No internet and porn for 90 days

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HarryScull:

axlryder:
Alright Escapists. In light of some recent brain studies about internet addiction and a couple of videos I've seen on the negative effects of porn, I've decided to try and cut myself off from these two "vices". Personally, I've noticed myself falling into extremely addictive patterns that are starting to negatively affect my quality of life.

??? i am unaware of these negative effects of which you speak, almost everything I've read/heard about masturbation either said it was a positive effect or that it makes you go to hell (catholic priest logic, sex with a 10 year old is fine but me masturbating is wrong) and from my own experience masturbation is a good thing (I'm pretty sure that 99% of men agree with me on this one)

same goes for the internet, true in excess it is bad but to cut down to 1 hour a day? surely that is overkill, the internet has many great benefits and while doing it in excess is harmful, the same goes for everything from smoking to exercise and I really dont understand your reasons for quitting.

I'm not challenging, flaming or hating you, im mostly just curious as to why the hell you would do this and it seams like a very bad idea to me

Masturbation is not the same thing as internet porn. They're two very different things.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201106/ominous-news-porn-users-internet-addiction-atrophies-brains

there's one article. Also deals a bit with gaming addiction. Neither are really "evil" imo, but should definitely not be abused. If unplugging from porn could improve my quality of life then why not give it a shot? Also, there is really NO good reason to smoke. It's expensive, has no benefits that couldn't be better derived from entirely free and healthy activity, is horribly addictive and can kill you. It also causes wrinkles, yellowing, chronic smelliness and various immediate health problems.

Also, neurological studies have shown excessive internet usage, even at only a few hours a day, can cause considerable damage. Again, I've experienced these effects first hand. Just google internet addiction.

I could do no porn for 90 days.

Internet? Doubt it.

>mfw everyone thinks that porn is required for life

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OT: You can do it, man! I could do it, but seeing how I don't do porn and don't spend more than a couple hours on the net itself each day, I don't think I need to... Still, good for you!

I honestly thought you were joining the military. You know, basic training and all that.

Dahdutcher:
No porn is hard

Not really, in fact its the just the opposite. Heh, get it?

Lame joke FTW!

Sooooo whos funding the time machine? I mean to effectively do this you have to go back to a time before the vices of Internet and Porn were firmly established. So whos paying for it?

OT: Meh I dunno if it'll have much of an effect this abstinance from I and P. I mean no Porn will hardly do anything and the worst case scenario for no Internet is that your brain develops the function to wirelessly connect to the internet... with your mind! Not sharing any secrets. No sirree.

Thanks for your kind words of support everyone. Starting tomorrow this little experiment will go into full swing. I'll try and post once a week updating my progress and any noted improvements.

Because being a responsible adult is so hard, right?

This is surely a symptom of the utterly inane world we--the first world inhabitants and middle to upper class individuals of Earth--live in, where extreme diets and crash courses of starvation have replaced simply going for a fucking jog and eating less than ten meals a day.

Can you give some details on the research you've done?

For periods of time I find I can create superior porn inside my head, usually involving me banging my identical twin cousins. They're two cute little petites with cute little butts, I remember when they wore these semi transparent dresses to my Sister's wedding, was eyeballing the image of their thongs the entire time. It was so hard to not get an erection, I could just lift up their skirts and expose their essentially bare bottoms to the cool summer air, give them a little smack and shag them on the spot.

Regnes:
For periods of time I find I can create superior porn inside my head, usually involving me banging my identical twin cousins. They're two cute little petites with cute little butts, I remember when they wore these semi transparent dresses to my Sister's wedding, was eyeballing the image of their thongs the entire time. It was so hard to not get an erection, I could just lift up their skirts and expose their essentially bare bottoms to the cool summer air, give them a little smack and shag them on the spot.

Well that's...interesting. I had a similar experience at my brother's wedding. One of the bridesmaids ended up grinding with me, despite me being about 16 at the time and her being 23. I took a rather cold shower shortly after. Also, one recent video I saw described the constant variety in internet porn as one of the big problem causing factors. So fantasizing about the same people over and over might actually curb the negative effects (if there are indeed any negative effects to vivid fantasies). I could also see why it would be superior, as you're the one controlling the scenario.

Grey Day for Elcia:
Because being a responsible adult is so hard, right?

This is surely a symptom of the utterly inane world we--the first world inhabitants and middle to upper class individuals of Earth--live in, where extreme diets and crash courses of starvation have replaced simply going for a fucking jog and eating less than ten meals a day.

Oh yes, because I'm going to tell a smoker that quitting cold turkey is certainly a product of his inability to be responsible and temper himself. *rolls eyes*

Different things work for different people. I've always been a cold turkey type. It worked for smoking and alcohol back in high school and I'm imagining that this won't be much different. After I'm done with my little "crash course", I might ease back into some things. I'm also most interested in seeing if there will be any kind of radical difference after the first month or so of almost no internet and no porn. I think the effect might be dampened slightly if I ween myself off of it (which I was never very good at). Of course, I don't know what will happen, that's why it's an experiment. Regardless, I think your perspective is a wee bit judgmental.

Kriptonite:
Can you give some details on the research you've done?

Just google internet addiction, there have been several big studies. There's an article I linked above about internet porn addiction. The potentially negative effects are honestly pretty under-researched. I can't really be assed to find the other sources.

axlryder:
Oh yes, because I'm going to tell a smoker that quitting cold turkey is certainly a product of his inability to be responsible and temper himself. *rolls eyes*

Yeah, pretty sure cigarettes will, you know, kill you. Please don't compare your inability to be responsible and act in moderation with an individual ceasing an act that will literally be the cause of their early death.

Grey Day for Elcia:

axlryder:
Oh yes, because I'm going to tell a smoker that quitting cold turkey is certainly a product of his inability to be responsible and temper himself. *rolls eyes*

Yeah, pretty sure cigarettes will, you know, kill you. Please don't compare your inability to be responsible and act in moderation with an individual ceasing an act that will literally be the cause of their early death.

Oh please, you're attempting to claim that quitting cold turkey is only justified if something might kill you? That's ridiculous. If something isn't a necessary part of your life (excessive browsing and porn aren't) and only seems to be causing negative effects (which the aforementioned things seem to be), then cutting it out entirely as a way to sooner alleviate said negative effects is completely valid. I'm also going to be coupling this with meditation and a healthier eating habits. I'm viewing it like a detox program. Yeah, doctors recommend those. Please don't act like your views of what denotes "responsibility" has any kind of validity beyond your own subjective perspective.

axlryder:

Grey Day for Elcia:

axlryder:
Oh yes, because I'm going to tell a smoker that quitting cold turkey is certainly a product of his inability to be responsible and temper himself. *rolls eyes*

Yeah, pretty sure cigarettes will, you know, kill you. Please don't compare your inability to be responsible and act in moderation with an individual ceasing an act that will literally be the cause of their early death.

Oh please, you're attempting to claim that quitting cold turkey is only justified if something might kill you? That's ridiculous. If something isn't a necessary part of your life (excessive browsing and porn aren't) and only seems to be causing negative effects (which the aforementioned things seem to be), then cutting it out entirely as a way to sooner alleviate said negative effects is completely valid. It's like a detox diet. Yeah, doctors recommend those.

Or just, oh I dunno, a little browsing a little porn viewing? Enjoy the things you like responsibly and know when enough is enough?

Sheesh. Overweight? Starve yourself and drink nothing but these shakes! Drink a little too much boos at your last party? Never drink another drop again! Keep putting things off and browse the internet while you know you need to be doing other things? No internet and no porn for ninety days!

I'll stick to taking responsibility for my choices and enjoying the things I do without excess.

how does porn damage your brain?

Vault101:
how does porn damage your brain?

Because God said so (not really) and God is real and always right (not really).

I don't understand the point. Are you thinking that 90 days away from the activity will force you to find a new way to spend your time that will replace porn and internet surfing, or is it that you think that 90 days off will clear your head so that you can resume your normal schedule after it's up?

I did that once but only for a month.

I can tell you one thing, the phrase "cumming buckets" will take on a much more literal meaning

Grey Day for Elcia:

axlryder:

Grey Day for Elcia:
Yeah, pretty sure cigarettes will, you know, kill you. Please don't compare your inability to be responsible and act in moderation with an individual ceasing an act that will literally be the cause of their early death.

Oh please, you're attempting to claim that quitting cold turkey is only justified if something might kill you? That's ridiculous. If something isn't a necessary part of your life (excessive browsing and porn aren't) and only seems to be causing negative effects (which the aforementioned things seem to be), then cutting it out entirely as a way to sooner alleviate said negative effects is completely valid. It's like a detox diet. Yeah, doctors recommend those.

Or just, oh I dunno, a little browsing a little porn viewing? Enjoy the things you like responsibly and know when enough is enough?

Sheesh. Overweight? Starve yourself and drink nothing but these shakes! Drink a little too much boos at your last party? Never drink another drop again! Keep putting things off and browse the internet while you know you need to be doing other things? No internet and no porn for ninety days!

I'll stick to taking responsibility for my choices and enjoying the things I do without excess.

You know what happens when you cut back on processed sugar? You get healthier. You know what happens when you cut processed sugar out of your diet entirely? You feel shitty for a couple days and then get much healthier. You know which one will help you to get healthier faster? If you guessed the latter, you'd be right. You see, the problem is that the starving yourself and drinking shakes isn't healthy because you're not giving your body what it NEEDS. Your body doesn't need aimless internet browsing and it sure has hell doesn't NEED porn, so cutting it out isn't even close to the same thing. Now, if someone has a SERIOUS alcohol addiction, you don't tell them to cut back, you put them in rehab. Guess what they don't do in rehab. Give them alcohol. At this point, I'm having trouble getting a handle on my browsing habits, so cutting it out is a much safer and more effective way to ensure progress, similar to rehab. Also, when did I say I'm never going to browse the internet or look at porn again? Three months is a far cry from "never drinking another drop".

Point is, you're using poor examples as a way to reinforce your own flimsily subjective views.

axlryder:

Grey Day for Elcia:

axlryder:

Oh please, you're attempting to claim that quitting cold turkey is only justified if something might kill you? That's ridiculous. If something isn't a necessary part of your life (excessive browsing and porn aren't) and only seems to be causing negative effects (which the aforementioned things seem to be), then cutting it out entirely as a way to sooner alleviate said negative effects is completely valid. It's like a detox diet. Yeah, doctors recommend those.

Or just, oh I dunno, a little browsing a little porn viewing? Enjoy the things you like responsibly and know when enough is enough?

Sheesh. Overweight? Starve yourself and drink nothing but these shakes! Drink a little too much boos at your last party? Never drink another drop again! Keep putting things off and browse the internet while you know you need to be doing other things? No internet and no porn for ninety days!

I'll stick to taking responsibility for my choices and enjoying the things I do without excess.

You know what happens when you cut back on processed sugar? You get healthier. You know what happens when you cut processed sugar out of your diet entirely? You get much healthier. You know which one will help you to get healthier faster? If you guessed the latter, you'd be right. You see, the problem is that the starving yourself and drinking shakes isn't healthy because you're not giving your body what it NEEDS. Your body doesn't need aimless internet browsing and it sure has hell doesn't NEED porn. Now, if someone has a SERIOUS alcohol addiction, you don't tell them to cut back, you put them in rehab. Guess what they don't do in rehab. Give them alcohol. Also, when did I I'm never going to browse the internet or look at porn again? Three months is a far cry from "never drinking another drop".

Point is, you're using poor examples as a way to reinforce your own flimsily subjective views.

Well, please, do continue acting as if browsing the internet and viewing porn is a crippling addiction. I won't stop you from being wrong. I particularly like how you mention your body doesn't need porn or the net. Because you should only do things your body needs, amirite? Now, go lay down, sleep as often as possible, only waking to eat and drink.

I'll be over there, enjoying life responsibly.

Good luck with that.

I got a week scheduled in July, where I'm going to make it my personal mission to avoid a computer. Its gonna BBQ, friends, family, and party all week for me. Maybe you should try doing that schedule some outdoor activities. Having structured and planned events would help you avoid your vice.

Grey Day for Elcia:

axlryder:

Grey Day for Elcia:
Or just, oh I dunno, a little browsing a little porn viewing? Enjoy the things you like responsibly and know when enough is enough?

Sheesh. Overweight? Starve yourself and drink nothing but these shakes! Drink a little too much boos at your last party? Never drink another drop again! Keep putting things off and browse the internet while you know you need to be doing other things? No internet and no porn for ninety days!

I'll stick to taking responsibility for my choices and enjoying the things I do without excess.

You know what happens when you cut back on processed sugar? You get healthier. You know what happens when you cut processed sugar out of your diet entirely? You get much healthier. You know which one will help you to get healthier faster? If you guessed the latter, you'd be right. You see, the problem is that the starving yourself and drinking shakes isn't healthy because you're not giving your body what it NEEDS. Your body doesn't need aimless internet browsing and it sure has hell doesn't NEED porn. Now, if someone has a SERIOUS alcohol addiction, you don't tell them to cut back, you put them in rehab. Guess what they don't do in rehab. Give them alcohol. Also, when did I I'm never going to browse the internet or look at porn again? Three months is a far cry from "never drinking another drop".

Point is, you're using poor examples as a way to reinforce your own flimsily subjective views.

Well, please, do continue acting as if browsing the internet and viewing porn is a crippling addiction. I won't stop you from being wrong. I particularly like how you mention your body doesn't need porn or the net. Because you should only do things your body needs, amirite? Now, go lay down, sleep as often as possible, only waking to eat and drink.

I'll be over there, enjoying life responsibly.

Oh yeah, because you know, people's whole lives haven't been crippled and ruined over porn and internet addictions. Oh wait, yeah they have. Not even mentioning that you're implying one's life needs to be totally crippled or ruined in order for them to be justified in cutting out the very unnecessary thing that's greatly decreasing their quality of life. I won't stop you from being ignorant. Oh, and you're funny, because I mention your body doesn't need porn the same way it does need nutrients as a retort to your awful "starve yourself and drink shakes" example, and you take it entirely out of context. It's funny, like you're using poor debating tactics as a way to prop up your incredibly weak argument.

You have fun over there trying to project your own life perspective as though it's somehow more objectively valid than it even comes close to being.

axlryder:

Grey Day for Elcia:

axlryder:

You know what happens when you cut back on processed sugar? You get healthier. You know what happens when you cut processed sugar out of your diet entirely? You get much healthier. You know which one will help you to get healthier faster? If you guessed the latter, you'd be right. You see, the problem is that the starving yourself and drinking shakes isn't healthy because you're not giving your body what it NEEDS. Your body doesn't need aimless internet browsing and it sure has hell doesn't NEED porn. Now, if someone has a SERIOUS alcohol addiction, you don't tell them to cut back, you put them in rehab. Guess what they don't do in rehab. Give them alcohol. Also, when did I I'm never going to browse the internet or look at porn again? Three months is a far cry from "never drinking another drop".

Point is, you're using poor examples as a way to reinforce your own flimsily subjective views.

Well, please, do continue acting as if browsing the internet and viewing porn is a crippling addiction. I won't stop you from being wrong. I particularly like how you mention your body doesn't need porn or the net. Because you should only do things your body needs, amirite? Now, go lay down, sleep as often as possible, only waking to eat and drink.

I'll be over there, enjoying life responsibly.

Oh yeah, because you know, people's whole lives haven't been crippled and ruined over porn and internet addictions. Oh wait, yeah they have. Oh, and you're funny, because I mention your body doesn't need porn the same way it does need nutrients as a retort to your awful "starve yourself and drink shakes" example, and you take it entirely out of context. It's funny, like you're using poor debating tactics as a way to prop up your incredibly weak argument.

You have fun over there trying to project your own life perspective as though it's somehow more objectively valid than it even comes close to being.

I got the impression you needed these ninety days because you cannot otherwise control yourself, so shouldn't you take the first step and log off now? You seem to be hanging around a lot longer than someone who has set such a rigorous plan set out for themselves would.

Grey Day for Elcia:

axlryder:

Grey Day for Elcia:
Well, please, do continue acting as if browsing the internet and viewing porn is a crippling addiction. I won't stop you from being wrong. I particularly like how you mention your body doesn't need porn or the net. Because you should only do things your body needs, amirite? Now, go lay down, sleep as often as possible, only waking to eat and drink.

I'll be over there, enjoying life responsibly.

Oh yeah, because you know, people's whole lives haven't been crippled and ruined over porn and internet addictions. Oh wait, yeah they have. Oh, and you're funny, because I mention your body doesn't need porn the same way it does need nutrients as a retort to your awful "starve yourself and drink shakes" example, and you take it entirely out of context. It's funny, like you're using poor debating tactics as a way to prop up your incredibly weak argument.

You have fun over there trying to project your own life perspective as though it's somehow more objectively valid than it even comes close to being.

I got the impression you needed these ninety days because you cannot otherwise control yourself, so shouldn't you take the first step and log off now? You seem to be hanging around a lot longer than someone who has set such a rigorous plan set out for themselves would.

I wondered when you were going to make that point as a way out. Regardless, the neighbors have chosen tonight as the night to have their ridiculously loud party, and I won't be able to sleep a wink until they cut it out. I also can't focus because of the music and my headphones are out of commission. Tomorrow will be the day this whole ball gets rolling (as I mentioned earlier). The porn thing has already started, though.

axlryder:
Regardless, the neighbors have chosen tonight as the night to have their ridiculously loud party, and I won't be able to sleep a wink until they cut it out.

With excuses like that, I've no doubt this effort of yours will be extremely successful.

*goes back to enjoying the internet*

I honestly find it a little pathetic that our society has become so reliant on the internet that not using it for a lengthy amount of time is seen as some sort of milestone achievement.

People did shit before the internet and were just fine.

Vault101:
how does porn damage your brain?

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201106/ominous-news-porn-users-internet-addiction-atrophies-brains
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/discoblog/2008/11/04/bad-news-for-cyberporn-internet-sex-linked-to-depression-anxiety/

porn in and of itself isn't necessarily bad, as I said earlier. It doesn't, however, offer the same positive effects as real intimacy and can result in a laundry list of issues when viewed too much or too frequently, it would seem. It's sort of like gambling or drugs without the immediate health risks. It's all rather under-researched, however. People are having trouble getting funding for brain-mapping studies and the like. It's one of the reasons I'm doing this. I want to see the difference for myself (if there is any difference to be seen). I've already exhibited many symptoms that seem to be associated with internet and porn addictions so I'm hoping that cutting them out will have a positive effect.

Grey Day for Elcia:

axlryder:
Regardless, the neighbors have chosen tonight as the night to have their ridiculously loud party, and I won't be able to sleep a wink until they cut it out.

With excuses like that, I've no doubt this effort of yours will be extremely successful.

*goes back to enjoying the internet*

Haha, it's funny, because your sarcastic skepticism is unhelpful without really being clever. All that internet use must have really helped shape you into a quality individual.

-Samurai-:
I honestly find it a little pathetic that our society has become so reliant on the internet that not using it for a lengthy amount of time is seen as some sort of milestone achievement.

People did shit before the internet and were just fine.

Yes, but then, that's the nature of addiction. That's kind of the whole point. If someone isn't a smoker, of course they're not going to think much of not smoking for the next 90 days.

I have a lot of imagination and plenty of offline games, I could go 90 days. Although I admit, not having the ability to keep up with the social sites I go to would probably bother me the entire time.

No Porn wouldnt bother me, dont look at it anyways...

but given im in the middle of no where with no one within walking distance to talk too... Internet is more needed :P

If I had too, I could pull the cord. But I would rather not

Grey Day for Elcia:

axlryder:
Regardless, the neighbors have chosen tonight as the night to have their ridiculously loud party, and I won't be able to sleep a wink until they cut it out.

With excuses like that, I've no doubt this effort of yours will be extremely successful.

*goes back to enjoying the internet*

My my, it seems someone's being a negative Nancy.

OT: I'll be interested in hearing about your results. Make sure to make a thread about it when your experiment is over.

axlryder:
You know what happens when you cut back on processed sugar? You get healthier. You know what happens when you cut processed sugar out of your diet entirely? You get much healthier. You know which one will help you to get healthier faster? If you guessed the latter, you'd be right. You see, the problem is that the starving yourself and drinking shakes isn't healthy because you're not giving your body what it NEEDS. Your body doesn't need aimless internet browsing and it sure has hell doesn't NEED porn. Now, if someone has a SERIOUS alcohol addiction, you don't tell them to cut back, you put them in rehab. Guess what they don't do in rehab. Give them alcohol. Also, when did I I'm never going to browse the internet or look at porn again? Three months is a far cry from "never drinking another drop".

Point is, you're using poor examples as a way to reinforce your own flimsily subjective views.

You know, I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this, it's very rare that giving up something entirely is preferable to simple moderation. Obviously if you're a recovering alcoholic you have to avoid it completely to avoid relapsing, but otherwise a little alcohol tends to be good for you, at least physically.
Ever heard of allergy injections? Vaccinations? They both work on the assumption that exposing yourself to small amounts of something generally considered bad for you can make your body stronger, not weaker.

As to your processed sugar argument; if by giving up processed sugar you mean switching from it to natural (impure) sugar, you are right. Natural sugar has more nutrients which are good for you. Processed sugar may not have these additional nutrients, being a much purer substance, but it's not bad for the body. The right amount of sugar, of any kind, is better than none at all.
I hate how people demonize certain substances simply because it's unhealthy with overconsumption. Guess what, EVERYTHING is unhealthy when overconsumed.

You madman!
Oh well, best of luck to you friend.

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