation), likely has some issues they never bothered to resolve... seriously, I can't imagine the unstable background that led a person thinking that being a stripper would be fulfilling and/or rewarding in the grand scheme of things.

I feel the same way about people who want to work in management. When does that get fun? Here's the thing some people actually enjoy sex and sexuality. They do not view it as taboo or anything like that.

Also, imagine the difficulty of teaching future kids important values, when their mother dangles her ta-tas to drunken louts, deviants and people who just don't give a fuck.

Depends what you consider important values. To me the main thing in life is to do whatever makes you happy without hurting other people.

My code for life: If you would be ashamed to tell your grandkids about it, don't do it (yes, grandkids... where the future is even more decadent then the present).

That leaves me fucked. I'm a stand up comedian, there's nothing I'm ashamed to say to anyone.

EDIT: Admittedly, there is wisdom in experience, so who knows, maybe a stripper mother would have a better view on things for her kids to avoid. Though that leads to hypocrisy.

Here's the thing, not all strippers are strippers because they failed school, had abusive fathers and got hooked on meth, a lot of them like stripping, trust me I know some personally (not in that way).

*Okay, first off... me? Completely open minded about sex and sexuality. Strippers? Sure, let them do their thing. Does it interest me? Not in the slightest. It just doesn't jive with what I find appealing in a person.

*Secondly, Taboo? Didn't say that. Neither did I say strippers were meth heads or too stupid to do anything else (but you did, which handily adds to the weight of what I'm about to said). Family problems? I can place fucking money on it. How am I so sure? Because no parent would willingly allow their child (which all parents view their offspring, regardless of age), get into such a practice. If not for some draconian moral standard or some religiously orientated sexual repression, it will be simply due to the horridly bad publicity of the Stripping institutions that mainstream media pushes. Actually, I take that back, there are parents that would... that is, parents in families that are UNSTABLE.

*Moral Values: Live your life as you want, but everything comes at a price. That is what drives my moral compass, along with compassion and consideration for others. Tell me, how would the hypothetical classmates of the hypothetical kids react to the knowledge of a stripper mom? Hmm? I think the answer is obvious. In this case Consideration was lacking. Suppose one of the kids voices concern or even resentment at the mothers career and bullying that results from it, what would you do? Tell them to toughen up? Or tell your wife to stop stripping? Compassion, and this one will be a difficult choice.

Everything comes at a price... but some things are just not worth it.

*The moral code I made in my first post? Yeah, can be disregarded. Didn't think that one through. Never live your life under the control of shame. It's fucked me over one too many times.

*Finally, Love your avatar.

TheBobmus:
I'm not ignorant, I know the definition of the word 'promiscuous', and just told you what it is. You tried to correct me when I was right all along, and continued to do so. My logic is sound - you jumped in to correct me on the definition of the word promiscuous, but in telling me had to look the word up on Wikipedia yourself, meaning you challenged me on my grasp of the English language without knowing the precise definition of the word you were calling me out on. Bad move.

Your logic is flawed, he may have been simply looking up the word to prove you wrong, and to provide a source for his claims. You have no way to prove he didn't know the meaning of the word prior to looking it up. As for claiming Wikipedia is incorrect, personally I find it is right 99% of the time, but if you insist another source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/promiscuous

You're both right, the word "promiscuous" can be used in different ways. Some people take it to mean a person who has casual sex frequently, others take it to mean acting "slutty", and showing skin. It's rather subjective. Anyhow, it's arguing a technicality, in my opinion.

On topic, I think if a guy were to dump her for working such a job, they are shallow, and likely believers in the notion of "sexual purity" for females, anyhow; a stupid mindset that I still see far too many men possessing, even in this modern day and age. I would tell her it's cool with me, and if she wants to practice, all she has to do is just send me an invite.

TheBobmus:
Interestingly I just apologised for how petty this whole argument was literally five posts above you.
But thank-you for pointing out the flaw in my rage-logic all the same. (:

Sorry, I may have done the 1-page skim before raging myself at the sexual immaturity displayed by a lot of males here.

HardkorSB:

ameemo:
Let's take this hypothetical situation, what would you do if you found out that the girl you've fallen for and been going out with for a while is a stripper? would it be wrong to just dump her and never speak to her again because you judged her before you got to know the situation she's in and offer her support? or do you have the right to break up with her knowing that she did not trust you enough to tell you(in essence making her own judgement) and the thought of all the guys that have seen and touched her would is just unbearable?

I wouldn't mind.
It could actually be an advantage. If she's a stripper, that means she's hot and she can move and excite a man and that's important, I think.
Also, she's showing off her body. The same thing happens at public pools and on beaches at times, unless you consider something like this clothing:

WARNING: PARTIAL FEMALE NUDITY AHEAD :DPHA+PGltZyBzcmM9Imh0dHA6Ly8yLmJwLmJsb2dzcG90LmNvbS8tVjFpOEtVaF9VS0UvVGRVNHdBdThZOUkvQUFBQUFBQUFCcDgvLW1UaGVBZkExY3MvczE2MDAvYWRyaWFuYS1zYWdlLXRob25nLXdhbGxwYXBlLmpwZyIgYWx0PSJpbWFnZSIvPjwvcD4=

Unless of course, a guy wouldn't want to date a girl who did that as well, but that's just silly.

It would be impossible to date her only if you were one of those oversensitive insecure guys who think that stripping is the "gateway drug" to prostitution.

Where is the beach that women wear such outfits? Because if it exists I'd like to go, especially if they're that good looking. In response to the post, it ultimately depends on how you feel about the situation. Do you want to date a stripper? If I were in the situation, I don't know...I'd give it a shot, but I'm kind of the jealous-type. I don't know if it would work out simply because I don't like the idea of a) lap dances and b) other dudes recognizing her on the street. That's just me, take it for what it's worth. She must be hot, so you've got that, and you must be getting close, as stated previously, for her to tell you this. You've got a lot on your plate, like me. If you find it too much to deal with at once, have some drinks and think on it. That's my favorite kind of thinkin'. Thinkin' drinkin'

Personally I can't see why being a stripper would be cause to dump a girl that until prior to finding out that fact you wanted a serious relationship with. What does it matter if she makes money out of people essentailly just looking at her, especially considering that at the end of the day she wants to be in a relatiomship with me.

As for the not telling me aspect, well I'd ask more out of curiosity than anything else but I can't think anything she would say would change how I would feel about her.

Jonluw:
No, I wouldn't dump her.
Why would I?

Clearly, she wasn't comfortable telling me about her profession, and I can understand that. I will see her telling me as proof that we've become close.

At first I was like why would I? What a dumb question because she is a liar and a stripper.

But then you made a really good point. Which is totally possible and makes sense.

OP: I wouldn't date a stripper, even if they are hot. Lots of guys would. You just have to do what feels right for you.

TheBobmus:

savageoblivi0n:
oh lord...lets just put an end to the whole thing right now...Wikipedia's not a good enough source...alright then...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/promiscuous?s=t

pro·mis·cu·ous   [pruh-mis-kyoo-uhs] Show IPA
adjective
1.
characterized by or involving indiscriminate mingling or association, especially having sexual relations with a number of partners on a casual basis.
2.
consisting of parts, elements, or individuals of different kinds brought together without order.
3.
indiscriminate; without discrimination.
4.
casual; irregular; haphazard.

Promiscuous in the way you're trying to use it refers to sexual relations, i.e. actually having sex with someone..A dancer is not necessarily promiscuous, end of.

Why does everyone today seem to think I need an education in the usage of the word promiscuous?
Promiscuous means you are indiscriminate in your sexual behaviour, which will mean different things to different people. As I have previously stated in this thread, I would call dancing provocatively for another man 'sexual behaviour', and am thus justified in calling a stripper 'promiscuous'. It does not have to mean having sex.

I have to agree with you on this one, sexual behavior can mean anything from phone sex to full penetration, and everything in between, including lap dancing which is kind of like light dry humping.

I'd find it understandable that they kept it from me for however long it took us to get serious. Think about it. When people talk about strippers they always treat them either like pity projects "Oh you must have been abused as a child." or think of them as dirty sluts who sleep around for money (because people are dumb and think stripper = prostitute). Suddenly you're judgin this person entirely through their profession despite knowin literally nothin about them before this. Can you blame someone for not dumpin that kind of knowledge on the first date?

Would it bother me? Eh, not really. It's a job and if she enjoys that job, who am I to judge? I can understand why people would get icked out by it though. Some people are really rigid with their sexuality and old school when it comes to relationships. Nothin wrong with that, but it wouldn't jive well with bein in a relationship with someone who basically breaks those rules as a part of their job.

Don't really give a fuck. Do what you gotta do. She could be a rich girl with daddy issues or a downtrodden genius trying to pay her way through University. I don't care. If I liked her and she liked me that's really all that matters. Oh and most of you posting bullshit about "promiscuity" and "unfaithfulness" are probably very insecure or are more likely to cheat yourself, so you're projecting. That or you belong to an organized religion.

QUALIFIER: I'M NOT SHITTING ON OR BASHING YOUR RELIGION. I'M ASSUMING THAT YOUR VALUES AND OPINIONS WERE INFLUENCED BY YOUR RELIGION.

To be fair, most cultures seem to have leaned toward monogamy (or at least faithfulness and/or loyalty) regardless of religious influence. Perhaps I'm just looking for a fight... I've got some thinking to do.

ameemo:
Let's take this hypothetical situation, what would you do if you found out that the girl you've fallen for and been going out with for a while is a stripper? would it be wrong to just dump her and never speak to her again because you judged her before you got to know the situation she's in and offer her support? or do you have the right to break up with her knowing that she did not trust you enough to tell you(in essence making her own judgement) and the thought of all the guys that have seen and touched her would is just unbearable?

I'd find it more a problem that she didn't tell you her job. Though that raises the question of have you never asked her what she does for a job? Because for me that's one of the first things I find out no matter who I am dating male or female. I'm of the mind that stripping is perfectly fine. Heck, if done right, pole dancing could qualify as an olympic sport. Some of the things that some people can do are mind blowingly amazing.....It is my understanding at least out in the US that MOST states have the rule of you can't touch the girls. It may be different where you're at but I know for certain that is how it is out here.

I'd be a little concerned that she didn't tell me earlier, particularly if we'd been together a while. And maybe wonder how I didn't notice that earlier.

But aside from wanting a good reason as to why she didn't trust me earlier, it wouldn't be a deal breaker.

If she's been keeping it as a secret I wonder why she wouldn't fele comfortable telling you but personally I wouldn't dump her. If I like her the only job I would be worried about is her being a prostitute. I mean strippers have codes about not going home or anything with customers (at least here) and she defineatly knows how to do the foreplay...

For all the people saying it could be a lot worse, It could also be a lot better too.

But worse is more likely...

Depends.

Casual relationship with no strings attached? I'd break up with her.
A long-term relationship or the potential for such? I'd break up with her.

Yeah, regardless of what the rules are in stripper joints, I would simply look down on her for being a stripper. I'd probably even feel disgust for her.

I know that being a stripper and being a prostitute are two different things. I still, however, associate them with the thoughts "Who knows how many people have explored her dungeon?"

The same way I'd just someone who've had sex with fifty people. That kind of thing raises an eyebrow from me. And my gag reflex.

Ultimately, the reason I wouldn't be okay with it is you can rationalise it away as "No touching" or "Regular check-ups" and so on, but it's a job based on their sexuality, in person, to a group of strangers, sometimes involving skin-contact and certainly involving sexual flirting.

I simply couldn't handle it, and I don't see why I should have to swallow (excuse any connotations) my personal thoughts and feelings. Every one has a deal breaker, this is one of mine.

Nothing. Her profession has nothing to do with it.

I would request the highest of fives.

Ok not really. I wouldn't really mind.

Kalezian:
I couldn't date a stripper, not because 'it could be a gateway drug to other evil things, like veganism!', but to me a woman who strips for (usually) a living is okay with multiple men watching her nightly.

Yeah, so?

Kalezian:
Jealousy? Not really, its more of having standards, which to me a girl who strip has either low or nonexistent standards.

Have you ever met and talked to any strippers or are you just making a generalization?

Kalezian:
Also, lol, "if you wont date a stripper, you are oversensitive and insecure".

Not what I said but whatever.

Call me crazy but I don't see the big deal in showing your body to other people. I've been to nudist beaches and it was a lot of fun. I don't have any issues with taking off my clothes in front of other people. Other people may have issues but if they don't than it's OK.
Plus, the girl is making money that way, usually quite a decent sum. To be honest, I find working as a janitor and cleaning up leftover shit from toilets or standing behind the counter at McDonalds and being nice to assholes (both for minimum wage) more degrading than that.

Again, that's just my weird little opinion.

HardkorSB:

Kalezian:
I couldn't date a stripper, not because 'it could be a gateway drug to other evil things, like veganism!', but to me a woman who strips for (usually) a living is okay with multiple men watching her nightly.

Yeah, so?

Kalezian:
Jealousy? Not really, its more of having standards, which to me a girl who strip has either low or nonexistent standards.

Have you ever met and talked to any strippers or are you just making a generalization?

Kalezian:
Also, lol, "if you wont date a stripper, you are oversensitive and insecure".

Not what I said but whatever.

yes you did.

HardkorSB:
It would be impossible to date her only if you were one of those oversensitive insecure guys who think that stripping is the "gateway drug" to prostitution.

Call me crazy but I don't see the big deal in showing your body to other people. I've been to nudist beaches and it was a lot of fun. I don't have any issues with taking off my clothes in front of other people. Other people may have issues but if they don't than it's OK.
Plus, the girl is making money that way, usually quite a decent sum. To be honest, I find working as a janitor and cleaning up leftover shit from toilets or standing behind the counter at McDonalds and being nice to assholes (both for minimum wage) more degrading than that.

As someone said before, if your immediate thought of employment is taking your clothes off instead of a respectable job, then you have some major issues that should be looked into.

also, nude beaches =/= strip clubs.

While working at a fast food restaurant is degrading in some parts, at least you had your dignity. Again, if you would rather take your clothes off for complete strangers than do actual work then you have some issues.

Would I date a Stripper, no, even I have standards, one of which is that the woman has to have standards herself, showing off to numerous guys every night shows that she doesn't mind it.

But hey, its your opinion, if you would want a girl that doesn't mind shaking her ass at complete strangers that could lead to other things, go for it, I would rather have a woman that has self respect.

Kalezian:
As someone said before, if your immediate thought of employment is taking your clothes off instead of a respectable job, then you have some major issues that should be looked into.

also, nude beaches =/= strip clubs.

While working at a fast food restaurant is degrading in some parts, at least you had your dignity. Again, if you would rather take your clothes off for complete strangers than do actual work then you have some issues.

Would I date a Stripper, no, even I have standards, one of which is that the woman has to have standards herself, showing off to numerous guys every night shows that she doesn't mind it.

But hey, its your opinion, if you would want a girl that doesn't mind shaking her ass at complete strangers that could lead to other things, go for it, I would rather have a woman that has self respect

Feel free to enlighten me but why is what a stripper does instantly cost them their dignity and self respect? They take off their clothes and people pay them, wheres the harm in that? They offer a service people want and it doesn't hurt anyone, my word how very shameful. There are people who do alot more harm in their jobs than strippers do in theirs so you've got alot more of humanity to add to that 'will not date a' list