Do you think he would've been cooler if he'd been packing one of these:
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Nope That long stick sticking out of it, which I assume to be a sight. Looks absolutely ridiculous! That and in my opinion it looks more like a toy than a weapon, I blame the wheels
Keoul: Nope That long stick sticking out of it, which I assume to be a sight. Looks absolutely ridiculous! That and in my opinion it looks more like a toy than a weapon, I blame the wheels
The stick is a balancer, not a sight. The sight is the shorter stick further up on the bow.
Nah, the only reason compound bows are cool is that they pack a heavier punch. The whole aiming business requires lots of concentration, and is unnecessary since he already has perfect aim. The pulleys are unnecessary because it's a superhero movie. We've already abandoned realism, so there's no need for pulleys to make the bow stronger. That, and you can't fire rapidly with a compound bow.
Besides, saying compound bows are cooler than classical bows is just wrong. They're like bows with training wheels. If you feel like going all high-tech and shit, just get a gun.
Jonluw: Nah, the only reason compound bows are cool is that they pack a heavier punch. The whole aiming business requires lots of concentration, and is unnecessary since he already has perfect aim. The pulleys are unnecessary because it's a superhero movie. We've already abandoned realism, so there's no need for pulleys to make the bow stronger. That, and you can't fire rapidly with a compound bow.
Besides, saying compound bows are cooler than classical bows is just wrong. They're like bows with training wheels. If you feel like going all high-tech and shit, just get a gun.
See, my problem is that whenever I see an 'unadorned' bow, it just looks wrong somehow...
It has to have a sight, long-rod, twins, dampers, clicker etc. to look right...
And as for compounds, to be fair, I prefer Beiter stabilisers (adjustable weights on four bound thin rods) and only a single twin. And Hawkeye's whole flick thingy to expand the limbs really irks me, primarily because you can't maintain a high poundage on it. Personally (and this is just me... though I'm fairly sure my sister would agree...) I would've thought it cooller if he kept the riser & limbs in a pack on his back, *click* *click*, pulled the string from his belt and assembled it LIEK A BAWSS.
Jonluw: Nah, the only reason compound bows are cool is that they pack a heavier punch. The whole aiming business requires lots of concentration, and is unnecessary since he already has perfect aim. The pulleys are unnecessary because it's a superhero movie. We've already abandoned realism, so there's no need for pulleys to make the bow stronger. That, and you can't fire rapidly with a compound bow.
Besides, saying compound bows are cooler than classical bows is just wrong. They're like bows with training wheels. If you feel like going all high-tech and shit, just get a gun.
See, my problem is that whenever I see an 'unadorned' bow, it just looks wrong somehow...
Oh something's wrong alright. You, to be specific, is what's wrong.
It has to have a sight, long-rod, twins, dampers, clicker etc. to look right...
And as for compounds, to be fair, I prefer Beiter stabilisers (adjustable weights on four bound thin rods) and only a single twin. And Hawkeye's whole flick thingy to expand the limbs really irks me, primarily because you can't maintain a high poundage on it. Personally (and this is just me... though I'm fairly sure my sister would agree...) I would've thought it cooller if he kept the riser & limbs in a pack on his back, *click* *click*, pulled the string from his belt and assembled it LIEK A BAWSS.
Ah well...
(Note, never read the comics...)
I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
Jonluw: Oh something's wrong alright. You, to be specific, is what's wrong.
Charming! =P I'm what's wrong with my own opinion... good one!
I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
Well, Thor's hammer is more hokey than physics, for all that's a dumb argument. Still, it was fun to watch, so be thankful the less than ideal representation of archery did not diminish my overall enjoyment of the film! -_-
Jonluw: I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
I think that's because only Thor can use it, in the original mythology too, I think. (I think a lot) If someone else tries to use it, it weighs tons, like, the weight of the world, very much is, I guess, what I want to say. (I also use a lot of commas)
Jonluw: Oh something's wrong alright. You, to be specific, is what's wrong.
Charming! =P I'm what's wrong with my own opinion... good one!
I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
Well, Thor's hammer is more hokey than physics, for all that's a dumb argument. Still, it was fun to watch, so be thankful the less than ideal representation of archery did not diminish my overall enjoyment of the film! -_-
Oh, the loose discourse with physics certainly lessened my enjoyment somewhat.
Jonluw: I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
I think that's because only Thor can use it, in the original mythology too, I think. (I think a lot) If someone else tries to use it, it weighs tons, like, the weight of the world, very much is, I guess, what I want to say. (I also use a lot of commas)
If the Hulk grabbing it makes it weigh tons, that should still make it rush through the floor of the ship.
Jonluw: Nah, the only reason compound bows are cool is that they pack a heavier punch. The whole aiming business requires lots of concentration, and is unnecessary since he already has perfect aim. The pulleys are unnecessary because it's a superhero movie. We've already abandoned realism, so there's no need for pulleys to make the bow stronger. That, and you can't fire rapidly with a compound bow.
Besides, saying compound bows are cooler than classical bows is just wrong. They're like bows with training wheels. If you feel like going all high-tech and shit, just get a gun.
See, my problem is that whenever I see an 'unadorned' bow, it just looks wrong somehow...
Oh something's wrong alright. You, to be specific, is what's wrong.
It has to have a sight, long-rod, twins, dampers, clicker etc. to look right...
And as for compounds, to be fair, I prefer Beiter stabilisers (adjustable weights on four bound thin rods) and only a single twin. And Hawkeye's whole flick thingy to expand the limbs really irks me, primarily because you can't maintain a high poundage on it. Personally (and this is just me... though I'm fairly sure my sister would agree...) I would've thought it cooller if he kept the riser & limbs in a pack on his back, *click* *click*, pulled the string from his belt and assembled it LIEK A BAWSS.
Ah well...
(Note, never read the comics...)
I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
Err just want to point out that Thor is the only one that can wield it, I forgot the exact reasoning, but for anyone else it has insane weight. Hulk's feat don't "sink" rather he is trying to lift it with his feet and the force he exerts on the floor causes the floor to be crushed/cracked under his feet.
See, my problem is that whenever I see an 'unadorned' bow, it just looks wrong somehow...
Oh something's wrong alright. You, to be specific, is what's wrong.
It has to have a sight, long-rod, twins, dampers, clicker etc. to look right...
And as for compounds, to be fair, I prefer Beiter stabilisers (adjustable weights on four bound thin rods) and only a single twin. And Hawkeye's whole flick thingy to expand the limbs really irks me, primarily because you can't maintain a high poundage on it. Personally (and this is just me... though I'm fairly sure my sister would agree...) I would've thought it cooller if he kept the riser & limbs in a pack on his back, *click* *click*, pulled the string from his belt and assembled it LIEK A BAWSS.
Ah well...
(Note, never read the comics...)
I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
Err just want to point out that Thor is the only one that can wield it, I forgot the exact reasoning, but for anyone else it has insane weight. Hulk's feat don't "sink" rather he is trying to lift it with his feet and the force he exerts on the floor causes the floor to be crushed/cracked under his feet.
So you're saying that the hammer is locked in a completely stationary state of the speed and acceleration it had at the time when he let go of it?
Jonluw: Oh something's wrong alright. You, to be specific, is what's wrong.
Charming! =P I'm what's wrong with my own opinion... good one!
I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
Well, Thor's hammer is more hokey than physics, for all that's a dumb argument. Still, it was fun to watch, so be thankful the less than ideal representation of archery did not diminish my overall enjoyment of the film! -_-
Jonluw: Nah, the only reason compound bows are cool is that they pack a heavier punch. The whole aiming business requires lots of concentration, and is unnecessary since he already has perfect aim. The pulleys are unnecessary because it's a superhero movie. We've already abandoned realism, so there's no need for pulleys to make the bow stronger. That, and you can't fire rapidly with a compound bow.
Besides, saying compound bows are cooler than classical bows is just wrong. They're like bows with training wheels. If you feel like going all high-tech and shit, just get a gun.
See, my problem is that whenever I see an 'unadorned' bow, it just looks wrong somehow...
Oh something's wrong alright. You, to be specific, is what's wrong.
It has to have a sight, long-rod, twins, dampers, clicker etc. to look right...
And as for compounds, to be fair, I prefer Beiter stabilisers (adjustable weights on four bound thin rods) and only a single twin. And Hawkeye's whole flick thingy to expand the limbs really irks me, primarily because you can't maintain a high poundage on it. Personally (and this is just me... though I'm fairly sure my sister would agree...) I would've thought it cooller if he kept the riser & limbs in a pack on his back, *click* *click*, pulled the string from his belt and assembled it LIEK A BAWSS.
Ah well...
(Note, never read the comics...)
I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
The reason his feet sank is because he can't pick up the hammer because he is not worthy (see this for details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir_%28comics%29) Thus when he grabbed the hammer, he used his feet to try to gain leverage, which dented the floor causing him to sink.
Jonluw: If the Hulk grabbing it makes it weigh tons, that should still make it rush through the floor of the ship.
It only weighs that much for the person who tries to pick it up.
That statement doesn't make sense. Does it make the person trying to lift it weak? Then why does the hulk sink into the floor? Is it locked in a completely stationary position in space? If so, relative to what? If it's on earth, it's both moving and accelerating.
Jonluw: So you're saying that the hammer is locked in a completely stationary state of the speed and acceleration it had at the time when he let go of it?
No, he's a (demi-)god and it's magic. I don't know, I never read a comic and I'm not specialized in Scandinavian mythology.
Jonluw: I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
I think that's because only Thor can use it, in the original mythology too, I think. (I think a lot) If someone else tries to use it, it weighs tons, like, the weight of the world, very much is, I guess, what I want to say. (I also use a lot of commas)
Actually there was another character that could lift it called Beta Ray Bill, who, in doing so, also gained the powers of Thor (if he be worthy, etc)
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MorganL4: The reason his feet sank is because he can't pick up the hammer because he is not worthy (see this for details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir_%28comics%29) Thus when he grabbed the hammer, he used his feet to try to gain leverage, which dented the floor causing him to sink.
See my other comments. Explain what 'lifting' means.
MorganL4: The reason his feet sank is because he can't pick up the hammer because he is not worthy (see this for details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir_%28comics%29) Thus when he grabbed the hammer, he used his feet to try to gain leverage, which dented the floor causing him to sink.
Wouldn't it be funny if Bruce Banner could use Miolnir but Hulk couldn't? I think that would be quite funny.
First off, who in the world expects any kind of recognition of physics in a super hero movie? Shame on any who do. Anyway, Thor's hammer has a very simple explanation. Only Thor (or others "worthy") can move and use the hammer. It's not that it weighs a ton, and so wouldn't crash through the ship when dropped.
SckizoBoy: Do you think he would've been cooler if he'd been packing one of these:
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Also that looks pretty ridiculous. I don't understand people who want all kinds of crap piled onto their bow. I do just fine with my plain old recurves. The more plain the better it looks. Besides, compound bows are like cheating :-p
Jonluw: So you're saying that the hammer is locked in a completely stationary state of the speed and acceleration it had at the time when he let go of it?
No, he's a (demi-)god and it's magic. I don't know, I never read a comic and I'm not specialized in Scandinavian mythology.
The real Scandinavian mythology doesn't have a lot in common with the canon of the Marvel universe. They share names and all, but that's about it.
And "it's magic" doesn't exactly hold up when it's ignoring such basic physics.
Xangba: Also that looks pretty ridiculous. I don't understand people who want all kinds of crap piled onto their bow. I do just fine with my plain old recurves. The more plain the better it looks. Besides, compound bows are like cheating :-p
You shoot barebow or trad?
Truth be told, I dislike that pic as well, s'just that I can't find a pic of a decent recurved compound with a Beiter longrod & twins. I don't got no scanner, otherwise I'd've posted a pic of myself shooting my ancient Hoyt Vortec.
Jonluw: The real Scandinavian mythology doesn't have a lot in common with the canon of the Marvel universe. They share names and all, but that's about it.
And "it's magic" doesn't exactly hold up when it's ignoring such basic physics.
The magic part was supposed to be more like a joke. I should have clarified that.
Maybe inside the hammer there's a gyroscope and you have to push a button on the handle to slow it down. Of course, in his rage Hulk isn't looking for buttons on handles. (this also is not meant to be take very seriously)
Jonluw: If the Hulk grabbing it makes it weigh tons, that should still make it rush through the floor of the ship.
It only weighs that much for the person who tries to pick it up.
That statement doesn't make sense. Does it make the person trying to lift it weak? Then why does the hulk sink into the floor? Is it locked in a completely stationary position in space? If so, relative to what? If it's on earth, it's both moving and accelerating.
The answer here is magic, that should be all you need to know in a fiction world but to answer questions more directly the hammer doesn't make a person weak it's just unmovable unless it deems you worthy, the Hulk sink because he was levered against the hammer, and it's not locked in space the hammer has to different weights at all time.
As for the topic it self the bow looks stupid, he already had a completely useless laser sight on his bow as is.
Xangba: Also that looks pretty ridiculous. I don't understand people who want all kinds of crap piled onto their bow. I do just fine with my plain old recurves. The more plain the better it looks. Besides, compound bows are like cheating :-p
You shoot barebow or trad?
Truth be told, I dislike that pic as well, s'just that I can't find a pic of a decent recurved compound with a Beiter longrod & twins. I don't got no scanner, otherwise I'd've posted a pic of myself shooting my ancient Hoyt Vortec.
Barebow all the way. I like pushing myself, and I got tired of using sights years ago.
Xangba: Barebow all the way. I like pushing myself, and I got tired of using sights years ago.
Props to you. I tried barebow a few times and decided I didn't have the balls to do it fulltime. Stuck with 'normal' recurve until I was seventeen before moving onto compound because I wasn't... progressing, shall we say. Still got top five finishes at most of the county level competitions, but wasn't getting anything out of it. Also, when things break on a recurve, everything flies backward, whereas when things break on a compound, everything flies forward! (only half joking) -_- And I used the back-tension release aid, which is the scariest piece of metal in the world to long-time compound archers first time users, but I got used to it pretty quick, even though the release frightened the living daylights out of me for the first ten dozen arrows... or thereabouts.
SckizoBoy: Do you think he would've been cooler if he'd been packing one of these:
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I don't know man, I'm not really a bow guy. I'm sure that's a nice bow, but I'm pretty sure Hawkeye was packing some sort of super secret high tech superbow invented by a super genius or something.
It only weighs that much for the person who tries to pick it up.
That statement doesn't make sense. Does it make the person trying to lift it weak? Then why does the hulk sink into the floor? Is it locked in a completely stationary position in space? If so, relative to what? If it's on earth, it's both moving and accelerating.
The answer here is magic, that should be all you need to know in a fiction world but to answer questions more directly the hammer doesn't make a person weak it's just unmovable unless it deems you worthy, the Hulk sink because he was levered against the hammer, and it's not locked in space the hammer has to different weights at all time.
But 'unmovable' doesn't make sense as a word. Magic is hard to accept as an explanation when it just shits over the basic laws of physics.
Jonluw: So you're saying that the hammer is locked in a completely stationary state of the speed and acceleration it had at the time when he let go of it?
No, he's a (demi-)god and it's magic. I don't know, I never read a comic and I'm not specialized in Scandinavian mythology.
The real Scandinavian mythology doesn't have a lot in common with the canon of the Marvel universe. They share names and all, but that's about it.
And "it's magic" doesn't exactly hold up when it's ignoring such basic physics.
Come on dude,
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Jonluw: I think it was pretty obvious already that The avengers don't care about physics. I mean: Thor drops his hammer on the floor. The Hulk tries to pick it up. The result is that the Hulk's feet start sinking into the floor.
Technically, only someone worthy of the hammer can pick it up. Only Thor is worthy of it so only he can pick it up.
Therefore, when Hulk tried to pick it up, it was impossible to lift. Nothing to do with actual weight. Otherwise if would have
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That said, the hammer IS pretty heavy. It was forged out of a dying star, If I remember right, which makes is SUPER dense.
Jonluw: That statement doesn't make sense. Does it make the person trying to lift it weak? Then why does the hulk sink into the floor? Is it locked in a completely stationary position in space? If so, relative to what? If it's on earth, it's both moving and accelerating.
The answer here is magic, that should be all you need to know in a fiction world but to answer questions more directly the hammer doesn't make a person weak it's just unmovable unless it deems you worthy, the Hulk sink because he was levered against the hammer, and it's not locked in space the hammer has to different weights at all time.
But 'unmovable' doesn't make sense as a word. Magic is hard to accept as an explanation when it just shits over the basic laws of physics.
That's the whole point of magic, ignoring the laws of the universe, do you have this much trouble believing waving hands around or a few words of gibberish make fire appear because I'm pretty sure that's against the laws of physics too.
The answer here is magic, that should be all you need to know in a fiction world but to answer questions more directly the hammer doesn't make a person weak it's just unmovable unless it deems you worthy, the Hulk sink because he was levered against the hammer, and it's not locked in space the hammer has to different weights at all time.
But 'unmovable' doesn't make sense as a word. Magic is hard to accept as an explanation when it just shits over the basic laws of physics.
That's the whole point of magic, ignoring the laws of the universe, do you have this much trouble believing waving hands around or a few words of gibberish make fire appear because I'm pretty sure that's against the laws of physics too.
I don't have problems with people conjuring up balls of fire, because there's an assumption that there's an underlying explanation. I expect some sort of pseudo-explanation of superhero phenomena.
When that explanation is "the hammer is impossible to move", I get annoyed, because the sentence doesn't make sense. The hammer exists in space, so it's moving. Period.
Do you think he would've been cooler if he'd been packing one of these:
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