How the hell is that (not) acceptable?

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Basically it is 'cos it is, If the general societal view was different things would be different. What is normal is dictated by the greater public opinion.

Lugbzurg:
Why is it acceptable to wear a Sesame Street shirt, but, not a My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic shirt?

One is a reference to nostalgia of a show that the person watched in their childhood that they no longer watch. While the other is the watching of a children's show outside the target audience and is considered "immature" or "inappropriate". Also one is gender neutral and the other is targeted at females.

Capitano Segnaposto:

Spot1990:
Swearing. I mean you can say poop or pee pee but not shit or piss. How fucked are we as a society when a sound is taboo? No one cares about the meaning, everybody poops after all. But when people start shitting, that's offensive.

To add on to that, I keep getting told to not say "hell" as it is offensive and a swear word. What the fuck?

Yea, something like this blew my mind, way back when, when I was in highschool we were playing pictionary on kind of an off day class. I forgot what I picked to draw but I didn't know what it was and I said "what the heck?" and there was just this audible gasp from the room, and my teacher was like "you need to leave the room now, see me after class." After class he was like, I like you so I'm not going to give you detention, but I'm really disappointed in you, I didn't think you were that kind of person.

Moriim:

lacktheknack:
OT: Why did spanking become such a horrible form of "abuse"? Beating is horrible, obviously, but a light hit on the backside does not permanently scar even the most sensitive of children.

I've never heard of someone crying abuse over that. I know for sure that I responded much better to corporeal punishment than I ever did to timeouts or having my toys taken away. I think once your kid is old enough to care about video games, television, and/or going out grounding becomes a much more effective punishment in most cases.

OT: Why am I considered socially awkward for playing video games, even though I spend on average just as much time playing online games as any kid spends playing sports or socializing at school?

If you ignore the horrible bias in this article, here's one about spanking and where it's illegal:

http://www.ethicsoup.com/2009/10/spanking-is-illegal-sweden-celebrates-30year-national-ban-.html

and also this, about New Zealand:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32562673/ns/world_news-asia_pacific/t/new-zealand-leader-stands-spanking-ban/

Not that I don't agree with you, spanking worked quite well for me, and the only cases where it didn't is where I weighed my options and accepted the punishment as "worth it." Like for stealing cookies. Heh.

Why do people associate the color black with a dark brooding personality?

Spot1990:
Swearing. I mean you can say poop or pee pee but not shit or piss. How fucked are we as a society when a sound is taboo? No one cares about the meaning, everybody poops after all. But when people start shitting, that's offensive.

That one seems to be built into our capacity for language. Basically certain words exist as intensifiers or insults and can be placed into this category. These work because they evoke an emotional response and show that the speaker is in a heightened emotional state. When these become generic they lose this effect and simply become a shibboleth, which marks someone as a member of the group for using it correctly or an outsider for failing to use it correctly. As people want to interact with those in the same group misuse of these marks you as an outsider and thus it becomes taboo. As for racial slurs it should be fairly obvious why they tend to be taboo.

Esotera:
Jumping and climbing on things in public. If I hop over the wall to get to the cashpoint outside my house, it saves me 10 seconds, keeps me fit, and is really fun. But most people would give me a weird look for doing it.

Sometimes people damage the properly they jump off of or climb which is frowned upon. Also lots of folks don't like being reminded that a fence doesn't always work plus in some cases it can lead to trespassing.

AwkwardTurtle:
My question to the world is, since when was questioning or changing religion considered a mental disorder that can be diagnosed by a licensed professional? Why does this diagnosis exist?

Just in case, in terms of source this is straight from the DSM-IV the most current available book on the topic of madness/psychology. At least until the DSM-V comes out, whenever that is. I just can't be bothered with looking up the direct quote, but I'm sure it's in there.

actually, there isn't there used to be but it's covered in for that these kind of things are culturally bound and as such cannot present themselves as disorders

Imthatguy:
Why do people associate the color black with a dark brooding personality?

because all "evil deeds" take place in darkness and hidden places (or at night)
Such examples being the classical views of thievery murder/assasination robbery SM and cult followings.

Darkness is therefore related to dark things because black is the essence of darkness the two are connected .

Spot1990:
Swearing. I mean you can say poop or pee pee but not shit or piss. How fucked are we as a society when a sound is taboo? No one cares about the meaning, everybody poops after all. But when people start shitting, that's offensive.

This is one thing I've never understood. I've heard the logic behind it, but it's always fucking stupid. (Get it? Because I'm talking about how swearing is- ah, fuck it.)

Also, I don't understand North America's fear when it comes to sex, and even sexuality. It is so fucking weird to me.

Homosexuality. Ancient Greece is known as one of history's greatest empire and they practically relished homosexuality, but now a large portion of our society downright abhors it. Pisses me right off and makes me wish I lived in ancient Greece.

chadachada123:

zehydra:

Lugbzurg:
Why is it acceptable to wear a Sesame Street shirt, but, not a My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic shirt?

Because MLPFM is "targeted" at little girls. It's the same reason people would look at you funny if you played with barbie dolls.

Sesame Street is gender neutral with regards to its target audience.

MLPFiM has more violence than...I actually don't know of any boy-oriented shows for younger kids. Most stuff on Cartoon Network is pretty gender-neutral, as far as I know.

Point is, MLP is full of violence that a boy could enjoy, and keeps out the frilly foo-foo stuff. Its intended target audience is NOT what the show itself is geared towards (which is pretty gender-neutral, in my opinion).

Sure, but most people don't know that. When it comes to social acceptability, most of society does not know or care that this is the case.

Personally, I think social acceptability and go f*** itself.

KefkaCultist:
Homosexuality. Ancient Greece is known as one of history's greatest empire and they practically relished homosexuality, but now a large portion of our society downright abhors it. Pisses me right off and makes me wish I lived in ancient Greece.

And pederasty too! :D

madster11:

GenericAmerican:
How the hell can someone go and rape/muder/torture/otherwisedobadshit to another human, and get off with nothing more that a slap on the wrist.
But average joe shoots an attacking animal in defense of his 5 year old daughter, and faces 20 years in prison.

It's simple:
There's currently so many humans on the planet that if 99.99% of us were wiped out, we'd still have enough genetic diversity and overall population to bounce back with effectively no repercussions except maybe a loss of technology. Hell, there'd still be enough of us to form 2 large armies, have a war, and then continue on as a species.

The same cannot be said for most other things on this planet.

So the moral of the story is; if you're watching something you love being mauled to death in front of you, don't do anything. Because you can bounce back . . . then be sent to jail for child neglect.

Spot1990:
Swearing. I mean you can say poop or pee pee but not shit or piss. How fucked are we as a society when a sound is taboo? No one cares about the meaning, everybody poops after all. But when people start shitting, that's offensive.

In Melbourne, Australia you can cop a fine for swearing in public. It's pretty fucked up.

trty00:
Breasts...
Why can I flash my man-tits at the beach, but a girl can't show hers?

I know guys with bigger tits than most chicks.

geK0:

- I never understood how a film (or other forms of media) can have violence and killing and only be PG13, but one woman's nipple will give it an R rating.

- I never understood how men's nipples are allowed to be exposed, but not women's.

It's mostly due to presentation, the female breasts have a natural innocent purpose and a sexual purpose. Typically movies don't show the breasts in a wholesome light, they're there for sex and nothing else.

A woman bathing is often not enough to land an 18A rating, just for example.

In Canada we also have a superior rating system, instead of PG-13 we have 14A, and sometimes a movie can get away with a lot while maintaining that rating. Road Trip had a lot of nudity, even full frontal nudity and an extreme closeup of some breasts, it was rated 14A.

Trippy Turtle:
In Australia at least I'm pretty sure its legal within two years of age difference. So a 17 and a 19 year old are fine.

Actually the age of consent in most of mainland Australia is 16, so a 16 and a 50 year old having sex is technically legal, but generally frowned upon. In South Australia and Tasmania it's 17, so again a 17 and 50 year old is fine. In queensland you can have vaginal sex or oral at 16 but the age of consent for buttsex is 18.

You're still mostly right though. In the ACT and Vic being within 2 years of the minor's age is a defence, provided the youngest party is above 10 years. In Tas there is a 3 year margin if they are above 12 and a 5 year margin if they are above 15. In WA there is a 3 year margin. In the other states the only defence is believing they were of consenting age.

AND NOW YOU KNOW.

KefkaCultist:
Homosexuality. Ancient Greece is known as one of history's greatest empire and they practically relished homosexuality, but now a large portion of our society downright abhors it. Pisses me right off and makes me wish I lived in ancient Greece.

I agree with the sentiment but the Ancient Greeks also kept slaves so that's not the best argument.

ThatLankyBastard:

AND ANOTHER THING! WHY THE FUCK DOES "'I' before 'E', except after 'C'" NOT APPLY TO THE WORD "Weird"???

I would think it would be obvious. The word "Weird" wanted to be weird.

OT: Well, it's kinda late and all the obvious ones have been taken already, so I'm not really sure if I have anything to add.

chadachada123:

GiglameshSoulEater:

geK0:
- I never understood how somebody who's 17 and 364 days is off limits, but the day they turn 18, they are fair game . It seems odd that somebody who is 16 or 17 is deemed "unable to give consent"
varies by region but the point still stands). Although, once somebody is into their mid-20s they shouldn't be dating that young anyway, I'm talking more about people ages 18-22 who get pinned for statutory rape.

Because there has to be a cut-off point, and on that age it is recognised they should have undergone enough development to be able to give informed consent.

I think there would be far, far less trouble if it was determined on a case-by-case basis, since there are plenty of 16 year olds that are far more mature and able to give consent than many 18 or 19 year olds.

Additionally, not just are some kids more emotionally mature (as in, they don't ACT immature), brain development is significantly different for everyone, to the point where comparing two 16-year olds and putting them on the same legal level is just...illogical and counterproductive.

Edit: But that's just me. I think that arbitrary cut-off points are horribly, horribly wrong for something like sexuality, and really only make sense for stuff like politics, where maturity is not that large of a factor compared to just basic intelligence.

Sounds to me like you just wanna boink someone under the age of 18, otherwise why would this be an issue?

Trippy Turtle:
In Australia at least I'm pretty sure its legal within two years of age difference. So a 17 and a 19 year old are fine.

Depends where you are- in most states it's a flat 16, a couple it's 17 and some have additional restrictions on certain activities.

OT:

Why is it expected that once I reach a certain age I have to stop enjoying the things I enjoy and start being 'serious'?

Why is it acceptable for people to use arcane ancient beliefs to justify hate?

Why is it ok for oil companies to buy up renewable energy patents and sit on them?

Spot1990:
Swearing. I mean you can say poop or pee pee but not shit or piss. How fucked are we as a society when a sound is taboo? No one cares about the meaning, everybody poops after all. But when people start shitting, that's offensive.

I believe the concept of certain words being vulgar in the English language occurred after the Norman invasion in the 11th century.

Before the Normans invaded, words like "shit", "fuck" and "cunt" were just the everyday, Germanic Anglo-Saxon words for those things, but when the Normans became the ruling class, proper people were expect to speak Norman French and the Germanic, Anglo-Saxon words were considered vulgar as it was the language of the commoners.

So in the case of the word shit, the vulgar commoners would refer to it as something like "scite" or "scitte", whereas the properly educated Norman speaking people would say something like "merde" (obviously not the Modern French word , but it's Norse-French equivalent).

I suppose as the language evolved into modern English, the old Germanic words stayed around, but retained their vulgar stigma and relegated into properly offensive swear words.

That's my understanding of it from what I was taught by my English teacher, many moons ago. I'm not sure how accurate it is, but it makes sense.

I suspect that quite a few things that are considered taboo stem from class prejudices, with the actions of the poorer classes being shunned and made taboo by the ruling classes...

...apart from Cannibalism, which is just wrong and fucks up your body and mind due to Prion diseases and was recognised as being wrong, thus declared taboo by many cultures long before they understood the science behind it. That Cannibalism turns people into raving mad, murderous, evil Demons or monsters is a pretty accurate, non-scientific interpretation of the effects of Prion diseases on the Human brain.

zehydra:

KefkaCultist:
Homosexuality. Ancient Greece is known as one of history's greatest empire and they practically relished homosexuality, but now a large portion of our society downright abhors it. Pisses me right off and makes me wish I lived in ancient Greece.

And pederasty too! :D

(I had to look up 'Pederasty' on wikipedia...) Okay, so ancient Greece wasn't perfect, but they had their views on sexual orientations right at least. XD

Here in the UK it's legal to have sex at 16 but it's not legal to own porn till you're 18.
So I can't watch but I can participate? How does that work?

Yeah! Why the hell is swearing on TV not acceptable?
Especially in the 2010's

Frankly it's offensive.
The words fuck, shit, goddamn, and asshole are about the only words still banned on TV but they're all unique in the intensity of emotional weight they evoke

Also boobs. and nudity in general.

It can be done in non-gratuitous ways, and is a lot less offensive to watch than the "Convenient camera positioning" they usually force down our eye holes.

For EG. I was playing Mass Effect 3 the other day and had a disturbing thought: Why is Traynor showering in her underwear?

I mean seriously, is the naked body that much worse than all the gore, violence and exploding heads that game already has on display?

Censorship needs to go.
Disband the FCC

Syzygy23:

Sounds to me like you just wanna boink someone under the age of 18, otherwise why would this be an issue?

I live in Michigan. I already can.

I just think that the law as-is is extremely unfair and has fucked over the lives of far too many people for something in which all parties consented. This includes me in my senior year, where I was 17 and she was 15. One false step and I could have had my entire life thrown away because of a retarded law.

It's an "issue" because we already have millions of citizens imprisoned for 'crimes' that do not have any victims and should not be crimes to begin with. I consider it basic liberty to not imprison people for consensual acts, especially when it's 14-19 years olds having sex with each other (which they absolutely will do, no matter what, with imprisonment accomplishing absolutely nothing).

Sorta like how if I'm chilling and meditating, or going through a flowing technique people don't see it as a bad thing, but when I go through stronger more punishing looking combos, or practice sparring with someone in an obviously practise only way, especially if there's any form of practise weaponry involved, I practise escrima with my master outdoors, mainly for the extra space, but also for terrain navigation and obstacle avoidance training, as it's a really bad thing to stumble over something in a fight. I also practise standing and sitting meditation techniques, also starting to learn the martial side of Tai chi, and most people watching that practise don't seem to think anything of it, cuz it has a smoother flow, and is empty hand for the most part.

But yeah, rocking a shaved head and a goatee is also somewhat of a less acceptable style here too, and I don't care who thinks I look like a biker or a thug, I like the ease of maintenance, and I know I'm more attractive like this than any other style I've rocked, so I'm gonna keep it.

Smeatza:
Here in the UK it's legal to have sex at 16 but it's not legal to own porn till you're 18.
So I can't watch but I can participate? How does that work?

Even better, in the US, in many states you can have sex at 16, but if you take any nude pictures of yourself and send them to your boy/girlfriend, you can be SENT TO PRISON on FELONY child porn charges...for porn that you made of yourself.

Yeah. The laws regarding porn are fucked in our countries.

ThatLankyBastard:

AND ANOTHER THING! WHY THE FUCK DOES "'I' before 'E', except after 'C'" NOT APPLY TO THE WORD "Weird"???

It's just weird, I guess.

Badum-ching.

Starik20X6:

Why is it expected that once I reach a certain age I have to stop enjoying the things I enjoy and start being 'serious'?

Oh damn, I'm gonna hate when I turn that age and I suddenly have to stop playing games/watching kids shows like MLP and Adventure Time/building awesome shit with lego. If it makes a person happy, and it's not harming anyone then I reckon it's perfectly fine for the person to do it. But social taboos have made it so that that rule can't be enforced, because playing games is "immature" and you should go do taxes and file papers for the rest of your miserable, serious life.

OT: Why is it that getting absolutely pissed (drunk) is perfectly acceptable, and even encouraged by a lot of families. But sitting in a room, playing a social video game is "Destructive" and "Makes you violent".

chadachada123:

Smeatza:
Here in the UK it's legal to have sex at 16 but it's not legal to own porn till you're 18.
So I can't watch but I can participate? How does that work?

Even better, in the US, in many states you can have sex at 16, but if you take any nude pictures of yourself and send them to your boy/girlfriend, you can be SENT TO PRISON on FELONY child porn charges...for porn that you made of yourself.

Yeah. The laws regarding porn are fucked in our countries.

Even better, in a lot of countries you can join the army at 16, but you can't play a COD game until you're 18. So you can kill real people, and run the risk of being killed before you can shoot virtual people on a screen.

I remember when I was 6, and I got called 'gay' at school. (In Finnish, and in that language it means homosexual, it's not used to mean generally lame)

I told my mom this, and she asked me if I knew what it meant.
I didn't, but I figured it must have been bad thing, since why else would it be used as an insult?
She told me it meant a man who liked other men or a woman who liked other women the way couples do.
And I was just confused why that would be considered a bad thing by anyone, and realised the people using that word didn't even know what it meant.

So yeah, there's no reason why homosexuality should be socially unacceptable.

ThatLankyBastard:
AND ANOTHER THING! WHY THE FUCK DOES "'I' before 'E', except after 'C'" NOT APPLY TO THE WORD "Weird"???

Woah, I looked up it not being taught in schools anymore, and I found a goddamn poem about it. SWEET. I laughed out loud, so I might as well share:

I before E except after C
or when sounded as A, as in neighbor or weigh.
Albeit, there's weird words like leisure and neither
(foreign and counterfeit don't make sense either).
Seismic and seisure and protein and height...
the rule is quite useless but possibly might
just yet be worth saving with some alteration:
(oops: heir, their, and sovereign... decaffeination)
so yes it's quite simple, as I'm sure you can see:
I before E when it wants to be!

I'm sure I made a lot of English majors very angry by claiming to have "discovered" that poem on "the internet".

Nudity is......not necessarily a good thing. I can see where you're all coming from though. Young male....likes tits....wish more women walked around naked for you to oogle a- I mean express themselves in a sexual fashion for you to admire-I mean....stuff. But think about it. Imagine your daily routine, all the ugly, old, fat, unattractive slobs you see everyday. The people you work with. Go to school with. Family. Friends. ALL NAKED. Your eyes would bleed.

Some things are best left not seen. If you want to see someone naked, watch or porn or ask them to have sex. To me this is a taboo that isn't harmful, because the means to get around it are easier and more beneficial. I sense a lot of sexual tension in some people here. Not everyone is good enough to be naked. That's just life.

Making out in public, I mean REALLY making out we're talking Gene Simmons tounge action here. Or even just regular frenching, to me it always appears to make people uncomfortable for reasons I don't quite get I mean what real concern is it of anyone elses other than envy if you ask me.

My gf and I were kicked out of a bus transit station just for this, well that could be considered the cause of the interation between ourselves and transit security and I know that we were basically kicked out because cause I called the fat prick an envious nazi essentially, I suppose I didn't have as good a control on my temper when I 19, but still just the fact that the guy came up to us and told us "either don't do that, or take it somewhere else" all matter of factly. There is a polilte and adult way to deal with any situation.

Genocide. I mean, come on! That's normal, right? It used to be I could say "Hey, I'm gonna go do some genocide" and nobody would care. I want to do some genocide again, like the old days.

For everyone saying why they don't understand why people don't like swearing, why do you swear then?

I_am_a_Spoon:
Different people consider different things taboo. That's normal.

But society is strange sometimes. You walk down the street and notice random things.

For example, how the hell did public nudity become so taboo? Why did more "civilised" cultures come to disapprove of it? I can understand requiring clothes for specific things, but why the complete shift? Why are clothes now a requirement, rather than an option?

Any other examples?

I'm a fan of nietzsche and I think it's appropriate here. He says morality is subjective. It's just an excuse for power. 'Strong individuals' (rather: organisations/religions/governments) use morality to submit the weak (the divided). So according to him: morality doesn't exist. It's an invention of the people in power.

So basically, why does something become taboo. Because throughout the years small groups of people condemn it. However: that does not make our current morality bad. Well not according to me any ways. It does according to Nietzsche but he died of syphilis because he was having to much unprotected sex with prostitutes so... yea...

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